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SR 7
01-31-2010, 03:33 PM
Word is McClain is seen as a 2 down player thats very good against hte run but can't play in space and this is comign from scouts n' such.

I am as high on the Spoon bandwagon as I was on the Willis one several years ago.

I think Miami has a few options here.

1) Drop the big $ on Dansby and use the 12thfor a guy like Graham so there we fill 2 holes.

2) Get a Spoon or McClain and hope we land a SOLB in FA or draft.

3) Get Dansby to play SOLB and Spoon/McClain for ILB.

hooshoops
01-31-2010, 03:34 PM
i saw that also...it's from edgar thompson...reputable??? a journalist??? i don't know

i also saw some other stuff he was saying down there that was WAY off base

TedSlimmJr
01-31-2010, 03:36 PM
The next thing you'll hear is how Dez Bryant only a slot receiver...

Then you'll hear how Gerald McCoy failed a drug test...

Then you'll hear how Joe Haden is only a nickel back...



...the smokescreens and chess matches have begun....

...welcome to the NFL draft....ROOKIES...:lol:

Phinacious
01-31-2010, 03:38 PM
Typical pre-draft smoke :ohno:, Great athlete that will help somebody regardless.

hooshoops
01-31-2010, 03:39 PM
what??? dez bryant is only a slot wr... :lol:

and mardy gilyard is the better of the two... :facepalm:

MiamiDolfan85
01-31-2010, 03:44 PM
Word is McClain is seen as a 2 down player thats very good against hte run but can't play in space and this is comign from scouts n' such.

I am as high on the Spoon bandwagon as I was on the Willis one several years ago.

I think Miami has a few options here.

1) Drop the big $ on Dansby and use the 12thfor a guy like Graham so there we fill 2 holes.

2) Get a Spoon or McClain and hope we land a SOLB in FA or draft.

3) Get Dansby to play SOLB and Spoon/McClain for ILB.
Did these people who put out the "word" even watch his last collegic game?(mind you,I've watch most games from his the past season)

He displayed the ability to read the QB,and adjust in coverage.He also showed that he can turn and run,and has great closing speed.Very agile for someone 6'4",and is a sound tackler.From what I've seen,he spends at least 35-40% in the backfield and LOS.....Really dont agree with these people at all.

TedSlimmJr
01-31-2010, 03:45 PM
Heard Jeff Ireland said that he feels like Joey Haynos can be a pro bowler and create mis-matches for Miami....and that Jermaine Gresham has two left feet....

Just sayin...

SamIam
01-31-2010, 03:46 PM
It's not smoke, it's all true, I have been saying it for a week already, the guy is slow and can't run or cover.

hooshoops
01-31-2010, 03:46 PM
It's not smoke, it's all true, I have been saying it for a week already, the guy is slow and can't run or cover.

edgar...is that you???

SR 7
01-31-2010, 03:47 PM
did anyone say MIAMI scouts said this?

WORD IN MOBILE...you know, last year when our HC were there...BP was still there "SCOUTING"

so clearly its word from other teams not miami.

SamIam
01-31-2010, 03:53 PM
edgar...is that you???

Just keep Drinking the Mcclain Kool-Aid buddy lol

TedSlimmJr
01-31-2010, 03:53 PM
Chet Pinegar is reporting that Earl Thomas is really only 5'5" !!!


http://itsafakelinkstupiddontclickonit.V=//

hooshoops
01-31-2010, 03:54 PM
Just keep Drinking the Mcclain Kool-Aid buddy lol

lol...i'm just messin with ya

hooshoops
01-31-2010, 03:55 PM
Chet Pinegar is reporting that Earl Thomas is really only 5'5" !!!


http://itsafakelinkstupiddontclickonit.V=//

lmao

OrlandoFin
01-31-2010, 03:55 PM
I am not as high on McClain as most, but the same thing was said about Cushing last year as well. McClain is good, is he a difference maker? That I am not sold on not at the #12 pick.

I think he's a 3 down player and in the right system he will be good, but just something about him that doesn't jump out to me. I did like what I saw from Weatherspoon this week. He is rising up my list of wants for Miami. He talks a lot, but he's also a leader out there and that is one thing Miami seems to be missing. I think Spoon can play inside or out. I do think his best position would be a WOLB in a 4-3, but I think he could play any LB spot and do it well.

hooshoops
01-31-2010, 03:56 PM
did anyone say MIAMI scouts said this?

WORD IN MOBILE...you know, last year when our HC were there...BP was still there "SCOUTING"

so clearly its word from other teams not miami.

as far as i'm concerned unless it's got quotes surrounding it it's from edgar...

Clipse
01-31-2010, 09:32 PM
It's not smoke, it's all true, I have been saying it for a week already, the guy is slow and can't run or cover.
:lol::lol::lol::lol: And I ****ed Megan Fox last night. Twice.

SamIam
01-31-2010, 10:05 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol: And I ****ed Megan Fox last night. Twice.

Dude... you gona get worn out jumping up and down Rolando Mcclain's Jockstrap :lol:

DcRy82
01-31-2010, 10:14 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol: And I ****ed Megan Fox last night. Twice.


I kno you're being sarcastic, but no, no you didnt... and you probably didnt **** anybody last night cuz you sat on this forum probably until you're mom came and told you to go to bed.

Clipse
01-31-2010, 10:30 PM
Dude... you gona get worn out jumping up and down Rolando Mcclain's Jockstrap :lol:
Nope. Best ILB prospect in the draft, hands down the best 3-4 ILB prospect in the draft. I think I can manage jumping up and down a while longer.

Clipse
01-31-2010, 10:31 PM
I kno you're being sarcastic, but no, no you didnt... and you probably didnt **** anybody last night cuz you sat on this forum probably until you're mom came and told you to go to bed.
Nice one. It really was. Weren't you on this same exact forum arguing with me at that same time? :tumbleweed: I'm waiting around until I go to BCT what are you doing with your life since it seems so important to you...

skipp2myloo13
01-31-2010, 11:22 PM
When you cant argue against a true fact, what do you do, yes make fun of someone for doing the same thing you are doing! Brilliant, you copywrite that DcRy?

mmikel30
01-31-2010, 11:59 PM
I like Brandon Graham, and Dan Williams a bunch ! I feel they will be future pro bowlers !

ckparrothead
02-01-2010, 12:30 AM
I don't think this is nearly as unbelievable as some of you guys. Rey Maualuga was pegged by some as a two-down linebacker a year ago. If he can get pegged that way, Rolando McClain can get pegged that way. He doesn't have the speed of a Patrick Willis or a Sean Weatherspoon, and even taking speed aside there are moments on the film when you see him try and turn and run and it's like, as Boomer is prone to saying, watching a ferry try and turn. The NFL is more and more trending toward coverage specialists.

This is why it is *HARD* to be worth a top 10 or top 15 pick as an Inside Linebacker. It's not at all easy and EVERY year we see guys pegged for that area at ILB that end up falling down the board. It's a different NFL in many ways than it was 10 or 15 years ago.

We'll just have to see. But I know there are some folks here trying to pretend like this is the most unbelievable and laughable of all things to report, and I'll tell you...it's not. Do I believe it? I don't know. But it's not ridiculous.

mmikel30
02-01-2010, 01:00 AM
:lol::lol::lol::lol: And I ****ed Megan Fox last night. Twice.I'm not sold on McClain and this is why,our ILB's struggled big time covering, and chasing down the backs and tight ends, it always seemed like they were to slow ! And McClain looks slower than them, so i don't see how that helps us get better.

mmikel30
02-01-2010, 01:03 AM
I don't think this is nearly as unbelievable as some of you guys. Rey Maualuga was pegged by some as a two-down linebacker a year ago. If he can get pegged that way, Rolando McClain can get pegged that way. He doesn't have the speed of a Patrick Willis or a Sean Weatherspoon, and even taking speed aside there are moments on the film when you see him try and turn and run and it's like, as Boomer is prone to saying, watching a ferry try and turn. The NFL is more and more trending toward coverage specialists.

This is why it is *HARD* to be worth a top 10 or top 15 pick as an Inside Linebacker. It's not at all easy and EVERY year we see guys pegged for that area at ILB that end up falling down the board. It's a different NFL in many ways than it was 10 or 15 years ago.

We'll just have to see. But I know there are some folks here trying to pretend like this is the most unbelievable and laughable of all things to report, and I'll tell you...it's not. Do I believe it? I don't know. But it's not ridiculous.The NFL is more and more trending toward coverage specialists. well said CK I agree it is a pass happy league with these rules now etc.

RUDEbyallMEANS
02-01-2010, 02:44 AM
Heard Jeff Ireland said that he feels like Joey Haynos can be a pro bowler and create mis-matches for Miami....and that Jermaine Gresham has two left feet....

Just sayin...

:lol:

SR 7
02-01-2010, 05:28 AM
I don't think this is nearly as unbelievable as some of you guys. Rey Maualuga was pegged by some as a two-down linebacker a year ago. If he can get pegged that way, Rolando McClain can get pegged that way. He doesn't have the speed of a Patrick Willis or a Sean Weatherspoon, and even taking speed aside there are moments on the film when you see him try and turn and run and it's like, as Boomer is prone to saying, watching a ferry try and turn. The NFL is more and more trending toward coverage specialists.

This is why it is *HARD* to be worth a top 10 or top 15 pick as an Inside Linebacker. It's not at all easy and EVERY year we see guys pegged for that area at ILB that end up falling down the board. It's a different NFL in many ways than it was 10 or 15 years ago.

We'll just have to see. But I know there are some folks here trying to pretend like this is the most unbelievable and laughable of all things to report, and I'll tell you...it's not. Do I believe it? I don't know. But it's not ridiculous.

Exactly. Everyone said when the WC weekend came, "its all power running teams in there" than came SB time and the best passing teams as usual came out of the conference of late. It is a pass first league...front 7's now a days are just TOO BIG, to STRONG, TO FAST so they can stop a run of 3-4 yards that would have been a run of nearly 8-10 yards probably several years ago. No one thought Rey Rey was going to get past the top 10...dude went 234234 picks later. Vontae Davis was a bonafide top 5 pick before his SR season...he went to us at 25. McClain is riding his stock up, 100% but a lot has to do wiht the great game he put in and everyone saw against Texas and they think b/c of that 1 game he is a DO IT ALL BACK. Go read my posts, I have been on McClains wagon for a very long time but his speed to turn and cover lacks big time and I think CC might even be similar if not a bit quicker than him. CC ran a 4.7 if I recall and I think McClain will run the same time but on the field CC does not move like a 4.7 guy maybe a 4.8 which is how I see McClain doing where as I can see Spoon running a 4.5-6 with ease...he only covered the most explosive cat on the field yesturday in the endzone...something 110% McClain can't do with one especially a TE of Grahams speed or Gonzo from ATL.

Lord Of Miami
02-01-2010, 06:04 AM
I don't think this is nearly as unbelievable as some of you guys. Rey Maualuga was pegged by some as a two-down linebacker a year ago. If he can get pegged that way, Rolando McClain can get pegged that way. He doesn't have the speed of a Patrick Willis or a Sean Weatherspoon, and even taking speed aside there are moments on the film when you see him try and turn and run and it's like, as Boomer is prone to saying, watching a ferry try and turn. The NFL is more and more trending toward coverage specialists.

This is why it is *HARD* to be worth a top 10 or top 15 pick as an Inside Linebacker. It's not at all easy and EVERY year we see guys pegged for that area at ILB that end up falling down the board. It's a different NFL in many ways than it was 10 or 15 years ago.

We'll just have to see. But I know there are some folks here trying to pretend like this is the most unbelievable and laughable of all things to report, and I'll tell you...it's not. Do I believe it? I don't know. But it's not ridiculous.

The thing that really hurt Rey Maualuga is that he was/is a high functioning alcoholic.

He didn't even try and hide it last year.All the GM's and scouts knew.Some super hard core draftnik's knew it but not many.

The " Big O " from wqam talked about it last year but never said the LB'ers name but after Ray got busted he came out with it on the air this past week and said it was Rey Maualuga he was talking about last year..................it blow my mind when i heard that last week.

But it really go's to show the Cincinnati Bengals will draft anyone.

Kdawg954
02-01-2010, 10:40 AM
One thing is clear . . . McClain CLEARY improves the middle of our defense, and at 12, is a very solid pick. It's a need pick that could be the BPA on our board. He starts from day one. He IMO would be the best pick at 12. He has the size that BP covets in his LB's.

He may not be AS good as people are blowing him up to be, but I think he will be a very special LB for Miami.

2413fanphins
02-01-2010, 10:48 AM
Did these people who put out the "word" even watch his last collegic game?(mind you,I've watch most games from his the past season)

He displayed the ability to read the QB,and adjust in coverage.He also showed that he can turn and run,and has great closing speed.Very agile for someone 6'4",and is a sound tackler.From what I've seen,he spends at least 35-40% in the backfield and LOS.....Really dont agree with these people at all.



Boy if that's your opinion,you and DcRy82, could really have some kind of thread going.

I agree with you though. My only knock on him is that he tackles high, once in awile. usually got the guy down, but he'll have to work on that a bit in the pros.

a 2 down backer huh... thats just funny.

ckparrothead
02-01-2010, 03:50 PM
The thing that really hurt Rey Maualuga is that he was/is a high functioning alcoholic.

He didn't even try and hide it last year.All the GM's and scouts knew.Some super hard core draftnik's knew it but not many.

The " Big O " from wqam talked about it last year but never said the LB'ers name but after Ray got busted he came out with it on the air this past week and said it was Rey Maualuga he was talking about last year..................it blow my mind when i heard that last week.

But it really go's to show the Cincinnati Bengals will draft anyone.

I wonder if that's overblown though because after the draft something Jeff Ireland said made it seem like he was very surprised that Rey Maualuga dropped as far as he did. He obviously didn't have priority on taking him at #21, because he knew he needed corners...but it seemed like he couldn't believe how far he dropped.

Pinkboy
02-01-2010, 03:59 PM
I wonder if that's overblown though because after the draft something Jeff Ireland said made it seem like he was very surprised that Rey Maualuga dropped as far as he did. He obviously didn't have priority on taking him at #21, because he knew he needed corners...but it seemed like he couldn't believe how far he dropped.

Maybe Ireland just said that to get the media off his back and shut up about the topic. Because I remember that question/answer session with the media during the draft. And the silly questions the media was asking him was getting on his nerves.

And we all know Ireland is not crazy about the media as he very rarely chooses to talk to them.

I believe the question that was asked was why did Vontae drop in the draft. So that question kind of put him in a corner. And his answer was "why does any player drop", and then he referred to Rey.

Maybe he mentioned "Rey" because he knew that he's a player with a REAL character flaw, and not Vontae... Possibly a case of Ireland just screwing around with the media and their stupid questions.

Just throwing that out there as a possibility. Not that I care if Rey is an alcoholic or not, and chooses to be so stupid to have that life. It's not my problem and it's not a member of my team.

Lord Of Miami
02-01-2010, 04:26 PM
I wonder if that's overblown though because after the draft something Jeff Ireland said made it seem like he was very surprised that Rey Maualuga dropped as far as he did. He obviously didn't have priority on taking him at #21, because he knew he needed corners...but it seemed like he couldn't believe how far he dropped.


Yes i rememeber Jeff saying something like "how does Maualuga fall" but Jeff gets paid to lie so.....

I know Big O was talking about it before the draft last year and saying every scout and GM knew so i'd find it hard to believe the Dolphins didn't know, something about him drinking....but like i said he didn't give the Lb'ers name at the time

But yes Big O may call every 20 something year old guy that likes to drink a few times a week a " high functioning alcoholic ".So it's hard to know really why he fell like he did but that would make alot of since if he was/is a drunk.