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PhinPhan910
03-29-2010, 12:26 AM
I just figured i'd throw this out there to everyone.

This is all based on the philosophy of drafting the BPA at a position of need, and considering everything else.

First, I will break up our team in 3 sections.

Positions we need to address:
FS
OLB
NT

Positions we should address but don't have to:
HB
TE
WR


Positions we should add more depth to:
OT
OG (if we trade smiley)
LB
CB

Once you take that to mind, you will figure, we need 3 positions: NT, FS, and OLB. Once we get those three, we should try to get a WR, a HB, and a TE. If we get all that done, we should get some more depth at the o-line, at linebacker, and at the corner position.

Now, we only have 1 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd. So we should fill NT, OLB, and FS with those three.

Here is the deepness of the positions:

FS: Very shallow positon, goes with eric berry and earl thomas. After that there is a HUGE dropoff.

OLB: About 2 rounds deep. You got graham, kindle, pierre-paul, hughes, worilds, etc.

NT: Pretty deep. You have dan williams, terrance cody, and cam thomas. After that is a bit of a dropoff to a bunch of other guys.

Now, is the actual (mock) draft.
Since FS only has 2 very good prospects, you almost have to draft one with the first pick.
We could pass on FS and draft an OLB, because there are some good ones and you know bill parcells loves his linebackers, so maybe its a brandon graham type.
Or we could go with a NT, but im not a fan of dan williams and he is terrible value at 12.
I would get a FS, because it is very shallow at the positon.
Berry has a very slim chance of getting to 12, so we have to go with earl thomas.

1st pick: Earl Thomas, S, Texas

After that, we can go with either OLB or NT. NT has some good prospects in the later rounds, but OLB only has a few, so i'd go with an OLB.
Jerry Hughes has about a 50/50 chance of making it, and if he does, we draft him.

2nd pick: Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU

NT is all thats left and there is a good chance Cam Thomas be waiting right for us. If not, we could get Torell Troup or Linval Joseph.

3rd pick: Cam Thomas, NT, North Carolina

You get the idea. Go ahead and use ur imagination to finish the draft. It took a while to write this, so i've decided to retire. Maybe i'll finish it at a later date.

TheBow305
03-29-2010, 12:33 AM
I agree about Thomas. But IMO, it would be Demaryius Thomas.

LikeUntoGod
03-29-2010, 12:50 AM
I mostly agree except you are forgetting about 3 good safeties that can be good NFL players. And I think they are few really good OLBs and even less ILBs this year.

And I think a TE is more important then a WR or HB.

Doctor Phibes
03-29-2010, 01:25 AM
Fine if Thomas is a genuine top 10 pick but if you're just picking him because of the big drop off at FS after him then I think that's where you end up reaching and making bad picks. It's no longer BPA and more like only player available

Personally, drafting a safety early in the first round (especially one that's arguably a bit on the small side) makes me nervous because the position has such a high injury rate

LikeUntoGod
03-29-2010, 01:58 AM
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010S.php


Nate Allen, FS, South Florida - Scouting Report (http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010nallen.php)
Height: 6-0. Weight: 207.
Projected 40 Time: 4.47.
Combine 40 Time: .
Benchx225: 16. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2010): 2.
1/14/10: One of the more underrated prospects in this class, Nate Allen garnered 85 tackles, four interceptions and four pass deflections in 2009.


Morgan Burnett, FS, Georgia Tech
Height: 6-1. Weight: 209.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.42.
Benchx225: 16. Vertical: 39.5.
Projected Round (2009): 2.
3/16/10: Morgan Burnett had a great Pro Day, running a 4.42 and leaping 39.5 inches.

1/12/10: Morgan Burnett has declared for the 2010 NFL Draft. Burnett is a likely second-round pick, but with all the other Yellow Jackets jumping into the NFL, Burnett made the right move.


Chad Jones, S, LSU
Height: 6-2. Weight: 225.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59.
Combine 40 Time: 4.57.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.57.
Benchx225: 9. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2010): 2-3.


Reshad Jones, FS/SS, Georgia
Height: 6-1. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
Combine 40 Time: 4.54.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.52.
Benchx225: 24. Vertical: 39.5.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
3/3/10: Reshad Jones ran well (4.54) and had a nice vertical (39.5) at the Combine. I also thought he looked very good in the drills.


Major Wright, FS, Florida
Height: 6-0. Weight: 204.
Projected 40 Time: 4.48.
Combine 40 Time: 4.49.
Benchx225: 14. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.
1/12/10: Major Wright has declared for the 2010 NFL Draft. Wright could be selected early on Day 3, so it's pretty puzzling why he would declare in the same draft with Eric Berry and Earl Thomas.

3/13/09: In his sophomore year, Major Wright broke up six passes and logged four interceptions (one for a touchdown).

8/6/08: As a true freshman, Major Wright started seven games and recorded 67 tackles. He qualified for the Freshman All-American second team.

Robert Johnson, FS, Utah
Height: 6-2. Weight: 203.
Projected 40 Time: 4.55.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.58.
Benchx225: 13. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2010): 4-5.
1/14/10: Robert Johnson struggled in 2008, but rebounded well as a senior, earning a spot on the All-Mountain West First Team. Johnson had a whopping six interceptions and six pass deflections to go along with 70 tackles and four TFL.


Darrell Stuckey, S, Kansas
Height: 5-11. Weight: 204.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
Combine 40 Time: 4.49.
Benchx225: 17. Vertical: 39.5.
Projected Round (2010): 2-3.
3/3/10: I thought Darrell Stuckey looked really great in the drills. He also ran an impressive 4.49 and leaped a 39.5-inch vertical.

1/14/10: An All-Big XII honorable mention, Darrell Stuckey had 93 tackles, 3.5 TFL and only two passes broken up. He also returned 14 kicks on a 25.6 average.

5/27/09: Darrell Stuckey had a great junior campaign, registering 98 tackles, seven passes broken up, five picks and 4.5 TFL.

23EmilioVasquez
03-29-2010, 02:22 AM
I think we will go

best player avalibale at FS OLB WR (we will either bring in Dez or not draft a WR until later)

we will wait on NT until either the second or third depending who is there

dolfan_101
03-29-2010, 02:44 AM
I think we will go

best player avalibale at FS OLB WR (we will either bring in Dez or not draft a WR until later)

we will wait on NT until either the second or third depending who is there

:thanks::thanks::thanks:

PhinPhan910
03-29-2010, 04:52 AM
Fine if Thomas is a genuine top 10 pick but if you're just picking him because of the big drop off at FS after him then I think that's where you end up reaching and making bad picks. It's no longer BPA and more like only player available

Personally, drafting a safety early in the first round (especially one that's arguably a bit on the small side) makes me nervous because the position has such a high injury rate

I agree and it might be a good idea to trade down just a few picks to get earl thomas, but it is tough to consider trades. Also, earl thomas is a good enough player to be picked at 12 and I would be happy if we picked him.

Roman529
03-29-2010, 05:21 AM
I am ok with Earl Thomas...I have a feeling it will either be Sergio Kindle or Earl Thomas unless someone else drops down to us. You never know what a team in front of us like the Raiders will do (remembr Darius Heyward-Bey who was considered a late first rounder who went really early).

Here is who I think we are looking at in order:
1. Kindle, Earl Thomas, Graham, Spiller
2. D. Thomas, R. Jones, Worilds
3. C. Thomas, T. Troup

LikeUntoGod
03-29-2010, 07:33 AM
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010S.php


Nate Allen, FS, South Florida - Scouting Report (http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010nallen.php)
Height: 6-0. Weight: 207.
Projected 40 Time: 4.47.
Combine 40 Time: .
Benchx225: 16. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2010): 2.
1/14/10: One of the more underrated prospects in this class, Nate Allen garnered 85 tackles, four interceptions and four pass deflections in 2009.


Morgan Burnett, FS, Georgia Tech
Height: 6-1. Weight: 209.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.42.
Benchx225: 16. Vertical: 39.5.
Projected Round (2009): 2.
3/16/10: Morgan Burnett had a great Pro Day, running a 4.42 and leaping 39.5 inches.

1/12/10: Morgan Burnett has declared for the 2010 NFL Draft. Burnett is a likely second-round pick, but with all the other Yellow Jackets jumping into the NFL, Burnett made the right move.


Chad Jones, S, LSU
Height: 6-2. Weight: 225.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59.
Combine 40 Time: 4.57.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.57.
Benchx225: 9. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2010): 2-3.


Reshad Jones, FS/SS, Georgia
Height: 6-1. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
Combine 40 Time: 4.54.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.52.
Benchx225: 24. Vertical: 39.5.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
3/3/10: Reshad Jones ran well (4.54) and had a nice vertical (39.5) at the Combine. I also thought he looked very good in the drills.


Major Wright, FS, Florida
Height: 6-0. Weight: 204.
Projected 40 Time: 4.48.
Combine 40 Time: 4.49.
Benchx225: 14. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.
1/12/10: Major Wright has declared for the 2010 NFL Draft. Wright could be selected early on Day 3, so it's pretty puzzling why he would declare in the same draft with Eric Berry and Earl Thomas.

3/13/09: In his sophomore year, Major Wright broke up six passes and logged four interceptions (one for a touchdown).

8/6/08: As a true freshman, Major Wright started seven games and recorded 67 tackles. He qualified for the Freshman All-American second team.

Robert Johnson, FS, Utah
Height: 6-2. Weight: 203.
Projected 40 Time: 4.55.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.58.
Benchx225: 13. Vertical: .
Projected Round (2010): 4-5.
1/14/10: Robert Johnson struggled in 2008, but rebounded well as a senior, earning a spot on the All-Mountain West First Team. Johnson had a whopping six interceptions and six pass deflections to go along with 70 tackles and four TFL.


Darrell Stuckey, S, Kansas
Height: 5-11. Weight: 204.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
Combine 40 Time: 4.49.
Benchx225: 17. Vertical: 39.5.
Projected Round (2010): 2-3.
3/3/10: I thought Darrell Stuckey looked really great in the drills. He also ran an impressive 4.49 and leaped a 39.5-inch vertical.

1/14/10: An All-Big XII honorable mention, Darrell Stuckey had 93 tackles, 3.5 TFL and only two passes broken up. He also returned 14 kicks on a 25.6 average.

5/27/09: Darrell Stuckey had a great junior campaign, registering 98 tackles, seven passes broken up, five picks and 4.5 TFL.

P.S. Other good FSs in this draft. IMO, we can take a OLB first, then look FS, TE and NT.

MadDog 88
03-29-2010, 09:49 AM
I agree LUG. There are quality FS's that can be had in 2-3. I think OLB is the priority. It is a critical need. We can't go into the season with Anderson and Wake as the starters.

cobbs321
03-29-2010, 10:57 PM
FS: Very shallow positon, goes with eric berry and earl thomas. After that there is a HUGE dropoff.








Nate Allen is up there with Berry and Thomas. maybe not by athleticism or ballhawk but Nate Allen will be a good FS in a year or two if we took him. Most underated FS this draft.

kwill29
03-29-2010, 11:13 PM
If we take kindle im going to /wrist

j-off-her-doll
03-29-2010, 11:30 PM
Before Mayock blew him up, E. Thomas was the most underrated player in the draft. He and Berry are special talents.

There are only four players I'd be happy drafting at 12: Berry, Thomas, Bryant, and Spiller.

If we go with one of the OLB's - and there are exceptional prospects at the position - I won't complain (unless it's Kindle).

If we go with a WR other than Bryant (Thomas or Benn), I'll be pissed but hopeful.

If we go D. Williams, I'll break something.