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Quadfather
01-16-2010, 10:40 PM
If Rolondo Mclain is there, the pick will be rushed to the podium. if not, look for spikes, navarro boweman, sergio kindle, or weatherspoon to be the pick. we could potentionally trade back, but there is no doubt linebacker will be the pick in the 2010 draft.

ChadHenne
01-16-2010, 11:09 PM
I "guarantee" you that the draft isn't until April and you shouldn't "guarantee" anything except that it is "guaranteed" that a draft will take place and that the Dolphins will choose #12.

I'd advise you talk about possibilities at #12 and what fits this team best rather than making "guarantee's" 4 months before the draft.

Quadfather
01-16-2010, 11:16 PM
im just saying..its gonna be a linebacker.

Astrosback
01-16-2010, 11:17 PM
If Rolondo Mclain is there, the pick will be rushed to the podium. if not, look for spikes, navarro boweman, sergio kindle, or weatherspoon to be the pick. we could potentionally trade back, but there is no doubt linebacker will be the pick in the 2010 draft.

Did you guarantee we'd pick Pat White in the early 2nd last year?

C'mon man, you don't even know our FA signings yet.

Let's say before the draft we....

Sign ARI FA ILB Karlos Dansby
Sign OAK FA OLB Thomas Howard
Lose Ronnie to CLE for a 2nd round tender (get CLE's 2nd round pick)
Don't trade-for or sign and of the WR1s (Marshall/Austin/Boldin/etc.)
Can't get a NT b/c Wilfork, Hampton and Franklin are franchised

Then we're looking at Dez, Spiller and Dan Williams at 1.12. Sure, we take McClain as a BPA but the other guys would be higher need picks if that's how our pre-draft offseason goes.

Quadfather
01-16-2010, 11:24 PM
dansby and howard wont hit free agency. look, just come on back after we draft a linebacker.

CAPT.245
01-16-2010, 11:27 PM
I say LB would be a good choice at #12 lets hope Mcalin is around I dont think Spikes would be frist rounder,although his bulid is NFL matreal.... If Dez is gone I say no WR frist round....

Astrosback
01-16-2010, 11:27 PM
dansby and howard wont hit free agency. look, just come on back after we draft a linebacker.

OAK has to keep ILB Kirk Morrison too. They can't franchise them both. One will escape Alcatraz Davis.

Quadfather
01-16-2010, 11:28 PM
howard isnt even that good.

Astrosback
01-16-2010, 11:31 PM
LB isn't a bad bet but it's not a given. If McClain is gone, which he probably will be, then any of the other LB prospects could be considered a reach. Maybe this Jason Pierre-Paul keeps flying up the board but there's so many OLB prospects in the draft (Kindle, Graham, Bowman, Schofield, etc.), it's be tough to justify taking one at 1.12 when a comparable talent could be there in round 2.

As opposed to a guy like Dez or Spiller or Dan Williams who you won't find comparable talent too in round 2.

And at ILB, I think Spikes is too much of a reach at 1.12.

In fact, I hope we don't go LB at 1.12 if McClain is gone.

NorFlaFin
01-16-2010, 11:36 PM
Id wait till after the combine before I'd spurt out any draft picks.

3rdandinches
01-16-2010, 11:58 PM
It's a good call if McCkain is still there but when he won't be then you really have no clue. I'd love to see a trade back if not, there's plenty of options that can help this team so the more picks the better.

I really hope we can get a NT and WR through FA because that opens up some creativity with our pick. Keep those draft "experts" guessing!!!

hooshoops
01-17-2010, 12:20 AM
lol...i love "guarantees" as if you're in the front office or something...

:facepalm:

TimeGap
01-17-2010, 12:43 AM
If McClain is gone you try and trade down,We need more picks in this draft.

j-off-her-doll
01-17-2010, 12:48 AM
If we draft Kindle at #12, we're officially ****ed. Anyone with eyes and half a brain can see that he should not be taken in the 1st - let alone the early 1st.

lbmclean_sj
01-17-2010, 12:50 AM
I'm glad there is alot of talent at LB

but if we snag a S, WR or NT that will be sweet too

SF Dolphin Fan
01-17-2010, 12:53 AM
If Rolondo Mclain is there, the pick will be rushed to the podium. if not, look for spikes, navarro boweman, sergio kindle, or weatherspoon to be the pick. we could potentionally trade back, but there is no doubt linebacker will be the pick in the 2010 draft.

As of right now, prior to free agency, I think that is highly likely. Looking at it this way, I think the Dolphins need to find at least two new starting linebackers so the need is definitely there. It's an area that will be addressed either in free agency, the draft or both. Sean Witherspoon?

Quadfather
01-17-2010, 12:53 AM
ok, so i shouldnt have used the word gaurantee. i just think we will take a linebacker. its the bread and butter pick for parcells. its what we need more than anything else. we took secondary picks last year. this year, we improve our linebacker core.

KillerDolphins
01-17-2010, 01:02 AM
Heres a dark horse for you. DE Jason PierrePaul - With only one year of professional football under his belt can you imagine how much unrealized potential this Bull has? He shares a small part of the spotlight with teammate George Selvie but he just may be the most explosive defensive end in this draft. A JUCO transfer from Kansas and Florida native, JPP began grabbing some of his own headlines against FSU earlier this year. Disrupting the Seminoles backfield all day he didn’t let up after that game and his stock has continued to rise and he has continued to live up to the hype through the Bulls International Bowl dismantling over Northern Illinois. JPP is a prototypical—albeit raw—blend of size, strength, quickness and agility coaches only dream about plugging at the DE spot.


**This kid fits the bill. Could you imagine the combination of him playing DE and LB. The kid has versatility. It would be like drafting 2 players but only getting one. Pierre Paul + Wake coming off the end would be un freaking real. Miami IMO can't go wrong with this kid.

hooshoops
01-17-2010, 01:15 AM
lol... i was probably a bit harsh...while it makes sense that lb is a need and that i can definitely see the regime using the top pick on one i think we should stick with the bpa model at position of need and we'll get a stud player at #12

if a lb is that bpa so be it

Quadfather
01-17-2010, 03:24 PM
ok, i guarantee i dont know what the pick is going to be, but a linebacker would make the most sense. i could see us drafting c.j. spiller too.

uga3406
01-17-2010, 05:05 PM
If Rolondo Mclain is there, the pick will be rushed to the podium. if not, look for spikes, navarro boweman, sergio kindle, or weatherspoon to be the pick. we could potentionally trade back, but there is no doubt linebacker will be the pick in the 2010 draft.


Imho it has to be a LB with the 1st pick no matter where it is taken by trading up or down. Miami has one of the worse lb crew in the league.

enduro
01-17-2010, 10:05 PM
Did you guarantee we'd pick Pat White in the early 2nd last year?

C'mon man, you don't even know our FA signings yet.

Let's say before the draft we....

Sign ARI FA ILB Karlos Dansby
Sign OAK FA OLB Thomas Howard
Lose Ronnie to CLE for a 2nd round tender (get CLE's 2nd round pick)
Don't trade-for or sign and of the WR1s (Marshall/Austin/Boldin/etc.)
Can't get a NT b/c Wilfork, Hampton and Franklin are franchised

Then we're looking at Dez, Spiller and Dan Williams at 1.12. Sure, we take McClain as a BPA but the other guys would be higher need picks if that's how our pre-draft offseason goes.

i nearly choked on my beer when they announced that pick. lol...

Austin Tatious
01-17-2010, 10:37 PM
Obviously, it is too early to tell. But one thing that strikes me is that if you look at Parcells' great teams, the LB corps was the focus in terms of playmaking, athleticism, impact etc. He had 2 number one picks and a 2nd rounder in his linebacker corps, when you look at LT from UNC, Pepper Johnson from Ohio State and Carl Banks from Michigan State. Parcells/Ireland followed a similar strategy in Dallas when you look at Ware, Spencer, Carpenter.

I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted linebackers high this year AND next year. I don't think Parcells and Ireland want run of the mill, mid round guys. I suspect they want difference-makers. Stud. Athletes. Then you trot them out together and have a ferocious defense. You can put a plugger at NT and we need one for sure. Where you need the sheer athleticism is at linebacker. When you have 4 impact linebackers, the offense doesn't know who is coming or going and cannot account for everyone. That's what it will take.

Right now, what do we have at LB? Crowder is a plugger and serviceable but hardly elite. JT has some gas left in the tank, but maybe about a year and he is a free agent. Cam Wake has lots of potential. Ayodele and Porter should be gone. I would have kept Roth. That seems like a mistake unless he is an absolute problem attitude-wise internally.

Bottom line, we need loads of athleticism at LB. It will take high draft picks and it won't be a one year process.

aqua4life
01-18-2010, 01:00 AM
If Rolondo Mclain is there, the pick will be rushed to the podium. if not, look for spikes, navarro boweman, sergio kindle, or weatherspoon to be the pick. we could potentionally trade back, but there is no doubt linebacker will be the pick in the 2010 draft.

Well aint nothing for sure, but i do think Mclain pick is a good pick, but if hes not there, who is our pick, even if dez bryant is on the board we will not pick him, leaves me to my theory, what if CJ spiller is on the board, even though we need a LB i think it would be tough for trifecta to pass on this kid, he is the most explosive prospect in the draft. and with our offensive line it would be scary , and all the concerns with our current RB i would welcome this pick IMO.

miami234ever
01-18-2010, 01:59 AM
OAK has to keep ILB Kirk Morrison too. They can't franchise them both. One will escape Alcatraz Davis.

Howard and Morrison are BOTH RFA's, new CBA or not.

phineffect
01-18-2010, 03:55 AM
The obv pick is Mcclain if he there.. Then im thinking Jerry hughs

Dolfan2364
01-18-2010, 04:09 AM
Just don't get another Eddie Moore:chuckle: