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Arsenal WV
12-04-2009, 01:42 PM
The likes of Miami, and possibly Clemson.


First off, I'm a WVU fan. We pretty much have the Gator locked up because we are known to travel very well and sell tickets. I think we've also earned a GB spot with our record too.

Switching off to Florida State, Coach Bobby Bowden said he "wanted his last game to be played in Florida" And the FSU people got in contact with the GB people and worked out something. I understand this is Bobby Bowdens last year and he will be playing against the team he coached at before he left for FSU. But what about the teams in the ACC who are better than FSU record wise that are going to play in crappy bowl games just because Bowden said he was retiring and said he wanted to play a bowl game in Florida

I think this is B.S. and unfair at best


thoughts?

CedarPhin
12-04-2009, 04:16 PM
I think it's retarded that they're taking FSU, I'd have much rather had Miami in there.

CedarPhin
12-04-2009, 04:17 PM
Don't forget too that Bowden's first head coaching gig was at WVU too. It's all for ratings I guess.

jared81
12-04-2009, 06:06 PM
if nots not about the money, its the money. and then if its not about the money, then its the money.

Kdawg954
12-05-2009, 11:33 AM
Money and Ratings.

The Bowl system is a complete JOKE and this proves it. Sure, its great financially . . . but it really needs to be updated.

X-Pacolypse
12-05-2009, 02:09 PM
To reiterate what others have said.... It's all about MONEY and RATINGS. This is probably the biggest reasons as to why NCAA Division 1 Football won't have a playoff system.

JCane
12-05-2009, 03:55 PM
It's all related to Bowden's last game as Florida State head coach. This is an historic event in Florida State football. Like you stated, West Virginia will bring the crowd. They always do. Florida State is iffy but with this being Bowden's final game, Seminole fans will pack that stadium as well as Ducal County hotels and restaurants.

I honestly have no problem with it. Everything is about money. That's why you and I leave job A paying X for job B paying Y. People have to understand that the bowl system and college football conference partnerships are a BUSINESS first. The idea of business is to MAKE MONEY. That's also why Virginia Tech was selected of hometown Georgia Tech despite the fact that Georgia Tech could very well lose tonight. The Hokies travel well AND they'll fill up hotel rooms. Georgia Tech fans won't fill up the hotels and restaurants. Hokie fans will.

COphinphan89
12-05-2009, 09:03 PM
Sorry. I know Bobby is a great coach and I have a lot of respect for him, but to put a 6-6 FSU team in there over a Miami team that is better than they are and a loser of the ACC title game who is also better than they are is ridiculous. It's too bad ND turned down a bowl bid. They probably could have gotten into the game too.

Flip Tanneflop
12-05-2009, 09:06 PM
Its not like any of the ACC teams are any good anyway. So whats it matter?

Come to think of it, any of the big east teams they could put in there blow too.

So no matter how you slice it, the gator bowl was destined to be garbage team vs. garbage team. Would it really matter which 2 they took?

kpcane
12-05-2009, 09:10 PM
Its not like any of the ACC teams are any good anyway. So whats it matter?

Come to think of it, any of the big east teams they could put in there blow too.

So no matter how you slice it, the gator bowl was destined to be garbage team vs. garbage team. Would it really matter which 2 they took?

You're really calling Miami "garbage"? Wow.....

Flip Tanneflop
12-05-2009, 09:12 PM
You're really calling Miami "garbage"? Wow.....

Who have they beaten that is any good this year? Im sure they have lost to a garbage team themselves.

All you need to know is last week the two teams playing in the ACC title game tonight both got DESTROYED by two teams from the middle of the pack in the SEC.

kpcane
12-05-2009, 09:20 PM
Who have they beaten that is any good this year? Im sure they have lost to a garbage team themselves.

All you need to know is last week the two teams playing in the ACC title game tonight both got DESTROYED by two teams from the middle of the pack in the SEC.

Ok, so the SEC is better than us. What's your point? The SEC is better than everybody.

Sagarin rankings have us at the 15th toughest schedule, so I guess we've beaten somebody this year.

Arsenal WV
12-06-2009, 01:41 AM
I still think it's Bull ****

It's not fair at all to teams who have busted their ***** all season to get a good record, then a higher up bowl game takes a team with a .500 record

**** FSU

Kdawg954
12-06-2009, 01:48 AM
Miami should have just beaten Clemson and UNC like they were supposed to and Canes fans wouldn't have to worry. Regardless, the bowl system is a joke, so I'm not losing any sleep of FSU getting a special invite for Bowden's farewell.

Is it fair . . . nope . . . but in reality, does it really matter?

Gonzo
12-06-2009, 01:55 AM
I honestly can't tell you the last time I watched a bowl game other than the National "Championship," so I really couldn't care less...which is sad, because I love college football outside of the arbitrary bowl games.

Kdawg954
12-06-2009, 02:12 AM
I honestly can't tell you the last time I watched a bowl game other than the National "Championship," so I really couldn't care less...which is sad, because I love college football outside of the arbitrary bowl games.

I mean I watch them . . . but u are right, they are supposed to have more meaning than the regular season . . . but I don't feel they do. I am not stressing to watch them, if I am home and the game is on, I will tune in . . . thats about it.

Gonzo
12-06-2009, 02:45 AM
I mean I watch them . . . but u are right, they are supposed to have more meaning than the regular season . . . but I don't feel they do. I am not stressing to watch them, if I am home and the game is on, I will tune in . . . thats about it.
Yeah, me too. I certainly won't go out of my way, but if I'm flipping channels, I may stop for a bit. Kinda like Roadhouse, Goodfellas, any Bill Murray or Chevy Chase 80's movie, or Cinemax porn. Actually, no bowl game stands a chance if any of those are on.

MelbournePhin
01-01-2010, 05:41 PM
any more questions haters? fsu rebirth about to begin.........

kpcane
01-01-2010, 05:55 PM
any more questions haters? fsu rebirth about to begin.........

Weren't you the guy saying that FSU was going to win the ACC? And now you're bragging about having the worst record in the conference among bowl-eligible teams? FSU should have been in the Emerald Bowl. Winning the Gator doesn't prove anything. It most certainly does NOT mean that they deserved to be there over the many ACC teams with better records.

Arsenal WV
01-01-2010, 06:06 PM
any more questions haters? fsu rebirth about to begin.........

lol


you guys won because your coach of 30 something years is leaving. Nothing more or less. You will be average next year. I'll put money on it

X-Pacolypse
01-01-2010, 07:49 PM
any more questions haters? fsu rebirth about to begin.........

I'll believe it when I see it. Had Jarrett Brown not gotten injured, you may have been singing a different tune this evening.

MelbournePhin
01-01-2010, 08:55 PM
sit back and enjoy the ride.......lol at the haters

MelbournePhin
01-01-2010, 09:34 PM
I'll believe it when I see it. Had Jarrett Brown not gotten injured, you may have been singing a different tune this evening.



gee, i guess fsu missing ponder means nothing

bigchub22
01-03-2010, 01:29 AM
cause they wanted Bobby to go out with a for sure win and thats what we do against the mountainqueers.... 3-0 last 3 vs them

JCane
01-03-2010, 03:11 AM
yes, i come here to spew nonsense, like most of the posts on this site

Keep up the solid work.

:up:

Jimi
01-03-2010, 04:20 AM
Say what you will, Ponder was one of the best QBs in college when healthy. Hell be a senior along with most of our offensive line. Were bringing back all our WRs and RBs and a lot of the defense. We got a couple stud DB recruits which is by far the biggest problem all year.

The talent is there, Jimbo will use it. FSU is back.

kpcane
01-03-2010, 11:17 AM
Say what you will, Ponder was one of the best QBs in college when healthy. Hell be a senior along with most of our offensive line. Were bringing back all our WRs and RBs and a lot of the defense. We got a couple stud DB recruits which is by far the biggest problem all year.

The talent is there, Jimbo will use it. FSU is back.

Bringing back a lot of that defense is not something to be too happy about.

bigchub22
01-03-2010, 12:07 PM
Bringing back a lot of that defense is not something to be too happy about.

Actually it is its called experience, if your a fan of college football you would know that. Lol to those that don't think Ponder is a stud he was having one of the best years for a qb, he is a heisman darkhorse next year by the college analysts

kpcane
01-03-2010, 12:12 PM
Actually it is its called experience, if your a fan of college football you would know that. Lol to those that don't think Ponder is a stud he was having one of the best years for a qb, he is a heisman darkhorse next year by the college analysts

Actually it's called lack of talent. Doesn't matter how much experience they get if they suck. The only good one is Reid.

And nobody has said a bad word about Ponder on this thread, are you guys all paranoid? Ponder's great, but let's get real for a minute and realize that FSU wasn't a dominant team WITH Ponder this year, so him coming back isn't going to be the difference maker. It's going to be about how much the defense improves. After watching Bradham in the Gator Bowl, I realize why Arthur Brown isn't playing.

bigchub22
01-03-2010, 01:53 PM
Actually it's called lack of talent. Doesn't matter how much experience they get if they suck. The only good one is Reid.

And nobody has said a bad word about Ponder on this thread, are you guys all paranoid? Ponder's great, but let's get real for a minute and realize that FSU wasn't a dominant team WITH Ponder this year, so him coming back isn't going to be the difference maker. It's going to be about how much the defense improves. After watching Bradham in the Gator Bowl, I realize why Arthur Brown isn't playing.

Yawn.........Reid is the only good one :crazy:

Jimi
01-04-2010, 06:26 AM
Actually it's called lack of talent. Doesn't matter how much experience they get if they suck. The only good one is Reid.

And nobody has said a bad word about Ponder on this thread, are you guys all paranoid? Ponder's great, but let's get real for a minute and realize that FSU wasn't a dominant team WITH Ponder this year, so him coming back isn't going to be the difference maker. It's going to be about how much the defense improves. After watching Bradham in the Gator Bowl, I realize why Arthur Brown isn't playing.

Talent has not been a problem on this defense for a while (other than secondary as of late). Luckily we got a couple stud recruits back there.

Our front 7 has some power, if we get a consistent pash rush threat on the outside they could be a force.

kpcane
01-04-2010, 12:35 PM
Talent has not been a problem on this defense for a while (other than secondary as of late). Luckily we got a couple stud recruits back there.

Our front 7 has some power, if we get a consistent pash rush threat on the outside they could be a force.

FSU was ranked last in the ACC in total defense (by almost 50 yards), and 10th in the ACC (third from last) in scoring defense.

If you're happy about those players all coming back, you're more than welcome to. But don't think it's actually a good thing.

Flip Tanneflop
01-05-2010, 12:34 PM
lol


you guys won because your coach of 30 something years is leaving. Nothing more or less. You will be average next year. I'll put money on it

No. They won because WVU football ****ing blows.

They won because Ed Pastalong decided to hire Gomer ****ing Pile as the Head Coach. Who gives Noel Devine 5 ****ing carries in the 2nd half vs. a team with no ability to stop the run?? There is a reason CJ Spiller ran for 3400 yards in one game vs. Florida State and they scored 247 points on that ****ty defense.

The 2nd half shouldve been handoffs to Devine, Clarke, and Sanders over and over and over.

Bill "Gomer" Stewart is a ****ing moron and Mountaineer football will continue to blow because the fans love it and accept mediocrity and beating a bunch of **** teams.