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jim1
01-06-2010, 10:07 AM
Part Two of our NFL Draft primer, focusing on offensive players at two positions of interest to the Dolphins:

Receiver: The question is whether Oklahoma State's 6-2 Dez Bryant -- the consensus top receiver -- could slip to Miami's pick at No. 12, though the Dolphins also will consider defense. Many have Bryant going in the top 10, and Mel Kiper ranks him ninth overall.

He played in just three games in 2009 before an NCAA suspension for lying to investigators. ``Dynamic receiver, punt returner and TD maker,'' Kiper wrote on espn.com. ``He's compared to Terrell Owens, which could rub some the wrong way. But aside from T.O.'s physical strength, it's not out of line.''

Sporting News draft analyst/former Browns scout Russ Lande identifies three other possible first-rounders: Illinois' Arrelious Benn, Notre Dame's Golden Tate and Cincinnati's Mardy Gilyard. All are projected to go lower than 12th -- Kiper has none in his top 25. Those three would be options if Miami trades down; many have Gilyard going in Round 2.

Benn's numbers dropped (38 catches for 490 yards; 67 for 1,055 in '08). ``But NFL teams know his big-play ability as a receiver and return man can't be taught,'' ESPN's Todd McShay said.

Lande calls Gilyard (80 catches, 1,150 yards, 11 TDs) ``the most explosive big play receiver in the draft, better than Benn'' -- though most rate Benn higher. Like Lande, Kiper rates Gilyard higher than others do, but he has a history of ankle injuries.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/miami-dolphins/story/1410990.html

hooshoops
01-06-2010, 11:36 AM
right now i don't see gilyard as a 1st rounder

the more tape i watch of other players the more i'm moving benn into the fringe 1st round/early second

fgrocker
01-06-2010, 11:51 AM
It seems that we should have plenty of options at WR in round 2 to get a solid playmaker. We need to go defense with the first round pick.

hooshoops
01-06-2010, 11:55 AM
It seems that we should have plenty of options at WR in round 2 to get a solid playmaker. We need to go defense with the first round pick.

if dez bryant is gone at #12 i agree

ckparrothead
01-06-2010, 12:10 PM
DeSean Jackson is paving the way for Gilyard to possibly go in the first round.

There's something to be said there. Gilyard and Jackson have similar game. They're both fast enough to get open deep in the NFL. They both are feisty as all heck, creative runners. Neither blocks worth a damn.

hooshoops
01-06-2010, 12:14 PM
lol...that's funny cause i see gilyard as a poor mans desean jackson...don't think i see desean jacksons speed

gilyard needs to get off press at the senior bowl practices for me also

ckparrothead
01-06-2010, 12:16 PM
Remember that in all actuality DeSean Jackson's speed was in the 4.4x range. But he gets open deep. That's the kind of player I see Mardy Gilyard as.

BARF
01-06-2010, 12:25 PM
i say we trade down, pick up another 2nd rounder which would one of those wr's, and we get our ilb between pick 18-22

ckparrothead
01-06-2010, 12:36 PM
I would really be keen on the idea of trading down to acquire picks in 2011.

mmikel30
01-06-2010, 12:44 PM
I would really be keen on the idea of trading down to acquire picks in 2011.this draft is much much deeper than 2011

ckparrothead
01-06-2010, 01:01 PM
this draft is much much deeper than 2011

Not in my opinion. Keeping in mind I watch an average of about 20 hours of game tape a week evaluating players and cutting up video for Universal Draft.

Tiko377
01-06-2010, 02:47 PM
Then your opinion means slightly more than my opinion. :lol: I would rather us draft Bryant (if available) at 12. If not, I would take Spikes before I moved down.

i gotta agree with you.

we have 7 draft picks already 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,6th,6th,7th

we will probably trade ginn for a lower draft pick also.

imagine we get dez bryant then get defense the rest of the draft? i would be really happy.

RealDriscoll
01-06-2010, 02:55 PM
2011 is a much deeper draft. It's not even close... Andrew Luck of Stanford, Jake Locker of Washington, Ryan Mallett of Arkansas, Jevan Snead of Mississippi, Mark Ingram of Alabama, Ryan Williams of Virginia Tech, , Clint Boling of Georgia, Jonathan Baldwin of Pittsburgh, Michael Floyd of Notre Dame, Julio Jones of Alabama, AJ Green of Georgia, D'Quan Bowers of Clemson, Cameron Heyward of Ohio State, Marcus Forston of Miami, Jurrell Casey of USC, Galippo of USC, Michael Morgan of USC, Jarvis Jenkins of Clemson, Patrick Peterson of LSU, Janoris Jenkins of Florida, Ras-I Dowling of Virginia, DeAndre McDaniel of Clemson, Rahim Moore of UCLA, Tyron Smith of USC, Allen Bailey of Miami, John Clay of Wisconsin, Greg Jones of Michigan State, Terrell Pryor of Ohio State, Chimdi Chekwa of Ohio State, Christian Ponder of Florida State, Jacory Harris of Miami, Jarriel King of South Carolina, Bruce Carter of UNC, Marvin Austin of UNC, Deunta Williams of UNC, Robert Quinn of UNC, Kendric Burney of UNC, Matt Reynolds of BYU, Ryan Broyles of Oklahoma, Kyle Rudolph of Notre Dame, Pat Devlin of Delaware.. Whew! That is loaded

Pinkboy
01-06-2010, 02:56 PM
i gotta agree with you.

we have 7 draft picks already 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,6th,6th,7th

we will probably trade ginn for a lower draft pick also.

The Dolphins currently have 9 picks. They have three 6th's and two 7th's

RockyMtnPhinfan
01-06-2010, 02:57 PM
Trade down to low twenties, gain another 2nd round pick. Pick a sure fire NT (Terrence Cody and Dan Williams are the names i am hearing) with the first pick and then go for the BWRA (best WR available) with the first pick in 2nd rd. Arrelious Benn is a name that keeps popping up. Then find a LB with the 2nd 2nd rd pick.
Does this sound feasible? I do not watch much college football to be completely honest. CK have an opinion on my opinion? Would love to hear it.

RealDriscoll
01-06-2010, 03:00 PM
You don't just trade to acquire more picks. you trade if a guy you target such as Dez Bryant gets picked before you than you look to trade down. Dez, Spiller, Graham, Hughes, McClain, Spikes, and even Gresham would make me very happy @12

enduro
01-06-2010, 04:44 PM
I would really be keen on the idea of trading down to acquire picks in 2011.

yea well we need freakin help this year. i don't have the patience to wait another year for a player that grades out higher. plug them holes this april!!!!!!

VT Dolphan
01-06-2010, 06:48 PM
2011 is a much deeper draft. It's not even close... Andrew Luck of Stanford, Jake Locker of Washington, Ryan Mallett of Arkansas, Jevan Snead of Mississippi, Mark Ingram of Alabama, Ryan Williams of Virginia Tech, , Clint Boling of Georgia, Jonathan Baldwin of Pittsburgh, Michael Floyd of Notre Dame, Julio Jones of Alabama, AJ Green of Georgia, D'Quan Bowers of Clemson, Cameron Heyward of Ohio State, Marcus Forston of Miami, Jurrell Casey of USC, Galippo of USC, Michael Morgan of USC, Jarvis Jenkins of Clemson, Patrick Peterson of LSU, Janoris Jenkins of Florida, Ras-I Dowling of Virginia, DeAndre McDaniel of Clemson, Rahim Moore of UCLA, Tyron Smith of USC, Allen Bailey of Miami, John Clay of Wisconsin, Greg Jones of Michigan State, Terrell Pryor of Ohio State, Chimdi Chekwa of Ohio State, Christian Ponder of Florida State, Jacory Harris of Miami, Jarriel King of South Carolina, Bruce Carter of UNC, Marvin Austin of UNC, Deunta Williams of UNC, Robert Quinn of UNC, Kendric Burney of UNC, Matt Reynolds of BYU, Ryan Broyles of Oklahoma, Kyle Rudolph of Notre Dame, Pat Devlin of Delaware.. Whew! That is loaded

Sorry to nitpick, but Williams was only a redshirt freshman. I seriously doubt he leaves next year even with Tech's loaded backfield.

A lot of the other guys you listed are only underclassmen now and would have to leave early. I thought I heard something about the money for draft picks decreasing significantly if it's an uncapped year. If that's true I doubt juniors will be anxious to leave school early. Anyone have any info on that?