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PhinsPhan122
12-27-2009, 06:04 PM
I think our draft choice is down to around 4 or 5 players, depending on who is available where we draft.

WR: Dez Bryant, Arrelious Benn, Golden Tate, Brandon Lafell,
ILB: Brandon Spikes, Rolando McClain
TE: Jermaine Gresham

PLEASE GET SOME HELP!

MP-Omnis
12-27-2009, 06:24 PM
Next year's WRs are too good. We can draft one then and bring in Antonio Bryant in the mean time.

We need to draft Linebackers like a mother****er.

houtz
12-27-2009, 06:26 PM
If Dez is there in the first tho it'd be really hard to pass him up. With this loss I think we have a better chance of getting McClain then we did if we would've won out. I'm hoping.

Ricky4Life
12-27-2009, 06:31 PM
Sign Karlos Dansby, and draft best available OLB. Or draft McClain and release Channing. WR will be addressed through FA and later in draft.

PhinsPhan122
12-27-2009, 06:31 PM
Yeah I think McClain would be the best pick but he probably will go in the 8-14 range, unfortunately I think we will be just beyond that.

Ozfin77
12-27-2009, 06:35 PM
I dont like to say this, but Rolando McLain will be gone long before we have our first selection.

That is, of course, unless somebody gets a bright idea to made a deal and move up to get him!

I think DT is another need the trio will be looking at and if Cody or Williams are still there, they'll come into consideration as well.

houtz
12-27-2009, 06:38 PM
If we're picking between 10-14 both DTs will probably be there.

AquaAdrenaline
12-27-2009, 06:44 PM
Well I doubt Byrant or Tate would still be availble in the middle of the first round. There are some good receievers out there on the free agent market like Brandon Marshall, Vincent Jackson or Antonio Bryant. To a lesser extent, there's the option of trying to get Miles Austin because it was Parcells who signed him to a contract in Dallas in the first place but I doubt it will happen. Those are three very good names which are a lot better than Davone Bess (if he's back), Greg Camerillo, Ted Ginn or Brian Hartline who are all "just guys." Add to that some TE's who are available...but will probably be too expensive like Owen Daniels or Tony Scheffler.

If they sign a big time WR, then the focus then turns to ILB. You have Spikes and McClain there. I think both could be gone by the time the Dolphins pick, but there's a possibility they could get one of the two. Spikes needs to check his ego at the door if he comes though...there's no way his voice should/will be louder than Taylor/Porter's.

We all know Parcells loves building his team around the pass rush. But Jason Ferguson isn't getting younger and if you're going to be move up anyway, why not go for the jugular and get the best pass rushers available and we all know who that is. Look, if the Dolphins can land a Suh or McClain, they should do it...no if ands or buts. The oppurtunity will be there and if they have already signed a receiver, they might as well go for a pass rusher. There's plenty of linebackers later in the draft but how many of them would fit right in and help the team improve next year?

miami71
12-27-2009, 06:52 PM
McClain! Trade up and get him! Please!

Ozfin77
12-27-2009, 07:23 PM
McClain! Trade up and get him! Please!

I hear ya brother!!!!....lol!!

1Hawdolfin4L
12-27-2009, 07:41 PM
Trade down.

SR 7
12-27-2009, 07:44 PM
If Dez is there in the first tho it'd be really hard to pass him up. With this loss I think we have a better chance of getting McClain then we did if we would've won out. I'm hoping.

Me too. Im on the McClain bandwagon and if we lose next week which is a strong possibility then we should pick around 11-14 and the chance of trading up 3 spots or so for McClain wouldn't be a bad idea at all.

VT Dolphan
12-27-2009, 07:46 PM
If we're picking between 10-14 both DTs will probably be there.

Who are you referring to? Suh and Dan Williams?

Suh should be the first guy off the board, and should not slip out of the top 3 at worst. Williams should be still be there unless he blows up at the combine.

SR 7
12-27-2009, 07:46 PM
I dont like to say this, but Rolando McLain will be gone long before we have our first selection.

That is, of course, unless somebody gets a bright idea to made a deal and move up to get him!

I think DT is another need the trio will be looking at and if Cody or Williams are still there, they'll come into consideration as well.

110% we don't get Cody.
and as far as NT they have a history of getting em' in the later rounds so not sure if we wil spend a 1st or 2nd on em as DT have a very high bust rate in round 1. VERY high. Their job is to eat up blockers, u can find one in the later rounds to do that have u are good at evaluating talent.

j-off-her-doll
12-27-2009, 09:13 PM
If D. Bryant is there, you draft him - unless E. Berry is somehow still available. Bryant is a star WR. I see McClain as a very good ILB in the NFL - not a star, though.

This is how I see our big board:

E. Berry
D. Bryant
R. McClain

Then, it gets very fuzzy.

hooshoops
12-27-2009, 09:22 PM
If D. Bryant is there, you draft him - unless E. Berry is somehow still available. Bryant is a star WR. I see McClain as a very good ILB in the NFL - not a star, though.

This is how I see our big board:

E. Berry
D. Bryant
R. McClain

Then, it gets very fuzzy.

spot on

hooshoops
12-27-2009, 09:25 PM
watching chris clemons his change of direction in the open field is scary bad...today was the second time this season i've seen him have an angle on a wr in the open field and not get anywhere near the guy when he put his foot in the ground and made a cut...clemons almost fell down

that's bad for a free safety

DaytonaDolFan13
12-27-2009, 09:31 PM
With our loss today we have fallen into the 11ish range on the draft board. Lets face it we didnt have a contender this season-with all the injuries and rookies starting but we learned alot along the way and yeah beating the steelers would be great, but I'm basing this on the notion that we are defeated (although I think we'll win).
#11 Rolando McClain ILB Alabama
#43 Arrelious Benn WR Illinois
#75 Toby Gerhart RB Stanford
#107 Myron Rolle FS FSU

j-off-her-doll
12-27-2009, 09:34 PM
watching chris clemons his change of direction in the open field is scary bad...today was the second time this season i've seen him have an angle on a wr in the open field and not get anywhere near the guy when he put his foot in the ground and made a cut...clemons almost fell down

that's bad for a free safety

Who knows? If we're drafting around in the 11 to 13 range, we might be able to draft Earl Thomas in the 2nd (if he comes out). I know that he said he'd only come out for 1st RD money, but things change.

At any rate, we're a few players (and an OC and DC) away from being a very strong team.

hooshoops
12-27-2009, 09:35 PM
if it's pick #11 or whatever and we come up and eric berry dez bryant and mcclain are all there we're stupid to pass up the bpa in order:

1. berry free safety is fixed for the next decade
2. bryant #1 wr fixed
3. mcclain ilb fixed with a player with great instincts and intelligence

hooshoops
12-27-2009, 09:37 PM
Who knows? If we're drafting around in the 11 to 13 range, we might be able to draft Earl Thomas in the 2nd (if he comes out). I know that he said he'd only come out for 1st RD money, but things change.

At any rate, we're a few players (and an OC and DC) away from being a very strong team.

and that would be great as well...but you don't pass up eric berry hoping that something is sitting there in the early 2nd...

this kid is nasty good

just like you don't pass up dez bryant and take a wr who you like but doesn't have the same grade later...and imo it's dez bryant and then everybody else

we should go bpa at positions of need with a pick that high

jlfin
12-27-2009, 09:52 PM
Sign Karlos Dansby, and draft best available OLB. Or draft McClain and release Channing. WR will be addressed through FA and later in draft.

Why release Crowder. He's a quality player. What does drafting McClain have to do with Crowder's status? You don't just release quality players, that is shortsighted. Crowder is a complementary player, not a star. But, I think he would play well alongside a potential star player like McClan.
Why not have both?
If anything, Ayodele should be shopped or relegated to quality backup.

hooshoops
12-27-2009, 09:56 PM
i don't think that channing crowder is quality anything...he's never shown me anything but no question we need an influx of youth and speed at ilb...

if ayodele left it wouldn't bother me

j-off-her-doll
12-27-2009, 11:07 PM
and that would be great as well...but you don't pass up eric berry hoping that something is sitting there in the early 2nd...

this kid is nasty good

just like you don't pass up dez bryant and take a wr who you like but doesn't have the same grade later...and imo it's dez bryant and then everybody else

we should go bpa at positions of need with a pick that high

No, I agree. I was speaking on the basis that Berry won't be there (which, he probably won't). I would take the best player available at the positions: WR, FS, ILB, and SSOLB. Really, for me, it's Berry, Bryant, and then everyone else. McClain would be the consolation prize.

Ricky4Life
12-27-2009, 11:20 PM
Why release Crowder. He's a quality player. What does drafting McClain have to do with Crowder's status? You don't just release quality players, that is shortsighted. Crowder is a complementary player, not a star. But, I think he would play well alongside a potential star player like McClan.
Why not have both?
If anything, Ayodele should be shopped or relegated to quality backup.

Because as I stated I would like Dansby to be signed. I would prefer a star LBer at the position the rookie then a guy who is suppose to "complement" the rookie. If Crowder stays hope its on the bench.

hooshoops
12-27-2009, 11:33 PM
No, I agree. I was speaking on the basis that Berry won't be there (which, he probably won't). I would take the best player available at the positions: WR, FS, ILB, and SSOLB. Really, for me, it's Berry, Bryant, and then everyone else. McClain would be the consolation prize.

i agree...but wes bunting of nationalfootballpost.com from a scouts view didn't have bryant or berry in his top 10 mock draft right now...he had mcclain #4 overall however

i had pegged mcclain to the broncos with the first rounder they acquired from chicago but i'm hearing rumors they are looking nt and dline with that pick...source profootballweekly.com

FinsFanatic777
12-28-2009, 01:16 AM
Do NOT pick Dez Bryant. The WR class the following year is MUCH better. Let our young receivers have a chance to develop.

Pick Rolando McClain. If he's not there, then pick Earl Thomas. If he's not there, then pick the best NT available. We need youth in our defense, not offense.

I think Jermaine Gresham would be a steal in the 2nd round, but if we take Bryant and Gresham, we're taking two players that haven't played in basically a full season. I'd rather take a stud defensive player in the first, and take Gresham in the second. That way, we can give our receivers time to develop, while taking in a top-notch TE.

1. Rolando McClain
2. Earl Thomas
3. Dan Williams/Terrence Cody
4. Jerry Hughes
5. Brandon Spikes
6. Dez Bryant
7. Jermaine Gresham

Of course, this is assuming Berry, Suh, McCoy are all gone.

Ronnieisabeast
12-28-2009, 03:49 AM
It seems like most of you really are focused on WR or ILB as the position to draft. Now I agree they are both extremely big needs for us at this moment, but dont forget about OLB. Taylor and Porter really getting up there in age, and dont bring much pressure anymore. Now Wake appears to be a pretty good pass rusher, but one isnt gonna get it done. Also we have no one to set the edge (Roth was very good at this). Jerry Hughes and Brandon Graham both appear to be playmakers at OLB. I think either player we should be consider aking. Just something to consider.

ZachThomas76
12-28-2009, 04:00 AM
Do NOT pick Dez Bryant. The WR class the following year is MUCH better. Let our young receivers have a chance to develop.

Pick Rolando McClain. If he's not there, then pick Earl Thomas. If he's not there, then pick the best NT available. We need youth in our defense, not offense.

I think Jermaine Gresham would be a steal in the 2nd round, but if we take Bryant and Gresham, we're taking two players that haven't played in basically a full season. I'd rather take a stud defensive player in the first, and take Gresham in the second. That way, we can give our receivers time to develop, while taking in a top-notch TE.

1. Rolando McClain
2. Earl Thomas
3. Dan Williams/Terrence Cody
4. Jerry Hughes
5. Brandon Spikes
6. Dez Bryant
7. Jermaine Gresham

Of course, this is assuming Berry, Suh, McCoy are all gone.

give our wr's time to develop? come on now, you cant be serious. develop into what? the only wr with speed is a vagina, and then 3 possession guys. if they plan to target a wr in fa, then fine, address another need in the draft. whats wrong with taking a Dez Bryant and signing a guy, having some wr's opponents have to actually gameplan for.

greasyObnoxious
12-28-2009, 06:57 AM
i wouldn't narrow our choices down to certain positions. picking in the top 15, we have to take advantage of our draft position IMO. i wouldn't be upset at all if we brought in C.J. Spiller or Earl Thomas, to name a few guys.

phreak
12-28-2009, 07:51 AM
there is NO way we draft a wr in the first... parcells drafting a reciever in the first is laughable at best... and rb could be a need depending on ronnie's contract, but no rb in the first either, it just won't happen... parcells is going to grab the best lb or d-lineman (to convert to lb), best nt or monster de (to convert to nt), or a stud fs... our first pick is going to the defense... the first three could go to the d for that matter... it is this team's most glaring flaw and it is going to get fixed or completely fall apart, depending on the output of our draft picks... parcells has a GIGANTIC ego, and he wants to get the satisfaction of being called a genious... if he can get this team to the AFC championship in year three he will have ESPN & NFLN on his nuts for life... that is the ultimate goal of this franchise, wheather we like it or not... parcells could care less if the team falls apart after he leaves, so long as he gets credit for its success now

TedSlimmJr
12-28-2009, 08:24 AM
there is NO way we draft a wr in the first... parcells drafting a reciever in the first is laughable at best... and rb could be a need depending on ronnie's contract, but no rb in the first either, it just won't happen... parcells is going to grab the best lb or d-lineman (to convert to lb), best nt or monster de (to convert to nt), or a stud fs... our first pick is going to the defense... the first three could go to the d for that matter... it is this team's most glaring flaw and it is going to get fixed or completely fall apart, depending on the output of our draft picks... parcells has a GIGANTIC ego, and he wants to get the satisfaction of being called a genious... if he can get this team to the AFC championship in year three he will have ESPN & NFLN on his nuts for life... that is the ultimate goal of this franchise, wheather we like it or not... parcells could care less if the team falls apart after he leaves, so long as he gets credit for its success now

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