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Troysif
02-05-2010, 12:55 AM
You knew the thread would be back again this year. Last offseason was so long ago so i don't remember. But are we in line for any compensation draft picks this year?

Dex
02-05-2010, 01:09 AM
Don't think so. Even when we lost Renaldo Hill and Andre Goodman in FA, we signed Jake Grove, Joe Berger, Gibril Wilson and Eric Green (yuck!!!), so it's highly unlikely we could have any compensatory pick.

newlownorder
02-05-2010, 01:50 AM
If we signed more FA than we lost then most likely we will not receive picks.

rrrrphin
02-05-2010, 03:30 PM
Someone did a more formal analysis on a previous post. They formulated that Miami might get a 7th after all is said and done. Even though we have signed more free agents, Wilson was actually let go the Raiders, we cut Green before he even played a snap, and Goodman and Hill both contributed significantly to Denver...this may tip the scale to a possible late comp pick.

With Pennington looking to extend his career for at least one more year, I wonder what we might get comp wise if someone actually scoops him up?

gfran
02-10-2010, 11:34 AM
Remember that the only FA signings that count are those of players whose contract was simply expired, either if the were lost or acquired. Any player cut or waived by another team does not count in this formula.

That said, in 2009 the Phins signed: Jake Grove, Joe Berger & Eric Green.
Gibril Wilson does NOT count because he was let go by the Raiders.

In 2009, other teams singed the following players who were Phins FAs:
Andre Goodman, Renaldo Hill (Denver) and Al Johnson (NE).
David Martin does not count because he was waived and nobody signed him up.

Now, we have got a tie here, 3 lost against 3 singed. However other factors enter the equation, like snaps played, position on the depth chart, value of contract and there's also a date where the player has got to be still with the team, to enter the equation.

Although I do not know all these details, I *think* that a late compensatory pick could be a fair forecast, like a 7th or hopefully a 6th.

Now, is it too much to hope for the next Tom Brady? or Yeremiah Bell? or even the next Donald thomas? The next Lex Hilliard would be pretty fine too, if you think what it may be on the flip side .....

Nublar7
02-17-2010, 12:47 PM
Someone did a more formal analysis on a previous post. They formulated that Miami might get a 7th after all is said and done. Even though we have signed more free agents, Wilson was actually let go the Raiders, we cut Green before he even played a snap, and Goodman and Hill both contributed significantly to Denver...this may tip the scale to a possible late comp pick.

With Pennington looking to extend his career for at least one more year, I wonder what we might get comp wise if someone actually scoops him up?
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/f75/opinion-i-am-projecting-a-7th-round-compensatory-pick-for-miami-267816.html

ckparrothead
02-17-2010, 01:19 PM
I also believe we'll be in line for a late round compensatory pick. The key is that incoming free agents include both Joe Berger and Jake Grove, while outgoing free agents include Andre Goodman and Renaldo Hill.

To me, that's like losing two starters and gaining one, because Berger only started and played games where Grove could not...whereas Goodman and Hill started next to one another all year long. Technically we lost 31 starts versus a gain of 16 starts, according to NFL.com's player pages.

This should be enough IMO to get a pick in exchange for the loss of Renaldo Hill, and considering the contract and the 16 start shortage...I would have to say that's either a 6th or 7th round pick.

ckparrothead
02-17-2010, 01:22 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/f75/opinion-i-am-projecting-a-7th-round-compensatory-pick-for-miami-267816.html

It sounds like you have everything captured well. I didn't realize that if you're aiming for a net value loss, you can only get a 7th round pick. Would be nice if Berger's salary didn't count for some reason.

JT-forpresident
02-17-2010, 01:40 PM
I also believe we'll be in line for a late round compensatory pick. The key is that incoming free agents include both Joe Berger and Jake Grove, while outgoing free agents include Andre Goodman and Renaldo Hill.

To me, that's like losing two starters and gaining one, because Berger only started and played games where Grove could not...whereas Goodman and Hill started next to one another all year long. Technically we lost 31 starts versus a gain of 16 starts, according to NFL.com's player pages.

This should be enough IMO to get a pick in exchange for the loss of Renaldo Hill, and considering the contract and the 16 start shortage...I would have to say that's either a 6th or 7th round pick.


can't we count vonnie hollyday too ? or was he cut ?

ckparrothead
02-17-2010, 01:41 PM
Cut.

matt11390
02-17-2010, 02:58 PM
We have 3 6th round picks and two 7 rounders. Not all of those are via trades. I believe at least one 6 and 7 is a comp. I read that recently but can't remember where.

ckparrothead
02-17-2010, 03:14 PM
That's impossible. Compensatory picks have not been awarded yet.

Troysif
02-17-2010, 03:31 PM
We have 3 6th round picks and two 7 rounders. Not all of those are via trades. I believe at least one 6 and 7 is a comp. I read that recently but can't remember where.
Since when do we have 3 6th round Picks? I was only aware of 2 6th Round Picks.

baseballcb95
02-17-2010, 06:10 PM
According to NFL.com they have been.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-round/dt-by-round-input:7

Check out and tell me if I am misreading the picks. At the end of rounds 6 & 7 are comp picks.

:bobdole: idk if it was an accident but that the 2009 draft.

matt11390
02-17-2010, 06:11 PM
:bobdole: idk if it was an accident but that the 2009 draft.

You are right. I'm a class idiot :crazy:

baseballcb95
02-17-2010, 06:18 PM
You are right. I'm a class idiot :crazy:

Haha no worries, i was like "Wahhhhh?" this mock has us trading down to 24 and taking Vontae Davis?

Nublar7
02-17-2010, 08:10 PM
Since when do we have 3 6th round Picks? I was only aware of 2 6th Round Picks.We do in fact have three 6th round picks. We have our own pick, we got one from Washington for the Jason Taylor trade and we got one from Kansas City for the Alleman/Nduwke Trade.

These are our draft picks(Pick number in the round is in parenthesis):

First round (12)
Second round (11)
Third round (9)
Fourth round (12)
Sixth round (4) - From Kansas City
Sixth round (5) - From Washington
Sixth round (10)
Seventh round (5) - From Kansas City
Seventh round (12)

Troysif
02-17-2010, 09:27 PM
We do in fact have three 6th round picks. We have our own pick, we got one from Washington for the Jason Taylor trade and we got one from Kansas City for the Alleman/Nduwke Trade.

These are our draft picks(Pick number in the round is in parenthesis):

First round (12)
Second round (11)
Third round (9)
Fourth round (12)
Sixth round (4) - From Kansas City
Sixth round (5) - From Washington
Sixth round (10)
Seventh round (5) - From Kansas City
Seventh round (12)

Thanks i completely forgot about the Jason Taylor pick. :thanks:

matt11390
02-18-2010, 11:09 AM
We do in fact have three 6th round picks. We have our own pick, we got one from Washington for the Jason Taylor trade and we got one from Kansas City for the Alleman/Nduwke Trade.

These are our draft picks(Pick number in the round is in parenthesis):

First round (12)
Second round (11)
Third round (9)
Fourth round (12)
Sixth round (4) - From Kansas City
Sixth round (5) - From Washington
Sixth round (10)
Seventh round (5) - From Kansas City
Seventh round (12)

Thanks. I thought I was going :crazy: again. I knew we did.