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FinAtic8480
06-23-2010, 11:11 PM
Profootballtalk.com reports that unsigned restricted free agent S Jarrad Page has requested a trade.
Page let Profootballtalk know of the trade demand via a press release that noted, "Entering the 2009 season, Jarrad Page had more interceptions than any other safety selected in the 2006 draft class." Page is coming off a poor season, but has shown playmaking ability, is cheap, and is only 25 years old. The Chiefs should be able to get a late-round pick for him.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37790533/ns/sports-player_news/

I know I am gonna get killed for this, but I could not resist. Look I really really want Clemons to succeed, but I feel we need a veteran presence at FS.

SRM
06-23-2010, 11:13 PM
Depends on how late the pick is really, we could still use some competition. I know Culver is there but, I see him taking the backup SS spot more than the starting FS spot.

FinAtic8480
06-23-2010, 11:17 PM
Depends on how late the pick is really, we could still use some competition. I know Culver is there but, I see him taking the backup SS spot more than the starting FS spot.

Culver is a critical backup. He plays the dime position and plays well when he is the third safety on the field. I rather him be a key backup. Fins need competition at Safety and for a late round pick, why not? Chiefs and Fins have done good trades before, would like to see this one get done.

RobertHorry
06-23-2010, 11:22 PM
N to the o.

FinAtic8480
06-23-2010, 11:29 PM
CK if you are out there, your thoughts are always welcomed

FinAtic8480
06-23-2010, 11:35 PM
N to the o.

Last year he had a down year, but given the season he had in 2008 where he posted 86 tackles, four interceptions, 12 passes defended and two force fumble, you say no? Really?

Travis34
06-23-2010, 11:37 PM
Eh, competition is never bad.

FinAtic8480
06-23-2010, 11:41 PM
BTW Miami could wait this out and see if KC cuts Page, if they were to have any interest which I do not know.

X-Pacolypse
06-23-2010, 11:49 PM
I would wait until he's released.

RobertHorry
06-24-2010, 12:00 AM
Last year he had a down year, but given the season he had in 2008 where he posted 86 tackles, four interceptions, 12 passes defended and two force fumble, you say no? Really?


Yes, no.

FinAtic8480
06-24-2010, 12:04 AM
Yes, no.

:bobdole:

JCane
06-24-2010, 12:13 AM
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

MiamiDolfan85
06-24-2010, 12:14 AM
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37790533/ns/sports-player_news/

I know I am gonna get killed for this, but I could not resist. Look I really really want Clemons to succeed, but I feel we need a veteran presence at FS.
cmon Fin,you cant be serious....this guy is worse(and yes,I do realize the ramifacations I'm applying) then Gibril Wilson


Its not even a hesitation on my part.I feel so strongly of this,I'd say there was a higher chance of Miami trading with Cincinnati for Wilson back himself!(this is no sarcasm...)

FinAtic8480
06-24-2010, 12:17 AM
cmon Fin,you cant be serious....this guy is worse(and yes,I do realize the ramifacations I'm applying) then Gibril Wilson


Its not even a hesitation on my part.I feel so strongly of this,I'd say there was a higher chance of Miami trading with Cincinnati for Wilson back himself!(this is no sarcasm...)

What do you based this on, he is actually a real underrated player.

MiamiDolfan85
06-24-2010, 12:30 AM
What do you based this on, he is actually a real underrated player.
of course this is my own personal opinion,but I've watched roughly around 4-5 Cheifs games the past 2 years...(downtime)

Right off the bat from watching him,his speed is atrocious.I know 40 time is overrated,but 4.65 for a FS is unacceptable,and he completely displays that speed.And,it would be different if he made up for it with being a playmaker,but unfortunately he doesnt.

Are we so quick to forget we just got rid of practically the exact same player.Page is even bigger than Wilson(225),and his coverage & run support are both nothing to plan for.Gibril had similar stats to Page,amtter a fact,Gibril Wilson has better stats than him.

I'm sorry,I really dont see why he'd even think he has decent trade capability,short of someone getting hurt in TC or Pre-Season.

RobertHorry
06-24-2010, 12:38 AM
:bobdole:

Do you just look at the stats of players and correlate it to the Dolphins? Page sucks. He's a backup on a good team and starter on a crappy team. Hence him starting on the Chiefs. Half his career interceptions came against the Raiders. Hes always injured as well. On top of that he is showing how big of an idiot he is by doing this whole stunt, acting like he is Bob Sanders or Nick Collins or Ed Reed.

He's Gibril Wilson part two. He is a strong safety playing Free Safety. His best asset is playing in-box, but we don't need that with Bell. He's a physical safety and a tank at 228-230 pounds. He's not light on his feet whatsoever and has minimal range when playing centerfield. Page messes up assignments, gets burned, and misses tackles.

He had 992 plays in 2008 and was rated 77 out 83 in the safeties department. Thats just atrocious. He had 10 missed tackles that year as well.

In 2009, his year was cut short. But lets look at the stats. Against Baltimore in Week 1 he was involved in 90 snaps. He amassed a total of 4 tackles. Week 2 he was in 56 snaps. 1 tackle amassed. Week 3, he had 3 tackles in 56 snaps. Week 4 he had 4 tackles in 75 snaps. And then 5 tackles in 70 snaps in Week 5. In 2009, he only played in 348 snaps, yet still managed to have 5 missed tackles. 348 snaps and 5 missed tackles is unacceptable.

Yeremiah Bell had 966 snaps and had 1 MISSED TACKLE the entire year. And that missed tackle was the first game of the season when he missed Tony Gonzalez. So he went the next 15 games without missing a tackle, making 83 in a row without missing ONE. Lets recount. Page had 10 in 992 snaps and the 5 in 348 snaps.

Page also ran the 40 in 4.65 when he came out 4 years ago. Add into the mix his injury, your looking somewhere between a 4.68-4.7 Free Safety. Page is like Gibril Wilson part deux.

FinAtic8480
06-24-2010, 12:42 AM
Do you just look at the stats of players and correlate it to the Dolphins? Page sucks. He's a backup on a good team and starter on a crappy team. Hence him starting on the Chiefs. Half his career interceptions came against the Raiders. Hes always injured as well. On top of that he is showing how big of an idiot he is by doing this whole stunt, acting like he is Bob Sanders or Nick Collins or Ed Reed.

He's Gibril Wilson part two. He is a strong safety playing Free Safety. His best asset is playing in-box, but we don't need that with Bell. Page messes up assignments, gets burned, and misses tackles.

He had 992 plays in 2008 and was rated 77 out 83 in the safeties department. Thats just atrocious. He had 10 missed tackles that year as well.

In 2009, his year was cut short. But lets look at the stats. Against Baltimore in Week 1 he was involved in 90 snaps. He amassed a total of 4 tackles. Week 2 he was in 56 snaps. 1 tackle amassed. Week 3, he had 3 tackles in 56 snaps. Week 4 he had 4 tackles in 75 snaps. And then 5 tackles in 70 snaps in Week 5. In 2009, he only played in 348 snaps, yet still managed to have 5 missed tackles. 348 snaps and 5 missed tackles is unacceptable.

Yeremiah Bell had 966 snaps and had 1 MISSED TACKLE the entire year. Lets recount. Page had 10 in 992 snaps and the 5 in 348 snaps.

Page also ran the 40 in 4.65 when he came out 4 years ago. Add into the mix his injury, your looking somewhere between a 4.68-4.7 Free Safety. Page is like Gibril Wilson part deux.

Sounds like Im not the only one looking at Stats and I never said I wanted him to start, I said Clemons need competition

RobertHorry
06-24-2010, 12:45 AM
Sounds like Im not the only one looking at Stats and I never said I wanted him to start, I said Clemons need competition

Yeah but you dont trade for someone like Page just for competition. I rather have a 7th round pick than Page. Page is the opposite of what we need at FS.

PhinsPhan11
06-24-2010, 12:56 AM
There's nothing wrong with a little competition.

MiamiDolfan85
06-24-2010, 12:58 AM
There's nothing wrong with a little competition.

but there is soemthing wrong with trading for a player whose worse than the player to paid 28 million to suck....

SRM
06-24-2010, 01:04 AM
Hm, sounds pretty bad then.

FinAtic8480
06-24-2010, 01:08 AM
Did someone not read my statement of Miami waiting to he is released to acquire if they were interested.

BobDole
06-24-2010, 01:10 AM
i agree with clemons - or culver - needing competition - but said competition has to be good enough to start or else the whole rationale is only an exercise in futility. the idea itself isn't bad but bringing in someone like page would be going in exactly the wrong direction. page is an in-the-box guy all the way - no idea why so many teams play so many players out of position when its so obvious. if we needed depth at SS i'd say he's worth a look - but to bring him as competition for clemons at FS would be a total clusterfugg. waste of time, pick, money - you name it and him coming here would be a waste of it.

if we bring someone in to compete with clemons - that player needs to be a veteran at the (same) position - someone clemons could learn from and improve from having them present - and they need to be good enough to start if the player they're coming in to compete with isn't ready/good enough. page doesn't meet any of the qualifications - hell - he doesn't even play the same position.

there really isn't anyone out there that fits the 'competition' mold right now - no free agents at least. sharper would have been absolutely perfect. atogwe would have started, without competition or question.

FinAtic8480
06-24-2010, 01:25 AM
i agree with clemons - or culver - needing competition - but said competition has to be good enough to start or else the whole rationale is only an exercise in futility. the idea itself isn't bad but bringing in someone like page would be going in exactly the wrong direction. page is an in-the-box guy all the way - no idea why so many teams play so many players out of position when its so obvious. if we needed depth at SS i'd say he's worth a look - but to bring him as competition for clemons at FS would be a total clusterfugg. waste of time, pick, money - you name it and him coming here would be a waste of it.

if we bring someone in to compete with clemons - that player needs to be a veteran at the (same) position - someone clemons could learn from and improve from having them present - and they need to be good enough to start if the player they're coming in to compete with isn't ready/good enough. page doesn't meet any of the qualifications - hell - he doesn't even play the same position.

there really isn't anyone out there that fits the 'competition' mold right now - no free agents at least. sharper would have been absolutely perfect. atogwe would have started, without competition or question.

Really appreciate the 2 cents, excellent analysis.

ROADRUNNER
06-24-2010, 03:25 AM
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greasyObnoxious
06-24-2010, 06:16 AM
to be frank, i'd rather see what Jonathan Amaya has to offer before bringing in Jarrad Page. if we hadn't drafted Reshad Jones, Page might have made sense as back-up SS.

FinAtic8480
06-24-2010, 07:19 AM
to be frank, i'd rather see what Jonathan Amaya has to offer before bringing in Jarrad Page. if we hadn't drafted Reshad Jones, Page might have made sense as back-up SS.

Thing about Amaya is he was playing strong safety in OTAs, I had forgotten about the kid. Heard he impressed big time.

greasyObnoxious
06-24-2010, 08:21 AM
Thing about Amaya is he was playing strong safety in OTAs, I had forgotten about the kid. Heard he impressed big time.

Sparano said something along the lines of "the ball is finding him". so, he's generally in good position. that speaks of good awareness and good instincts. but it's only OTAs. who knows what happens once the pads come on.