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Jaydog57
11-01-2009, 10:00 PM
1 Florida 8-0
2 Texas 8-0
3 Alabama 8-0
4 Iowa 9-0
5 Cincinnati 8-0
6 TCU 8-0
7 Boise State 8-0
8 Oregon 7-1
9 LSU 7-1
10 Georgia Tech 8-1
11 Penn State 8-1
12 USC 6-2
13 Pittsburgh 7-1
14 Utah 7-1
15 Houston 7-1
16 Ohio State 7-2
17 Miami (FL) 6-2 :woot:
18 Arizona 5-2
19 Oklahoma State 6-2
20 California 6-2
21 Wisconsin 6-2
22 Notre Dame 6-2
23 Virginia Tech 5-3
24 Oklahoma 5-3
25 South Florida 6-2

TedSlimmJr
11-02-2009, 12:40 AM
Boise St.? :lol:


Beware TCU....whoever plays that team in a BCS bowl is going to have their hands full.....

They play a physical brand of football and are very balanced offensively and defensively.....they can win the most important battle-within-the-battle against a LOT of these BCS teams.....

....the one at the line of scrimmage....

No gimmicks and gadgets....they just line up and get it done....and they have athletes too....more than one that will play on Sundays....

I like this team and the way they're coached...

CedarPhin
11-02-2009, 12:50 AM
Oregon should be higher.

Jaydog57
11-02-2009, 01:56 AM
Boise St.? :lol:


Beware TCU....whoever plays that team in a BCS bowl is going to have their hands full.....

They play a physical brand of football and are very balanced offensively and defensively.....they can win the most important battle-within-the-battle against a LOT of these BCS teams.....

....the one at the line of scrimmage....

No gimmicks and gadgets....they just line up and get it done....and they have athletes too....more than one that will play on Sundays....

I like this team and the way they're coached... They've got a great team, but I think if they played a team like Alabama or Texas they might get their ***** handed to them. I hope they don't, but I think that's what'll happen.:)

CedarPhin
11-02-2009, 01:59 AM
Gary Patterson's a great coach.

JCane
11-02-2009, 02:01 AM
I can't tell you how sick I am to see that ******* Dave Wannstedt and the Pitt Panthers ahead of my Miami Hurricanes...

TedSlimmJr
11-02-2009, 02:20 AM
They've got a great team, but I think if they played a team like Alabama or Texas they might get their ***** handed to them. I hope they don't, but I think that's what'll happen.:)


I think so too....which is why I said a LOT of these BCS teams and not ALL of them...

For example....I think teams like Ohio St....Oklahoma St....Cal....Miami (snicker)..etc... would have their hands full with TCU.....I think TCU would win at the LOS....and pretty much have their way offensively and defensively.....

Teams like Bama....Texas...Florida....even VT....not so much....

Rafiki
11-02-2009, 01:24 PM
Boise St.? :lol:

Shut it, Hater. Boise State dominated Oregon who in turn dominated USC.

But it will never matter to BCS homers like you. I remember a month ago everyone was like "yeah, Boise st. dominated Oregon, but Oregon sux..."

Now Oregon is great but Boise State still gets no respect. That's fine. They'll have to prove (again) that deserve their ranking, while schools like Ohio St. and Oklahoma skate by on reputation alone.

kpcane
11-02-2009, 01:51 PM
Shut it, Hater. Boise State dominated Oregon who in turn dominated USC.

But it will never matter to BCS homers like you. I remember a month ago everyone was like "yeah, Boise st. dominated Oregon, but Oregon sux..."

Now Oregon is great but Boise State still gets no respect. That's fine. They'll have to prove (again) that deserve their ranking, while schools like Ohio St. and Oklahoma skate by on reputation alone.

Oh my god, what a thought! Welcome to what the rest of the BCS has to go through, playing tough conference schedules week in and week out. Boise will never be ranked high as long as they only play one competitive game per year. Those Oregon wins do not count as Boise State wins, no matter how hard you try.

RustyGator
11-02-2009, 01:57 PM
I agree. Play tough competition every week and see what happens. Ridiculous that these schools even have a SHOT at a BCS game, let alone a National Championship. It's a lot easier to PLAY UP for 1-2 games per year. "But we beat Bama, but we beat Oklahoma" mid-majors will tell you. BIG DEAL. Oklahoma? How many non-conference big games has Stoopsy won in the past 5 years? Bama? Completely unprepared. That's all Nick Satan's fault. Plus they didn't have their 2304938 lb lineman, their best player, in the game.

Rafiki
11-02-2009, 01:59 PM
Oh my god, what a thought! Welcome to what the rest of the BCS has to go through, playing tough conference schedules week in and week out. Boise will never be ranked high as long as they only play one competitive game per year. Those Oregon wins do not count as Boise State wins, no matter how hard you try.

Apparently you are clueless to the fact that Boise tries unsuccessfully to schedule BCS schools. Why would BCS schools want to schedule a tough OOC team like Boise when everyone believes their in-conference games are enough to justify a BCS bowl? Why would they want to risk a loss against Boise when they can just schedule FIU?

You guys keep acting like everyone would play Boise given the opportunity. They're just waiting patiently for Boise State to come and schedule them; oh if only that were true.

Maybe next year they should just drop their scheduled opponents and force USC to play them. It's as easy as that, am I right?

Rafiki
11-02-2009, 02:02 PM
I agree. Play tough competition every week and see what happens. Ridiculous that these schools even have a SHOT at a BCS game, let alone a National Championship. It's a lot easier to PLAY UP for 1-2 games per year. "But we beat Bama, but we beat Oklahoma" mid-majors will tell you. BIG DEAL. Oklahoma? How many non-conference big games has Stoopsy won in the past 5 years? Bama? Completely unprepared. That's all Nick Satan's fault. Plus they didn't have their 2304938 lb lineman, their best player, in the game.

Wow, that's a unique perspective. I guess Boise State will just have stop farting around and finally join the Pac 10 next year. Great idea!

RustyGator
11-02-2009, 02:04 PM
Obviously the system is flawed. But the fact of the matter is, if your schedule is as cake as mid-majors, then they shouldn't be able to play in a National Championship game. The NC game should be the best of the best. Not the best of the mids. If all these mid-majors are so fed up with the system, why don't all the best ones combine and make their own conference? Utah, BS, BYU, TCU, etc. If all those good ones joined together, I'd give them more cred for sure.

kpcane
11-02-2009, 02:06 PM
Apparently you are clueless to the fact that Boise tries unsuccessfully to schedule BCS schools. Why would BCS schools want to schedule a tough OOC team like Boise when everyone believes their in-conference games are enough to justify a BCS bowl? Why would they want to risk a loss against Boise when they can just schedule FIU?

You guys keep acting like everyone would play Boise given the opportunity. They're just waiting patiently for Boise State to come and schedule them; oh if only that were true.

Maybe next year they should just drop their scheduled opponents and force USC to play them. It's as easy as that, am I right?

I don't care about your stupid @ss excuses. Until Boise plays a consistently tough schedule, they don't deserve to be ranked high. USF, UCF, TCU, Louisville, and a bunch of other schools have all made the climb through consistently scheduling BCS schools, so you're "wah, wah, nobody wants to play with us" excuse is invalid. You guys don't have to play USC every year, but 2-3 pac-10 schools, 2-3 big 12 schools, and you guys would start getting respect. Oregon's a start, but you need much, much more.

Rafiki
11-02-2009, 02:08 PM
Obviously the system is flawed. But the fact of the matter is, if your schedule is as cake as mid-majors, then they shouldn't be able to play in a National Championship game. The NC game should be the best of the best. Not the best of the mids. If all these mid-majors are so fed up with the system, why don't all the best ones combine and make their own conference? Utah, BS, BYU, TCU, etc. If all those good ones joined together, I'd give them more cred for sure.


They might join the MWC, but that's not up to BSU. BSU will play anyone. They tried to schedule Michigan for the 2010 season, but Michigan ultimately balked. Luckily BSU was able to schedule VT for October 2, 2010.

But again, that won't matter. If Boise State wins Virginia Tech in 2010, it will be because VT is playing poorly and not because BSU is a good team. Watch and see.

RustyGator
11-02-2009, 02:12 PM
I totally understand your dilemma. If I'm not mistaken, Boise State wanted a home and away with Florida? I could be wrong about that. That's going to be hard for a mid-major to get because UF isn't going to want to give away all the money that comes with that extra home game every year. Every big program, like USC, is probably going to say the same thing. It's a crappy situation, because Boise State isn't going to want to play out of conference and away from home for all those games, but if ya wanna play for a National Championship, then I don't know what else can be done.

Rafiki
11-02-2009, 02:13 PM
I don't care about your stupid @ss excuses. Until Boise plays a consistently tough schedule, they don't deserve to be ranked high. USF, UCF, TCU, Louisville, and a bunch of other schools have all made the climb through consistently scheduling BCS schools, so you're "wah, wah, nobody wants to play with us" excuse is invalid. You guys don't have to play USC every year, but 2-3 pac-10 schools, 2-3 big 12 schools, and you guys would start getting respect. Oregon's a start, but you need much, much more.

Then why even have the FBS system? Apparently only 60 of the 120 teams will ever have a real chance at the national title. Why don't they just make the AQ teams a separate system, since they're the only ones that will ever meet your standards?

It's crap. Either give teams like TCU and Boise St. a realistic shot or make a playoff system.

kpcane
11-02-2009, 02:19 PM
Then why even have the FBS system? Apparently only 60 of the 120 teams will ever have a real chance at the national title. Why don't they just make the AQ teams a separate system, since they're the only ones that will ever meet your standards?

It's crap. Either give teams like TCU and Boise St. a realistic shot or make a playoff system.

You're preaching to the choir man. I know it's not fair to Boise, it's not fair to a lot of teams, even ones in BCS conferences. All I'm saying is that playing a conference schedule in the BCS is tough. You can look at Iowa and say, well they only play one good team all year in Penn State. Well, ok, but they also have to play a tough Ohio State team, a tough Michigan team, heck even teams like Purdue, Wisconsin and Illinois will not go down without a fight. You simply don't see that in the mid-majors. It's a dog-fight every week, and it's tough to go undefeated or only lose one game. That's why Oregon is getting more respect than Boise, and a lot of other BCS squads will too.

I don't think the BCS gives a real national champion, and I think there should be a playoff system, but this is just the way it is right now. You need to earn a spot in that game.

WISfinfan13
11-02-2009, 02:20 PM
I have a novel idea, instead of politics, bickering and banter deciding who plays in the National Championship game. I think college football should try this thing where they take the top 8 teams in the nation, set up this thing called a bracket, the #1 plays the #8, #2 play #7, #3 plays #6, and #4 plays #5. The winner than moves on. After 6 games you will have two teams left! And that will be how we decide the National Champion. They could call it a playoff. Wow I cant believe respected sports leagues have never thought of this....O wait.

Rafiki
11-02-2009, 02:23 PM
The object of the BCS system is to keep BCS money in the BCS conferences, not to find an actual champion. Sportsmanship be damned.

RustyGator
11-02-2009, 02:31 PM
This world is all about the money. Very unfortunate indeed.

kpcane
11-02-2009, 02:42 PM
The object of the BCS system is to keep BCS money in the BCS conferences, not to find an actual champion. Sportsmanship be damned.

That's the second objective. The first is to make a boatload of money - sportsmanship be damned. As I said earlier, there are BCS teams that are still being screwed. Look at USC and Texas last year. No fair shot at the title, yet similar records/resumes as the other guys.

TedSlimmJr
11-02-2009, 06:15 PM
Shut it, Hater. Boise State dominated Oregon who in turn dominated USC.

But it will never matter to BCS homers like you. I remember a month ago everyone was like "yeah, Boise st. dominated Oregon, but Oregon sux..."

Now Oregon is great but Boise State still gets no respect. That's fine. They'll have to prove (again) that deserve their ranking, while schools like Ohio St. and Oklahoma skate by on reputation alone.


I understand what you're getting at in this thread.....trust me I do....

But here's the thing....how the hell can you honestly say that Boise deserves a shot at the NC with that complete joke of a schedule over BCS teams that get beat up EVERY week in tough BCS conferences?

Vanderbilt is the worse team in the SEC....and they would probably have 1 loss with Boise's schedule.

Everyone in here knows that the BCS Bowls are about revenue....they invite who they want to play in their respective bowl games based on who they think is going to draw the most revenue...

Texas, Ohio St., Alabama, USC, etc..etc..etc.....don't care anymore about winning one of those useless BCS bowls than Boise does.....because they're still all just as meaningless as the Credit Union Bowl.....only one bowl game matters....and that's the one that decides the national champion...

I hate the current system.....I'd much rather have a playoff.....and so would the coaches....

But the current system is what it is....it doesn't reward going undefeated in joke conferences.....nor should it...

Even a Boise fan would have to admit that Oregon isn't the same team that took the field in week 1....not even close....I think Boise would lose by 2 touchdowns if they played Oregon now...

Just like Texas isn't the same team now that they were when they struggled against Wyoming at the beginning of the season....

Boise IS rewarded for their ONLY good win this season....that's why they're where they are in the BCS....but mid majors have a ceiling on how high they can go......because of their SCHEDULES and joke CONFERENCES.....what the hell else do you expect?

It's kinda like that health class you took in high school where they told you to "be careful who you sleep with...because you're sleeping with everyone that they've slept with"....etc...

This current system is no different....you're playing everyone that your opponent has played...

Teams from BCS conferences with everything to lose and nothing to gain don't want to sleep with Boise....:lol:......and you can't blame them.....

Teams like Oklahoma and Ohio St. skate by because they PLAY SOMEBODY every week....they play a lot of teams that legitimately have a shot at beating them.....how many of those type teams does Boise play?

Sorry dude...but a lone win over a team like Oregon in the first game of the season just doesn't convince BCS homers like me who has to watch their team scratch fight and claw every week against a physical beast in the SEC who goes 2 deep at every position....

Flip Tanneflop
11-02-2009, 07:24 PM
College football and their whole poll system completely ****ing blows and should be laughed at by everyone. Its a ****ing joke.

Now, while I personally believe Bama is tough as hell, there are some teams that get totally ripped in this bs.

If you made me answer I would probably tell ya that Florida and Texas along with Bama are the best 3 teams, but I cant say that for certain. I think of all the teams that are getting **** on, TCU and Boise are legit as hell. Especially TCU.

I cant say for certain that those 3 teams would beat TCU or even Boise for that matter. Id like to see them try and do it on the ****ing field. Until then, why do the media and most fans seem to so arrogantly dismiss TCU and Boise as if there is no way in hell they could beat those teams?

In college hoop it isnt uncommon at all for a team like that who people "pretend" to think highly of and rank them accordingly(like TCU and Boise) to wind up playing and BEATING in the tournament the Uconns and UNCs of the world. Why the hell cant TCU and Boise really be as good as they are ranked, and in fact simply better than Florida?

Let em play.

College football blows.

On a side note, I feel pretty confident that Iowa and Cinci arent even one of the best 10 teams in the country. However, TCU and Boise I cant say for certain that they arent the best 2 teams in the country. Id like to see them play a couple more schools from the major conferences.

Actually Id just like to see them play in a ****ing tournament a.k.a a playoff and see if they beat Florida, Texas, Bama, and some of the others along the way. Boise and TCU might just wind up in the championship game. Whats wrong with that? Its amatures.

In the hoop smaller schools like Georgetown, Villanova, and some others wind up playing for the title. So why cant Texas Christian? How is that any different from the catholic school from Philly getting in the title game?

College football is all political bs that factors in reputation when it decides its champion. The champ isnt decided on the field, because the participants in the championship game are decided by a bunch of moron ****ing writers, coaches, and a few computers. How ****ing lame.

Where they rank you at the beginning of the season, is a factor in where you are ranked at the end of the season. And why the hell should where you are ranked at the beginning matter? Guess they were all right about USC, Ohio St, and Cinci huh. Its so gay.

And the human polls will surely never rank TCU and Boise past 4th or 5th to ensure they dont get enough points to be ranked 1 or 2 in the BCS. They will keep ranking them there no matter who wins and loses ahead of them the rest of the way. That way they know even if the computers rank them 1st, they wont get enough points in the BCS format to play for the title. Its just a crock of ****.

And the tournament talk blows too because they still dont get it. Most of the people who want a tournament want some bs like the top 8 ranked. Again with the RANKING. **** some dip****s ranking. Then the process is still POLITICAL and based on utter BS.

Whos to say the team these dip****s have ranked 9th or the one ranked 15th isnt really the best team in the country?

Rankings blow. WVU was ****ing ranked last week despite the fact they completely blow and hadnt beaten a team that was any better than a random set of kids I could round up in my neighborhood. Then they lost to a ****ty Auburn team. But, they were 6-1.....so they ranked them. Its such bs.

And anyone that tells me Oklahoma isnt one of the best 15 or so teams in the country just because they have 3 losses is a ****ing moron. Yea, they lost 3 games.....two by one ****ing point to a good BYU team and a good Miami team on the road. Then they lost by 3 to a Texas team that everyone seems to agree is one of the best 3 teams in the county. So how the **** does that mean Oklahoma isnt a top 15 team???? Plus you had em ranked in the top 5 when the season started. They lose 3 close games to teams all ranked fairly high so all of the sudden they barely get ranked themselves? Get real.

And no Im not measuring the team based on the QB getting injured. Im not saying, well their QB got hurt so they really arent that bad. Im saying their QB got hurt so Im ****ing eliminating him from the equasion. Im saying even with the backup QB, they are still a top 15 team and their play has proven it. If they had Bradford, thats a different discussion. But, they dont. You might want to argue they would be undefeated....maybe. But, they dont have him, so its irrelevant. All I can do is try and figure how good they are without him since he isnt there. Id say they are at least top 15 if not better.

And thats how the rankings should be done. Try and go beyond the record could ya please. Then you wouldnt have a ****ty WVU team that probably isnt a top 50 team ranked just because they were 6-1.

The problem still exists though.....where do you rank TCU and Boise. You cant sit there and tell me that there is no doubt they arent as good or better than Florida, Bama, and Texas. Those teams simply havent played enough real opponents to measure it with any accuracy. Now, if they had been squeeking by some of these **** teams they play, I would say **** em. But, they completely destroy their competition. TCU looks awfully impressive to me. They have power and speed. Id really like to see them play Florida. I think they could take em.

Too bad college football is a ****ing joke.

Rafiki
11-04-2009, 01:01 AM
Just as a quick last thought, I ran into this story of how BSU ended up playing VT.


According to the Idaho Statesman, better teams won't play ball:

"WAC commissioner Karl Benson said Tuesday that several high-profile programs have turned down a chance to play a home game against Boise State in 2011. Boise State — with help from ESPN, Benson said — has been shopping for a game to fill out its 2011 schedule. Benson wasn't sure of the exact number of schools that had said no, but figured it was close to 10. The Broncos weren't asking for any games in Boise in return, he said.

"They're running into a situation where nobody will schedule them, nobody will take them," Benson said."

Quted article by Chadd Cripe, Idaho Statesman.

Maybe they should try harder?

Flip Tanneflop
11-04-2009, 11:52 AM
Just as a quick last thought, I ran into this story of how BSU ended up playing VT.



Maybe they should try harder?

Why would these teams want to host Boise when they can continue to play total **** teams and pretend they have tough schedules.

For instance, Ohio St can play New Mexico St. like they did last week and continue to play the total **** teams that reside in the big 11. Then if they go undefeated, or sometimes even lose a game, play for the national title. Based mainly on the fact they are presented that opportunity EVERY YEAR by being ranked in the top 5 before games are even played.

:lol: And you want them to host a good team like Boise so they can get ****hammered by a superior opponent and not hide behind their reputation and hope to squeek out wins vs a VERY SOFT Big 11 schedule and let everyone pretend that conference is so superior to the MWC.

Get real. Thats like asking a bank robber that you never have any hopes of catching to turn himself in.

RustyGator
11-04-2009, 12:38 PM
Not a bad point at all. Why schedule a game that you're going to lose 4 out of 10 times and worsen your chances of a National Championship game right off the bat.

kpcane
11-04-2009, 02:30 PM
These are such absurd, absurd arguments.

Why did Miami play Oklahoma, and USF this year?

Why did Va Tech play Alabama and Nebraska this year, and Boise next year?

Let's not act like we should feel bad for a team that got turned down by 10 different schools. College football is a business. If the school can make money by scheduling you, they'll do it. Boise's already scheduled Oregon and Va Tech, so please, let's not act like it's impossible for them to schedule some teams. I'm sure they could schedule Washington/Washington St., Colorado, Arizona/Arizona St., or even teams that are trying to make a name for themselves too, like Kansas. That's all Boise has to do. Schedule one big name opponent, and several middle of the road teams. That's a heck of a lot more than they're doing now.

But they won't get the respect they think they deserve until they join a major conference.

HurriPhin
11-04-2009, 03:49 PM
Oh my god, what a thought! Welcome to what the rest of the BCS has to go through, playing tough conference schedules week in and week out. Boise will never be ranked high as long as they only play one competitive game per year. Those Oregon wins do not count as Boise State wins, no matter how hard you try.

So why are the ga*tors ranked #1 this year? :confused:

Rafiki
11-04-2009, 06:31 PM
These are such absurd, absurd arguments.

Why did Miami play Oklahoma, and USF this year?

Why did Va Tech play Alabama and Nebraska this year, and Boise next year?

Let's not act like we should feel bad for a team that got turned down by 10 different schools. College football is a business. If the school can make money by scheduling you, they'll do it. Boise's already scheduled Oregon and Va Tech, so please, let's not act like it's impossible for them to schedule some teams. I'm sure they could schedule Washington/Washington St., Colorado, Arizona/Arizona St., or even teams that are trying to make a name for themselves too, like Kansas. That's all Boise has to do. Schedule one big name opponent, and several middle of the road teams. That's a heck of a lot more than they're doing now.

But they won't get the respect they think they deserve until they join a major conference.

I just posted that to show that they do try to schedule tougher opponents.

Everyone says, "they need to schedule tougher opponents", like all they have to do is ask. Apparently, they've been asking.

kpcane
11-04-2009, 06:42 PM
So why are the ga*tors ranked #1 this year? :confused:

As much as I hate the Gators and think the SEC is overrated, let's not act like Tennessee and Georgia aren't competitive teams. And they still have to play South Carolina, FSU, and Alabama. It may not be the toughest schedule in the world, but it's tough enough. Certainly tougher than Boise's.

CedarPhin
11-04-2009, 07:37 PM
I just posted that to show that they do try to schedule tougher opponents.

Everyone says, "they need to schedule tougher opponents", like all they have to do is ask. Apparently, they've been asking.

It's kind of like Hawaii in 2007. They wanted to play Michigan in the first game, but Michigan wanted no part of them and played Appalachian State instead (we saw how that turned out). I think Michigan State dropped them too.

It's tough to play a hard schedule when no one will play you.

Same thing with the Gators dropping Miami "to play a more national schedule", and replaced them with Montana State.

Tough to play a hard schedule when no one will play you.

Rafiki
11-05-2009, 12:24 AM
But they won't get the respect they think they deserve until they join a major conference.

This might be true, and it's unfortunate. A school in a non-automatic qualifying conference, even though they are technically in the same league as an automatic-qualifying conference school, will NEVER have a chance at the national championship under the current system.

Name another NCAA sport that is set up this way.

Finfang
11-05-2009, 01:11 AM
Cincy doesn't belong in the BCS.

:crazy:

TedSlimmJr
11-06-2009, 12:24 PM
Just as a quick last thought, I ran into this story of how BSU ended up playing VT.



Maybe they should try harder?


I've already explained this......

None of the "big dawgs" want to sleep with Boise........there is nothing to gain by winning the game....and everything to lose by losing it....

I guess all of the "BCS homers" could just look at our teams schedules for 2011 and see who still has an opening and speculate that it could've been us?

Alabama scheduled the #7 team in the country as their first game of the season this year from a BCS conference......beat them by 10....

Where'd that get us? When Florida was playing glorified high school teams at the time....

Don't blame the teams with everything to lose and nothing to gain by beating Boise....

...blame the system...

OR join a BCS conference...

Oraclepz
11-06-2009, 05:51 PM
Shut it, Hater. Boise State dominated Oregon who in turn dominated USC.

But it will never matter to BCS homers like you. I remember a month ago everyone was like "yeah, Boise st. dominated Oregon, but Oregon sux..."

Now Oregon is great but Boise State still gets no respect. That's fine. They'll have to prove (again) that deserve their ranking, while schools like Ohio St. and Oklahoma skate by on reputation alone.

what about oklahoma? theyre 5-3 and in the top 25 BCS is a joke

RustyGator
11-06-2009, 07:09 PM
Having a big name carries a lot of weight. That's why FSU and Notre Dame are always in the top 25 to start the year no matter how bad they are. Again, it's just the system. Not much any of us can do about it. Money will dictate where the sport goes in the future. A playoff system isn't not implemented because the NCAA thinks it's unfair [wow that sentence had too many negatives]. It's all about money. ABC owns the Rose Bowl...I doubt they EVER want to join into a playoff system. It diminishes their game.