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DKphin
01-26-2010, 12:22 PM
They list him as a 4.5/40 guy, but I can assure you that he is faster than 4.5. He is in 4.35-4.4 range. He has good hands, tough and at 6'3"215lbs. he has more than enough size for the position. He is an excellent downfield blocker. Actually sometimes it seems as though he enjoys blocking more than catching the ball. The only thing that scares me, coming from UF, is the recent history of WRs. (Percy had an excellent rookie campaign but he is much more than just a WR.) The offense UF runs does not provide a good training ground for the NFL. But Riley is an intelligent player and is more than willing to put in the effort to improve his game. He will give you all he he's got.:up:http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100126/ARTICLES/100129611/1136?Title=Cooper-giving-up-baseball-for-NFL

BobDole
01-26-2010, 12:28 PM
man this one is tough. great speed, amazing blocker, but i'm not sure about those hands. he dropped so many easy ones this year - so many i though he'd go the baseball route for sure. i wouldn't touch him until the 6th myself.

XxfeensterxX
01-26-2010, 12:38 PM
Where is he projected to go?

HurriPhin
01-26-2010, 02:13 PM
They list him as a 4.5/40 guy, but I can assure you that he is faster than 4.5. He is in 4.35-4.4 range. He has good hands, tough and at 6'3"215lbs. he has more than enough size for the position. He is an excellent downfield blocker. Actually sometimes it seems as though he enjoys blocking more than catching the ball. The only thing that scares me, coming from UF, is the recent history of WRs. (Percy had an excellent rookie campaign but he is much more than just a WR.) The offense UF runs does not provide a good training ground for the NFL. But Riley is an intelligent player and is more than willing to put in the effort to improve his game. He will give you all he he's got.:up:http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100126/ARTICLES/100129611/1136?Title=Cooper-giving-up-baseball-for-NFL

Ha ha, Riley is a moron. I know personally because him and Tebow were my neighbors in Gainesville. The kid's a grade A douchebag (think redneck guido). He has mediocre hands and is a 4.5, high 4.4 range in the 40. He has good speed but is no way a blazer with a mid 4.3. Also he has very limited route running experience that primarily consist of slants, flies and speed outs which are rounded out and don't require a juke and cut move. He'll be lucky to be drafted in the fifth round and won't merit a worthy spot on an NFL roster.

LikeUntoGod
01-26-2010, 02:20 PM
Hmmm, i smell a Hater.........


I still live in Gainesville and I'm glad he decided to come back and is looking to get into the NFL.

Some people are going to be surprised at his speed. He was always talked about here for running with and sometimes outrunning some of our fastest players like Louis Murphy.

JT-forpresident
01-26-2010, 02:41 PM
Riley Cooper stepped up big time for the gators... i don't know about intermediate routes, but he sure can go deep, and work the underneath area...

DKphin
01-26-2010, 03:08 PM
I do not know where you are coming up with bad hands. He is not Lester Hayes with a mound of stickum on his hands. But he is no better or worse than your average WR.

DKphin
01-26-2010, 03:13 PM
Where is he projected to go?
2nd or 3rd rd. according to draftcountdown.

BobDole
01-26-2010, 03:57 PM
I do not know where you are coming up with bad hands. He is not Lester Hayes with a mound of stickum on his hands. But he is no better or worse than your average WR.

you don't recall any of those bombs that tebow tossed where cooper was wide open and it right through his hands? happened too much last year. that worries me b/c tebow throws very catchable balls - no reason why he should've been doing that all year.

nolefin
01-26-2010, 04:00 PM
i'd take him in a heartbeat

DKphin
01-26-2010, 04:16 PM
you don't recall any of those bombs that tebow tossed where cooper was wide open and it right through his hands? happened too much last year. that worries me b/c tebow throws very catchable balls - no reason why he should've been doing that all year.

Strengths:
Excellent natural athleticism --- Great height and bulk --- Soft, reliable hands --- Great body control and ball skills --- Good leaper --- Runs hard after the catch --- Physical --- Very tough --- Not afraid to work the middle of the field --- Plays fast and can get vertical --- Above average blocker --- Smart --- Also a fine special teamer --- Still has some upside.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/WR/Riley-Cooper.php

BobDole
01-26-2010, 04:23 PM
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/WR/Riley-Cooper.php

i'm the biggest gator fan on the planet but i saw him drop many an easy pass last year. very troublesome at the next level if you ask me.

MiamiDolfan85
01-26-2010, 04:32 PM
Cooper is a good talent,but he is exactly like Hartline,except I dont know if he can run better routes than Hartline did at that time,cause hes one of our best right now,and Hartline was an underclassmen then,and was still very more polished than Cooper is now.

Just dont think we need another player whos very ideal to a player we already have.

Pinkboy
01-26-2010, 04:38 PM
Ha ha, Riley is a moron. I know personally because him and Tebow were my neighbors in Gainesville. The kid's a grade A douchebag (think redneck guido). He has mediocre hands and is a 4.5, high 4.4 range in the 40. He has good speed but is no way a blazer with a mid 4.3. Also he has very limited route running experience that primarily consist of slants, flies and speed outs which are rounded out and don't require a juke and cut move. He'll be lucky to be drafted in the fifth round and won't merit a worthy spot on an NFL roster.

Just a second ago he had a horrible drop at the senior bowl. showing on NFL Network now.

He did create decent separation though, and yes he did need to use a juke or two to get open. But dropped the ball that hit him in the chest. Just awful.

ChadHenne
01-26-2010, 04:51 PM
Riley Cooper really had a bright future in baseball. Surprised, but he'll be a serviceable 4th WR for a team most likely. He'll more than likely never reach 1st or 2nd WR ability, but he plays a similar type of game as his former teammate Louis Murphy, so you never know.

LikeUntoGod
01-26-2010, 04:55 PM
And right before it he had a great one handed catch.

One plus for all Gator WRs under Meyer is they are very good blockers or they do not play.

RustyGator
01-26-2010, 05:09 PM
Honestly though, don't you think some of those passes were dropped because of the non-spirals Tebow threw to him? I would imagine those are harder to catch than tight-spirals. To me, I feel that his hands are well above average. I'm actually a little surprised how many of those wobbles he DID catch!

As far as speed....he is fasssst. Who was it this year that he was OUTRUNNING on a long TD? Was it B.James or Rainey maybe (whoever it was, it was someone who has posted a 4.4 before)? People on the team have said he is the fastest white guy they have ever seen. Saying he's 6th round material is ridiculous.

He isn't the #1 WR that the Dolphins are looking for, however. He'll be a fantastic #2 or #3 guy for almost any team.

HurriPhin
01-26-2010, 07:31 PM
As far as speed....he is fasssst.

He isn't the #1 WR that the Dolphins are looking for, however. He'll be a fantastic #2 or #3 guy for almost any team.

Sorry not buying it. Yes he has been clocked as low as 4.37 but he has also been clocked as high as 4.62. Again, his "real" or average time is low 4.5 to high 4.4 range. This kind of speed won't able him to get by corners in the NFL. Also because of his average explosiveness, lack of burst and inexperience in route running he'll also have trouble with precise short to intermediate routes. Although does have ideal size at 6'3" 215#'s he still lacks good overall body strength which leaves him susceptible against bump and run coverage. Yes I'm sure the kid has juked in and out of some routes but he is not shifty or elusive which leads him to round off cuts in his routes. Never said he has bad hands but mediocre pretty much sums up his catching ability. Overall pretty average and average won't cut it in the NFL. #2 reciever? Hell no, #4 IMO and maybe #3 on a sub-par talented team such as the chiefs, browns, raiders etc. Any team that selects him higher than the 4th or 5th round will be mightily disappointed.



*BTW, Like to God I don't think there it is any secret that I'm a gator Hater. :chuckle:

RobertHorry
01-26-2010, 07:39 PM
Cooper has no separation ability. Absolutely ZERO.

hooshoops
01-26-2010, 08:11 PM
he's physical at the los but he's not leaving anybody and he's having issues holding onto the ball...meh

i don't like any of these south wrs for what we're looking for...

hooshoops
01-26-2010, 08:29 PM
2nd or 3rd rd. according to draftcountdown.

holy cow...heck no

WelcomeBack
01-26-2010, 08:51 PM
The receiver impressing me most right now is Price. Gilyard seemed to get a bit better today.