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FinsFanatic777
01-11-2010, 01:21 AM
This is a potential offseason and draft scenario to get Eric Berry, who I think is the most talented and has the highest potential out of all of the draft prospects...

Offseason: (Not all have to be accomplished, but the more the better)
-Sign Antonio Bryant (WR, Tampa Bay) - He's a legit #1 WR that won't need time to develop. He will contribute immediately.
-Sign Ryan Pickett (NT, Green Bay) - Jason Ferguson is getting old... Ryan Pickett is a gap-stopper until we can draft a NT in the later rounds or next year's draft.
-Sign LB's (OLB, ILB). I know I'm vague but we need some ATHLETIC and SMART LB's. Kirk Morrison, Karlos Dansby, Thomas Howard, Shawne Merriman, and others are all viable candidates.

Note that I'm not expecting us to sign all of these players, but the more, the better.


Trades:
-Ronnie Brown + Ted Ginn for a 2nd round pick and 5th round pick. With Antonio Bryant in, Ginn is out. Our "deep threat" is gone, but he can't even catch a wide open pass so it doesn't matter.

Draft:
1. Trade our 1st rounder, and both of our 2nd rounders to move up and select Eric Berry. This is a reasonable deal, and I think teams picking in the top-5 will take moving down a couple of spots two acquire two 2nd round picks, because they will need more than one solid player to rebuild their team. ONLY if necessary, throw in the 3rd round pick, but I'm pretty sure our 1st and two 2nd's will do, especially to move up only a couple spots in the draft.
3. Toby Gerhart (RB, Stanford) - He can pound the rock. He's one of the most durable backs I've ever seen. Not very flashy, but gets the job done and has great work ethic. Doesn't have the greatest upside, but is reliable.
4. Micah Johnson (ILB, Kentucky) - Since we won't be able to sign all of the LB's mentioned, we might as well draft one and help him develop.
5. Dexter McCluster (RB, Mississippi) - He might not last this long due to his breakout performance at the end of the season. If he's not available, then take Noel Devine. Both are undersized RB's, but are explosive. McCluster (or Devine) will serve as a perfect complement to Toby Gerhart (blend of power and speed) as Ronnie and Ricky are nearing (or already at) the end of their careers. We can replace them both in one draft. Also, with McCluster, he's like a mini-CJ Spiller. He's not quite as explosive, but comes at a much cheaper price.

I'm not going to finish the draft because I haven't looked at the late round prospects, but this is a scenario to get Eric Berry...

ticophin
01-13-2010, 03:08 PM
Eric Berry might be there @ 12, stranger things have happened....The ONLY player in this draft, barring a string of weird events, that will not slide, is SUH...
Otherwise, I wouldnt trade up for anybody, our position is good enough @ 12, there are good enough players projected to be there, at one of our MANY positions of need... (Thomas, McClain, Spiller, Bryant, Wetherspoon, Haden, Spikes, etc...)

Nappy Roots
01-13-2010, 03:14 PM
i see a lot of rankings and mocks where Berry makes in close to our pick. if he does, i have a hard time not trading our 3rd to move up for him...

Quadfather
01-13-2010, 03:15 PM
we want to add draft picks, not trade them away. we arent trading up to get berry, and i gaurentee we wont sign antonio bryant. i like malcom floyd better anyways.

DaytonaDolFan13
01-13-2010, 04:06 PM
I have thought about a ton of possibilities to acquire the top 3 in the draft SUH BERRY MCCLAIN. SUH is waaay gone and we CANT afford to trade the entire draft. And then theres some teams that wont wanna trade anyway.

There are some needy teams out there. But when the best player on the board is the #1 ranked prospect, arguably, and its time for the selection... even the QB hungry Redskins would want a chance to draft BERRY

DaytonaDolFan13
01-13-2010, 04:11 PM
our best bet is to trade J PORTER to OAKLAND and our #12 for their #8 and DRAFT MCCLAIN

DaytonaDolFan13
01-13-2010, 04:12 PM
I like the Mid draft choices on GERHART and MICAH JOHNSON

skipp2myloo13
01-13-2010, 04:17 PM
yah, no one whould do ginn and brown for a 2. Picket is resigned. if we ever got 2 , 2's im would trade one to get McClain-before Denver and the other for a 2011 2nd or 1st.

#1dolphinsfan
01-13-2010, 04:45 PM
I dont like the idea of trading our best offensive player and ted ginn for a second and 5th would be a mistake IMO then trading up for an unproven player

JCane
01-13-2010, 04:56 PM
I dont like the idea of trading our best offensive player and ted ginn for a second and 5th would be a mistake IMO then trading up for an unproven player

Not that I agree with what we'd have to give to get into that position, but this is Eric Berry we're talking about.

Eric Berry...THE best player in all of college football.

#1dolphinsfan
01-13-2010, 11:07 PM
Not that I agree with what we'd have to give to get into that position, but this is Eric Berry we're talking about.

Eric Berry...THE best player in all of college football.
Yea thats right COLLEGE football the NFL is a completely diffrent game i like berry but i dont want to trade up to draft him if he falls to us yes draft him but other then that i am not in favor of trading up to draft anyone

Ricky_Fan34
01-13-2010, 11:28 PM
A first and 2 seconds? And Brown contract is up this year correct? Doesn't that mean we cannot trade him since he's not under contract? Or does the CBA crap change all of that? I'm so confused.

JCane
01-14-2010, 12:30 AM
Yea thats right COLLEGE football the NFL is a completely diffrent game i like berry but i dont want to trade up to draft him if he falls to us yes draft him but other then that i am not in favor of trading up to draft anyone

Eric Berry's skill set translates VERY well to the NFL. This kid is the next big thing in the NFL. We're talking Ed Reed/Sean Taylor type player.

ChadHenne
01-14-2010, 12:33 AM
Eric Berry is a god among mortals.

XxfeensterxX
01-14-2010, 01:07 AM
Honestly, Berry COULD come into the NFL and bust, just like any other pick you take in this draft. It just with his skills and tools, its looks like he SHOULD have a great NFL career.

He also happens to possibly be the biggest missing piece on this defense.(Playmaker/FS)

Eric Berry in a Dolphins uniform is a dream, a "very unlikely to happen" dream. haha

greenmiamicat
01-14-2010, 01:25 AM
Eric Berry falling to #12 is not that much of a reach.

FinsFanatic777
01-14-2010, 01:26 AM
Eric Berry will improve our defense drastically... You guys remember Randy Moss making those huge plays against our defense? Instead of opponents' making plays against us, Berry will help us make defensive plays against them..

Eric Berry is the closest thing you can get to a guaranteed NFL stud. He got coached by one of the greatest defensive coordinators in NFL history (Monte Kiffin), so he already has a grasp of what he must do to succeed in the pros.

IMO, it doesn't matter if we give up all "too much" for Eric Berry. If he turns out to be the next Ed Reed, it will be worth it. You have to take the risk when you draft. This goes for those who want Dez Bryant. There have been so many first round receiver flops, and we will have wasted our #12 picks. The draft is all about investments, and Eric Berry is a player you definitely want to invest in.

And just a thought... wasn't it unfortunate for Taylor Mays that the Kiffins are coming after he graduates? I mean, Monte could have taught him a thing or to about coverage and ball skills...

JCane
01-14-2010, 01:41 AM
Eric Berry falling to #12 is not that much of a reach.

Haha yeah right. Any team that passes on Eric Berry should fire their GM immediately.

greenmiamicat
01-14-2010, 01:45 AM
Haha yeah right. Any team that passes on Eric Berry should fire their GM immediately.
The thing is teams might pass on him cause he might do poorly or have worse than expected numbers at the combine.

FinsFanatic777
01-14-2010, 01:54 AM
The thing is teams might pass on him cause he might do poorly or have worse than expected numbers at the combine.

Eric Berry can skip the entire combine and STILL be a top-3 pick. He's that good. Unless he runs a 5.4 40 (takes Al Davis out of the mix), can't lift the bench press bar, and comes to the combine looking like a mini-Terrence Cody, he won't drop regardless of how he performs at the combine.

If we can't get Eric Berry, then Earl Thomas is the answer. He's a little raw compared to Berry, but still has sky high potential. IMO, we must either come out with Berry (hopefully, but probably not), McClain (if Denver picks Bryant), or Thomas (he'll certainly be there when we pick).

JCane
01-14-2010, 01:59 AM
The thing is teams might pass on him cause he might do poorly or have worse than expected numbers at the combine.

As Terrell Owens says, "Get your popcorn ready." When the combine fires up, have a seat, turn on your television and be amazed. Believe me. This kid is legit. He's a game changer. We're talking SCARY.

Vertical Limit
01-14-2010, 02:19 AM
our best bet is to trade J PORTER to OAKLAND and our #12 for their #8 and DRAFT MCCLAIN

I'll do that in a heartbeat. Not sure if Al Davis is that dumb.

#1dolphinsfan
01-14-2010, 02:26 AM
Eric Berry's skill set translates VERY well to the NFL. This kid is the next big thing in the NFL. We're talking Ed Reed/Sean Taylor type player.
I dont care about college some of the greatest colleges arnt good Pros there are no guarantees it is likly that he will be a star in the NFL but you dont know that i dont know that and the coaching staffs dont know that yet he is a very gifted S in college doesnt mean he is going to be a great pro

JCane
01-14-2010, 02:28 AM
Yeah, yeah...Eric Berry will be fine. Bank on it.

CedarPhin
01-14-2010, 04:38 AM
I think Seattle will take him.

CedarPhin
01-14-2010, 04:39 AM
I'll do that in a heartbeat. Not sure if Al Davis is that dumb.

Offer Oakland either a strong-armed QB (maybe drag Ryan Leaf out of retirement), and/or Ted Ginn, and they'd probably do it.

Valandui
01-14-2010, 06:18 AM
I think Seattle will take him.
I'm not so sure. They have been neglecting their OL for years and hopefully they finally realize that Walter Jones can't play more than two games anymore.

Fresh
01-14-2010, 08:04 AM
That draft would be absolutely horrendous, and is not backed by a strong free agent period either. No. No. No.