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skipp2myloo13
12-30-2009, 01:41 AM
1. Dez Bryant WR
2. Rolando McClainLB
3. Kindle OLB
4. Dan Williams DT
5. Brandon Spikes LB
6.Grisham TE
7. Thomas S
8. Tate WR
9. Benn WR
10. Huges OLB

Bryant is one of those players you dont want to let pass, and this year with our talent level if he is there we cna afford to take him.
McClain-Best player for us IMO
Kindle-Very good fit IMO could be a staple with Wake
Williams-I doubt we do this and i dont really want to, but he is a great talent
Spikes-What will we get with him??? First round gamble
Grisham-idea is good on paper he is great TE, but doubt this materializes because of other needs
Thomas is a good saftey who can help free up Gibril. They have Clemons so they may not waste a fist at S this year,
Tate-Best receiver in the draft not named Dez. Steve Smith part deux
Benn-Best of the rest receiver-strongly doubt this happens but he would be an undoubtable upgrade
Hughes-good little talent, not totally proven. LB is bp's specialty though

RealDriscoll
12-30-2009, 09:46 AM
Good lis bro. My only concern is having Sergio Kindle graded out as a 1st Rounder. You think he will go that high? I could see him falling into our laps in the 3rd round.

skipp2myloo13
12-30-2009, 12:59 PM
Good lis bro. My only concern is having Sergio Kindle graded out as a 1st Rounder. You think he will go that high? I could see him falling into our laps in the 3rd round.

That would be great, idk how how he will go, but from what i have seen of him i think he fits our system spot on. He could be oppo Wake for a long time. He would be a great 2nd or 3rd round pick up. But i have a feeling his stock will shoot up.

greasyObnoxious
12-30-2009, 01:16 PM
that's a good looking list. i would include Spiller based on playmaking ability, but i think your choices are pretty close.

skipp2myloo13
12-30-2009, 01:30 PM
that's a good looking list. i would include Spiller based on playmaking ability, but i think your choices are pretty close.

Honestly, im starting to come around to spiller because he can be the slot and back type but the name i keep seeing with him is Reggie Bush. Now Bush isnt a bust, he can play, but no one, in hindsight, would take him where he was projected to go. Now like RD said earlier, Rush would be a good addition to this team but my fear is that taking Spiller in the first is like trading a first for Reggie Bush. Which i doubt anyone is comfortable doing. P.S.-I also see a lot of Harvin in Spiller which is why he still intrigues me.

greasyObnoxious
12-30-2009, 01:38 PM
Honestly, im starting to come around to spiller because he can be the slot and back type but the name i keep seeing with him is Reggie Bush. Now Bush isnt a bust, he can play, but no one, in hindsight, would take him where he was projected to go. Now like RD said earlier, Rush would be a good addition to this team but my fear is that taking Spiller in the first is like trading a first for Reggie Bush. Which i doubt anyone is comfortable doing. P.S.-I also see a lot of Harvin in Spiller which is why he still intrigues me.

IMO Spiller is a tougher runner than Bush. he reminds me more of Chris Johnson than Reggie Bush. we'll see. i think the role of a RB is evolving in today's NFL. you don't see too many pure runners anymore. offenses need all-purpose weapons at RB these days. Spiller is exactly that IMO.

RealDriscoll
12-30-2009, 01:43 PM
My only complain about Kindle is that a strong running game can really neautrilize him. Other than that he is a very good player. I'd rather snag Brandon Graham or Corey Wootton in Round 2 though..

skipp2myloo13
12-30-2009, 01:45 PM
I agree he can be an absolute weapon if utilized properly. However, with the PW fiasco i have 0 confidence in the staff utilizing weapons properly. I surely wont be disappointed if he fell to our laps and if i were to insert him in the list it would prob be 3ish. Its kind of difficult for me, i have always been a conservative team builder and hence called for the Long picks and last year i was pleased with the Cb selections. However, this season McCalin and Bryants are the clear cut BPA at Pos of need. If they are both taken by our pick, which i fear, its a whole new ball game. You may very well have your spiller wish come true.

skipp2myloo13
12-30-2009, 01:48 PM
My only complain about Kindle is that a strong running game can really neautrilize him. Other than that he is a very good player. I'd rather snag Brandon Graham or Corey Wootton in Round 2 though..

Wooten looks like he could be a very nice player for our type of system. Graham i am not too familiar with, unfort. Kindle does seem rather one dimensional, which seems to be what we have with Wake and Porter. Me seems a little more wellrounded with Wake but putting them both out on a pass rushing island is a bit scary. Wooten cannot compare to the physical force that i see kindle being but i think he is more balanced and could help our team just as much if utilized correctly.

greasyObnoxious
12-30-2009, 01:48 PM
I agree he can be an absolute weapon if utilized properly. However, with the PW fiasco i have 0 confidence in the staff utilizing weapons properly. I surely wont be disappointed if he fell to our laps and if i were to insert him in the list it would prob be 3ish. Its kind of difficult for me, i have always been a conservative team builder and hence called for the Long picks and last year i was pleased with the Cb selections. However, this season McCalin and Bryants are the clear cut BPA at Pos of need. If they are both taken by our pick, which i fear, its a whole new ball game. You may very well have your spiller wish come true.

yeah, that's a good point about Pat White, unfortunately.

RealDriscoll
12-30-2009, 01:49 PM
If I were "MOCKING" today I would look at our draft like this....

Round 1: Dez Bryant-WR-Oklahoma State
Round 2: Corey Wootton-OLB-Northwestern
Round 3: Jon Asomoah-OG-Illinois
Round 4: Jimmy Graham-TE-Miami Fl.
Round 6A: Cam Thomas-NT-North Carolina
Round 6B: Torrell Troup-NT-Central Florida
Round 7A:Mike Tepper-Offensive Tackle-California
Round 7B: Damion Fletcher-RB-Southern Miss

skipp2myloo13
12-30-2009, 01:50 PM
If I were "MOCKING" today I would look at our draft like this....

Round 1: Dez Bryant-WR-Oklahoma State
Round 2: Corey Wootton-OLB-Northwestern
Round 3: Jon Asomoah-OG-Illinois
Round 4: Jimmy Graham-TE-Miami Fl.
Round 6A: Cam Thomas-NT-North Carolina
Round 6B: Torrell Troup-NT-Central Florida
Round 7A:Mike Tepper-Offensive Tackle-California
Round 7B: Damion Fletcher-RB-Southern Miss

If i were "BETTING" later that same day, i would bet we could very well make a far push in the playoffs. haha.

RealDriscoll
12-30-2009, 02:01 PM
CK who is knowledgable with this draft stuff thinks Graham could go higher and I could see it. This kid's value is going to sky-rocket at the combine. We might have to take him in Round 3.

OrlandoFin
12-30-2009, 02:05 PM
If I were "MOCKING" today I would look at our draft like this....

Round 1: Dez Bryant-WR-Oklahoma State
Round 2: Corey Wootton-OLB-Northwestern
Round 3: Jon Asomoah-OG-Illinois
Round 4: Jimmy Graham-TE-Miami Fl.
Round 6A: Cam Thomas-NT-North Carolina
Round 6B: Torrell Troup-NT-Central Florida
Round 7A:Mike Tepper-Offensive Tackle-California
Round 7B: Damion Fletcher-RB-Southern Miss

Where do you see ILB help coming from? Also for some reason Wootton scares the heck out of me. I can't put my finger on it but I see Maybin written all over him.

OrlandoFin
12-30-2009, 02:08 PM
CK who is knowledgable with this draft stuff thinks Graham could go higher and I could see it. This kid's value is going to sky-rocket at the combine. We might have to take him in Round 3.

Graham is going to be a freak at the combine, but only playing one year has got to scare people. I know there will be some that see Antonio Gates part deux.

He could move up but I still think he's gonna fall somewhere in the 4th or 5th.

skipp2myloo13
12-30-2009, 02:09 PM
One of the things that i can see not only from my list but any mock draft is that there is clearly a definite top tier and there seems to be a significant drop off after that. Im normally not inclined to take a WR with 1 and im no this year either. i dont wanna take a WR, i wanna take THE WR- Dez Bryant. If we cant get him and McCain isnt there we dont have to be conservative and reach for kindle, unless he is BPA, because of guys like Wooten and Graham who will be good later. Our draft is wide open and this is one of those years i am very excited for.

skipp2myloo13
12-30-2009, 02:10 PM
Where do you see ILB help coming from? Also for some reason Wootton scares the heck out of me. I can't put my finger on it but I see Maybin written all over him.

ILb is stacked in FA, Ruud, Ryans, Dansby, Morrison, Jackson just to name a few.

RealDriscoll
12-30-2009, 02:18 PM
Dansby would be very nice...

OrlandoFin
12-30-2009, 02:18 PM
ILb is stacked in FA, Ruud, Ryans, Dansby, Morrison, Jackson just to name a few.

I am not sure any of those hit the market. Aren't they all in the same boat as Ronnie and would become RFA instead of UFAs?

skipp2myloo13
12-30-2009, 02:20 PM
I am not sure any of those hit the market. Aren't they all in the same boat as Ronnie and would become RFA instead of UFAs?

I do not believe so. I believe they are all legit FA. And Dansby was franchised last season so i think he cant be franchised again, or was that only Haynesworth?

hooshoops
12-30-2009, 02:23 PM
"i'm on a boat" :lol:

OrlandoFin
12-30-2009, 02:23 PM
I do not believe so. I believe they are all legit FA. And Dansby was franchised last season so i think he cant be franchised again, or was that only Haynesworth?

Yeah, Dansby would not be, but I am pretty sure the others are under 7 years in the league. I believe Dansby can be franchised again, and if the Cards part with Boldin I believe they will of course I think Doclett's contract is up as well.

RealDriscoll
12-30-2009, 02:42 PM
I'm going to start DVRing the rest of the bowl games and breaking down some video. I am not in "Mock" mode yet because I usually wait until January 16th (Declaration deadline) for Mock #1 and than do Mock #2 after free agency and the combine.

Gordykr
12-30-2009, 02:49 PM
I'd like to see us pick up a big name FA ILB then draft McClain in the 1st(if he's there) that sorts the ILB positions for the next few years then go OLB in the 2nd . IF McClain is gone and Bryant is also off the board when we pick we could try to trade down and pick up extra 2nd/3rd round picks.

RealDriscoll
12-30-2009, 02:53 PM
I don't think we need to draft an ILB in Round 1 and sign a big-name free agent by any means. Channing crowder is a good player and moving him to the 2nd Inside Linebacker could really be worthwhile.

skipp2myloo13
12-30-2009, 03:21 PM
I don't think we need to draft an ILB in Round 1 and sign a big-name free agent by any means. Channing crowder is a good player and moving him to the 2nd Inside Linebacker could really be worthwhile.

Crowder is a good player, i never understood the overall hatred towards him. He is servicable at least and with a good ILb next to him i think he will be an excellent piece.

j-off-her-doll
12-30-2009, 09:29 PM
My only complain about Kindle is that a strong running game can really neautrilize him. Other than that he is a very good player. I'd rather snag Brandon Graham or Corey Wootton in Round 2 though..

I could be thinking of someone else, but didn't you say that you thought Graham was overrated? By the way, I completely agree. I think Graham is the best SSOLB prospect in the draft - only concern is height, especially with our FO. If you look at the stats this season, Kindle did very little in terms of sacking the QB or getting tackles for loss. Graham, though, led the nations in tackles for loss and compiled 9.5 sacks. Also keep in mind that Graham was easily the best defensive player on his team, while Kindle played on a D loaded with talent. When I thought we were going to the playoffs - giving us a lower pick - I had Graham as one of my players I'd consider reaching for in the 1st. I'd love to see him opposite Wake. Also, Hughes is the best WSOLB in the draft, so Kindle should really be a good deal lower.