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Pat-London
01-20-2010, 10:48 AM
There is a lot of discussions about trading pics and we all know this organisation values draft pics and doesn’t like to give them up without good reason.

1. Sent a 20084th to Dallas for Fasano and Ayodele… getting 2 starters for 1 pick… quality move.
2. Sent a 2010 5th to KC for Thigpen when Pennington went down.. need, good move
3. Sent a 2009 7th to KC last year for their 7th this year because.. well.. they didn’t like anyone when it came to their pick… love it.. this just reeks of having cahones.

So, like they did last year (if memory serves me correct and feel free to jump in here and correct me) when they traded down in the 2nd and still got Sean Smith. I do feel that there could be a high percentage chance they trade down from the 12th overall.

In terms of BPA and Need… McClain could be very well matched at that spot. If taken before that, it could leave someone like Dez Bryant at 12, a very attractive and cost effective situation for some of the teams picking later in the 1st, who may feel they are a top notch WR away from making a run at playoffs/Super Bowl in 2010. (He could very easily fall to 12 plus with him not having played for some time, could that impact on how he shows at combine/workouts etc.

To get a player of that calibre, would they be willing to trade up swopping firsts and giving up their 2nd? It’s a tough call but possible if they have the inclination they are close to that championship and need a playmaker like Bryant. Maybe we need to add to the deal - Ginn? a 6th?

As history has shown us with inside/middle Linebakers and most recently with Ray Maualuga they tend to drop while the work out warriors and speed demons increase their stock and move up boards throughout the combine and personal workout season.

Possible trading partners could be?

Pittsburgh – Hines Ward is slowing down and their running game has been boosted. D an issue but Big Ben needs a stud along side their other WR SB MVP.

Cincinnatti - With the tragic loss of Chris Henry, last years departure of Houshmanzadeh and Chad 8-5 showing a little decline…?

Patriots – yes I know, unlikely to trade within the division.. but with the “issues” around Randy Moss this year the concern over the healthy return of Welker? And they have 3 picks in round 2

Baltimore – they only have 1 WR on their roster (joke) but it appears that way? To possibly sweeten the deal throw in Ginn and ask for a 6/7th in addition to their 2nd round.

Jets – yes another division foe, but, strong D, Strong running game, big time rookie QB (apparently) and again, just 1 WR…???

So for sake of argument, we are successful in trading down, to late 1st and get an extra 2nd. We could quite possibly fill the 3 main needs on D in the first 2 rounds… it starts up front in my humble opinion so I’ve left FS to priority no 4. Leaving the later part of the draft to go after TE/RB/ additional LB's

Round 1 - Dan Williams
Round 2a - Spikes
Round 2b- Brandon Graham/Ricky Sapp

Thoughts?

ColonelJ
01-20-2010, 10:52 AM
Last year: Sean Smith was our pick; the Pat White pick was from Wash for JT.

I like addressing DT, OLB, and ILB. I don't like getting a DT in the first, unless it's Ndamukong Suh.

Pat-London
01-20-2010, 10:55 AM
Yes but for some reason I have it in my head we also traded down our own 2nd to still get Smith... my mistake, probably still in dream mode..

Dphins4me
01-20-2010, 10:57 AM
I do feel that there could be a high percentage chance they trade down from the 12th overall.
IMO it will depend on who is left on the board more than the deal being offered. If McClain is there I do not expect Miami to trade down.

ColonelJ
01-20-2010, 10:59 AM
I agree with trading down from #12 to pick up a lower 1st and 3rd (depending on value numbers).
I think we can trade Fasano and Bell for high mid rounds. Those players have value relative to others on our team imo.
With a few third and fourths, and low 1st, and two 2nds, we should be set.
I am not sure that any of the low-1st teams will be willing to trade up though, unless there is an intriguing player at 12, like Spiller.

foozool13
01-20-2010, 12:14 PM
Trading down would be the BEST case scenario I think. But again we just have to hope a team falls in love with someone. AS LONG AS WE DON'T TRADE WITH THE JETS OR PATS... I don't mind the Bills tho...they are so bad I feel sorry for them...lol

skipp2myloo13
01-20-2010, 12:32 PM
Trading down would be the BEST case scenario I think. But again we just have to hope a team falls in love with someone. AS LONG AS WE DON'T TRADE WITH THE JETS OR PATS... I don't mind the Bills tho...they are so bad I feel sorry for them...lol

Do you feel bad they beat us?

foozool13
01-20-2010, 01:00 PM
Do you feel bad they beat us?

They may have beaten us...but they are still one of the worst teams in the NFL.
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day!"

DaytonaDolFan13
01-20-2010, 01:15 PM
no we didnt trade down for SEAN SMITH. What we did was get TERRIBLY LUCKY that SMITH was still there. Should've taken C/G MAX UNGER instead of PATT WHITE though...

WE MUST TRADE UP AND GET McCLAIN!! MCCLAIN!!!!!

rrrrphin
01-20-2010, 02:04 PM
A premium prospect that would interest the Dolphins/49ers would have to drop. An elite prospect/decoy would have to be available at 12 for other teams to have the interest to trade up. McClain could even be such a decoy. At the present time my guess is that an elite tackle or Spiller would have to be avaiable @ 12 for a trade up canidate. Maybe Mays can dazzle at the combine as well.

BARF
01-20-2010, 02:29 PM
we will draft a dt in either the 6th or 7th round, that is how bp drafts his dt, ratliff, ferguson, need i say more, we will be going ilb, and olb heavy in this draft, and of course a te, and wr

Dphins4me
01-20-2010, 07:50 PM
no we didnt trade down for SEAN SMITH. What we did was get TERRIBLY LUCKY that SMITH was still there. 2nd (56th overall) round pick in 2009 to Indianapolis for 2nd (61st overall) and 5th (150th overall) round picks in 2009 in draft trade-down




WE MUST TRADE UP AND GET McCLAIN!! MCCLAIN!!!!!
MLB are usually not draft high, so there is a good chance he will be there.

Nick13
01-21-2010, 05:51 AM
I think that if you can trade down and know that you'll get Spikes, Williams or McClain at the spot you trade down to, you do it. If one of those three will be there, I think it's a no-brainer. Getting an additional 2nd would be HUGE, I think if we did we'd look to grab an OLB and a TE. If our 1st day looked something like Dan Williams/Brandon Spikes in the 1st and Jerry Hughes and Rob Gronkowski in the 2nd I think I might have to give the trifecta a huge man hug.

The issue is whether there will be a talent at 12 that another team is going to say: WE HAVE TO HAVE HIM! This is also going to depend on San Francisco's needs since they pick right after us, which will affect the sense of urgency other teams feel about getting in front of them.