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madmic21
01-08-2010, 01:04 AM
Hey whatever you wanna say about the guy, he did a heck of a job with Alabama. Sometimes you can hate but what he did down there was impressive. I guess I am just too nice of a guy.

The Mountie
01-08-2010, 01:05 AM
Hey whatever you wanna say about the guy, he did a heck of a job with Alabama. Sometimes you can hate but what he did down there was impressive. I guess I am just too nice of a guy.


Colt stays in that game and Texas wins. He got lucky today.

MadDog 88
01-08-2010, 01:05 AM
I'll congratulate the Alabama players but not that turd.

madmic21
01-08-2010, 01:07 AM
I'll congratulate the Alabama players but not that turd.


I can respect that.

zodiak
01-08-2010, 01:11 AM
say what you will, I dispise him for not having his heart in being a pro coach after taking Waynes money....BUT he proves once again coaching matters.

I am so envious of winners god I cant waite for the day I can see the dolphins holding the vince lombardi trophy

13finfan4ever
01-08-2010, 01:12 AM
I hate Saban. and with 3:20 left the Freshman QB from texas had a chance to drive and win.

CalDolFan10x14
01-08-2010, 01:12 AM
/clears throat....**** Nick Satan! That is all!

Kdawg954
01-08-2010, 01:14 AM
I have nothing against Nick. Guy is a hell of a COLLEGE coach. We wouldn't be **** with him anyway, the NFL is not for him.

Congrats to Bama, well deserved and a very talented team . . . McClain come on down.

MadDog 88
01-08-2010, 01:18 AM
It's not just about the lying prior to leaving. It's about how he treated people when he was in Miami. Throw in his wife's comments about escaping Miami and it adds up to no class, obnoxious, arrogant a$$.

Bta72dolphins
01-08-2010, 01:27 AM
I will never congratulate nick that win goes to a very talented team not him. YOU can say whatever you want, but he **** us up.

das8929
01-08-2010, 01:28 AM
Congrats he beat a backup QB

TurkishFin99
01-08-2010, 01:31 AM
A true freshman led most of a comeback. Saban did nothing to win that game. The only thing that I saw was the prefectly called corner blitz that jarred the ball loose towards the end of the game. Outside of that, it was his players making the plays. Had McCoy came back in the game, Texas would've won that game easily. Shipley was torching Barron all game and McCoy would've made them pay. Saban is a ______________ <----------- (insert insult here.)

ColonelJ
01-08-2010, 01:32 AM
Congrats to Satan Nicktator.

Robs88
01-08-2010, 01:33 AM
That guy is a JACKASS!!!, Smile Nick you just won the championship game, Lucky for you Colt McCoy got injured...

phins_4_ever
01-08-2010, 01:34 AM
Hey whatever you wanna say about the guy, he did a heck of a job with Alabama. Sometimes you can hate but what he did down there was impressive. I guess I am just too nice of a guy.

Screw Saban. The only thing worse than a quitter is a lying quitter. He is a lying *******. Can't make it with the big boys, so he plays with the little boys.

If Colt stays in, Alabama gets whooped. Heck, a freshman almost got to them.

And what was this running up the score with 50 seconds left?

He'll get his - one of these days.

BigJP
01-08-2010, 01:38 AM
Congrats to the Alabama players, Psst... hey nick FU*K YOU!!!!

Phantom
01-08-2010, 01:38 AM
I was hoping he drowned during the gatorade bath!!!

DirkDiggler
01-08-2010, 01:41 AM
Screw him and his shop a holic Wife!

johngarry
01-08-2010, 03:03 AM
***k Lord Whorfin and the horse he rode in on!!! Big Booty...my overthruster!!

JCane
01-08-2010, 03:07 AM
LOL @ All of the "Well, with Colt McCoy" blah blah blah crap. I guess we beat the Patriots last season because they didn't have Tom Brady, right?

Alabama had to go out and beat Texas—not Colt McCoy. Injuries happen. It's a part of the game. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Alabama held the great Tim Tebow in check. They also did a nice job on Tyrod taylor, Jevan Snead and Ryan Mallet.

Congratualtions to Nick Saban and his football team. Saban is EASILY the greatest college football coach I've seen in my lifetime.

PhinSoldia
01-08-2010, 03:10 AM
Seriously????? This Guy Left This F******** Team For Shreds And You Want To Congratulate His ***? If I Lived Remotely Close To Tuscaloosa I Would Gladly Do A Clip Of 20 To Life For Dealing With His Dumb ***

Ban Me Do Whatever I Hate The Guy As Much As I Hate Satan Himself Even More

JCane
01-08-2010, 03:16 AM
Seriously????? This Guy Left This F******** Team For Shreds And You Want To Congratulate His ***? If I Lived Remotely Close To Tuscaloosa I Would Gladly Do A Clip Of 20 To Life For Dealing With His Dumb ***

Ban Me Do Whatever I Hate The Guy As Much As I Hate Satan Himself Even More

Yeah, I do congratulate him. He did what was best for himself and his family which is what you and I do EVERYDAY when we step out of the bed. Yeah, Saban left us. His heart wasn't in it. Can you blame him for leaving if his heart wasn't in it? If his heart isn't in it, why would you want him here. I'm glad he left. We both benefited from his departure.

Did he tell a couple of lies? Maybe. Did he hide it from people that he was interested? Yeah. And? When I go out looking for a new job, I don't come back to my current job and tell my superiors that I'm looking for a new job. When I do apply for a new job, I don't want my future employer contacting my present employer. That reflects badly on me. My current employer may can my *** on the spot. I need a job. I have a family to support. You gotta work angles in life. This is a BUSINESS.

LMAO @ 20 to life because a coach didn't want to coach your football team. That's AWFUL.

AdamC13
01-08-2010, 03:26 AM
Score 0-0, 1st quarter, 4th and 23 around your own 30 yard line and you go for a fake punt...I am not Saban is not a good coach but WTF?

Texas looked like the better all around team. McCoy doesn't get hurt and Texas is probably celebrating a National Championship. If I had a vote it would go to Boise St.

HeartbreakKid28
01-08-2010, 03:27 AM
More salt in the wound. He wins a national championship making us all wonder if he would have taken us to the super bowl championship by now, had he not lied and bailed on us leaving us as a disaster.

JCane
01-08-2010, 03:31 AM
More salt in the wound. He wins a national championship making us all wonder if he would have taken us to the super bowl championship by now, had he not lied and bailed on us leaving us as a disaster.

Highly doubtful. Saban isn't a professional coach. Even he'll admit it. He's a college guy. Some guys are college guys and some guys are pro guys. Charlie Weis will do very well in Kansas City. He was a running joke at Notre Dame.

SkapePhin
01-08-2010, 03:45 AM
**** Nick "I'm Not Gonna Be Alabama Coach" Saban!

Colt McCoy doesn't get injured, Horns win...

JCane
01-08-2010, 03:46 AM
I can see people don't bother actually READING the thread...

**** America is lazy...

ZILLA
01-08-2010, 04:21 AM
**** nick saban

Vertical Limit
01-08-2010, 04:25 AM
I will never congratulate nick that win goes to a very talented team not him. YOU can say whatever you want, but he **** us up.

A talented team with most of his own recruits that he developed. Yes the guy was a complete ******* to our team but don't discredit Nick. He's the best college coach in the nation right now.

BARF
01-08-2010, 04:25 AM
**** nick saban

i am with you, ruck nick the pfick saban

JCane
01-08-2010, 04:30 AM
I can't believe that some of you are still butthurt over Saban.

ZILLA
01-08-2010, 04:35 AM
I can't believe that some of you are still butthurt over Saban.

nobodys butthurt

some of us believe lying is a sign of poor character

nick saban is a scumbag...

no forgiveness...

i can move on but i wont forgive....

BARF
01-08-2010, 04:47 AM
i had to root for him when he faced the gators, that hurt me more

JCane
01-08-2010, 04:49 AM
i had to root for him when he faced the gators, that hurt me more

Why? The entire world should root against those douchebag Gators. I'd root for Al-Qaeda before I did those *******s.

That's real talk.

BARF
01-08-2010, 04:59 AM
oh i am glad the gators got their arses kicked we got to see the real tebow that wuss

sm0kinfins
01-08-2010, 05:14 AM
Why? The entire world should root against those douchebag Gators. I'd root for Al-Qaeda before I did those *******s.

That's real talk.

You blast one guy for saying he would do time to take care of a coach who didn't want to coach our team, then you go on to say you'd rather root for Al-Qaeda than Florida... No sir, THAT'S AWFUL. (and awfully hypocritical)

JCane
01-08-2010, 05:24 AM
You blast one guy for saying he would do time to take care of a coach who didn't want to coach our team, then you go on to say you'd rather root for Al-Qaeda than Florida... No sir, THAT'S AWFUL. (and awfully hypocritical)

Coming after me hard tonight, aren't you?

PhinSoldia
01-08-2010, 05:24 AM
You blast one guy for saying he would do time to take care of a coach who didn't want to coach our team, then you go on to say you'd rather root for Al-Qaeda than Florida... No sir, THAT'S AWFUL. (and awfully hypocritical)


i was waiting for someone else to see that because maybe i was crazy

JCane
01-08-2010, 05:25 AM
i was waiting for someone else to see that because maybe i was crazy

No you weren't lol.

PhinSoldia
01-08-2010, 05:27 AM
No you weren't lol.


hey everybody has thier short list of human beings they would gladly pull the trigger on if the chance was granted...he is just on my short list and seriously he is damn lucky im in huntsville and not TSC

call it what you want.

JCane
01-08-2010, 05:30 AM
I'd never take another person's life if "granted" because it's not in my character.

There's a big difference between taking someone's life and rooting against a football team.

Awsi Dooger
01-08-2010, 05:43 AM
Congratulations to basic football. Seemingly every time we're told the game has forever moved away from its roots, that points come out of the passing game, an uppercut reminder is unwrapped smack to the jaw of a pathetic finesse passing team.

I hope the Dolphins learned something from Texas' last meaningful drive, down by 3. You can't go empty if the QB isn't elite. It's one of the unemphasized truisms of the sport. Premier players like Brady and Manning can make everything work. That leads lesser teams to steal ideas from them that are masochistic at lower level. As soon as Texas went empty with the backup QB I said to my friend, "Here they come..." Alabama shattered the play, causing a fumble and all but ending the game. We tried to go empty with Pat White last weekend and he was massacred for a huge loss. Herbstreit emphasized correctly in the first half, that as soon as a team empties the backfield the opponent sends one more rusher than the offense can block.

Vaark
01-08-2010, 05:52 AM
So now Satan's 5-6 in Bowl games...surpassing his impressive 15-17 pro record. A win is a win is a win of course, but IMO, this one was akin to beating The Colts in a game, (not to mention the playoffs), with Peyton sitting on the bench...a tad tainted. To his credit though, he had a great year and he did it with a nucleus of HIS players recruited this time as compared to going 9-7 with mostly Wanny's guys.

sm0kinfins
01-08-2010, 06:04 AM
Coming after me hard tonight, aren't you?

LOL Sorry bro, nothing personal. Guess we just happen to be hitting the same topics tonight and you happen to be saying things that catch my ire. Cheers bro! :beer1:

Marc790
01-08-2010, 06:20 AM
Hey whatever you wanna say about the guy, he did a heck of a job with Alabama. Sometimes you can hate but what he did down there was impressive. I guess I am just too nice of a guy.

Nick Saban can take the championship trophy and shove it.

Sundance Kid
01-08-2010, 06:56 AM
Congrats to the Players Mike Shula brought to Alabama.....

JCane
01-08-2010, 06:57 AM
Congrats to the Players Mike Shula brought to Alabama.....

lol wat

USMC_GUNZ
01-08-2010, 08:20 AM
Why? The entire world should root against those douchebag Gators. I'd root for Al-Qaeda before I did those *******s.

That's real talk.

Ya know...I wake up this morning...read and (cough) respected you opinion on Coach Satan...but the remark above....

Who the %#%^ (sounds like duck), do u think u r? U wanna root for Al_Qaeda? Go live with them for ahwile and I only pray I have u in my sights. To even remotely joke about this is in very VERY poor taste.

You make a joke earlier about "lazy america"....once again....if u don't love it...leave it...its easier to complain from the lazy boy chair than it is to do something about it.

fatkirstyalley
01-08-2010, 08:37 AM
Saban is a quitter and liar. Happy for the Alabama players, but I give nothing to Saban

Nublar7
01-08-2010, 09:36 AM
Screw Saban.

JCfinfan
01-08-2010, 10:01 AM
"F" Saban. He is a huge TURD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Namor
01-08-2010, 10:31 AM
Congrats to the Players Mike Shula brought to Alabama.....

HHHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAA!!!!
HHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAA!!!

chrisbaucom
01-08-2010, 10:45 AM
Yeah, I do congratulate him. He did what was best for himself and his family which is what you and I do EVERYDAY when we step out of the bed. Yeah, Saban left us. His heart wasn't in it. Can you blame him for leaving if his heart wasn't in it? If his heart isn't in it, why would you want him here. I'm glad he left. We both benefited from his departure.

Did he tell a couple of lies? Maybe. Did he hide it from people that he was interested? Yeah. And? When I go out looking for a new job, I don't come back to my current job and tell my superiors that I'm looking for a new job. When I do apply for a new job, I don't want my future employer contacting my present employer. That reflects badly on me. My current employer may can my *** on the spot. I need a job. I have a family to support. You gotta work angles in life. This is a BUSINESS.

LMAO @ 20 to life because a coach didn't want to coach your football team. That's AWFUL.


You looking for another job on the down low and Nick Saban lying to everyone are completely different. It's not like H Wayne was paying him in peanuts, he was making $5 mil. He heart wasn't in it because it was harder to win in the NFL than college and Nick doesn't like to lose. So he lied and bolted back to college. Spare me the argument about "best for himself and his family". That is a load of crap.

steeda
01-08-2010, 10:55 AM
**** nick saban

That's all that needs to be said.

:fhpotd:

Namor
01-08-2010, 11:06 AM
You looking for another job on the down low and Nick Saban lying to everyone are completely different. It's not like H Wayne was paying him in peanuts, he was making $5 mil. He heart wasn't in it because it was harder to win in the NFL than college and Nick doesn't like to lose. So he lied and bolted back to college. Spare me the argument about "best for himself and his family". That is a load of crap.

No..the load of crap is our idiot owner Wayne and some of his cronies
meddled way to much in Saban's business here.
He was supposed to have total controll but Wayne couldn't stop from
listening to some of his cronies and tried to "guide" some Nick's hire.
For Example,not allowing Nick to name Will Muschamp,who is the next
Saban,defensive coordinator for "freaking' Richard Harris" was the first
straw.
Then when Mueller had Waynes' ear about Brees not being worth the
money based on the doctors report was the final straw.
Mal Moore had already offered Nick the Bama job,before the season was
over.
Nick said he would not look for a job until the season was over to not
mess up a small chance we had at the playoffs.
The boosters at Bama decided they could not wait for a answer so they
offered it to Rich Rod.
So basically when Nick said what he said "Rich Rod" had been offered
the job.
Mal Moore made it clear to Rich that he wanted Saban and that Rich was
not his first choice.
Rich decided to turn down the job..(Thank God")opening the door back open for Nick.
Wayne had such a great track record while owning the Dolphins.

C-HUCKS
01-08-2010, 12:16 PM
Saban is a lying scumbag, I have no repect of him whatsoever. Even though he is a winning coach, the guy is also very dishonest, it would not suprise me to see him get caught up in a NCAA scandel very soon.

Vaark
01-08-2010, 12:22 PM
No..the load of crap is our idiot owner Wayne and some of his cronies
meddled way to much in Saban's business here.
He was supposed to have total controll but Wayne couldn't stop from
listening to some of his cronies and tried to "guide" some Nick's hire.
For Example,not allowing Nick to name Will Muschamp,who is the next
Saban,defensive coordinator for "freaking' Richard Harris" was the first
straw.
Then when Mueller had Waynes' ear about Brees not being worth the
money based on the doctors report was the final straw.
Mal Moore had already offered Nick the Bama job,before the season was
over.
Nick said he would not look for a job until the season was over to not
mess up a small chance we had at the playoffs.
The boosters at Bama decided they could not wait for a answer so they
offered it to Rich Rod.
So basically when Nick said what he said "Rich Rod" had been offered
the job.
Mal Moore made it clear to Rich that he wanted Saban and that Rich was
not his first choice.
Rich decided to turn down the job..(Thank God")opening the door back open for Nick.
Wayne had such a great track record while owning the Dolphins.

Namor, you know I think you're the man and a valued long-standing FH contributor.

However, (and you knew that was coming, LOL) IMO, understandably because you love and continue to have a hands-on involvement with your university, I also think you have a blind spot when it comes to Satan, who no doubt has delivered for you.

Objectively speaking, if you were an LSU, Michigan State, or had most any
impartial rooting interest, you'd not be so accepting of what's a transparently self-serving attempt to revise history. Between what WH paid Satan, the fact that we led the league in coaches that year and built the bubble (which I don't deny is a good thing) at his behest, I find Little Nicky's tale-spinning difficult to believe. What I find even more hard to believe is that he's revealed himself to be even more of a prick by falsely throwing Wayne under the bus to justify the continuation of his habitual track record of lies and deception, and as an excuse for his mediocre pro coaching abilities, since obviously this fairytale comes from him directly or one of his stooges.

Does he mention how he browbeat and intimidated support staff who couldn't deck the pipsqueak for fear for their job, like the Napoleonic dictator that he is? Incidentally, I do know of a husband of one of his victims who was ready to kick the crap out of him outside his favorite Davie restaurant before cooler heads prevailed, including a friend of mine and his spouse.

Sorry bro, but accepting this history revision might resonate for those who
want to believe it, like the Crimson Tide family, but really, the story he's weaving is like being told by Bernie Madoff that he didn't pull one of his Ponzi schemes on YOUR account...or a convicted rapist that this one time was consensual.

I'll give the little shmuck credit for his NCAA accomplishments but just hate the fact that forever more in Alabama's history his name will be associated with a true great man, groundbreaker and legend, Bear Bryant.

Namor
01-08-2010, 12:23 PM
Saban is a lying scumbag, I have no repect of him whatsoever. Even though he is a winning coach, the guy is also very dishonest, it would not suprise me to see him get caught up in a NCAA scandel very soon.
Read above...and thats Shula that was the getting caught up in scandal.

Namor
01-08-2010, 12:32 PM
Namor, you know I think you're the man and a valued long-standing FH contributor.

However, (and you knew that was coming, LOL) IMO, understandably because you love and continue to have a hands-on involvement with your university, I also think you have a blind spot when it comes to Satan, who no doubt has delivered for you.

Objectively speaking, if you were an LSU, Michigan State, or had most any
impartial rooting interest, you'd not be so accepting of what's a transparently self-serving attempt to revise history. Between what WH paid Satan, the fact that we led the league in coaches that year and built the bubble (which I don't deny is a good thing) at his behest, I find Little Nicky's tale-spinning difficult to believe. What I find even more hard to believe is that he's revealed himself to be even more of a prick by falsely throwing Wayne under the bus to justify the continuation of his habitual track record of lies and deception, and as an excuse for his mediocre pro coaching abilities, since obviously this fairytale comes from him directly or one of his stooges.

Does he mention how he browbeat and intimidated support staff who couldn't deck the pipsqueak for fear for their job, like the Napoleonic dictator that he is? Incidentally, I do know of a husband of one of his victims who was ready to kick the crap out of him outside his favorite Davie restaurant before cooler heads prevailed, including a friend of mine and his spouse.

Sorry bro, but accepting this history revision might resonate for those who
want to believe it, like the Crimson Tide family, but really, the story he's weaving is like being told by Bernie Madoff that he didn't pull one of his Ponzi schemes on YOUR account...or a convicted rapist that this one time was consensual.

I'll give the little shmuck credit for his NCAA accomplishments but just hate the fact that forever more in Alabama's history his name will be associated with a true great man, groundbreaker and legend, Bear Bryant.

Hey Vaark.
still love you buddy
and I agree with you to a point.
I loved the Bear..and around here he is god..
but as time goes by people forget how rough and downright mean
he was early on.Some of what he did would be considered criminal now.
Back then it just wasn't plastered on ESPN all the time.
Same as our own Don Shula.He was a mean hardass early on...
as they get older they mellow and change with the times.
Absolute power always corrupts.
It takes a hardass to achieve what these men have achieved.

Namor
01-08-2010, 12:38 PM
As a Bama fan I'm thrilled we won the title,but as a Dolphin fan I'd rather be on these
boards talking about getting ready for a playoff game this weekend.
There are alot of threads on this board about Nick Saban...he has been gone for three years...that in itself says alot.

chrisbaucom
01-08-2010, 01:19 PM
No..the load of crap is our idiot owner Wayne and some of his cronies
meddled way to much in Saban's business here.
He was supposed to have total controll but Wayne couldn't stop from
listening to some of his cronies and tried to "guide" some Nick's hire.
For Example,not allowing Nick to name Will Muschamp,who is the next
Saban,defensive coordinator for "freaking' Richard Harris" was the first
straw.
Then when Mueller had Waynes' ear about Brees not being worth the
money based on the doctors report was the final straw.
Mal Moore had already offered Nick the Bama job,before the season was
over.
Nick said he would not look for a job until the season was over to not
mess up a small chance we had at the playoffs.
The boosters at Bama decided they could not wait for a answer so they
offered it to Rich Rod.
So basically when Nick said what he said "Rich Rod" had been offered
the job.
Mal Moore made it clear to Rich that he wanted Saban and that Rich was
not his first choice.
Rich decided to turn down the job..(Thank God")opening the door back open for Nick.
Wayne had such a great track record while owning the Dolphins.



Just out of curiosity, would your thoughts be the same about Saban had he left the Fins to go coach, let's say.....the Auburn Tigers? Or would you dislike him as much as alot of us do?

I think he's a great coach, but he ran from the challenge of the NFL as quick as he could get that Alabama moving truck into South Florida.

Namor
01-08-2010, 01:49 PM
Just out of curiosity, would your thoughts be the same about Saban had he left the Fins to go coach, let's say.....the Auburn Tigers? Or would you dislike him as much as alot of us do?

I think he's a great coach, but he ran from the challenge of the NFL as quick as he could get that Alabama moving truck into South Florida.

Yes..if I had personal conversations with him at Auburn like I have had
at Bama.
It's not so much as being pro-Saban as being anti-Wayne.
Saban was here for 2 years,he didn't mess this franchise up for the decade in 2 years.Wayne on the other hand almost destroyed this
team.Look at Wayne's track record.
Look at what he did to the Marlins.
Wayne is not the lovable old "Mr. Monoply" guy some people think he is.

chrisbaucom
01-08-2010, 02:18 PM
Yes..if I had personal conversations with him at Auburn like I have had
at Bama.
It's not so much as being pro-Saban as being anti-Wayne.
Saban was here for 2 years,he didn't mess this franchise up for the decade in 2 years.Wayne on the other hand almost destroyed this
team.Look at Wayne's track record.
Look at what he did to the Marlins.
Wayne is not the lovable old "Mr. Monoply" guy some people think he is.


Never said Wayne was blame free.....you're right he is a giant a**.

I listen to guys like you and Tedslimm tell everyone to take their homer glasses off, you should really do the same. Saban is coaching the college team you are a fan of, your opinion of him is obviously biased because of that. I can't blame you for that, because I may feel the same had Saban left to go coach the Canes. Saban may not have wrecked the franchise in 2 years, but blaming it on everyone else and then running away is the action of a 2 year old. He didn't even have a meeting with his coaches, just took off and had a conference call if I remember correctly. There was a reason why the staff in Davie celebrated when he left.....and it wasn't because they knew we were going after Cam Cameron.

I flat out don't like the guy, didn't before he went to the Dolphins, but I wanted him to succeed because I love the Dolphins.

Namor
01-08-2010, 02:33 PM
Never said Wayne was blame free.....you're right he is a giant a**.

I listen to guys like you and Tedslimm tell everyone to take their homer glasses off, you should really do the same. Saban is coaching the college team you are a fan of, your opinion of him is obviously biased because of that. I can't blame you for that, because I may feel the same had Saban left to go coach the Canes. Saban may not have wrecked the franchise in 2 years, but blaming it on everyone else and then running away is the action of a 2 year old. He didn't even have a meeting with his coaches, just took off and had a conference call if I remember correctly. There was a reason why the staff in Davie celebrated when he left.....and it wasn't because they knew we were going after Cam Cameron.

I flat out don't like the guy, didn't before he went to the Dolphins, but I wanted him to succeed because I love the Dolphins.

I'm cool with that.
When it all when down..I was torn apart being a Tide alum and Dolphin
fan,untill I learned more about what happened.
Nick does has his faults and the real truth is most likely somewhere down the middle.Both sides needs to take some blame.
As much as I love my Tide,I've seen Bama win titles before,so,you might
not believe me,but,if I could trade that title last night for a Dolphins Super
Bowl win ,I would do it in a heartbeat...

I'd really like to be greedy and get both at the same time.

chrisbaucom
01-08-2010, 02:51 PM
Me being a Canes fan, can we trade Randy Shannon for a Dolphins Super Bowl win?

phins_4_ever
01-08-2010, 03:03 PM
I'm cool with that.
When it all when down..I was torn apart being a Tide alum and Dolphin
fan,untill I learned more about what happened.
Nick does has his faults and the real truth is most likely somewhere down the middle.Both sides needs to take some blame.
As much as I love my Tide,I've seen Bama win titles before,so,you might
not believe me,but,if I could trade that title last night for a Dolphins Super
Bowl win ,I would do it in a heartbeat...

I'd really like to be greedy and get both at the same time.


I think you are missing the point. Nobody cares whose fault it is that Saban quit on us. It is not even an issue that he quit. Many coaches quit, many players quit. No biggie. The issue is that he stood, during a press conference, and said "I will not be Alabama's coach."

As we all know now, he already had a deal at that time. What is even worse is that he lied with a straight face and he looked believable. Only people who are used to lying and do it frequently can be straight faced liars.

I do believe he pulled the same stunt with LSU.

Namor
01-08-2010, 03:48 PM
I think you are missing the point. Nobody cares whose fault it is that Saban quit on us. It is not even an issue that he quit. Many coaches quit, many players quit. No biggie. The issue is that he stood, during a press conference, and said "I will not be Alabama's coach."

As we all know now, he already had a deal at that time. What is even worse is that he lied with a straight face and he looked believable. Only people who are used to lying and do it frequently can be straight faced liars.

I do believe he pulled the same stunt with LSU.

True and many times over he has said he handled that wrong and if
he could ,he would have probaly done it differently.

No..he talked with his AD at LSU about the Miami job.

TedSlimmJr
01-08-2010, 04:45 PM
So now Satan's 5-6 in Bowl games...surpassing his impressive 15-17 pro record. A win is a win is a win of course, but IMO, this one was akin to beating The Colts in a game, (not to mention the playoffs), with Peyton sitting on the bench...a tad tainted. To his credit though, he had a great year and he did it with a nucleus of HIS players recruited this time as compared to going 9-7 with mostly Wanny's guys.


Along with 2 BCS National Championships and going undefeated in SEC regular season play 2 years in a row...

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on Nick Saban...but no sense in discrediting the achievements of the kids that have earned it...and trust me...they've earned it..

At least liken it to beating the Colts in the playoffs after you've KNOCKED Peyton's *** out of the game....

...this defense has a track record of doing this....it didn't just come out of the clear blue...

The more balanced, more physical, better coached, and better team won....and it usually does...

TedSlimmJr
01-08-2010, 04:47 PM
Oh....and Nick...


Congratulations...:lol:

JCane
01-08-2010, 05:26 PM
You looking for another job on the down low and Nick Saban lying to everyone are completely different. It's not like H Wayne was paying him in peanuts, he was making $5 mil. He heart wasn't in it because it was harder to win in the NFL than college and Nick doesn't like to lose. So he lied and bolted back to college. Spare me the argument about "best for himself and his family". That is a load of crap.

That's what you do in life when you have family. You do things that benefit you an your family. Saban wasn't happy here. His heart is in college football. He's on record saying that. It's not that his heart wasn't in the NFL because it was harder. No one works harder than Nick Saban. He took a dead program to the pinnacle of college football. He didn't do that by sitting on the coach watching Oprah. Nick Saban loves working with kids as opposed to grown men who are paid to play. It's no different than the random fan who likes college football more than he does the NFL. His wife wasn't exactly thrilled about Miami. She's a noted small town girl. Tuscaloosa is a nice little college town.

I don't blame Saban. Some of you talk about what an awful coach he was and then complain because he left lol. Why? If he was so awful shouldn't you be happy he left? Did he handle his decision in the best way? Probably not. But we've all done some dumb **** in life and it's just not under the microscope. Let it go people.

Vaark
01-08-2010, 06:15 PM
Oh....and Nick...


Congratulations...:lol:

yes, and congratulations to Chris Petersen for leading your team as far as the BCS would allow you*. Too bad we'll just never know if all things had been equal......:boohoo::chuckle:

JCane
01-08-2010, 06:17 PM
yes, and congratulations to Chris Petersen for leading your team as far as the BCS would allow you*. Too bad we'll just never know if all things had been equal......:boohoo::chuckle:

I'm telling you right now...Alabama would beat Boise State like Ike did Tina lol.

Vaark
01-08-2010, 06:21 PM
I'm telling you right now...Alabama would beat Boise State like Ike did Tina lol.

tell that to Utah :)

JCane
01-08-2010, 06:25 PM
tell that to Utah :)

I knew you would fire back with this argument lol. C'mon man. Let's be honest here...Alabama's season ended when they lost to Florida. Alabama had nothing to gain and came out flat and uninspired. Utah's entire program was hinging on that game. It's not hard to see that Alabama was the better team. They send players to the NFL and Utah doesn't. Alabama is just better football. These bowl games are a joke. You can't look at who the better team is. You gotta look at which team is happy to be there and which team wants to be somewhere else. Miami is a better team than Wisconsin all day but we didn't want to be there. Wisconsin had a great season and was thrilled about getting to the Citrus Bowl.

TedSlimmJr
01-08-2010, 06:35 PM
yes, and congratulations to Chris Petersen for leading your team as far as the BCS would allow you*. Too bad we'll just never know if all things had been equal......:boohoo::chuckle:


Which is why I would prefer a playoff.....let Boise go up against Bama and settle it...

However, once Bama knocked Kellen Moore out of the game we'd be right back at square one again with all the "what if"....:lol:

JCane
01-08-2010, 06:36 PM
Which is why I would prefer a playoff.....let Boise go up against Bama and settle it...

However, once Bama knocked Kellen Moore out of the game we'd be right back at square one again with all the "what if"....:lol:

LOL

I'm am 100% opposed to a college football playoff though.

Namor
01-08-2010, 06:37 PM
tell that to Utah :)

Heck, even i'll admitt that Utah team was bad***.
We were uninspired and someother things went down,but they
beat us like a red-headed step-child.
Now that Utah team would beat Boise St. like as JC says Ike
beat Tina. (That's so wrong,but funny)

Vaark
01-08-2010, 06:38 PM
I knew you would fire back with this argument lol. C'mon man. Let's be honest here...Alabama's season ended when they lost to Florida. Alabama had nothing to gain and came out flat and uninspired. Utah's entire program was hinging on that game. It's not hard to see that Alabama was the better team. They send players to the NFL and Utah doesn't. Alabama is just better football. These bowl games are a joke. You can't look at who the better team is. You gotta look at which team is happy to be there and which team wants to be somewhere else. Miami is a better team than Wisconsin all day but we didn't want to be there. Wisconsin had a great season and was thrilled about getting to the Citrus Bowl.

And I knew someone would respond with exactly that excuse just as I realized that the game was over last night with the sidelining of college football's most productive QB in history. Who's to say the nucleus of the same team, had they fallen behind 14-0 wouldn't have reverted back to the poorly coached and inspired 09 bowl team you describe?

But we'll never really know for certain either way, will we? Remember, Alabama squeaked by Lane Kiffen's mediocre team, didn't they - and that's when they were actually trying I believe :up:

JCane
01-08-2010, 06:43 PM
And I knew someone would respond with exactly that excuse just as I realized that the game was over last night with the sidelining of college football's most productive QB in history. Who's to say the nucleus of the same team, had they fallen behind 14-0 wouldn't have reverted back to the poorly coached and inspired 09 bowl team you describe?

But we'll never really know for certain either way, will we? Remember, Alabama squeaked by Lane Kiffen's mediocre team, didn't they - and that's when they were actually trying I believe :up:


You have kids right? Even if you don't, you know how hard it can be sometimes to motivate kids...especially teenagers. I might actually buy what you're saying if Alabama - Utah was an isolated case but I've seen it way too often. It's the reason why USC goes into Ohio State and pounds them but doesn't get up for Washington. I get it. It's understandable but NOT acceptable.

Every single bowl season you have teams that feel slighted by the system and it hangs over their head. It's just like the kid who doesn't want to be at the family renuion. He's whiny and ready to go. He's made his appearance. He ate some pie. He's over it. These kids show up, they don't want to be there, they get their bowl gifts, take some pictures, and then, "Awww **** we still have to play a game. Alright, let's get it over with."

:lol:

TedSlimmJr
01-08-2010, 06:53 PM
And I knew someone would respond with exactly that excuse just as I realized that the game was over last night with the sidelining of college football's most productive QB in history. Who's to say the nucleus of the same team, had they fallen behind 14-0 wouldn't have reverted back to the poorly coached and inspired 09 bowl team you describe?

But we'll never really know for certain either way, will we? Remember, Alabama squeaked by Lane Kiffen's mediocre team, didn't they - and that's when they were actually trying I believe :up:



Rivalry games are always tough.....especially the old SEC rivalry games....

Boise struggled to beat Tulsa and UC Davis......

But we can play this game.....Pick just about any NC team you want and I'll show a game where they lost or almost lost....

Bottom line is Alabama's 13th National Championship is validated any way you want to look at it....the butthurts are the one's that have to deal with it....not the Bama coaches, players, or faithful...

Roll Tide..

Vaark
01-08-2010, 06:53 PM
You have kids right? Even if you don't, you know how hard it can be sometimes to motivate kids...especially teenagers. I might actually buy what you're saying if Alabama - Utah was an isolated case but I've seen it way too often. It's the reason why USC goes into Ohio State and pounds them but doesn't get up for Washington. I get it. It's understandable but NOT acceptable.

Every single bowl season you have teams that feel slighted by the system and it hangs over their head. It's just like the kid who doesn't want to be at the family renuion. He's whiny and ready to go. He's made his appearance. He ate some pie. He's over it. These kids show up, they don't want to be there, they get their bowl gifts, take some pictures, and then, "Awww **** we still have to play a game. Alright, let's get it over with."

:lol:

Yes I do have kids and the oldest has always been, errr, unmotivated and problematic up until recently .. so to some extent I understand what you're saying.. except in this case we're talking about athletes who are there with a mission, and pride and the coaches who supposedly motivate them - not kids who don't care about getting kicked out of a few high schools and making poor decisions that can influence the rest of their lives. Big difference IMO although I get your distinction but am not really buying it. I agree with Slim Jr: set up a seeded top 8 team playoff and let the games begin and chips fall where they may.

Until that happens, the contention that one well coached 14-0 team will dominate another one mostly due to the relative competitiveness of the conferences and caliber of players recruited is merely that since as you point out motivation and readiness is an important part of the equation!

Vaark
01-08-2010, 06:57 PM
Rivalry games are always tough.....especially the old SEC rivalry games....

Boise struggled to beat Tulsa and UC Davis......

But we can play this game.....Pick just about any NC team you want and I'll show a game where they lost or almost lost....

Bottom line is Alabama's 13th National Championship is validated any way you want to look at it....the butthurts are the one's that have to deal with it....not the Bama coaches, players, or faithful...

Roll Tide..

Spin it as you want and crank out those pejoratives, but they're not the only team left standing*

JCane
01-08-2010, 06:59 PM
Motivation and readiness is absolutely an important part of the equation. But I look at football the same way I look at general life around me and my career. It's all the same really. You have parents and kids, coaches and athletes. It's all the same. I can understand a lack of motivation on the football field just like I can understand a lack of motivation in the classroom for a particular subject. But both parties have to meet in the middle and get it done, you're right.

But I hate the idea of a playoff watering down my college football. College football is great because every game matters every week. How many of us skip out on college basketball until March Madness? I know I do. Outside of the Hurricanes, I might watch one college basketball game. It's completely irrelevant basketball. It's good basketball don't get me wrong, but it just doesn't matter as much. I don't want to feel the same way about my college football. I'd be all for a +1 system but this crazy talk of 16 teams, etc....GTFO lol.

TedSlimmJr
01-08-2010, 07:06 PM
Spin it as you want and crank out those pejoratives, but they're not the only team left standing*

Like I said....I would prefer to see the game just to shut some people up finally...

I've always hated the current system and would rather see it playout on the field.....the KIDS deserve that....

But it still wouldn't be enough....someone would find a way to scrutinize that even....once Kellen Moore met the same fate that all the other QB's that faced Alabama this year did....then they'd whine about Bama knocking his *** out of the game and say it wasn't fair...

Bama would probably run for 400 yards on Boise with the Ingram/Richardson combo......Jesus....Ryan Matthews ripped of three 60-70 yard TD runs against them in ONE game...

Bama beat 6 teams that were ranked in the top 10 this season...and none of them were really all that close...

Who'd Boise beat? TCU? Oregon? Who lost to Ohio St....who lost to USC...who lost to Oregon....

It's a vicious circle Vaark...:lol:

Vaark
01-08-2010, 07:10 PM
Motivation and readiness is absolutely an important part of the equation. But I look at football the same way I look at general life around me and my career. It's all the same really. You have parents and kids, coaches and athletes. It's all the same. I can understand a lack of motivation on the football field just like I can understand a lack of motivation in the classroom for a particular subject. But both parties have to meet in the middle and get it done, you're right.

But I hate the idea of a playoff watering down my college football. College football is great because every game matters every week. How many of us skip out on college basketball until March Madness? I know I do. Outside of the Hurricanes, I might watch one college basketball game. It's completely irrelevant basketball. It's good basketball don't get me wrong, but it just doesn't matter as much. I don't want to feel the same way about my college football. I'd be all for a +1 system but this crazy talk of 16 teams, etc....GTFO lol.

But it still matters every week cause only 8 teams can be ranked high enough to make it into the playoffs. If U think about it JCane, whether the season culiminates with a playoff or not, being a top 10 team remains critically important in terms of booster support, credibility with top recruits, coaches resumes/earning potential, and television revenues. In all due respect, I can't see several extra elimination games diluting the interest in the regular season. And can't we say the same about the NFL playoff which begins after more games are played regular season and less worthy teams wedge their way in as wildcard or champions from weak divisions? To me, it's the same difference. And Alabama might embarrass Boise St but is it a bad thing in reinforcing their credibility that they're the only team standing end of season? But then again, if Boise St wins, that just serves to emphasize the B(C)S, helps them in their recruiting and gets them on national TV more often. Either way, isn't that fair?

Vaark
01-08-2010, 07:13 PM
Like I said....I would prefer to see the game just to shut some people up finally...

I've always hated the current system and would rather see it playout on the field.....the KIDS deserve that....

But it still wouldn't be enough....someone would find a way to scrutinize that even....once Kellen Moore met the same fate that all the other QB's that faced Alabama this year did....then they'd whine about Bama knocking his *** out of the game and say it wasn't fair...

Bama would probably run for 400 yards on Boise with the Ingram/Richardson combo......Jesus....Ryan Matthews ripped of three 60-70 yard TD runs against them in ONE game...

Bama beat 6 teams that were ranked in the top 10 this season...and none of them were really all that close...

Who'd Boise beat? TCU? Oregon? Who lost to Ohio St....who lost to USC...who lost to Oregon....

It's a vicious circle Vaark...:lol:

I'm not disagreeing, but as I just said in the above response to JCane, either it solidifies Alabama's claim by leaving them the last team standing, or it underscores the BCS inequities and validates just how extraordinary a Boise State team is considering the competitive and recruiting disadvantages. Everyone wins. What's wrong with that?

Since you mentioned "the kids" it's especially fair to the overachieving Boise St players to have an opportunity to face the best in schools that wanted no part of them, isn't it?

TedSlimmJr
01-08-2010, 07:21 PM
I'm not disagreeing, but as I just said in the above response to JCane, either it solidifies Alabama's claim by leaving them the last team standing, or it underscores the BCS inequities and validates just how extraordinary a Boise State team is considering the competitive and recruiting disadvantages. Everyone wins. What's wrong with that?



Nothing is wrong with it....the BCS is a joke....but that's not Saban's fault...or Greg McElroy's fault...or Mal Moore's fault...or Chris Peterson's fault..

The only thing you can do to validate or solidify or whatever word you choose to use in order to justify the current system is to take the body of work into consideration....and Alabama stands head and shoulders above any team since the inception of this flawed system...

Even a +1 would suffice....but all the excuses the University presidents, NCAA, etc. give as to why it's not an option are at best total bull**** even on it's face..

Vaark
01-08-2010, 07:32 PM
Nothing is wrong with it....the BCS is a joke....but that's not Saban's fault...or Greg McElroy's fault...or Mal Moore's fault...or Chris Peterson's fault..

The only thing you can do to validate or solidify or whatever word you choose to use in order to justify the current system is to take the body of work into consideration....and Alabama stands head and shoulders above any team since the inception of this flawed system...

Even a +1 would suffice....but all the excuses the University presidents, NCAA, etc. give as to why it's not an option are at best total bull**** even on it's face..

So long as March Madness exists, and now there's even talk about expanding the field, then any of the standard NCAA excuses remain transparent hypocritical bull****

Rafiki
01-08-2010, 07:48 PM
yes, and congratulations to Chris Petersen for leading your team as far as the BCS would allow you*. Too bad we'll just never know if all things had been equal......:boohoo::chuckle:

I'm satisfied with where Boise State ended up. They shut a lot of the talking heads up and I feel that they've finally gotten a bit of respect. The Virginia Tech game will be HUGE.

But I still don't buy this "team x would destroy BSU" stuff. I've heard it waaay too many times. Inspired, uninspired, too big, fast, etc, etc, etc.

Ryan Clady was a two star recruit. How does that work?

Namor
01-08-2010, 11:54 PM
I'm satisfied with where Boise State ended up. They shut a lot of the talking heads up and I feel that they've finally gotten a bit of respect. The Virginia Tech game will be HUGE.

But I still don't buy this "team x would destroy BSU" stuff. I've heard it waaay too many times. Inspired, uninspired, too big, fast, etc, etc, etc.

Ryan Clady was a two star recruit. How does that work?

Next season,...with Boise St. coming out ranked real high and
go undefeated,and with the seasons you have put together
I think you should get to play for the BCS.Beat VT..and I think
everything will come together...It would be cool with me to see
Bama and Boise St play for the title next year.