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3rdandinches
04-05-2010, 07:58 PM
Everyone knows that the history of this FO is to select LB and Trench players in the first round. I want to look at some of the positions we could select outside of those and why or why not we would pull the trigger.


Many people believe NT makes the most sense to be our choice at 1(12). Not a sexy pick but one that the 3/4 needs to be as effective as possible. Looking at our FO's history they do not normally take a NT in the early rounds of a draft and have had excellent success when drafting NT's later on.

D.Williams NT: I don't view D.Williams to be a special talent at NT and I don't believe he's not much different then C.Thomas who could be had in the 2nd, L.Joesph (3rd or later) or if T.Cody fell to us in the 2nd. So the only way I see a NT getting selected here would be if one came in as a great prospect like Suh is at DT and certainly D.Williams is not that therefore doesn't give the FO enough reason to change their ways.


WR, another position the FO historically likes to take later on and has had a good amount of success doing so.

D.Bryant WR: Dez is a special talent that has some debateable issues off the field. Dez is easily the best WR in the draft talent wise, a top ten talent that justifies BPA at 12. He could very well be a number 1 receiver that makes an impact right away thrusting our offense into high gear. Thus allowing the FO to go outside their comfort zone and select a WR at 12 overall.


RB, another position the FO historically likes to take later on and again has good success doing so.

CJ.Spiller RB/KR: CJ like Dez brings a big impact right away to our team, he's not only a big play specialist as a RB but also a top notch return man. CJ brings 21 TD's of 50 or more yards which is an unreal stat and not something any mid round pick could ever bring to the table. Let's not forget that BP's favourite position while coaching was the return man in which he would personally spend time coaching them up. CJ's selection would give us a big back, a return specialist and the ability to trade R.Brown bringing even more talent aboard from this draft.

E.Berry/E.Thomas FS: I like many others believe if Berry falls then there is no debate on who gets selected at 12. Berry may very well be the best FS prospect to come along in a very long time. If E.Thomas is still available he too brings a special talent to any team that is lucky enough to grab him and Jacksonville may very well do that right in front of us. The question I have about FS is, is the drop off from E.Thomas to the next group of FS's that big to justify selecting him at 12? If not then waiting for N.Allen etc...in the 2nd or later makes more sense but if the FO feels there is too big of a difference then E.Thomas becomes a real choice at 12.

So in conclusion I think NT isn't even on the radar of potential 1st round picks. I do believe because Dez, CJ and Thomas are very special players that they jump to the top of our big board where their positional value normally would be much lower. CJ becomes the 1st choice of the three if we have a trade with Ronnie in our back pocket. Otherwise Dez is the guy because I don't see the FO picking CJ without a pre-draft agreement to trade Ronnie because it would really lower his trade value. Thomas is the third choice if the two of them are gone.

1. CJ.Spiller RB/KR-only if Ronnie is traded and if not becomes #2.
2. D.Bryant WR-could change as noted above.
3. E.Thomas FS

I don't see any other players with enough talent to justify being selected at 12 ahead of these 3 guys (4 but I really can't justify adding Berry because it would be a miracle for him to fall). Even though selecting a LB has a strong history with this FO I really am not convinced that there are any great enough this year to be selected ahead of these 3 outside of a trade back.

AceofSpades
04-06-2010, 05:49 AM
I am very much on board with your arguments. That this happens to be an extremely deep draft at several of the front 7 defensive positions - with guys like Brandon Graham, Sergio Kindle, Derrick Morgan, and Jason Pierre-Paul in the mix at 12 - does not mean that those players can have as significant an impact on the Dolphins as a Spiller or Bryant can.

We can hope that the abundance of talent on the defensive side of the ball means that a good deal of it slides down into round 2. Ultimately, I believe that the Dolphins need more work on the defensive side of the ball than on offense, but taking an offensive player in the first round does not by any means preclude the Trifecta from drafting heavily for the defense afterward.

Aqua and Orange
04-06-2010, 06:25 AM
I certainly agree with your sentiments, and hope that the team does as well.

I worry about how much compensation we could get in return for Ronnie Brown at this point. I think the team would be wise to shop BOTH running backs given their uncertain futures. Time will tell if we are able to unload them for anything resembling a decent price.

3rdandinches
04-06-2010, 07:12 AM
I am very much on board with your arguments. That this happens to be an extremely deep draft at several of the front 7 defensive positions - with guys like Brandon Graham, Sergio Kindle, Derrick Morgan, and Jason Pierre-Paul in the mix at 12 - does not mean that those players can have as significant an impact on the Dolphins as a Spiller or Bryant can.

We can hope that the abundance of talent on the defensive side of the ball means that a good deal of it slides down into round 2. Ultimately, I believe that the Dolphins need more work on the defensive side of the ball than on offense, but taking an offensive player in the first round does not by any means preclude the Trifecta from drafting heavily for the defense afterward.

It is alot easier to have a debate over the best OLB because good arguements can be made for multiple guys. That cannot be said about WR, FS or RB.... Bryant is by far the most talented WR in the draft.....Berry/Thomas are head and shoulders above the next crop of FS's....Spiller's big play ability and return ability makes him the most valuable RB in the draft. For those reasons I can't see OLB or NT taken at 12 but only one of those three(four-Berry won't fall) will be the pick.

rev kev
04-06-2010, 07:23 AM
Well if we go O first round there is supposd to be a some good D players around later - while the good O players taper off... Not sure we don't go B Graham at no 12 as Dez is good as gone

Ozfin77
04-06-2010, 07:39 AM
It is alot easier to have a debate over the best OLB because good arguements can be made for multiple guys. That cannot be said about WR, FS or RB.... Bryant is by far the most talented WR in the draft.....Berry/Thomas are head and shoulders above the next crop of FS's....Spiller's big play ability and return ability makes him the most valuable RB in the draft. For those reasons I can't see OLB or NT taken at 12 but only one of those three(four-Berry won't fall) will be the pick.


I wouldnt say Bryant is "by far" the #1 WR....I'd take a close look at Arrelious Benn too, he's not far off Bryant IMO.

So from a value standpoint, I'd probably lean toward Benn.

3rdandinches
04-06-2010, 08:43 AM
I wouldnt say Bryant is "by far" the #1 WR....I'd take a close look at Arrelious Benn too, he's not far off Bryant IMO.

So from a value standpoint, I'd probably lean toward Benn.

At 12?

#1dolphinsfan
04-06-2010, 08:46 AM
the best thing to do in the first is draft Dez Bryant and go defense the rest of the draft

Ozfin77
04-06-2010, 08:59 AM
At 12?

No way...Should have clarified. :lol:

Following a trade down or 2 if it could be worked.

outlawd2u
04-06-2010, 05:44 PM
I agree with the OP 100% but it's also possible IMO that all 4 of those guys are gone at #12. But I have thought about it for what seems like forever now and the player I really want Miami to draft is Dez Bryant. I definietly wouldn't be upset with Berry, Thomas, or Spiller but I would be upset if Dan Williams was the pick. I could be happy with a Brandon Graham, Sergio Kindle, Sean Weatherspoon too but if Bryant is on the board and we pick anyone else it will probably take me a while to get too excited about our pick.

Phin-Phan 66
04-06-2010, 06:07 PM
While I agree that Dez and CJ are special - I just don't think we take them.
I would certainly be happy if we do, but I don't see it.

I think Brandon Graham is the pick and he will immediately become my favorite Dolphin.

emeraldfin
04-06-2010, 06:17 PM
the best thing to do in the first is draft Dez Bryant and go defense the rest of the draft

Agreed especially with the depth there is at OLB in this draft.