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DKphin
12-29-2009, 08:28 PM
I know we have a lot of needs this offseason, but to rely on Sean Smith another season is going to make me go crazy. This post isn't about his ability to cover, but about his ability to tackle. The only CB that has been able to get away with not being able to tackle is Deion Sanders. Last time I checked SS is no Deion. Smith is the most pathetic excuse for a football player, in regards to tackling, I have seen in a long time. He is almost saying, with his body language, that if I hold on to the guy maybe someone else can come bring him down. I was very high on him when we drafted him, but to say I am disappointed would be a big understatement. His lack, no absence, of physicality is really getting on my nerves.

Here is a list of FA CBs(thanks goes to gmoney41)

Cornerbacks
Carlos Rogers, Washington Redskins (29)
Tramon Williams, Green Bay Packers (27) – Restricted FA
Dunta Robinson, Houston Texans (28)
Richard Marshall, Carolina Panthers (25)
Leigh Bodden, New England Patriots (28)
Alan Ball, Dallas Cowboys (25) – Restricted FA
Dre’ Bly, San Francisco 49ers (33)
Ralph Brown, Arizona Cardinals (31)
Brent Grimes, Atlanta Falcons (27) – Restricted FA
Nick Harper, Tennessee Titans (35)
Walt Harris, San Francisco 49ers (36)
Anthony Henry, Detroit Lions (33)
Ellis Hobbs, Philadelphia Eagles (27)
Roderick Hood, Cleveland Browns (28)
Marlin Jackson, Indianapolis Colts (27)
Tim Jennings, Indianapolis Colts (27)
Ken Lucas, Seattle Seahawks (31)
Karl Paymah, Minnesota Vikings (27)
Stanford Routt, Oakland Raiders (27)
Deshea Townsend, Pittsburgh Steelers (34)
Fabian Washington, Baltimore Ravens (27)
Usama Young, New Orleans Saints (25) – Restricted FA Here is who to look at in the draft:

1. Patrick Robinson (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Patrick-Robinson.php) Florida State 5-11 194 4.40 2. Perrish Cox (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Perrish-Cox.php) Oklahoma State 6-0 198 4.45 3. Kyle Wilson (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Kyle-Wilson.php) Boise State 5-10 186 4.40 4. Brandon Ghee (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Brandon-Ghee.php) Wake Forest 6-0 190 4.45 5. Jerome Murphy (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Jerome-Murphy.php) South Florida 6-1 185 4.50 6. Javier Arenas (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Javier-Arenas.php) Alabama 5-9 198 4.60 7. Trevard Lindley (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Trevard-Lindley.php) Kentucky 6-0 179 4.55 8. Myron Lewis (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Myron-Lewis.php) Vanderbilt 6-2 205 4.50 9. Devin McCourty (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Devin-McCourty.php) Rutgers 5-11 190 4.50 10. Syd’Quan Thompson (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/SydQuan-Thompson.php) California 5-9 191 4.50 11. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Akwasi-Owusu-Ansah.php) Indiana (PA) 6-1 205 4.50 12. Alterraun Verner (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Alterraun-Verner.php) UCLA 5-11 180 4.55 13. Walter Thurmond III (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Walter-Thurmond.php) Oregon 6-0 180 4.55 14. Walter McFadden (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Walter-McFadden.php) Auburn 6-0 175 4.40 15. Devin Ross (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Devin-Ross.php) Arizona 5-11 175 4.45 16. Nolan Carroll (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Nolan-Carroll.php) Maryland 6-1 202 4.45 17. Chris Cook (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Chris-Cook.php) Virginia 6-2 210 4.55 18. Jamar Wall (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Jamar-Wall.php) Texas Tech 5-10 203 4.50 19. Chris Hawkins (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Chris-Hawkins.php) Louisiana State 6-1 182 4.50 20. Prince Miller (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Prince-Miller.php) Georgia 5-8 198 4.55 21. Sam Shields (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Sam-Shields.php) Miami (FL) 6-0 190 4.45 22. Jorrick Calvin (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Jorrick-Calvin.php) Troy 5-11 184 4.50 23. Crezdon Butler (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Crezdon-Butler.php) Clemson 6-0 185 4.50 24. Stephan Virgil (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Stephan-Virgil.php) Virginia Tech 5-11 189 4.50 25. A.J. Jefferson (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/AJ-Jefferson.php) Fresno State 6-0 190 4.45 26. Brian Jackson (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Brian-Jackson.php) Oklahoma 6-1 200 4.55 27. David Pender (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/David-Pender.php) Purdue 6-1 175 4.50 28. Chris Chancellor (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Chris-Chancellor.php) Clemson 5-10 170 4.50 29. Marquis Johnson (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Marquis-Johnson.php) Alabama 5-11 192 4.65 30. A.J. Wallace (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/AJ-Wallace.php) Penn State 6-1 195 4.45 31. Aaron Berry (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Aaron-Berry.php) Pittsburgh 5-11 180 4.50 32. Rafael Priest (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Rafael-Priest.php) Texas Christian 5-10 181 4.50 33. Traye Simmons (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Traye-Simmons.php) Minnesota 5-11 179 4.55 34. Patrick Stoudamire (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Patrick-Stoudamire.php) Western Illinois 5-11 200 4.50http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/CB.php

Phin19
12-30-2009, 02:05 AM
mmm, no... we have much more pressing needs like LB, WR or FS
Sean Smith will be fine, he's played good for a rookie, of course he needs to improve in some areas but what rookie doesn't.
Picking a CB after having used two high picks last year in this position would be a waste. maybe a late rounder but defenitely not a high pick. A FA veteran would be ok but only if he comes cheap.

DeFINSeWins
12-30-2009, 02:11 AM
Get a veteran CB. Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Will Allen, and _____ would make a great secondary.

Clipse
12-30-2009, 02:20 AM
:lol:

greasyObnoxious
12-30-2009, 08:28 AM
Get a veteran CB. Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Will Allen, and _____ would make a great secondary.

just re-sign Nate Jones. we could do a lot worse than him.

emeraldfin
12-30-2009, 08:37 AM
I'm all for getting a veteren CB, as we missed not having a vet when Allen went down. But dont like the idea of drafting one.

dr.jake
12-30-2009, 10:58 AM
love watching perrish cox play.he impacts every game i've watched .if he fell to us in the 2nd he'd be hard to pass up even though cb isn't a pressing need.bpa. some people said we didn't need lbs after signing porter ,so we pass on willis and poz so fins end up with ginn and beck. still hurts to type it!
if we landed perrish it's goodbye ginger for whatever the market will bear. mcclain 1st- cox 2nd.grab some dl beef,an OLB and a guard-center hybrid and i'd be happy

RealDriscoll
12-30-2009, 11:13 AM
Are you serious? You want to give up on Sean Smith? I thought I have seen it all but I was wrong...Come on Man! Smith played well for a rookie and is going to develop into a very good player. The dude was a rookie for crying out loud; Imagine you wanted to start you're own business, a fast food joint called "DK's Dairy Farm" and right downt he road is a McDonalds. In your first year how successful would you be? Sean Smith was matched up with some good receivers all season and he got beat his fair share of times but there were also games when he held Reggie Wayne to 3 catches for 37 yards. Cornerback with Vontae Davis, Will Allen, and Sean Smith is the LEAST of our worries right now.

Dolphin Dave
12-30-2009, 11:18 AM
Get more consistant pressure on the QB = taking pressure off your CB's.

Get a couple of decent young OLB's & an ILB to replace Akin and you will see a world of improvement in your CB stats.

houtz
12-30-2009, 12:03 PM
Where the **** do these guys come from?

Oraclepz
12-30-2009, 02:58 PM
Sean Smith played great for a rookie... look at last week after andre johnsons TD sean did a very admiral job on him... not to mention it was nate jones who gave up the TD not Sean

Ricky_Fan34
12-30-2009, 03:16 PM
I think Smith will be a great player, but he was mediocre at best this season. Whenever a deep ball was thrown his was, he kept running completely unaware of where the ball was. His tackling sucks too, but he can work on that during the offseason.

Cornerback is one of the toughest positions to learn, and the rules don't help them either. Both Smith and Davis will continue to get better. I think our starting 2 next year will be either: Vontae Davis and Will Allen or Vontae Davis and Sean Smith. I think Vontae is pretty much a lock, but that second spot will be up for grabs.

jlfin
01-01-2010, 12:25 AM
I'm all for getting a veteren CB, as we missed not having a vet when Allen went down. But dont like the idea of drafting one.

Davis and Smith are officially veteran CB's now. The safety position is the one that needs upgrading

Ricky4Life
01-01-2010, 03:26 AM
It would help if the quarterback didn't have a whole minute to throw the ball because we have no pass rush at all.

mmikel30
01-01-2010, 12:22 PM
Are you serious? You want to give up on Sean Smith? I thought I have seen it all but I was wrong...Come on Man! Smith played well for a rookie and is going to develop into a very good player. The dude was a rookie for crying out loud; Imagine you wanted to start you're own business, a fast food joint called "DK's Dairy Farm" and right downt he road is a McDonalds. In your first year how successful would you be? Sean Smith was matched up with some good receivers all season and he got beat his fair share of times but there were also games when he held Reggie Wayne to 3 catches for 37 yards. Cornerback with Vontae Davis, Will Allen, and Sean Smith is the LEAST of our worries right now.I understand what the guy is saying. That Sean Smith dosen't tackle ! that was the knock on smith coming out of college. how can you want to play on defense and not want to tackle ? it's legit criticism.

nate52
01-01-2010, 12:36 PM
I'd be up for drafting a big time CB or bring in a vetern and then moving Smith to FS. You can never have to many good CBs.

X-Pacolypse
01-01-2010, 12:44 PM
No.

hooshoops
01-01-2010, 12:52 PM
sean smiths tackling is atrocious...there's no denying it

i'd like to see us take a physical corner prospect late if there's one there

hooshoops
01-01-2010, 12:54 PM
I'd be up for drafting a big time CB or bring in a vetern and then moving Smith to FS. You can never have to many good CBs.

you think sean smith tackles bad now...move him to free safety and ask him to be the last line of defense and support the run and see just how damn bad his tackling is

imo he's a corner or nothing...no way can he play safety and tackle like that

3rdandinches
01-01-2010, 05:56 PM
Another post about giving up on one of our young players, awesome!!!

Why people expect every drafted player to be good or great at everything in their first year is amazing, truely amazing. Afterall CB is such an easy position to play he should be better!!!

We`re better then fine at CB we`re loaded with S.Smith, V.Davis, N.Jones and W.Allen. Let`s concentrate on OLB, ILB, NT and most important FS and watch S.Smith become a great cover corner.

MiamiDolfan85
01-01-2010, 06:07 PM
I know we have a lot of needs this offseason, but to rely on Sean Smith another season is going to make me go crazy. This post isn't about his ability to cover, but about his ability to tackle. The only CB that has been able to get away with not being able to tackle is Deion Sanders. Last time I checked SS is no Deion. Smith is the most pathetic excuse for a football player, in regards to tackling, I have seen in a long time. He is almost saying, with his body language, that if I hold on to the guy maybe someone else can come bring him down. I was very high on him when we drafted him, but to say I am disappointed would be a big understatement. His lack, no absence, of physicality is really getting on my nerves.

Here is a list of FA CBs(thanks goes to gmoney41)
Here is who to look at in the draft:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/CB.php
Sean Smith cant tackle.....big whoop....90% of the corners in the NFL cant tackle,get over it....