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CedarPhin
12-05-2009, 09:00 PM
Can't wait to watch this one. Premieres after the Heisman ceremony on ESPN.

Looks good.

CedarPhin
12-05-2009, 09:01 PM
Barry Jackson reviews it:

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/columnists/barry-jackson/story/1364557.html



• Leon Searcy, on criticism of UM running up the score in a 58-7 win over Notre Dame in 1985: ``It's football, not badminton. What are we supposed to do? Take a knee and punt?''

• Former UM athletic director Sam Jankovich, on Randal Hill running through a tunnel after a touchdown in the 46-3 Cotton Bowl blowout of Texas (Jan. 1, 1991) and then coming back and pretending he was shooting pistols: ``Hill put on a demonstration that was totally disgusting as far as I was concerned.'' In his interview, Hill listed numerous people who should be blamed, but not him: ``Blame the architect of that stadium. . . . Blame the defensive back for not being able to cover me.''

Dolfan3773
12-06-2009, 03:39 AM
Yeah I can't wait either...

Awsi Dooger
12-06-2009, 04:00 AM
I'm looking forward to this more than our bowl game. :lol:

Wish that era had never ended...

CedarPhin
12-06-2009, 04:29 AM
I got chills the first time I saw the trailer for it.

Looks solid.

Dolfan3773
12-06-2009, 08:20 AM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/12/15464_1304787539436_1222939131_3094-1.jpg

The U!

I love this pic

BessIsABeast
12-13-2009, 12:09 AM
That's a BA pic! After seeing the documentary, I definitely have a different view on the Canes. It was an awesome movie.

Adam First
12-13-2009, 12:15 AM
Excellent movie. Have no idea why Shalala and the current Canes wanted to keep their distance.

WVDolphan
12-13-2009, 12:31 AM
That was a great documentary.

That beat down over Texas in the cotton bowl that year was just ****ing brutal.

Clipse
12-13-2009, 01:27 AM
Certainly one of the best documentaries I've ever watched. Especially good for a fan of the U, who wasn't around for the great teams of the 80's like myself.

CedarPhin
12-13-2009, 02:30 AM
Extremely well done film. Loved every bit of it.

CedarPhin
12-13-2009, 02:33 AM
For anyone that's interested, ESPNClassic is airing old Canes title games all night.

Canes-Bama in 1989 is on now.

BARF
12-13-2009, 08:23 AM
anybody know when the documentary is going to air again forgot to set my dvr

BessIsABeast
12-13-2009, 11:49 AM
Excellent movie. Have no idea why Shalala and the current Canes wanted to keep their distance.

That seems like a common theme at Miami for the administration to stay away from the football team.

TheDon74
12-13-2009, 12:50 PM
anybody know when the documentary is going to air again forgot to set my dvr

ESPN2 11pm Sunday night

JCane
12-13-2009, 01:07 PM
I thought it was well done. For me it was more of a celebration of those great teams of the 1980's rather than an exposure of a renegade program. Then again, it all depends on which side of the fence you were on back then. There was no grey area. It was all black and white. You either loved Miami, or you hated Miami.

Billy Corben did a great job and educating today's youth on how Miami became Miami and how they were the most successful program, not only over the course of that nine year period, but also the most successful program over a 25 year period.

I don't want to drag race into this but back then white America wasn't prepared for what was going on in Miami. Football was really taking shape back in the 1980's with baseball being the more popular sport. And here you have these inner city black kids who have came from nothing and never had anything getting a chance to show themselves in a national spotlight and they took advantage of it. The dancing, the trahs talking, the violence off the field, the arrests...all of that is what helped Miami win titles because it was such an intimidation factor. You were beat before you took the field.

People today want to call college football and the NFL "pansies" or whatever for trying to take the fun out of the game. Now, you see that many of the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties you see today were made due to these Miami football teams. I'm not a big fan of trash talking and all that—I think I've made that clear in every Joey Porter thread here on FinHeaven, but anyone who see that documentary last night seen how much fun it was to talk ****, hit people in the mouth, and let them know about it.

Miami fans, don't become a prisoner of the documentary. Understand that those days are long gone and they're never coming back. Too much has change for it to ever be that way again. Watch that video simply for a trip down memory lane. I seen so many threads on the Mainboard last night started by Hurricane fans after that documentary and you'd have thought we had just won the national title the way dudes were talking **** over there. We are now but a shell of those great teams. Sad, yes, but it is what it is.

By the way, my only complaint about the film is that I could have done without seeing the Orange Bowl being torn down. It brought a few tears to my eyes and the new girl I've been seeing for roughly a week just couldn't understand and I couldn't explain it lol.

RIP
11.10.2007

:(

CedarPhin
12-13-2009, 05:20 PM
The end with the destruction of the OB reminded me of the ending in Casino where all of the old buildings get torn down.

Dolfan3773
12-13-2009, 05:26 PM
Loved the film..I recorded it and I've watched it a few times.

JCane, I'm with you on this. RIP OB

milldog
12-13-2009, 05:30 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2009/12/15464_1304787539436_1222939131_3094-1.jpg

The U!

I love this pic

Sick pic, I want! how can I get???

PorrotheDolfan
12-13-2009, 05:46 PM
I hope they sell this on DVD, if not anyone know where I can download it?

CedarPhin
12-13-2009, 05:47 PM
Sick pic, I want! how can I get???

They're all sold out.

CedarPhin
12-13-2009, 05:52 PM
The 1988 Orange Bowl is on (Miami-OU) ESPNClassic currently.

JCane
12-13-2009, 06:13 PM
I hope they sell this on DVD, if not anyone know where I can download it?

iTunes has several of the 30 for 30 films for $3.99 but I'm not sure if or when they'll have this one.

Arsenal WV
12-13-2009, 08:01 PM
I watched the documentary and thought it was very well done. I'm not a Miami fan. So can somebody tell me why the teams in the 80's had all these players who got introuble all the time? drugs,theft etc...

And is that why Miami is known as "Thug-U" to some people?

JCane
12-13-2009, 08:39 PM
That's exactly why Miami is know as Thug U. And that's exactly why the University wanted nothing to do with that documentary. The school is still trying to move away from that image of the 'Canes. You seen how President Foote essentially wanted to have his cake and eat it too.

But troubles for the players stemmed over various things. Petty crimes to misdemeanors to felony charges. Drug charges, theft, weapons possessions, rape allegations, and assualt charges. Pretty much you name it and the University of Miami was involved in it. And honestly, I don't think it was any different at many other Universities across the land but media exposure for Miami was rampid because of what they were doing on the field. No other team in the nation was drawing that kind of attention to themselves because no other team behaved like they did with their on-field antics.

Miami created one hell of a media snowball effect. It's hard for any program in the country to not have an arrest no matter the severity and it not make the national news. Violence and crimes spike ratings and that's especially true when we're talking about college athletes, professional athletes and celebrities. No one cares when your neighbor gets hit with a drug charge or gets caught cheating on their wife. But the moment a Michael Irvin or Tiger Woods is caught there's a media frenzy to cover these stories. These stories create drama and are very intriguing to the general public.

BessIsABeast
12-13-2009, 09:45 PM
While I think most of that is true, I also think that they helped bring college athletics into the mainstream. But it also helped that ESPN was starting to become the ESPN that we're used to now.

I would say that there was only one team that came close to equaling Miami's success and swagger and that was Florida State. I thought it was interesting how FSU was portrayed in the movie. Was FSU and Miami that similar in the 80's and 90's?

Bta72dolphins
12-13-2009, 11:20 PM
are they going to do a rerun?

CedarPhin
12-13-2009, 11:23 PM
ESPN2 at 11PM.

I think it's going to be on ESPNU at some point as well.

CedarPhin
12-13-2009, 11:24 PM
Bernie looked like an older Bluto Blutarsky in that interview.

CedarPhin
12-13-2009, 11:25 PM
You know, in a way, Miami was alot like those old UNLV teams of the 1980s-early 1990s, who were catching **** because they were beating up on all the traditional powers of CBB.

There are alot of similarities.

BessIsABeast
12-13-2009, 11:47 PM
I was thinking of the Fab Five at Michigan as well. I think the Fab Five did the same thing for basketball that The U did for football. Michigan doesn't even acknowledge that team and it's results exist...very similar when you think about it.

BARF
12-14-2009, 12:30 AM
have not seen the doc yet i cant wait though, but the u broke barriers, i do not think at that time there were any teams that the spotlight was more on them than any other team, it is true what they say the U invented swagger

JCane
12-14-2009, 12:33 AM
have not seen the doc yet i cant wait though, but the u broke barriers, i do not think at that time there were any teams that the spotlight was more on them than any other team, it is true what they say the U invented swagger

You should be watching it right now lol. It's on ESPN2. Half an hour in.

BARF
12-14-2009, 12:41 AM
i rather watch from the beginning thanks anyway

dolfan94
12-14-2009, 09:06 PM
Anyone else hear Jim Mandich bitching on the documentary and especially the University of Miami Football Team as a whole?

I didnt get to see it yet. Anyone know of any reruns at normal time(before 10PM?)

Findetta
12-14-2009, 11:25 PM
The U by Billy Corben (http://30for30.espn.com/film/the-u.html)
Sunday Dec 27
1pm ESPN
We have the Texans game at that time.
I loved the documentary, but I love my fins more.
That documentary was great though.

CedarPhin
12-14-2009, 11:27 PM
Maybe you could DVR it?

Kdawg954
12-15-2009, 11:34 AM
Anyone else hear Jim Mandich bitching on the documentary and especially the University of Miami Football Team as a whole?

I didnt get to see it yet. Anyone know of any reruns at normal time(before 10PM?)

Yea I heard Mandich . . . he is a MEEEEECHIGAN man. He was pretty much saying how they should have had opinions of them from credible sources how really thought the antics they did back then were bad. I guess I kind of agree, it would have been nice to see a guy like Musberger, Berman, maybe a guy like Turner Gil (Nebraska QB) . . . . or some other heralded guys like Maryland and Kennedy. Guys who maybe didn't fully agree with some of the things that were going on and good give it from their angle.

It was funny hearing Lamar Thomas saying how they would get in clubs and Dolphin players were in line begging Lamar to tell them that they were with him. LMAO, imagine Marino, Clayton and Duper standing in Line talking about "hey Lamar, let us in with u". :lol:

JCane
12-15-2009, 12:16 PM
A friend of mine was talking to me about Mandich in an email yesterday. Since we're now discussing it, here's what he said...


Let me tell you something about the Univ of ******ry aka Michigan. I grew up in Detroit during the 70s, and since it was pre-cable TV/ESPN, my only real exposure to CFB was UMich. Mich St was a nothing for the most part. UMich had VERY publicized teams, played in the Rose Bowl all the ****ing time, and prob sould have had a shot at many NCs if Bo didn't suck **** as a HC. All they did was get rated high, and lose when it mattered most. Just like a bunch of fags that they are. As a kid, that **** can get old. The my older bro went to Mich St when Magic was there, and a decent baseball player named Kirk Gibson was an All American WR - they had a good team and won the Big 10. I was sold - Mich St OVER UMich forever, as bad as MSU always was and has continued to be.

Fast forward to August '83, I move to UM. I arrived and a dynasty was born - LOL.

My point is, let the fags from UMich run the banks, cure cancer, run for Congress. They wouldn't know football success if it ****ed them in the ***. Tell Fagg Dogg to shut his ****ing mouth.

Bta72dolphins
12-15-2009, 12:38 PM
I loved it that is why I became a U fan because we are the best and no other college is better.

CedarPhin
12-16-2009, 05:23 PM
The U documentary was the highest rated documentary in ESPN's history.

Pretty solid work.

finataxia24
12-19-2009, 03:57 AM
I recall the sugar bowl

Lamar Thomas with his towel over his head after George teague
schooled him... Google it it's on YouTube
Daniel Moore made a picture of it
I believe titled 'the strip'
The beating Alabama gave Miami ( 34-13)
that game the u lost it's swagger.

Miami had a great dynasty back in the day.
I give them all the respect they deserved it.)
bama was just perfect that year.
I hope & pray bama will get it done this year.

JCane
12-19-2009, 04:07 AM
I recall the sugar bowl

Lamar Thomas with his towel over his head after George teague
schooled him... Google it it's on YouTube
Daniel Moore made a picture of it
I believe titled 'the strip'
The beating Alabama gave Miami ( 34-13)
that game the u lost it's swagger.

Miami had a great dynasty back in the day.
I give them all the respect they deserved it.)
bama was just perfect that year.
I hope & pray bama will get it done this year.

Lamar is actually pretty cool about that whole play. You can ask him about it and he isn't a dick. We've discussed it at tailgates before. Lamar is one of my favorite dudes.

That game sucked though.

CedarPhin
12-19-2009, 04:13 AM
That game was awful.

finataxia24
12-19-2009, 12:49 PM
That game was the opposite of awful

Gonzo
12-19-2009, 01:36 PM
It's on again right now.

sinPHIN
02-01-2010, 02:46 AM
if you havent seen the espn 30 for 30 film the u, you need to. im not a big cane fan(UofL bc i went there) but this is a good film. i know this is irrelevant but in the film it said the canes were bigger than the fins. are any of you bigger u fans than phin fans?

Awsi Dooger
02-01-2010, 07:01 PM
if you havent seen the espn 30 for 30 film the u, you need to. im not a big cane fan(UofL bc i went there) but this is a good film. i know this is irrelevant but in the film it said the canes were bigger than the fins. are any of you bigger u fans than phin fans?

For the 21 seasons the Canes were still in the Orange Bowl but the Dolphins occupied the cement dump, absolutely I was a bigger Canes fan. Now it's back to even.

From my standpoint it's more satisfying to root for the Canes because I endured the lousy years of the late '60s through the '70s when it never appeared we would amount to anything. I attended every home game from maybe 7 years old until I went away to college. It feels like an investment that paid off, in astonishing fashion. The Dolphins, in contrast, weren't bad for very long. Let's see, undefeated in your seventh year of existence. Yeah, that's suffering. :lol: