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BassFin
02-02-2010, 02:37 PM
From what I've seen on film and read of him, he has great size and concentration and an eye-popping YPC average but he seems to round off his routes and didn't show up in big games.

What do some of you die hard college football fans/ amateur talent evaluators think of this guy? Is he worth a second or third round pick?

#1dolphinsfan
02-02-2010, 03:04 PM
He wont be there in the third and depending who is still on the board i think he would be worth a second

OrlandoFin
02-02-2010, 03:06 PM
Physical, physical, physical. I love Thomas and I feel he is the second best WR in the draft behind Bryant. He is the most physical receiver I have seen since Anquan Boldin. He catches everything in his hands and not his body, excels in run blocking, gets the ball at it's highest point, and knows how to use his 6'3", 229lbs frame to block out defenders like a basketball player would block out for a rebound.

The knock on hi is that he is going to run probably a 4.6 and that he may struggle to get separation in the NFL and those are valid, but if you watch him play he loses no speed when he puts the pads on. He plays much faster than his times speed and as I mentioned above he knows how to use his big frame to his advantage. For a guy that is going to be knocked for speed he had 4, 70+ yard TD's in 2009.

I really want to see this guy in Miami, I believe his style fits PERFECT for the type of offense Miami wants to run.

jim1
02-02-2010, 03:13 PM
Physical, physical, physical. I love Thomas and I feel he is the second best WR in the draft behind Bryant. He is the most physical receiver I have seen since Anquan Boldin. He catches everything in his hands and not his body, excels in run blocking, gets the ball at it's highest point, and knows how to use his 6'3", 229lbs frame to block out defenders like a basketball player would block out for a rebound.

The knock on hi is that he is going to run probably a 4.6 and that he may struggle to get separation in the NFL and those are valid, but if you watch him play he loses no speed when he puts the pads on. He plays much faster than his times speed and as I mentioned above he knows how to use his big frame to his advantage. For a guy that is going to be knocked for speed he had 4, 70+ yard TD's in 2009.

I really want to see this guy in Miami, I believe his style fits PERFECT for the type of offense Miami wants to run.

I like Thomas, but I like Benn more- Benn is faster and more explosive, both have nearly ideal size. Thomas has made a ton of big plays in that GT offense, be he strikes me as a glider. I'm much more concerned about how Thomas will fare against NFL man coverage than how Benn will.

OrlandoFin
02-02-2010, 03:15 PM
I like Thomas, but I like benn better. Benn is faster and more explosive. Thomas has made a ton of big plays in that GT offense, be he strikes me as a glider. I'm much more concerned about how Thomas will fare against NFL man coverage than how Benn will do so.

I agree the speed thing that Benn has is nice, and I haven't seen as much of him as I have Thomas, but there is just something about Thomas to me. He seems to have that "it" factor, besides I love seeing WRs get pancake blocks and I have seen many of those from Thomas.

BassFin
02-02-2010, 04:02 PM
There are two things about Benn is that scare me. 1) His lack of TDs in college...7 in three years! And 2) His 14.0 YPC average. Neither of these lead you to believe he is a big play receiver.

I watched this video on Thomas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nDhGrYAx5g

It starts out with an awesome block that leads to a TD. Throughout the video you see his physicality (stiff arms). He blocks well and doesn't go down with the first hit (doesn't run out of bounds). You also see him using great concentration and snagging the ball out of the air with his hands. His speed doesn't seem great (seems like a long strider) but he plays fast. He also seems to have a knack for anticipating where the defender will be after he catches the ball.

Of course these were mostly highlights and you can't see him getting off the line so I'm not sure how well he does that.

WRs are the hardest to predict. I've seen so many come out over the years that I was so sure would be great, only to see them out of the league in 2 or 3 years.

Morey161
02-02-2010, 04:02 PM
Would love to add that kid if we could get him the 2nd round if we have not addressed NT and ILB yet.

Chubby
02-02-2010, 04:22 PM
I have a serious man crush on this kid this year, I honestly think if he played College Ball almost anywhere else in the country, he would be a serious contender for best reciever in this draft.

I would love if the dolphins were able to pick him up. I do not think he is making it past the second round though, I dont know if the dolphins will pull the trigger so early in the 2nd, I would :).
Chubbs

OrlandoFin
02-02-2010, 04:25 PM
I have a serious man crush on this kid this year, I honestly think if he played College Ball almost anywhere else in the country, he would be a serious contender for best reciever in this draft.

I would love if the dolphins were able to pick him up. I do not think he is making it past the second round though, I dont know if the dolphins will pull the trigger so early in the 2nd, I would :).
Chubbs

Is Chubby getting a chubby over Bey-Bey...LOL I'm with ya bro, serious mancrush on Thomas. I love me some Bey-Bey. I hate to say the comparison but dagum he reminds me of TO, just without the Diva status.

#1dolphinsfan
02-02-2010, 04:30 PM
There are two things about Benn is that scare me. 1) His lack of TDs in college...7 in three years! And 2) His 14.0 YPC average. Neither of these lead you to believe he is a big play receiver.

I watched this video on Thomas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nDhGrYAx5g

It starts out with an awesome block that leads to a TD. Throughout the video you see his physicality (stiff arms). He blocks well and doesn't go down with the first hit (doesn't run out of bounds). You also see him using great concentration and snagging the ball out of the air with his hands. His speed doesn't seem great (seems like a long strider) but he plays fast. He also seems to have a knack for anticipating where the defender will be after he catches the ball.

Of course these were mostly highlights and you can't see him getting off the line so I'm not sure how well he does that.

WRs are the hardest to predict. I've seen so many come out over the years that I was so sure would be great, only to see them out of the league in 2 or 3 years.
14 YPC isnt to bad the 7 TD in 3 years isnt good but 14 ypc isnt to bad IMO

hooshoops
02-02-2010, 04:48 PM
and demarious thomas had the advantage of everyone and their mother loading up to try and stop that triple option attack....

he darn well better make plays vs 1 on 1 coverage with no safety help over the top...on those rare instances where they actually put the ball in the air...

that...the rawness of him as a nfl route runner and his speed are all questions for me...

he's the wildcard

Clipse
02-02-2010, 05:24 PM
3rd favorite WR in the draft behind Bryant and Benn. As stated before, arguably the most physical WR in the draft. Certainly the type that would take 2-3 years to develop, but someone that could develop into a pretty good WR.

FINS4LIFE16
02-02-2010, 10:21 PM
I like him. He's big and very physical

DcRy82
02-02-2010, 10:38 PM
3rd favorite WR in the draft behind Bryant and Benn. As stated before, arguably the most physical WR in the draft. Certainly the type that would take 2-3 years to develop, but someone that could develop into a pretty good WR.

If we draft another WR, I think most people would agree that we need someone who the staff thinks will contribute right away. We've all pulled our hair out waiting for Ginn to develop (or never develop however you look at it). I personally cant handle another project at WR, and I dont think this offense gets better until we get someone who can be a 100 catch, 1000+ yard WR.

SF Dolphin Fan
02-02-2010, 11:04 PM
Physical, physical, physical. I love Thomas and I feel he is the second best WR in the draft behind Bryant. He is the most physical receiver I have seen since Anquan Boldin. He catches everything in his hands and not his body, excels in run blocking, gets the ball at it's highest point, and knows how to use his 6'3", 229lbs frame to block out defenders like a basketball player would block out for a rebound.

The knock on hi is that he is going to run probably a 4.6 and that he may struggle to get separation in the NFL and those are valid, but if you watch him play he loses no speed when he puts the pads on. He plays much faster than his times speed and as I mentioned above he knows how to use his big frame to his advantage. For a guy that is going to be knocked for speed he had 4, 70+ yard TD's in 2009.

I really want to see this guy in Miami, I believe his style fits PERFECT for the type of offense Miami wants to run.

The physicalness of his game definitely stands out. I love how he breaks tackles and how many yards he gets after the catch. His hands also appear very physical when he catches the ball. I think he falls somewhere between Terrell Owens and Oronde Gadsden.

Clipse
02-03-2010, 12:15 AM
If we draft another WR, I think most people would agree that we need someone who the staff thinks will contribute right away. We've all pulled our hair out waiting for Ginn to develop (or never develop however you look at it). I personally cant handle another project at WR, and I dont think this offense gets better until we get someone who can be a 100 catch, 1000+ yard WR.
Who's to say he can't contribute right away? With the way he plays, he can certainly contribute right away. WR's rarely blow the league away their rookie and sophomore years. Thomas is the type who will contribute immediately and progress each year. After a few years in the league though, he can be a very good WR. No rookie in this draft is going to be a 100+ catch 1000 yard receiver right away, so you should probably look elsewhere for your WR needs to be honest. This offense will get better with playmakers, something we don't have a single one of.

OrlandoFin
02-03-2010, 09:10 AM
Who's to say he can't contribute right away? With the way he plays, he can certainly contribute right away. WR's rarely blow the league away their rookie and sophomore years. Thomas is the type who will contribute immediately and progress each year. After a few years in the league though, he can be a very good WR. No rookie in this draft is going to be a 100+ catch 1000 yard receiver right away, so you should probably look elsewhere for your WR needs to be honest. This offense will get better with playmakers, something we don't have a single one of.

Agree, his style is similar to Boldin in his physical nature, could you imagine if they draft Thomas and end up working out a trade for Boldin and Thomas learn the pro game behind him for a couple of years. Boldin is the leader this young WR group needs. He is a workout warrior and will just make this team better. I think he can be had for a thrid, or maybe a Porter for Boldin trade straight up.

PhinsTD
02-03-2010, 10:09 PM
Porter probably has zero trade value...we need to expect that.

Thomas is a beast physically, but coming from that offense, he's going to need time as has been pointed out.

DcRy82
02-04-2010, 12:06 AM
3rd favorite WR in the draft behind Bryant and Benn. As stated before, arguably the most physical WR in the draft. Certainly the type that would take 2-3 years to develop, but someone that could develop into a pretty good WR.

You said that he's "certainly the type that would take 2-3 years to develop"... So that's what I was referring to. Also, I said we need someone "the staff thinks will contribute right away".. I never said Thomas wouldnt or couldnt.. Just saying I hope our FO would take someone that they believe WILL contribute right away instead of another project like pat turner or ted ginn (cam's pick, i kno). I like Thomas, i'd take him in the 3rd for sure, or a late 2nd if we picked one up. I understand it's hard to know exactly what someone is trying to say thru typing but i wish you'd quit looking at my posts in the most pessimistic way possible. i'm a positive person bro.

Clipse
02-04-2010, 01:19 AM
You said that he's "certainly the type that would take 2-3 years to develop"... So that's what I was referring to. Also, I said we need someone "the staff thinks will contribute right away".. I never said Thomas wouldnt or couldnt.. Just saying I hope our FO would take someone that they believe WILL contribute right away instead of another project like pat turner or ted ginn (cam's pick, i kno). I like Thomas, i'd take him in the 3rd for sure, or a late 2nd if we picked one up. I understand it's hard to know exactly what someone is trying to say thru typing but i wish you'd quit looking at my posts in the most pessimistic way possible. i'm a positive person bro.
Wasn't looking at your post in a pessimist way. Probably should of been more clear with the intentions of that post. I was clearing up what I meant about 2-3 years to develop. Probably should of said "This guy could be a very good WR in 2-3 years".

DcRy82
02-04-2010, 01:48 AM
Gotcha. Yea, I agree, I like the guy a lot. He's the kind of WR we dont have, and the kind we need. We dont have anyone who can go up and get the ball like he can. He reminds me of Dre Johnson with the ball in his hands. I dont think very many people have the hands dre has, but DT does have very good hands and is very physical. And obviously he can block being that he played in that GT offense. I think if he played in a pro style offense he could be a first round pick (if he could have shown that he can run good routes).. Obviously his route running and ability to get seperation will determine if he can be a #1 or not.

Clipse
02-04-2010, 02:16 AM
Gotcha. Yea, I agree, I like the guy a lot. He's the kind of WR we dont have, and the kind we need. We dont have anyone who can go up and get the ball like he can. He reminds me of Dre Johnson with the ball in his hands. I dont think very many people have the hands dre has, but DT does have very good hands and is very physical. And obviously he can block being that he played in that GT offense. I think if he played in a pro style offense he could be a first round pick (if he could have shown that he can run good routes).. Obviously his route running and ability to get seperation will determine if he can be a #1 or not.
I agree about the blocking and ability to go up for the ball. Hell I'd say he's probably the best blocking WR in the draft. What intrigues me the most is his physicality. Probably the most physical WR in the draft. That's what we need. A WR not afraid to throw people off him for extra yards. Very similar to Anquan Boldin in that aspect. This guy would be an instant starter on our team imo.

mmikel30
02-04-2010, 02:56 AM
I have a serious man crush on this kid this year, I honestly think if he played College Ball almost anywhere else in the country, he would be a serious contender for best reciever in this draft.

I would love if the dolphins were able to pick him up. I do not think he is making it past the second round though, I dont know if the dolphins will pull the trigger so early in the 2nd, I would :).
Chubbs

I watched ga. tech's bowl game and there QB can't throw for crap all he did was run the whole game and was very inefective running and pat white like at throwing but D thomas to me has the tools to be a pro bowler with some coaching.

Clipse
02-04-2010, 08:47 AM
Demaryius Thomas has become my favorite player in the whole draft. This guy is going to be something special at the next level. The way he fights for YAC, the way he goes up for the ball and usally, comes away with it, his excellent blocking... He was the only player on his team with double digit receptions. He was getting double, triple teamed with a bad QB and still dominating. What better way to make a physical team even tougher than to add the most physical WR in the draft right? Tired of WR's who do nothing after the catch but get tackled. Would be a perfect fit for this team with his skillset and blocking. By perfect fit I mean instant starter and OROY of course.

Chubby
02-04-2010, 09:44 AM
Unfortunately if the Dolphins dont pick him up with our early 2nd round pick, he wont be avaialble in the third. Unless some miraculous trade happens that we pick up an additional mid round 2nd.

FinaticalOne
02-04-2010, 07:15 PM
This player is everything the Trifecta is hoping Pat Turner will turn out to be. I like Thomas a lot, he is the type of WR we don't have on the field yet. His ability to catch every pass with his hands is something you don't see too many WR do. I love physical players, so as far as Im concerned, there is not much to dislike about him.