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lbmclean_sj
12-21-2009, 04:00 PM
I think we should

how does this draft look for RB talent?

ckparrothead
12-21-2009, 04:20 PM
Depends on what we do with Ronnie, of course.

SF Dolphin Fan
12-21-2009, 04:26 PM
CJ Spiller of Clemson is the best one, lightning quick, great field vision, a threat to score every time he touches the ball. Also an excellent kick returner. Miami would have to draft him in the first and he could be off the board before the team picks. Jahvid Best of Cal is pretty close, another guy who can score every time he touches the ball. I think he'll go near the end of round 1. Either one of these guys would be a terror in the wildcat. Best has been compared to Chris Johnson. Stanford's Toby Gerhart is probably a 2nd round pick. He is a power runner who will get the tough yards. Not sure about his receiving skills. Those are the guys I've seen the most of. Noel Devine is another player I'm starting to hear about more and more. I've only seen youtube footage, but he looks quick and shifty. I really think the team needs to add an explosive back pretty early.

j-off-her-doll
12-21-2009, 04:49 PM
Jonathan Dwyer reminds me of a more explosive Ronnie Brown. He'll go in the 1st or very early 2nd, though. So, I wouldn't get too excited at the prospect of us drafting him.

hooshoops
12-21-2009, 04:51 PM
i would definitely not write off taking a rb in the first 4 rounds...but i probably wouldn't look at the position til the 3rd or 4th round

lbmclean_sj
12-21-2009, 05:14 PM
Depends on what we do with Ronnie, of course.

I like Ronnie but is a part-time RB our future?

ArmyFin7
12-21-2009, 05:26 PM
I think it depends on what kind of offense we plan top run next yr....the team that ran ran ran and ran some more, or the team that has been throwing the ball 40+ times a game lately....

If we're going to be a power running team, its time to get a real hard nosed pounder like Gerhart. If we plan to throw it around alot, we need to add a real speedy RB that has recieving skills.

ckparrothead
12-21-2009, 05:39 PM
I think that RB is a possibility because of the Ronnie Brown situation, we'll know by draft day whether or not a RB is in the mix.

Spiller won't be available when we pick, he's the best offensive player in the draft.

I love Anthony Dixon, he might be my second best RB in the draft depending on the goings on from here on out, All Star games and who comes out, Combine, etc. Dixon has much better speed than people think when they watch him and see him as a North-South runner with tremendous power. He a lot of lower body explosion.

Keiland Williams and Harvey Unga might be decent sleepers.

hooshoops
12-21-2009, 05:41 PM
yeah...if you're looking for a power runner dixon is your guy

lbmclean_sj
12-21-2009, 06:05 PM
if we go into 2010 with Brown and Williams as our RB's that will be pure folly or bad luck

most years you can get a nice back in the 4th, I hope 2010 is like that

ckparrothead
12-21-2009, 06:20 PM
I'm just looking for a talented runner, and so Dixon is my guy.

TedSlimmJr
12-21-2009, 10:43 PM
yeah...if you're looking for a power runner dixon is your guy

Or Jonathan Dwyer...

I realize you don't like Dwyer (no idea why)...unless you just have trouble getting a bead on him due to Paul Johnson's offense...which is understandable...

But he's as talented a runner as there is in college football when you get right down to it...

His most impressive statistic to me isn't his career 6.3 YPC average (although that's pretty damn impressive)....

To me it's the fact that he's never fumbled in his career....503 carries without one...

I like the Ronnie Brown comparison someone mentioned.....although I don't think he's quite in Ronnie's category as a pass catcher...

JCane
12-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Nope. The NFL is changing. It's all about big plays and home runs. The spread offense is coming, etc. You need a big arm QB and some deep threats. The running game has transitioned into situational running. You still need to be able to run the ball but you need to be able to run the ball in situations such as short yardage and goal line.

You look at the Colts, Saints, Steelers, Eagles, etc., these are big play offenses that can strike quick without running the football. We need this. It's gonna become more and more tough to run the football and eat the clock only to kick field goals. It's nice to have your philosophy of football but when the league changes you have to change with it.

hooshoops
12-21-2009, 10:52 PM
it's simple for me i don't like projecting the player from that offense to the nfl...

i have reservations about demarious thomas at wr also in that offense

hooshoops
12-21-2009, 10:55 PM
off topic...but jason campbells career is being ruined in dc...that poor kids getting killed

TedSlimmJr
12-21-2009, 11:03 PM
off topic...but jason campbells career is being ruined in dc...that poor kids getting killed

Absolutely....I think they may have to go ahead and reach on a left tackle with their 1st round pick...

Whoever that #76 is they have playing LT is woefully slow out of his stance....bad feet....bends at the waist...doesn't sit and punch...etc...eesh...

The line can't pick up blitzes....it's bad..

And I've always been high on Jason Campbell....I still think he can be a very nice quarterback for a team that will protect him...

hooshoops
12-21-2009, 11:05 PM
Or Jonathan Dwyer...

I realize you don't like Dwyer (no idea why)...unless you just have trouble getting a bead on him due to Paul Johnson's offense...which is understandable...

But he's as talented a runner as there is in college football when you get right down to it...

His most impressive statistic to me isn't his career 6.3 YPC average (although that's pretty damn impressive)....

To me it's the fact that he's never fumbled in his career....503 carries without one...

I like the Ronnie Brown comparison someone mentioned.....although I don't think he's quite in Ronnie's category as a pass catcher...

slimm while that 6.1 is very impressive qb josh nesbitt averages 3.8 per rush and has 18 rushing tds

i just worry about a product of the system but yeah i agree dwyer is a power back

i'd just look elsewhere

on the campbell thing i think he's now always gonna have happy feet with the beating he's taken in dc...this looks like david carr all over again type never get over it beating

TedSlimmJr
12-21-2009, 11:13 PM
slimm while that 6.1 is very impressive josh nesbitt averages 3.8 per rush and has 18 rushing tds

i just worry about a product of the system but yeah i agree dwyer is a power back

i'd just look elsewhere


Nesbit has the option of pitching it or keeping it when he runs......Dwyer doesn't....

I watched Tommy Frazier run the triple option offense better than anyone I've ever seen in college football....knowing that he would likely never play a single down at quarterback in the NFL...

Tomlinson also played in a similar offense at TCU.....Dwyer makes his living running inside....he's not a product of the system the way a lot of these backs that are schemed to get the ball in space are...

I think he's going to be a productive player in the NFL..

hooshoops
12-21-2009, 11:17 PM
if dwyers a projected 2nd rounder i take dixon or matthews over him without hesitation

i'm not interested in toby gerhardt either

Lord Of Miami
12-22-2009, 12:10 AM
Lex wouldn't have made the team this year if they had plans on drafting a RB high this coming draft.

Also Ronnie Brown has said over and over on his radio show he plans to play in Miami for many years to come.

So RB isn't a need tell next year, and even then who knows........

I do know spending a 3rd or 4th round draft pick on a RB that's going to be your teams 3rd or 4th RB Isn't very smart when Chad's trying to play catch with a guy like Ted.

ckparrothead
12-22-2009, 01:01 AM
Or Jonathan Dwyer...

I realize you don't like Dwyer (no idea why)...unless you just have trouble getting a bead on him due to Paul Johnson's offense...which is understandable...

But he's as talented a runner as there is in college football when you get right down to it...

His most impressive statistic to me isn't his career 6.3 YPC average (although that's pretty damn impressive)....

To me it's the fact that he's never fumbled in his career....503 carries without one...

I like the Ronnie Brown comparison someone mentioned.....although I don't think he's quite in Ronnie's category as a pass catcher...

I never said I don't like Dwyer. You're confusing me for someone else.

Dwyer and Dixon are neck and neck for #2 RB status in this draft. Dwyer has not declared yet. Dixon is a senior. Hence I still get to talk about Dixon as the #2 back in the draft until we see which juniors are coming out.

Ryan Matthews either has declared or he's about to. He's up there with those two.

Evan Royster will declare, I'm hearing.

TedSlimmJr
12-22-2009, 01:11 AM
I never said I don't like Dwyer. You're confusing me for someone else.

Dwyer and Dixon are neck and neck for #2 RB status in this draft. Dwyer has not declared yet. Dixon is a senior. Hence I still get to talk about Dixon as the #2 back in the draft until we see which juniors are coming out.

Ryan Matthews either has declared or he's about to. He's up there with those two.

Evan Royster will declare, I'm hearing.


Mathews declared...I received that text from Joe Shad...

I was talking to hoops in reguards to Dwyer not you....which is why I quoted him...thus the discussion on Dwyer...

ckparrothead
12-22-2009, 01:22 AM
Mathews declared...I received that text from Joe Shad...

I was talking to hoops in reguards to Dwyer not you....which is why I quoted him...thus the discussion on Dwyer...

Oh my bad, his quote looked like my quote, which was on purpose since my quote was a response to his. I didn't look at the name.

j-off-her-doll
12-22-2009, 01:34 AM
Lex wouldn't have made the team this year if they had plans on drafting a RB high this coming draft.

Also Ronnie Brown has said over and over on his radio show he plans to play in Miami for many years to come.

So RB isn't a need tell next year, and even then who knows........

I do know spending a 3rd or 4th round draft pick on a RB that's going to be your teams 3rd or 4th RB Isn't very smart when Chad's trying to play catch with a guy like Ted.

Lex Hilliard is will only ever be a situational RB. He's too slow to be a productive every-down back.

WelcomeBack
12-22-2009, 02:52 AM
I definitely like Keiland Williams as a sleeper. If we're not looking Dixon or Dwyer...Williams a bit later is my guy.

Lord Of Miami
12-22-2009, 03:10 AM
Lex Hilliard is will only ever be a situational RB. He's too slow to be a productive every-down back.

I didn't even think he'd make the team..............

My point is they would not have kept him as our 4th RB this year "O and this FO just about never keeps 4 RB's" if they were planning on just cutting him,we have not just one, but TWO Pro Bowl running backs coming back next year, so it' doesn't make any sense to draft one high.

The FO was more unsure of the RB's when they 1st took over, both Ricky and Ronnie were coming back from being hurt and all they used then was two 6th round picks..............................So what does that tell you all, Should be very clear! lol

greasyObnoxious
01-04-2010, 08:14 PM
I'm just looking for a talented runner, and so Dixon is my guy.

speaking of talented runners, did you have the time to look at Joique Bell? is he just the big fish in a small pond or a really a viable option at RB?