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jim1
10-09-2009, 10:33 AM
My opinion for what it's worth is that WR is beyond a normal need, it's a crying need. We are soaked in mediocrity at the position. If Ginn can settle in at #3 option and kickoff returner for the next couple of years, great. But we need "the man." Braylon Edwards- might have been worth a shot, maybe not. But the dude was a stud at 24, just what the doctor ordered for our team IF he could bring it again. Big if, but I commend the Jets balls and acumen in getting a stud QB in Sanchez and #1 WR for so little in return, and he's only 26.

Anyway, the purpose of this thread is WR's for next year, draft and FA. How do you rank them, who do you prefer?

I'd have to say Dez Bryant #1, just about the entire package- size, go-to guy, pretty good quicks, strength, hands. Reminds me of Boldin with more speed and explosion. But at the same time I wouldn't by any means say top shelf speed and quicks. I don't know what his 40 time is, but to me Aurelius Benn looks faster.

Aurelius Benn- maybe the most intriguing to me. I see everything there, even moreso than Bryant. Size, pure speed, quicks, strength, looks like he has soft hands, too. He still seems like more of a gamble than Bryant, less of a sure thing. But talentwise, this dude has it in spades. I'm basically focusing on speed though, and maybe that's a disservice to Bryant. It's not like Bryant is slow by any means, I just see more pure speed in Benn.

Brandon Lafell- very good, but does he have the explosion to warrant a #1 pick? Love his size, hands look good, but Ireally don't know, I haven't been blown away by what I've seen. Looking forward to seeing LSU tomorrow against UF, should be a good test for Lafell.

Decker- like him, but not sure that he's what we need in terms of a #1- we already have a Hartline type, but Decker is good, no doubt.

Damian Williams- shifty, excellent route runner, but is he the #1 that we need? Not so sure, need to see more of him, too.

My best guess is that I would pull the trigger on Bryant or Benn with our first, I'm not so sure about Lafell, need to see more. Be it draft or FA, I do think that it's time for us to step up to the plate and fill a drastic need. Just my opinion, Curious as to yours- not sure what's out there in FA, bring it on.

Anyone have feedback on Mike Williams? Haven't seen Syracuse play this year.

skipp2myloo13
10-09-2009, 02:33 PM
I like Golden Tate round 2-3. Reminds me of Steve Smith of the Panthers.

jim1
10-09-2009, 04:11 PM
I like Golden Tate round 2-3. Reminds me of Steve Smith of the Panthers.

Tate is interesting, good athlete. But in terms of a 1st rd pick for the Fins my immediate reaction is:

Bryant- yes
Benn- yes
Lafell- not sure, but he fits my profile
Gilyard- no
Decker- no, but damn good player

Danario Alexander- I saw very little of the Missou game last night, would have liked to have seen him play

Jacoby Ford- smaller guy, but a deep threat. Probably a 3rd rd guy as things stand now. Dude is fast as hell, want to see more though.

X-Pacolypse
10-09-2009, 08:21 PM
Tate is interesting, good athlete. But in terms of a 1st rd pick for the Fins my immediate reaction is:

Bryant- yes
Benn- yes
Lafell- not sure, but he fits my profile
Gilyard- no
Decker- no, but damn good player

Danario Alexander- I saw very little of the Missou game last night, would have liked to have seen him play

Jacoby Ford- smaller guy, but a deep threat. Probably a 3rd rd guy as things stand now. Dude is fast as hell, want to see more though.

Why not?

BobDole
10-09-2009, 10:43 PM
benn is my favorite with bryant being a close second. i like tate a lot but he doesn't have the size. lafell is good but i like tolliver more for some reason - too bad he's a youngin - and too bad they don't have a QB worth a damn. decker and williams are pretty good but not sure about their #1 potential in the NFL.

benn and bryant are the only ones i would take in the 1st round.

Elliott 1
10-10-2009, 02:56 AM
It won't matter. The Dolphins either stick with the guys they have or go after Vincent Jackson if he enters FA.

jim1
10-10-2009, 08:15 AM
Why not?

Gilyard is good, but I'm looking for a WR with wheels, size and strength- a go to type of guy. I might be selling Gilyard short- I want to see more of him, not easy catching Cincinnatti football games on tv.

I'm still focused on Bryant, Lafell and Benn because they fit the profile, especially Bryant and Benn. Very much looking forward to seeing Lafell tonight, I want to see some explosion.

Bryant looks like a beast, and Benn really has my attention. The greedy part of me says Benn because of the speed advantage, but Bryant is that alpha male, dominant #1. Maybe it's like choosing between Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald, or better yet Johnson and Boldin. With apologies to Fitzgerald, I would take Johnson over any WR in the NFL. Consumate size/strength deep threat.

Will Bryant come out after this year and the suspension? I don't know. But I imagine that he'll be gone before we pick. Benn- in the absence of us getting a top flight Wr in FA I would say that there's a good chance that we would take him. Lafell- maybe, I'm just not sure- again, looking forward to the game tonight and seeing some explosion out of him.

Everyone has their opinions, but I see WR as the single most glaring need on this team. Maybe we take a Jerry Hughes, Brandon Spikes or Terrence Cody, I don't know. But regardless of the Parcells WR draft record in the 1st round/lack of picking there, I could easily see us going WR #1 in the 1st. And the most logical pick so far at the position seems to be Benn, as in all likelihood Bryant won't be there. And all of this is aauming of course that these two come out this year.

NAPPS
10-10-2009, 10:47 AM
We should wait for A.J. Green.

BobDole
10-10-2009, 10:56 AM
We should wait for A.J. Green.

i'd say wait too - i'd rather get a LB or NT in the 1st round this year. i don't like the crop this year all that much after the top 2 guys. possibly get a FA for a #1 receiver. if it's still a need - next year we could pick b/n a.j. and julio - who i like more than benn and bryant.

jim1
10-10-2009, 10:56 AM
We should wait for A.J. Green.

Take a look at this catch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKIknHpuytU

NAPPS
10-10-2009, 10:58 AM
absolute sickness

jim1
10-10-2009, 10:59 AM
i'd say wait too - i'd rather get a LB or NT in the 1st round this year. i don't like the crop this year all that much after the top 2 guys. possibly get a FA for a #1 receiver. if it's still a need - next year we could pick b/n a.j. and julio - who i like more than benn and bryant.

I'm thinking the same thing, dicey after Bryant and Benn. Need to see more of Lafell, but as things stand now I'd be happy with either next year in 1st. As always, it's a question of what do you pass up by taking one of them. Nonetheless, I'd probably pull the trigger in the 1st on Bryant or Benn if available.

2413fanphins
10-10-2009, 12:17 PM
being from iowa, I get to see a lot of benn.

would love it if we were to land him.

too bad we would have to tank this year, because at this point I see benn maybe being in the top ten selections. but anything can happen. I really don't want to see us picking way up in the draft again for awhile.

ZachThomas76
10-10-2009, 02:12 PM
being from iowa, I get to see a lot of benn.

would love it if we were to land him.

too bad we would have to tank this year, because at this point I see benn maybe being in the top ten selections. but anything can happen. I really don't want to see us picking way up in the draft again for awhile.
well, i think you may be disappointed then.

jim1
10-11-2009, 10:16 AM
Even though Lafell didn't have a big game last night i'm more inclined to say yes to him as a potential #1 pick for us, still not sure though. It's not exactly a scientific approach, more of a feel in terms of how he moves and what I could see out of his route running. What I'm looking for ideally is a go to guy with size- still have to rate them Bryant/Benn/Lafell, with Benn being the most intriguing. he hurt his shoulder, not sure how bad.

EFWilson
10-12-2009, 12:02 AM
Knowing the management of the Dolphins I would expect them to look for another defensive player in the first. That is depending on where they end up drafting from. Also I wouldnt be surprised if they pulled a " who's that ?" pick just to show everyone how smart they are. Also interested in seeing how they handle resigning Ronnie Brown.

jim1
10-24-2009, 09:35 AM
being from iowa, I get to see a lot of benn.

would love it if we were to land him.

too bad we would have to tank this year, because at this point I see benn maybe being in the top ten selections. but anything can happen. I really don't want to see us picking way up in the draft again for awhile.

My focus, for better or worse, is going to be Benn v Bryant with some consideration after that for Lafell. Not to say that we couldn't use some defensive help in rd 1, but this is where I'm choosing to concentrate.

Thx for the feedback on Benn. At this point I'm trying to find reasons NOT to like Benn, because everything seems there. Now I'm looking for feedback on smarts, consistency, desire, all that good stuff. Bryant has speed and quicks, better than Boldin from what I've seen, for sure. I'm using Boldin as a benchmark because of the physical similarities, mental makeup/ ie give me the damn ball mentality and outstanding production.

Three factors come to mind when comparing/contrasting Benn and Bryant- intangibles, production, and speed. I have to give Bryant the edge on intangibles and production, but Benn's 4.4 to 4.55 speed advantage over Bryant is significant. My fear is that I'm being lulled into the "speed trap." Given the two being hypothetically available for us in rd. 1 I'd have a hard time passing up either one. I think that I would take Bryant over Benn, but I would feel uneasy about it.

Last year my gut choice at Center was Alex Mack over Max Unger. There were some good arguments for Unger, but in hindsite it was all a bit too cute. "Better second level blocker"- sounds great, but that's not where the money is made. All those who were unhappy with picking up Jake Grove over Satele can take note of that, too. History shows where Mack and Unger were respectively drafted- 'nuff said. That being said, you've got to love Unger's versatility.

Benn looks fantastic, and Bryant is a physical, dominant monster with out of this world production. I really like Benn but I have to go with Bryant as things stand. Prove me wrong. Seriously, I'm looking for feedback to give me reason to change my mind.

Lafell- still on my 1st rd radar. Braylon Edwards- regardless of what happens, I'll say this: I saw the guy in the Monday night game and thought that he looked EXACTLY like what we need at WR. The guy's size is nearly ideal, he's very fast, great leaper, and he was a productive go-to guy. This doesn't meant that he'll keep up the pace or not get another case of the dropsies, but based in that game- wow. Bring it on, looking for feedback, especially Benn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99YXtr4teGs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ5uPJGwscU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sXYiZjT038

jim1
10-24-2009, 01:57 PM
Illinios on TV, waiting to see something out of Benn. Very uninspired offense with Juice Williams at QB and Ron Zook running the show, that's a very basic looking, plodding offense. Maybe Benn is handcuffed by those factors, I don't know.

Interesting story relayed on ESPN- Illinois football players banned from going to a certain bar, Williams and Benn staked it out to make sure they didn't go. Juice and Benn saw some go in and turned them in- high character move or ratting out teammates with a divcive effect? We'll see.

Benn's stats are crap so far this year, far cry from the 1500 yds and 19 TDs last year from Bryant.

#1dolphinsfan
10-24-2009, 02:10 PM
I would love to have Dez Bryant but i think we need to go LB in the first round because just suck and then go with a guy like Golden tate in the second round

dr.jake
10-27-2009, 02:52 PM
biletnikoff final 10:


Marty Gilyard,Cincinnatti
Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green
Dezmon Briscoe, Kansas
Vincent Brown, San Diego State
Eric Decker, Minnesota
AJ Green, Georgia
Jordan Shipley, Texas
Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech
Golden Tate, Notre Dame
Mike Williams,Syracuse

RobertHorry
10-27-2009, 03:34 PM
I want Damian Williams out of USC.

zach8111
10-27-2009, 04:16 PM
from what i see there stock is both down (Dez and Benn) because Illinois cant pass the ball and Benn isnt getting anything and for DEz being suspended the whole season isnt helping his stock.

For me i would like to land Dez Bryant. I think he is the best WR in the draft and more of a sure thing and would compliment our team perfectly. We need a guy with great hands and size... If we were to go WR with our first pick.... I'd love Eric Berry over anyone thoug, but i dont think we will have a good enough pick for him

ChadHenne
10-27-2009, 04:26 PM
Here is my wish list honestly.

1. Dez Bryant
2. Golden Tate
3. Mike Williams
4. Damien Williams
5. Brandon Lafell
6. Eric Decker (out for season, so could be a 4th or 5th rounder).

Overall, Dez Bryant with our first round pick is ideal. He has great hands, and with the suspension for the season, his draft has knocked him out of the top 10 and probably to our range, so it is actually probably that we can draft him.

Golden Tate is a very good player, and he has excelled in college, just gotta see how his game can translate to the NFL game. I think he'll be fine, but if you are looking for a breakout star WR, you're getting a possession, 600-700 receiving yards a season guy in Tate most likely, not an NFL star.

The only other WR's that REALLY intrigue me are Mike Williams/Damien Williams and Eric Decker. Williams seems to have a lot of the same qualities as Dwyane Jarrett, so not good, but he is still a good college WR, and he'll be taken by somebody late in the first round. Mike Williams is all speed, so probably not somebody ya'll would like, but with the offense we run him or Decker would be great players to do some trick plays and reverses with. However, their game still fits more in the slot than anything.

So if we are looking for a legit #1 WR, the safest bet this draft is Dez Bryant. He's physical at the LOS, he has very good size, great hands, and he probably is going to run a 4.5 40 yard dash. I think the player he most resembles is Marques Colston, but I haven't really given it enough though yet to make a 100% comparison, so don't read too much into that. I'll have a better one closer to the draft.

radicalracer34
10-28-2009, 12:46 AM
Aj Green and Julio Jones will both be great recievers in the nfl both are sophmores though

radicalracer34
10-28-2009, 12:48 AM
What about Taylor Mays? our safties have sucked lately

X-Pacolypse
10-28-2009, 03:03 PM
biletnikoff final 10:


Marty Gilyard,Cincinnatti
Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green
Dezmon Briscoe, Kansas
Vincent Brown, San Diego State
Eric Decker, Minnesota
AJ Green, Georgia
Jordan Shipley, Texas
Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech
Golden Tate, Notre Dame
Mike Williams,Syracuse

Very underrated. Playing in a triple option offense has limited him. This kid does have good tools to work with. I like his upside when you put him back in with a traditional offense.

DearbornDolfan
10-28-2009, 09:29 PM
Benn's production, or lack thereof, has soured me on him. Monsters like Bryant find a way to get their receptions, yards, and TDs. Benn has failed in this. Besides, he reminds me too much of Ginn, thin and all speed.

EDIT: If you want a speed guy who actually has production this year, look no further than Dezmon Briscoe. Four games with over a hundred yards and two games with 60 with four TDs. An ideal replacement for Ginn because he's damned near as fast and actually has the heart to go for the tough catch over the middle.

houtz
10-28-2009, 11:25 PM
What are the odds of Bryant/Benn being there when we pick?

TedSlimmJr
10-29-2009, 12:21 AM
Seriously....do you people even watch college football or just read mock drafts?

Benn has absolutely NOTHING in common with Ted Ginn....they couldn't be anymore polar opposites...

Benn played WR, RB, S, and LINEBACKER in high school......nevermind that he's 6-2, 215 pounds...

One of his main strengths is his strength....and overpowering defensive backs....he finishes runs like a runningback....

He's a hard worker in the weight room and built like a two-legged Quarter-Horse...

As for Golden Tate....this kid just might be the best WR in the country IMO...

He came to Notre Dame as a runningback....and you can tell....he plays like one with the football in his hands....

His route running has improved so much from his freshman year that he can gain awesome seperation on any route he runs....literally ANY route....and against some of the best athletes and defenses you can face in college football...

His size matters not IMO....he PLAYS big....bigger than his size....ala Steve Smith, Eddie Royal, etc...

When Michael Floyd went down and defenses started rolling their coverages towards Tate.....he took his game to an even HIGHER level....you can't stop him...

There are plenty of 6-4, 220 pounders running around out there that play like they're 175 pounds.....or get drafted to the NFL based on that size only to spend their Sundays wearing street clothes....surely Miami could use another one of those, right....:lol: