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COphinphan89
12-11-2009, 05:04 PM
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/11/berry-confirms-next-move-will-be-to-the-nfl/

Oh I wish......

Drubatuba
12-11-2009, 05:42 PM
No thank you.

JT-forpresident
12-11-2009, 05:51 PM
No thank you.



joking, right ? :unsure:

ChadHenne
12-11-2009, 05:52 PM
No thank you.

You are absolutely insane if you would pass on Berry.

I mean, you would have to be mentally unstable to pass on Berry if every other team's GM gets hit by a bus the day of the draft and he falls to the Dolphins.

I mean come on, SERIOUSLY?

3rdandinches
12-11-2009, 06:22 PM
You are absolutely insane if you would pass on Berry.

I mean, you would have to be mentally unstable to pass on Berry if every other team's GM gets hit by a bus the day of the draft and he falls to the Dolphins.

I mean come on, SERIOUSLY?


I'm gonna go alittle Madden here, if Berry falls to KC I would look at trading with them. They need help at LB,S,RB and WR so here's my proposal.....

R.Brown, C.Crowder, Y.Bell, T.Ginn (or Cam) - KC 1st and flip 3rd's

Then we take Berry!

Now of course I'm counting on signing a real good FA ILB and WR.

Personally I think it's pretty good value KC gets a real good starting RB,S,LB and 2nd/3rd WR filling 4 positions for 1 draft pick.

Like I said Madden but interesting.

PhinsRDbest
12-11-2009, 06:25 PM
Ireland loves ball-hawking safety's. We could sure use a ball-hawking safety like him or Earl Thomas.

hooshoops
12-11-2009, 06:25 PM
lol... "no thank you" to a franchise caliber safety...the best in quite a while

JCane
12-11-2009, 06:39 PM
No thank you.

I would say no thank to sex before I said no thank you to Eric Berry.

LOL @ No thank you. Eric Berry is sitting there for the Dolphins picking and you'd say no thank you to the best player in the draft. If Eric Berry falls further than the first pick in the draft, then 31 general managers need to be fired. The general manager with the first overall pick needs to be fired for obvious reasons and the other 30 should be fired for not trading up to get him. This is a guy you build a defense around for 10 years.

Drubatuba
12-11-2009, 06:51 PM
lol

PhinsRDbest
12-11-2009, 07:02 PM
All you have to do is look at Darren Sharper's addition to the Saint's defense making them tops in the league. Then look at Troy Polamalu and Bob Sanders injuries which has made the Steeler's and Colt's defense pretty average. Then tell me you don't want an elite safety.

Drubatuba
12-11-2009, 07:34 PM
Its realy funny to see how defensive some of you get on here (no pun intended). To be honest I have no idea who Berry is. Thanks for proving my point.:lol:

houtz
12-11-2009, 08:28 PM
Its realy funny to see how defensive some of you get on here (no pun intended). To be honest I have no idea who Berry is. Thanks for proving my point.:lol:

I recommend staying out of the "draft forum" if you have no idea who Eric Berry is.

Ozfin77
12-11-2009, 08:36 PM
OK, here's another scenario for you...kinda following on from the Madden theme I guess...lol.

Berry is still there at pick 6, Rolando McLain played a "lights out" game in the National Championship and funnily enough is still available aswell....

KC are happy to do a deal with the whole "family connection" we have going there (lol).....

So, who do you take.....Eric or Rolando?

cowboy82nd
12-11-2009, 08:46 PM
I'm gonna go alittle Madden here, if Berry falls to KC I would look at trading with them. They need help at LB,S,RB and WR so here's my proposal.....

R.Brown, C.Crowder, Y.Bell, T.Ginn (or Cam) - KC 1st and flip 3rd's

Then we take Berry!

Now of course I'm counting on signing a real good FA ILB and WR.

Personally I think it's pretty good value KC gets a real good starting RB,S,LB and 2nd/3rd WR filling 4 positions for 1 draft pick.

Like I said Madden but interesting.

What makes anybody think that we could get anything or anybody for Crowder or Ginn?

Ricky_Fan34
12-11-2009, 08:47 PM
I'm gonna go alittle Madden here, if Berry falls to KC I would look at trading with them. They need help at LB,S,RB and WR so here's my proposal.....

R.Brown, C.Crowder, Y.Bell, T.Ginn (or Cam) - KC 1st and flip 3rd's

Then we take Berry!

Now of course I'm counting on signing a real good FA ILB and WR.

Personally I think it's pretty good value KC gets a real good starting RB,S,LB and 2nd/3rd WR filling 4 positions for 1 draft pick.

Like I said Madden but interesting.
So we resign Ronnie... and then trade him? I guess you did say you were going to go "madden" on this one.

hooshoops
12-11-2009, 09:15 PM
I recommend staying out of the "draft forum" if you have no idea who Eric Berry is.

yeah...really :hi5:

hooshoops
12-11-2009, 09:17 PM
OK, here's another scenario for you...kinda following on from the Madden theme I guess...lol.

Berry is still there at pick 6, Rolando McLain played a "lights out" game in the National Championship and funnily enough is still available aswell....

KC are happy to do a deal with the whole "family connection" we have going there (lol).....

So, who do you take.....Eric or Rolando?

eric berry without a 2nd thought...an ed reed type player in our secondary...a once a decade type talent...consider free safety fixed for a long long time

and right after that i'd text gibril wilson with just this..."turn in your playbook"

CJGoCanes
12-11-2009, 10:47 PM
Would be fine with staying where we are and possibly grabbing Earl Thomas. Last week he said he was going to stay at Texas but this week he said he "couldn't pass up 1st round money". A little (little bit) small but he more than makes up for it

FinsFanatic777
12-11-2009, 11:05 PM
Can anyone explain me why Berry's interception total has dropped this season so dramatically (and INT yards as well)? I know he's a stud - I'm not taking anything away from what he did... But shouldn't the addition of Monte Kiffin made him more of a defensive threat and ballhawk? He's the best player not named Suh but can someone explain why his INT are so low this year?

JCane
12-11-2009, 11:12 PM
Can anyone explain me why Berry's interception total has dropped this season so dramatically (and INT yards as well)? I know he's a stud - I'm not taking anything away from what he did... But shouldn't the addition of Monte Kiffin made him more of a defensive threat and ballhawk? He's the best player not named Suh but can someone explain why his INT are so low this year?

Pretty simple explanation here. No one wants to throw in Eric Berry's direction. The interception total isn't the number you're looking for. That's a blinder. You gotta look at times thrown on. It's basically the same thing with Ed Reed. Reed's interception totals are down from past years. Seems like Ed is getting "worse." Fact is, no one wants to throw on Ed Reed.

Can you blame them? These guys change games when the ball is in their hands.

hooshoops
12-12-2009, 12:18 AM
Can anyone explain me why Berry's interception total has dropped this season so dramatically (and INT yards as well)? I know he's a stud - I'm not taking anything away from what he did... But shouldn't the addition of Monte Kiffin made him more of a defensive threat and ballhawk? He's the best player not named Suh but can someone explain why his INT are so low this year?

i think teams decided that after seeing berry 3 yards off his man in coverage when tebow began his throwing motion earlier this year against florida at the sidelines read tebow and burst on the ball for an easy int that they'll look elsewhere for who to go after in the passing game against tennessee...and damn if they shouldn't

that and when i watched tennessee this year berry was playing around the los a ton in run support limiting his chances for ints in coverage

VT Dolphan
12-12-2009, 01:51 AM
I would say no thank to sex before I said no thank you to Eric Berry.

LOL @ No thank you. Eric Berry is sitting there for the Dolphins picking and you'd say no thank you to the best player in the draft. If Eric Berry falls further than the first pick in the draft, then 31 general managers need to be fired. The general manager with the first overall pick needs to be fired for obvious reasons and the other 30 should be fired for not trading up to get him. This is a guy you build a defense around for 10 years.

I think Ndamukong Suh might take offense to that. Berry's great, but Suh is the best player in this draft hands down.

WelcomeBack
12-12-2009, 02:32 AM
Pretty simple explanation here. No one wants to throw in Eric Berry's direction. The interception total isn't the number you're looking for. That's a blinder. You gotta look at times thrown on. It's basically the same thing with Ed Reed. Reed's interception totals are down from past years. Seems like Ed is getting "worse." Fact is, no one wants to throw on Ed Reed.

Can you blame them? These guys change games when the ball is in their hands.

See Nnamdi Asomugha

ChambersWI
12-12-2009, 02:19 PM
I think Ndamukong Suh might take offense to that. Berry's great, but Suh is the best player in this draft hands down.

it's close. Suh is probably the most dominant DT college as seen in awhile. Yeah people say the same about Glenn Dorsey, and he was a stud, but Suh as a DT was top 2 in tackling for his team, and can play in any defense. With teams like Detroit, St. Louis, Seattle, Detroit,Tampa Bay and others needing DTs he's gonna go high.

But Berry IMO is the best secondary prospect since Charles Woodson. Berry is a safety, but he can also play CB too, and his ball skills are great.

JCane
12-12-2009, 02:24 PM
I think Ndamukong Suh might take offense to that. Berry's great, but Suh is the best player in this draft hands down.

He's the difference. Suh IS a great player. There's no doubt. Same for Berry. But Suh only fits in a certain defensive scheme and that's the 3 - 4. He's not made for a 4 - 3. All of these people who want Suh over Cody for our defense can't see that. Suh can work in a 4 - 3 but he's not AS dominate as he is in the 4 - 3. It's just like Ricky Williams isn't AS good in the Wildcat. It's not his style. Ricky is a big bruising physical running back. Now, Eric Berry...that kid changes the opponents offense if he steps on the field for any of the 32 teams...well, I take that back...he probably doesn't help the Raiders much. But that goes without saying.

hooshoops
12-12-2009, 02:37 PM
my man suh can play in any system 3-4 4-3 doesn't matter...any system

berry and suh are the bonafide franchise players in this draft

BobDole
12-12-2009, 03:51 PM
He's the difference. Suh IS a great player. There's no doubt. Same for Berry. But Suh only fits in a certain defensive scheme and that's the 3 - 4. He's not made for a 4 - 3. All of these people who want Suh over Cody for our defense can't see that. Suh can work in a 4 - 3 but he's not AS dominate as he is in the 4 - 3. It's just like Ricky Williams isn't AS good in the Wildcat. It's not his style. Ricky is a big bruising physical running back. Now, Eric Berry...that kid changes the opponents offense if he steps on the field for any of the 32 teams...well, I take that back...he probably doesn't help the Raiders much. But that goes without saying.

you had some 4-3/3-4 dyslexia going on there. i got the point though - and you're right. you don't put a guy like suh in a 3-4 to occupy blockers - most people realize that fact. just b/c he could be an end in a 3-4 doesn't mean that's the place to put him - especially with a top 5 pick. i'd be willing to guarantee he goes to a 4-3 team.

Durden
12-12-2009, 05:24 PM
Can anyone explain me why Berry's interception total has dropped this season so dramatically (and INT yards as well)? I know he's a stud - I'm not taking anything away from what he did... But shouldn't the addition of Monte Kiffin made him more of a defensive threat and ballhawk? He's the best player not named Suh but can someone explain why his INT are so low this year?
It's because Kiffin is having him play like an additional linebacker most of the time. Somewhat like Adrian Wilson for the Cardinals.

PhinsRDbest
12-12-2009, 06:34 PM
I think Suh would be a dominant nose. Remember Parcells and Co. like to play the 3-4 with a smaller Nose(Ferguson and Ratliff) and Suh is such a great prospect. This is what draftnik Simon Clancy AKA Boomer had to say in his blog post for the Sun Sentinel last year:

What his declaration would have meant for Miami is that he looks to me like a perfect 3-4 NT. Why? Because of his strength, because of his base and because of the way he soaks up blockers with ease, then turns them lose with remarkable quickness and hands to make plays. And he's no one trick pony; he can collapse a pocket, he can blow up run plays and he brings a relentless nature out on the perimeter and down the field. What you notice immediately about Suh is the get off; the ability at the snap to get out of his stance and into the lineman quicker than his opponent. He plays with body lean; his knees are bent, his bubble (backside) is in good position and he's not narrow with his base. No way that you're going to rock anyone back with technique like that. And coupled with a strong base is genuine brute strength, Down after down in three separate games he was almost always doubled with two linemen from the start of the play to it's conclusion, chipped by the C helping out the RG or chipped by a combination of the back or the tight end. What I love about him is that hes athletic enough to collapse a pocket, stout enough to hold up at the point and walk two men back into the run lane and he possesses a great array of moves, a swim, a rip and most notably the push pull for which he excels at. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that Suh, despite being an underclassmen, would have been one of the most highly rated players on our board. Unfortunately, if he continues his upswing, I see no way that he gets out of the top 10 next year. Rest assured, this kid would have been front and centre for us at pick 25.

JCane
12-12-2009, 07:09 PM
you had some 4-3/3-4 dyslexia going on there. i got the point though - and you're right. you don't put a guy like suh in a 3-4 to occupy blockers - most people realize that fact. just b/c he could be an end in a 3-4 doesn't mean that's the place to put him - especially with a top 5 pick. i'd be willing to guarantee he goes to a 4-3 team.

Yeap. Just caught that lol. Good job.

COphinphan89
12-12-2009, 08:20 PM
Even though it's highly unlikely, if we somehow ended up with Berry, I might cry. Guy reminds me of Sean Taylor.

SRM
12-27-2009, 03:28 AM
Even though it's highly unlikely, if we somehow ended up with Berry, I might cry. Guy reminds me of Sean Taylor.

Sean Taylor was/is my favorite player of all time.. he gave me an eerie feeling of a dominant, fierce presence when I saw him play. Berry is the only other player to make me get that feeling again. He is going to be something special. Man, if we could get him.. that would be just amazing.

Berry at FS, Clemons at SS, Smith and Davis at CB.

Kdawg954
12-27-2009, 08:01 AM
Suh in the 3-4 would be like Dorsey in the 3-4 from a few year ago . . . he can do it . . . but he best fits in the 4-3 as a penetrating DT . . . I remember a few years ago when Vonnie Holiday played DT in the 4-3 next to Tractor . . . . Vonnie had like 8 to 10 sacks . . . thats will be Suh.

Honestly, Suh is the #1 prospect in this draft . . . I just have not seen a player as dominate as him on the line in a long long time . . . . but Berry is #2. If either one of these players are still available after the first 3 picks . . . Miami would be crazy not to get on the phone.