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Quadfather
04-07-2010, 01:52 AM
I think the biggest need for this team for round 1 is OLB. we need a splash player and thats what a dominant pass rusher is. whether its brandon graham, sergio kindle, or jason-pierre paul, thats where the dolphins should go. Good NT are easier to find in the later rounds than OLB's and i think the guy the dolphins could target in round one Dan Williams, will most likely be gone by the time we pick. If we draft a safety, hes just going to be torched if we dont have any pass rushers. A guy like brandon graham helps the secondary and the front seven. A WR would be a sexy pick, but i dont think the front office is ready to give 15 million or whatever the number is to Dez Bryant who has all kinds of problems. If you take all that, and then look at parcells draft history, an OLB makes the most sense. there shouldnt really be a debate. the debate is which OLB we take.

jim1
04-07-2010, 02:00 AM
No, it doesn't.

Aqua and Orange
04-07-2010, 02:18 AM
I wouldn't say our free safety would be saved by increased pass rush, because as of right now that position is one big hole.

There are arguments that can be made for each position, which might make it come down to best player available at a position of need.

Phin-Phan 66
04-07-2010, 03:34 AM
Brandon Graham

outlawd2u
04-08-2010, 12:40 AM
this line of thinking is what gets you in trouble as a franchise. IMO it is never good to reach for a position of need when there are better players on the board.

TXFinFan
04-08-2010, 12:57 AM
Most teams don't really go BPA. There is always an element of need. If I was running the Dolphins draft, I would select the best player available among the top needs we have.

So, whoever is the highest rated player from the following positions. WR, S, OLB, & NT.

This year, Berry & Bryant are higher rated players than all OLB's & NT's in this draft. If one of them is there, you pick them. If not, then players like Earl Thomas & Brandon Graham come into play. There is not a single NT in this draft worthy of a top 15 pick.

No1Phinatic
04-08-2010, 04:00 AM
JT still out there (for now.) I think signing him makes S the biggest need by virtue of who is on roster. Without JT it's a tie between S and OLB. WR and NT are not strengths but at least there are guys with game experience there. This whole wait and see attitude with JT is going to bite them in the butt!

Mr_Freezetag
04-08-2010, 04:16 AM
I think the biggest need for this team for round 1 is OLB. we need a splash player and thats what a dominant pass rusher is. whether its brandon graham, sergio kindle, or jason-pierre paul, thats where the dolphins should go. Good NT are easier to find in the later rounds than OLB's and i think the guy the dolphins could target in round one Dan Williams, will most likely be gone by the time we pick. If we draft a safety, hes just going to be torched if we dont have any pass rushers. A guy like brandon graham helps the secondary and the front seven. A WR would be a sexy pick, but i dont think the front office is ready to give 15 million or whatever the number is to Dez Bryant who has all kinds of problems. If you take all that, and then look at parcells draft history, an OLB makes the most sense. there shouldnt really be a debate. the debate is which OLB we take.

I disagree.

Just because the FO decides not to draft an OLB with the 12th pick doesn't mean their newly acquired rookie Safety is going to get torched.

I think safety should be our biggest concern heading into this draft. If Berry and Thomas are not there then that is another story.

None of us know how confident they are in starting Clemons, if they are, then OLB first is a good choice.

If we have just an average or below average player at FS this year, no matter what our pass rush does, we will have issues week after week.

dr.jake
04-08-2010, 04:26 AM
not necessarily.OLB may be the deepest position in this draft.

JCfinfan
04-08-2010, 04:36 AM
I'm torn between Earl Thomas and Brandon Graham.

Conuficus
04-08-2010, 04:52 AM
BPA vs Need is all well and good, but in many ways it is positional value that may determine who goes where.

For instance last year KC took Tyson Jackson at #3. Why? He was the best 3-4 DE on the board, period. They needed a 3-4 DE in the worst way and they had him rated the best at his position, and at a position that was highest on their list. That may explain why you see teams on draft day do things that don't appear to make sense in comparison to what Mocks and overall logic think they should do. That may seem strange, until you look at the whole field of who may be a 3-4 DE, and what their value is in comparison to other positions in the draft. The defensive line in many ways was overrated last year as many players ended up falling a bit more than most believed. There fore the league valued other positions more. Hence some picks when we all scream why wait to get that guy over player 'x'.

The other thing to look at is who has the team been in contact with, what positions and where are these players rated? For instance if we are spending a good deal of time on TE's who may go in the 2nd-3rd rounds, chances are we are looking at that position as having value there, and likewise where we look at safeties in the 1st round and then in the 4th, areas where the team feels there is value relative to other positions. The team may feel there are other positions in that round that offer better value in rounds 2 and 3 than safety.

dr.jake
04-08-2010, 05:06 AM
at # 12 i think you take the BPA. you want a future probowler/star here. we could probably overlook qb and rb cuz we've already invested so much there. but o-line,d-line, wr's,secondary or linebackers you grab the best player regardless of who starts in front of them. we need a guy who makes a difference day one. ILB mcclain is my personal choice but i can live with someone else who starts and dominates from day 1.

Danny
04-08-2010, 05:26 AM
what makes sense at 12 is Bryant as OLB is very deep this year but WR is not.....either we get one at 12 or we won't get any.

Ozzy rules!!

finfan54
04-08-2010, 05:34 AM
I dont care what anyone thinks or even what I think on this. BP and co. have a short list of guys who are worth the money they will pay someone to come right in and play a position the way they want it played.

That to me is the two safeties, Williams, and Morgan. Brandon Graham is not going to be picked at 12 IMO because of his size. They are looking for someone to shut down the outside in run game. We missed that this past year with Roth probs and JP and his mouth/probs. JT is too lean. We are no doubt looking for OLB in 260-270 range or even higher. DT is high priority as well.

Graham is more pass rush specialist even though he can play run too but not quite the prototype with short arms. They want someone who can overpower the tackle while maintaining lane.

This regime is looking at a lot of LB's.

finfan54
04-08-2010, 05:36 AM
what makes sense at 12 is Bryant as OLB is very deep this year but WR is not.....either we get one at 12 or we won't get any.

Ozzy rules!!

WR is deep. You just want your guy and nothing else. That is what I see.