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pnayan
03-17-2010, 11:53 AM
40 times...

Joe Haden runs a 4.43 (Please Browns pick him)

Dunlap - 4.62

Spikes - 5.01 and 5.0 (OUCH!!!)

*Cant post links yet...

thejetssuck
03-17-2010, 11:59 AM
Man, that really sucks for Spikes!!!

bryan
03-17-2010, 12:06 PM
Both Haden and Dunlap ran almost .2 faster than at the combine so the track may be fast. That means Spikes at the combine would likely be near a 5.2. Wow!

PhinsTD
03-17-2010, 12:07 PM
I put zero stock in most players who gain large amounts of speed at their pro days over the combine. The combine is a controlled environment the same as their peers, with electronic timing, and a pro day isn't.

In this case though, it's widely accepted Haden had poor technique in his running due to using his father as his coach for the runs. Still, I imagine his adjusted time will come in closer to a 4.5 when you account for surface and hand timing.

52CANES
03-17-2010, 12:23 PM
Both Haden and Dunlap ran almost .2 faster than at the combine so the track may be fast. That means Spikes at the combine would likely be near a 5.2. Wow!

NFL Network was saying that even though its grass, the florida track is known to be a fast track.

Chubby
03-17-2010, 12:27 PM
NFL Network was saying that even though its grass, the florida track is known to be a fast track. It is, very very tight short Grass.
chubbs

TXFinFan
03-17-2010, 12:46 PM
Say hello to the 3rd round Mr. Spikes.

rrrrphin
03-17-2010, 12:52 PM
I read that hernandez blazed and put up good lifts. 4.60 range and 30 up @ 225
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Haden-improves-40-time-Spikes-runs-slowly.html

The depth at TE is unreal this year. 3/4 round can bring an impact player.

LikeUntoGod
03-17-2010, 01:14 PM
I live in Gainesville and it is cold (for us) and raining so the field is wet.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/live-blog-tebow-pro-day-at-florida-031710

Updated Mar 17, 2010 1:04 PM ET
Gainesville, Fla.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2010/03/031710NFLTebowSWPI_20100317110613_185_15-1.jpg It is arguably the biggest Pro Day in NFL history.

That's because Florida Gators superstar Tim Tebow will finally unveil his new and improved throwing motion before NFL scouts.

Follow the announcements and rumors here in our NFL free-agency blog.

Since you can't be there for the action, Scout.com's Gators insider Bob Redmond is blogging live on the day's festivities.

For more inside info on the University of Florida, check out more at Florida.scout.com (http://florida.scout.com/).

11:57 a.m. -- Markihe Anderson slipped in the 3-cone with a sloppy field from too much work. He came up limping.

11:46 a.m. -- Cooper, Hernandez, Wondy, Nelson, Doe and Mirkihe are all doing 3-cone drill now.

11:43 a.m. -- Looks like Tebow is done. Crowd is chanting "First Round Draft Pick!"

11:40 a.m. -- There hasn't been a misfire yet. Scouts ask for more work, and boom! Another perfect bomb to Hernandez.

11:36 a.m. -- Tebow to Hernandez on deep seam route ... Great route by Aaron ... Mike Holmgren had a great seat for that throw.

11:35 a.m. -- Tebow hits Cooper on a 45 yard post ... Cooper never breaks stride. Then, right away, he hits Nelson on the same route but opposite side of the field ... in stride.

11:33 a.m. -- Crowd appears to be 3,000 now, and they are cheering every throw. Tebow is really hitting the long out routes. I have to think this is an impressive performance following up a great combine showing.

11:29 a.m. -- He has been on the money on every throw so far. He's hitting the receivers in stride. Tebow is clearly holding the ball higher. He hasn't changed his delivery so much but he's not looping down to his waist on his throws. Tom Coughlin is front and center to watch.

11:28 a.m. -- Tim has obviously done a lot of work on his backpedal, and he looks like a total different player dropping back. Very quick with his feet. Very impressive.

11:25 a.m. -- And so it begins. Tebow is already doing very well in his throws. I heard one scout say "Wow" when Tebow improvised a run after a fake pass rush and threw on a dime 30+ yards down the field.

11:22 a.m. -- Reflects Scout.com Recruiting analyst Bill Green: "My first introduction to Tim Tebow came when a player I covered in recruiting, current Kentucky quarterback Mike Hartline, was going through the recruiting process. Hartline attended a camp on the East Coast, and when he returned he told me 'I just saw the greatest athlete I've ever seen, and he happens to be a quarterback. All the other quarterbacks at the camp were in awe of Tebow. I've never seen anything like this guy at quarterback.' Turns out Mike Hartline was right on the money in his evaluation."

11:15 a.m. -- It's almost Tebow Time. Hearing sirens in the background, and the clouds are starting to part.

11:10 a.m. -- Scout.com NFL analyst Adam Caplan on Tebow: "Everyone wants to know where Tebow ends up. I could see the Eagles (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/philadelphia-eagles/67058) having some interest in him, especially if they end up trading Michael Vick (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/michael-vick/69083). If they do, Tebow could slide into Vick's role in the offense.

"The New England Patriots have never been shy about using players at different positions, and so I could see them having some interest in running Tebow at TE or H-Back.

"There's always been discussion about the Jacksonville Jaguars having some interest due to their proximity to Gainesville and the built-in Tebow fan base."

11:03 a.m. -- Major Wright is the biggest ham on the team. He has a beaming smile, and loves to sing, dance and rap. Back at the Army Game four years ago, it was easy to entice him to interview fellow 5-star recruits, Aaron Hernandez and Deonte Thompson, and as you can imagine, it was a great interview session.

11:00 a.m. -- Tebow is warming up with receiver Riley Cooper, who decided not to run today. Tebow will have a compliment of receivers to work with today in Cooper, David Nelson and Brandon James.

10:58 a.m. -- Elvis has entered the building. Tebow stepped out to explosive applause from the sizable crowd which continues to grow in size.

10:57 a.m. -- Moving into DB drills now with Joe Haden, Major Wright, Markihe Anderson and Wondy Pierre-Louis. LB, OL, and DL drills are now over.

10:55 a.m. -- CB Wondy Pierre-Louis is out here today and not many know that Gator assistant Chuck Heater had to spend a great deal of time in Haiti to make sure the paperwork on Wondy went through so he could stay in the States after high school. Wondy's family made it safely through the earthquake that devastated his hometown.

10:52 a.m. -- Responds Chris Steuber: "Tebow's mechanics are crucial to me. I want to see him take snaps under center, be quick in his 5-7 step drops and display balance. If his footwork is sound, his deliver and accuracy will be fine. But if he's off-balance, he will force the issue and revert back to his elongated release and lack accuracy."

10:50 a.m. -- Speaking of Tebow, it's hard to believe that the first guy to win the Heisman as a sophomore and led the nation in passing efficiency is also the guy that has to change everything about his motion. Tebow is a winner.

10:47 a.m. -- Still no Tebow, who is always first on the field and last off of it. I think these gloomy clouds will part if he would just come outside.

10:44 a.m. -- I can remember driving to Shelby, NC to visit Spikes and his mom after he signed with Florida. Mom lived in a nice, but little apartment, and was just beaming that her son had signed with the Gators. Spikes will most assuredly buy mom a house, and work to fund freeing his brother who he feels is falsely imprisoned for a crime. Spikes has always been a great leader at Florida and fantastic with the media when he had the chance. A real straight shooter.

10:35 a.m. -- No one seems to have a great sense of exactly how fast Brandon Spikes ran today. I've heard anywhere from 4.85 to 5.01. With his playing ability, anywhere in the 4.9s should guarantee him a place in the first round.

10:33 a.m. -- David Nelson may have secured a draft spot today with his 4.4 40. Nelson was quiet most of his career because he wasn't thrown the ball. The former Army All-American stands 6-5 and is over 200 lbs, and will be a big target for QBs.

10:31 a.m. -- The knock on Dunlap so far has been immaturity, but you have to remember he's only 20. There's a reason for the immaturity.

10:25 a.m. -- Says Chris Steuber, Scout.com's NFL Draft analyst: "I've confirmed that every NFL team will be present at Florida's Pro Day today. I've talked with over a dozen scouts and they're all interested to see his new release and if he can sustain it throughout the workout. Five scouts have basically said, 'If he reverts back to his old elongated motion, he will drop significantly on our draft board.' "

10:20 a.m. -- Former Gator assistant and current Ravens DC Greg Mattison is here. He knows these guys well.

10:13 a.m. -- Tebow fact: Tim has changed the face of Florida football for sure, even as it applies to media and fans. Rules regarding access were changed because of him. He would show up a half an hour before practice to take care of autographs and after practice he'd meet with hundreds of adoring fans. It's always been a madhouse around Tim and nobody could have handled it better.

10:08 a.m. -- Still no Tebow as they set up for position drills. Tebow has certainly drawn the biggest crowd ever for a pro day, and it continues to grow ...

10:02 a.m. -- David Nelson clocks a very impressive 4.5 4.

10:00 a.m. -- Jermaine Cunningham will not run today. Spikes runs a 5.0 flat on his second run.

9:58 a.m. -- Nearly all teams are represented in Gainesville today to see if Tebow can be Te-Pro. There are about 1,000 people now in the stands, and about that many on the field with players, coaches, scouts and media.

9:55 a.m. -- Brandon Spikes runs an unofficial 5.01.

9:54 a.m. -- Joe Haden runs a 4.43.

9:51 a.m. -- Little known fact: My dad was Tim Tebow's barber, so anyone who was sure he would end up at Alabama four years ago was fooling themselves. Everyone knows you tell your barber everything!

9:50 a.m. -- Carlos Dunlap with a 4.62.

9:49 a.m. -- Markihe Anderson runs in the 4.5 range. Dustin Doe in the 4.7s.

9:40 a.m. -- Unofficial 40 times for Joe Haden (4.42) and Hernandez (4.56).

9:38 a.m. -- Just found out that TE Aaron Hernandez threw up 30 reps of 225 in the bench. Carlos Dunlap bested his combine rep number by one by getting to 22. Tim Tebow did not lift.

9:34 a.m. -- I see David Nelson and Markihe Anderson. Looks they are about to run the 40, and it certainly isn't the best of conditions. I have a feeling Tebow may not doing anything but throw today.

9:28 a.m. -- It's drizzly and about 55 degrees. There's about 500 people in the stands ... mostly to see Tebow. There will be 17 other participants working out today as well including Gator great Eric Wilbur (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/eric-wilbur/640263) from a few years ago.

9:25 a.m. -- The NFL scouts are coming out of the locker room, so it appears that the 2010 Florida Gator Pro Day is about to get started.

JCfinfan
03-17-2010, 01:20 PM
Say hello to the 3rd round Mr. Spikes.

Agree. I have been thinking this for a while. Especially now that he ran a 5.0 on a "fast track" 2 down player IMO

JCfinfan
03-17-2010, 01:25 PM
I live in Gainesville and it is cold (for us) and raining so the field is wet.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/live-blog-tebow-pro-day-at-florida-031710

Updated Mar 17, 2010 1:04 PM ET
Gainesville, Fla.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2010/03/031710NFLTebowSWPI_20100317110613_185_15-1.jpg It is arguably the biggest Pro Day in NFL history.

That's because Florida Gators superstar Tim Tebow will finally unveil his new and improved throwing motion before NFL scouts.

Follow the announcements and rumors here in our NFL free-agency blog.

Since you can't be there for the action, Scout.com's Gators insider Bob Redmond is blogging live on the day's festivities.

For more inside info on the University of Florida, check out more at Florida.scout.com (http://florida.scout.com/).

11:57 a.m. -- Markihe Anderson slipped in the 3-cone with a sloppy field from too much work. He came up limping.

11:46 a.m. -- Cooper, Hernandez, Wondy, Nelson, Doe and Mirkihe are all doing 3-cone drill now.

11:43 a.m. -- Looks like Tebow is done. Crowd is chanting "First Round Draft Pick!"

11:40 a.m. -- There hasn't been a misfire yet. Scouts ask for more work, and boom! Another perfect bomb to Hernandez.

11:36 a.m. -- Tebow to Hernandez on deep seam route ... Great route by Aaron ... Mike Holmgren had a great seat for that throw.

11:35 a.m. -- Tebow hits Cooper on a 45 yard post ... Cooper never breaks stride. Then, right away, he hits Nelson on the same route but opposite side of the field ... in stride.

11:33 a.m. -- Crowd appears to be 3,000 now, and they are cheering every throw. Tebow is really hitting the long out routes. I have to think this is an impressive performance following up a great combine showing.

11:29 a.m. -- He has been on the money on every throw so far. He's hitting the receivers in stride. Tebow is clearly holding the ball higher. He hasn't changed his delivery so much but he's not looping down to his waist on his throws. Tom Coughlin is front and center to watch.

11:28 a.m. -- Tim has obviously done a lot of work on his backpedal, and he looks like a total different player dropping back. Very quick with his feet. Very impressive.

11:25 a.m. -- And so it begins. Tebow is already doing very well in his throws. I heard one scout say "Wow" when Tebow improvised a run after a fake pass rush and threw on a dime 30+ yards down the field.

11:22 a.m. -- Reflects Scout.com Recruiting analyst Bill Green: "My first introduction to Tim Tebow came when a player I covered in recruiting, current Kentucky quarterback Mike Hartline, was going through the recruiting process. Hartline attended a camp on the East Coast, and when he returned he told me 'I just saw the greatest athlete I've ever seen, and he happens to be a quarterback. All the other quarterbacks at the camp were in awe of Tebow. I've never seen anything like this guy at quarterback.' Turns out Mike Hartline was right on the money in his evaluation."

11:15 a.m. -- It's almost Tebow Time. Hearing sirens in the background, and the clouds are starting to part.

11:10 a.m. -- Scout.com NFL analyst Adam Caplan on Tebow: "Everyone wants to know where Tebow ends up. I could see the Eagles (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/philadelphia-eagles/67058) having some interest in him, especially if they end up trading Michael Vick (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/michael-vick/69083). If they do, Tebow could slide into Vick's role in the offense.

"The New England Patriots have never been shy about using players at different positions, and so I could see them having some interest in running Tebow at TE or H-Back.

"There's always been discussion about the Jacksonville Jaguars having some interest due to their proximity to Gainesville and the built-in Tebow fan base."

11:03 a.m. -- Major Wright is the biggest ham on the team. He has a beaming smile, and loves to sing, dance and rap. Back at the Army Game four years ago, it was easy to entice him to interview fellow 5-star recruits, Aaron Hernandez and Deonte Thompson, and as you can imagine, it was a great interview session.

11:00 a.m. -- Tebow is warming up with receiver Riley Cooper, who decided not to run today. Tebow will have a compliment of receivers to work with today in Cooper, David Nelson and Brandon James.

10:58 a.m. -- Elvis has entered the building. Tebow stepped out to explosive applause from the sizable crowd which continues to grow in size.

10:57 a.m. -- Moving into DB drills now with Joe Haden, Major Wright, Markihe Anderson and Wondy Pierre-Louis. LB, OL, and DL drills are now over.

10:55 a.m. -- CB Wondy Pierre-Louis is out here today and not many know that Gator assistant Chuck Heater had to spend a great deal of time in Haiti to make sure the paperwork on Wondy went through so he could stay in the States after high school. Wondy's family made it safely through the earthquake that devastated his hometown.

10:52 a.m. -- Responds Chris Steuber: "Tebow's mechanics are crucial to me. I want to see him take snaps under center, be quick in his 5-7 step drops and display balance. If his footwork is sound, his deliver and accuracy will be fine. But if he's off-balance, he will force the issue and revert back to his elongated release and lack accuracy."

10:50 a.m. -- Speaking of Tebow, it's hard to believe that the first guy to win the Heisman as a sophomore and led the nation in passing efficiency is also the guy that has to change everything about his motion. Tebow is a winner.

10:47 a.m. -- Still no Tebow, who is always first on the field and last off of it. I think these gloomy clouds will part if he would just come outside.

10:44 a.m. -- I can remember driving to Shelby, NC to visit Spikes and his mom after he signed with Florida. Mom lived in a nice, but little apartment, and was just beaming that her son had signed with the Gators. Spikes will most assuredly buy mom a house, and work to fund freeing his brother who he feels is falsely imprisoned for a crime. Spikes has always been a great leader at Florida and fantastic with the media when he had the chance. A real straight shooter.

10:35 a.m. -- No one seems to have a great sense of exactly how fast Brandon Spikes ran today. I've heard anywhere from 4.85 to 5.01. With his playing ability, anywhere in the 4.9s should guarantee him a place in the first round.

10:33 a.m. -- David Nelson may have secured a draft spot today with his 4.4 40. Nelson was quiet most of his career because he wasn't thrown the ball. The former Army All-American stands 6-5 and is over 200 lbs, and will be a big target for QBs.

10:31 a.m. -- The knock on Dunlap so far has been immaturity, but you have to remember he's only 20. There's a reason for the immaturity.

10:25 a.m. -- Says Chris Steuber, Scout.com's NFL Draft analyst: "I've confirmed that every NFL team will be present at Florida's Pro Day today. I've talked with over a dozen scouts and they're all interested to see his new release and if he can sustain it throughout the workout. Five scouts have basically said, 'If he reverts back to his old elongated motion, he will drop significantly on our draft board.' "

10:20 a.m. -- Former Gator assistant and current Ravens DC Greg Mattison is here. He knows these guys well.

10:13 a.m. -- Tebow fact: Tim has changed the face of Florida football for sure, even as it applies to media and fans. Rules regarding access were changed because of him. He would show up a half an hour before practice to take care of autographs and after practice he'd meet with hundreds of adoring fans. It's always been a madhouse around Tim and nobody could have handled it better.

10:08 a.m. -- Still no Tebow as they set up for position drills. Tebow has certainly drawn the biggest crowd ever for a pro day, and it continues to grow ...

10:02 a.m. -- David Nelson clocks a very impressive 4.5 4.

10:00 a.m. -- Jermaine Cunningham will not run today. Spikes runs a 5.0 flat on his second run.

9:58 a.m. -- Nearly all teams are represented in Gainesville today to see if Tebow can be Te-Pro. There are about 1,000 people now in the stands, and about that many on the field with players, coaches, scouts and media.

9:55 a.m. -- Brandon Spikes runs an unofficial 5.01.

9:54 a.m. -- Joe Haden runs a 4.43.

9:51 a.m. -- Little known fact: My dad was Tim Tebow's barber, so anyone who was sure he would end up at Alabama four years ago was fooling themselves. Everyone knows you tell your barber everything!

9:50 a.m. -- Carlos Dunlap with a 4.62.

9:49 a.m. -- Markihe Anderson runs in the 4.5 range. Dustin Doe in the 4.7s.

9:40 a.m. -- Unofficial 40 times for Joe Haden (4.42) and Hernandez (4.56).

9:38 a.m. -- Just found out that TE Aaron Hernandez threw up 30 reps of 225 in the bench. Carlos Dunlap bested his combine rep number by one by getting to 22. Tim Tebow did not lift.

9:34 a.m. -- I see David Nelson and Markihe Anderson. Looks they are about to run the 40, and it certainly isn't the best of conditions. I have a feeling Tebow may not doing anything but throw today.

9:28 a.m. -- It's drizzly and about 55 degrees. There's about 500 people in the stands ... mostly to see Tebow. There will be 17 other participants working out today as well including Gator great Eric Wilbur (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/eric-wilbur/640263) from a few years ago.

9:25 a.m. -- The NFL scouts are coming out of the locker room, so it appears that the 2010 Florida Gator Pro Day is about to get started.

Good info, thanks for the post. Check out the note at 10:35. Fail

LikeUntoGod
03-17-2010, 01:32 PM
Mike Nolan was here BTWay...................


NFL personnel in attendance:
Cleveland Browns general manager Tom Heckert
Cleveland Browns head coach Eric Mangini
Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin
Carolina Panthers head coach John Fox
New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin
Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Raheim Morris
Miami Dolphins defensive coordinator Mike Nolan
Jacksonville Jaguars offensive line coach Andy Heck

hooshoops
03-17-2010, 01:32 PM
that funky stance at the combine played into hadens run there...he's a mid 4.4's guy

plenty fast enough...

j-off-her-doll
03-17-2010, 02:40 PM
That Spikes time is disturbing, but he never looked that slow on tape. If he's there in the 3rd - pending one what we've addressed and still have to address - he'll be difficult to pass. Pretty much impossible to pass in the 4th.

I still like him better for our D than McClain - based on tape.

TedSlimmJr
03-17-2010, 03:34 PM
That Spikes time is disturbing, but he never looked that slow on tape. If he's there in the 3rd - pending one what we've addressed and still have to address - he'll be difficult to pass. Pretty much impossible to pass in the 4th.

I still like him better for our D than McClain - based on tape.


Spikes could gouge his OWN eyeballs out and have his leg amputated and you would still like him better than McClain....:lol:....we get it...

And yes....Spikes DID look that slow on tape...which is why I tried to tell people all along that McClain was faster......but when you're watching it with the type of descriminatory mindset, there's a lot of things that will fly right under your nose...

I told you guys last year when he was a junior and hyped as a top 10 pick that he wasn't worth a 1st round pick....I still like him as a prospect...

Namor
03-17-2010, 03:46 PM
That Spikes time is disturbing, but he never looked that slow on tape. If he's there in the 3rd - pending one what we've addressed and still have to address - he'll be difficult to pass. Pretty much impossible to pass in the 4th.

I still like him better for our D than McClain - based on tape.

Yes..we need more of the slow dumb ones,not the smart,bigger,and
quicker ones.

52CANES
03-17-2010, 03:47 PM
IMO... Spikes UPSIDE is Channing Crowder.

LikeUntoGod
03-17-2010, 04:06 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=5003533

Tebow unveils new throwing motion

TedSlimmJr
03-17-2010, 04:19 PM
Tebow still has a long ways to go before he's completely comfortable with these changes.....he's still a project...

His natural tendancy under pressure and when live bullets are flying is going to be to revert back to old habits (mechanics).....it's human nature...

To me it looks like he's come a long ways from what he looked like in college...but it's going to take time and reps, reps, reps, to truly make the "transformation"....

Not to mention...he still has to learn how to go through progressions and read defenses quickly.....anticipate coverage and make quick, decisive throws.....combined with a complete re-tooling of his throwing motion and footwork...

Anticipation and reading coverages quickly was as much of a concern as his mechanics were...but the mechanics has to be fixed NOW....I have him as a 3rd round project at quarterback....with rare intangibles...

Aqua and Orange
03-17-2010, 04:35 PM
I was rooting for Tim Tebow...simply so his stock could get elevated enough for a team to take him and allow someone better to drop to us. :)

NAPPS
03-17-2010, 04:47 PM
so does Haden go before 12?

LikeUntoGod
03-17-2010, 05:16 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d81700dd4/Coaching-Tebow


Mike Mayock on Tebow's new throwing motion.

52CANES
03-17-2010, 05:44 PM
so does Haden go before 12?

I think he could be the first DB off the board now... how often does the best safety get drafted before the best cb?

PhinsTD
03-17-2010, 06:21 PM
Tebow can do his throwing motion all he wants in shorts and tee's with no pass rush, but when the bullets start to fly, he'll revert back to his old form.

I've seen way too many times with QB's who try to "alter" their throwing motion at this late stage in their career.

ckparrothead
03-17-2010, 06:34 PM
What I noticed about Spikes on tape is not necessarily that he looked slow, but rather there weren't many opportunities for him to look fast that he went ahead and showed off...and at some point you've got to wonder why. I don't think there's been much question that McClain is faster, the problem is, they're both slow.

RustyGator
03-17-2010, 08:54 PM
So are all Florida guys' stocks dropping now, as posted in another thread?? Tebow did phenomenal...not surprising. Haden actually properly trained for the run and ran fast...'cause he's fast...not surprising. Hernandez is a freakin stud...not surprising. Dunlap...wow, didn't realize he was that fast. Spikes, however, was a disappointment. I still think he's a very good player and to say that Crowder is his upside is ridiculous...and as I've said before, lazy.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...Tebow isn't lasting past the 2nd round. I put a 25% chance of 1st round draft status as well. He got invited to the Draft night...so that's a good sign. Ya'll hate all you want. He's a hard worker, has amazing football intelligence, and wants to win more than anyone out there...oh, and he's actually a decent human being...which too many Americans root against. Look at how far he's come in the last 5 weeks after being pushed into changing his motion. I'd hate to see him on the Dolphins...but I think he'll be a tremendous asset at QB for any team that drafts him.

LikeUntoGod
03-18-2010, 04:01 PM
B.Spikes has 4 interceptions for TDs.

It seems to me that he plays fairly well in games.

LikeUntoGod
03-18-2010, 10:31 PM
Hernandez is a game changer. Urban Meyer called him the "Percy Harvin" of last year's team.

He is strong for his size but was not asked to block much as a TE but is a good open field blocker (all of Meyer's WRs etc are or you do not play).

He ran the same 40 as Hartline did. He will be a real mismatch in coverage.

TedSlimmJr
03-18-2010, 10:56 PM
I've always thought Hernandez could be deadly in an offense like Indy's or the Saints....especially with Peyton...Brees..etc........even New England....I think he ends up with one of these teams..