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bpackers13
07-15-2010, 12:09 PM
Does anyone know what time today the sup. draft is, and when we will find out who we pick up?

Sofa_King_Drunk
07-15-2010, 12:18 PM
It already took place, each team e-mailed their picks (if any) about 11 a.m. I believe. I looked up last years supplemental draft, the first results article I saw posted was at around 2:00 on the day of the draft.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 12:21 PM
I don't think it's a one-shot process like you're describing. They go round by round. I believe it's currently still going on, and the results are usually known almost immediately. PFT is the best place to keep checking.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 12:23 PM
Although Twitter has gotten so popular that honestly we may hear the results on Twitter even before PFT.

bpackers13
07-15-2010, 12:27 PM
I hope we pick up Unga. Although I know there are many other teams vying for him, I'm interested to see where he lands.

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 12:44 PM
I thought it was kind of a silent auction with a team submitting the round they'd take a player in if he was still available. Maybe they do draw it out round by round. That would allow a team to jump in late if a guy was starting to fall into value territory for them.

At any rate, although PFT said it began this morning, Jason LaCanfora said on NFL.com that it begins at 1pm, and that he should have the results on his twitter as they come in.

http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 12:51 PM
Ah ok so PFT thought it started at 11am, it actually starts at 1pm.

But La Canfora confirmed what I was saying, that it goes round by round and that results are generally disseminated immediately.

Sofa_King_Drunk
07-15-2010, 12:53 PM
I don't think it's a one-shot process like you're describing. They go round by round. I believe it's currently still going on, and the results are usually known almost immediately. PFT is the best place to keep checking.

"Also, it unfolds not with a slow walk to a podium but via e-mail, with teams submitting a list of players they'd like to pick and the round in which they want to pick them. The players are awarded based on a priority ranking driven largely by the manner in which the team's finished in the prior season." That's what PFT says, so who knows? They seem to be just throwing poo at the wall lately to see if it sticks.....

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 12:57 PM
Right. I wasn't sure if they'd make us wait till close of business or not, so it's good to know we'll have the info pretty quickly after it goes down.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 01:01 PM
"Also, it unfolds not with a slow walk to a podium but via e-mail, with teams submitting a list of players they'd like to pick and the round in which they want to pick them. The players are awarded based on a priority ranking driven largely by the manner in which the team's finished in the prior season." That's what PFT says, so who knows? They seem to be just throwing poo at the wall lately to see if it sticks.....

Either PFT is not quite implying what you think they are implying, or they are wrong, either way it is done round by round.

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 01:02 PM
"Also, it unfolds not with a slow walk to a podium but via e-mail, with teams submitting a list of players they'd like to pick and the round in which they want to pick them. The players are awarded based on a priority ranking driven largely by the manner in which the team's finished in the prior season." That's what PFT says, so who knows? They seem to be just throwing poo at the wall lately to see if it sticks.....

That's how I remembered it from a few years ago--that it was an "instant" process because each player (and there are never very many) goes to the team that submitted the highest pick, hence, no need to go round by round. But I got this info second hand, and wouldn't stake my life on it.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 01:07 PM
I remember last year or the year before that we were actually getting the results round by round. As in, the 1st round would pass and PFT would put an update up that says "The 1st round is done and nobody has submitted any picks." and then the 2nd round would pass, etc. Jason La Canfora just confirmed that it is done round by round.

Nublar7
07-15-2010, 01:13 PM
I think it just started at 1:00PM. Doubt we draft anybody.

PhinsPhan11
07-15-2010, 01:20 PM
I think it's at 1:00, but I don't think we draft anyone.

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 01:21 PM
I think it just started at 1:00PM. Doubt we draft anybody.

I wonder if the DL goes undrafted if we'll go after him hard as a FA.

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 01:23 PM
From twitter:


Adam_Schefter





Round Two of the Supplemental Draft is now underway. No player was selected in Round One.


Edit: No selections in rounds 1, 2, or 3.

Tunaphish429
07-15-2010, 01:31 PM
Round 2 is now over..No player was selected

Tunaphish429
07-15-2010, 01:38 PM
Round 4 is underway
No players in round 3

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From twitter:

Edit: No selections in rounds 1, 2, or 3.

Sorry, you got this

bpackers13
07-15-2010, 01:39 PM
wow if Unga is there in the 5th 0r 6th I say pull the trigger!

FinAtic8480
07-15-2010, 01:40 PM
ProFootbalFocus RT @Schottey: Miami in this round (prediction) should get Unga - The sweepstakes have begun

https://twitter.com/Schottey

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 01:41 PM
No problem, I was just editing my post with updates.

FinAtic8480
07-15-2010, 01:43 PM
Schottey League source told me he believed 5th was "worst case scenario" for Unga

https://twitter.com/Schottey

Tunaphish429
07-15-2010, 01:48 PM
5th rounder would be a steal for an experienced, plays when hurt, and verstile back

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 01:49 PM
Schottey League source told me he believed 5th was "worst case scenario" for Unga

We'll see, because that's where we are.

X-Pacolypse
07-15-2010, 01:51 PM
We'll see, because that's where we are.

It'll be interesting too see if Miami pulls the trigger.

PhinsPhan11
07-15-2010, 01:52 PM
A 5th rounder would be a steal for Unga.

Nublar7
07-15-2010, 01:53 PM
4th round is over and no one was picked. Now I could see Miami starting to consider drafting Unga. We have the 14th pick in the round, not the 12th like the regular draft.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 01:53 PM
No one selected in Round 4. On to round 5 of Supp Draft

So the 5th round where Unga has been projected for a long time is now underway. He had a lot of interest, it would surprise me if he's not taken by a team here. I'm not thinking it'll be Miami but we'll see.

Price-Brent could also come off the board somewhere around here of the 6th round.

FinAtic8480
07-15-2010, 01:53 PM
Matthewcelder
Unga is drafted this round, perdiction. RT @JasonLaCanfora: No one selected in Round 4. On to round 5 of Supp Draft

www.twitter.com/Matthwecelder

Tunaphish429
07-15-2010, 01:53 PM
I don't see why we don't do it..We have been able to turn camp fodder into 5th round draft picks almost yearly..

But someone who was worse than us last year might want him too..

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 01:54 PM
4th round is over and no one was picked. Now I could see Miami starting to consider drafting Unga. We have the 14th pick in the round, not the 12th like the regular draft.

How do you know we have the 14th pick?

CalFishman
07-15-2010, 01:56 PM
PFT reports pick #13
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/15/cleveland-finally-catches-a-break/

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 01:57 PM
One big reason not to do it would be Lex Hilliard. There's no way you carry both Lex Hilliard and Harvey Unga in 2010. I think Unga is a better prospect than Hilliard but is he enough better to make up for the uncertainty factor? Hilliard has taken NFL carries and has multiple years in an NFL training program. Just saying.

I would love to be able to have some way to keep both guys around the team until the 18 game season and expanded roster, and when Miami will lose probably Ronnie Brown next year...but how do you keep both? Hilliard can't go on the practice squad. If you draft Unga in the 5th, he probably can't either.

FinAtic8480
07-15-2010, 01:58 PM
JasonLaCanfora
No one taken in the 5th round of the Supp Draft. On to Round 6

www.twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 01:58 PM
5th round done, nobody taken. Down to 6th and 7th rounds. If Unga goes UDFA then he's a practice squad candidate.

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 01:58 PM
Price-Brent could also come off the board somewhere around here of the 6th round.

If he lasted until the 7th and we grabbed him, it would give us an extra year to work with him as he soaks up Nolan's defense. We don't need him to start. Depends what they see as to his potential, though.

DefensiveEnd76
07-15-2010, 01:59 PM
Wow, I thought for sure, someone would spend a 5th rounder on Unga

X-Pacolypse
07-15-2010, 01:59 PM
So far, nobody has been selected.

FinAtic8480
07-15-2010, 02:00 PM
One big reason not to do it would be Lex Hilliard. There's no way you carry both Lex Hilliard and Harvey Unga in 2010. I think Unga is a better prospect than Hilliard but is he enough better to make up for the uncertainty factor? Hilliard has taken NFL carries and has multiple years in an NFL training program. Just saying.

I would love to be able to have some way to keep both guys around the team until the 18 game season and expanded roster, and when Miami will lose probably Ronnie Brown next year...but how do you keep both? Hilliard can't go on the practice squad. If you draft Unga in the 5th, he probably can't either.

Make Cobbs your fifth WR, just saying he was awesome in 08 at WR.

Tunaphish429
07-15-2010, 02:00 PM
You know..if teams are not willling to give up a 5th rounder for him..they must not be that impressed

DefensiveEnd76
07-15-2010, 02:01 PM
Price Brent is not very strong and had very ordinary 40 yard dash times. Even his numbers on the field aren't real impressive and he has character issues on top of it

Nublar7
07-15-2010, 02:03 PM
How do you know we have the 14th pick?
Actually, it is the 13th pick. My mistake.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/15/cleveland-finally-catches-a-break/

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 02:03 PM
Price Brent is not very strong and had very ordinary 40 yard dash times. Even his numbers on the field aren't real impressive and he has character issues on top of it

What's a "character issue?"

:lol:

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 02:03 PM
Cobbs is not an actual WR. He only is able to fill in there.

FinAtic8480
07-15-2010, 02:09 PM
JasonLaCanfora No one taken in 6th round of Supp Draft. One round left

www.twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora

FinAtic8480
07-15-2010, 02:10 PM
Cobbs is not an actual WR. He only is able to fill in there.

Just a suggestion

X-Pacolypse
07-15-2010, 02:11 PM
It's now Round 7, and Unga is still on the board.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 02:11 PM
Oof, not even a 6th. Things not looking good for Unga here.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 02:12 PM
I'm reminded of the old adage, "Running backs always fall."

hooshoops
07-15-2010, 02:13 PM
yeah to me while i think unga offers more than hilliard as an overall game i don't think it makes sense to have them both on the roster...6th round ha ha looks like the nfl isn't all that impressed either

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 02:15 PM
This supplemental draft is sooooo exhausting. LOL.

CalFishman
07-15-2010, 02:16 PM
I wonder if we could get a 7th for Hilliard. Pick Unga with a 7th. If he impresses, try to get a 7th for Hilliard.

X-Pacolypse
07-15-2010, 02:16 PM
This supplemental draft is sooooo exhausting. LOL.

OK, Adam Schefter.

Nublar7
07-15-2010, 02:17 PM
Wow, I am actually very surprised he is still on the board for the 7th round. I will be even more surprised if he goes undrafted. Miami will have two 7th rounds picks in 2011, so why not take a chance on Unga? Could be Justin Smiley for Unga.

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 02:18 PM
This supplemental draft is sooooo exhausting. LOL.

Supplemental Draft parties kind of suck, too.

:lol:

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 02:20 PM
And in the 7th round of the Supplemental Draft, Jeff Ireland has selected.....A4. Hostess Cherry Pie. $1.25.

FinAtic8480
07-15-2010, 02:20 PM
Adam_Schefter
Bears draft Unga Dallas drafts Brent Price

www.twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

dol-phan007
07-15-2010, 02:21 PM
The bears got him

oasis
07-15-2010, 02:21 PM
Were we so interested that we don't even want to give a 7th?

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 02:21 PM
The Bears on the other hand drafted Unga in the 7th round, and the Dallas Cowboys selected Josh Price-Brent.

hooshoops
07-15-2010, 02:22 PM
harveys draft value has gone unga way unga...

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And in the 7th round of the Supplemental Draft, Jeff Ireland has selected.....A4. Hostess Cherry Pie. $1.25.

ha ha...that's awesome

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 02:22 PM
Were we so interested that we don't even want to give a 7th?

Technically speaking the Bears picked one slot ahead of the Dolphins so we don't know if the Dolphins submitted a pick for Unga in the 7th.

But I doubt they did.

X-Pacolypse
07-15-2010, 02:22 PM
Well, that's it for this year's Supplemental Draft. You've been a great audience, please tip your waitresses, and have a great rest of your day!

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 02:23 PM
Chicago was one pick ahead of us with taking Unga. Dallas was near the bottom of the round.

Nublar7
07-15-2010, 02:23 PM
Were we so interested that we don't even want to give a 7th?Bears picked #12 and the Dolphins picked #13. If Miami wanted him in the 7th, there was no way they could have got him. It is possible Miami put a claim in and lost out by just one spot.

hooshoops
07-15-2010, 02:24 PM
no skin off my back...

AgentXof12
07-15-2010, 02:24 PM
I think the really hard question is whether Unga is better than the squad of halfbacks we already have. If we already know he is not physically superior to any of our current guys, then why bother burning a draft pick on him? If he had gone undrafted, I could see testing him out.

Evidently, he was not going to displace anyone.

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 02:26 PM
On to the business at hand... continue building a team that can demolish the rest of the AFC East.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 02:28 PM
Well technically there's no business at hand and they just sent a signal that they think they've already built what they need to build.

oasis
07-15-2010, 02:37 PM
Well technically there's no business at hand and they just sent a signal that they think they've already built what they need to build.

at least at HB

oh god chris clemons I hope you're the answer at FS...

Myles Fynch
07-15-2010, 02:39 PM
Well technically there's no business at hand and they just sent a signal that they think they've already built what they need to build.

I'd put our defense in the category of "under construction." New players, new coordinator, old players shown the door one way or the other. That whole thing has to gel by September or we're going to look like the '86 Dolphins again. On the plus side I take from our non-participation in the draft today a positive sign towards how they feel about our RB depth.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 02:39 PM
Don't sleep on Tyrone Culver. Very solid DB for us last year. By no means was he a reason we gave up big plays.

hooshoops
07-15-2010, 02:41 PM
i wish deandre mcdaniel was in the supp draft...

oasis
07-15-2010, 02:42 PM
Don't sleep on Tyrone Culver. Very solid DB for us last year. By no means was he a reason we gave up big plays.

Good point - I always forget about him. But personally I feel much more comfortable with him back there compared to Clemons. At this point. We'll see how much Clemons has improved come training camp. Those camp reports can't get here soon enough...almost gives me a reason to wake up every morning! :)

JFoxx
07-15-2010, 02:42 PM
I really didn't figure we'd give up any of our picks for the only two prospects out there. We're pretty set with players at both RB and WR. They'd be nothing more than prospects at this point and possibly practice squad guys. They may have hoped for them to go undrafted to take a chance on, but not to give up draft picks for when there's no huge need at either spot.

RealDriscoll
07-15-2010, 02:44 PM
Good point CK. I see people on the Clemons and Reshad Jones bandwagon but let's remeber that Culver has played very well for us. I think OLB beyond Misi and Wake is a major need...

hooshoops
07-15-2010, 02:45 PM
Good point - I always forget about him. But personally I feel much more comfortable with him back there compared to Clemons. At this point. We'll see how much Clemons has improved come training camp. Those camp reports can't get here soon enough...almost gives me a reason to wake up every morning! :)

aren't there rainbows galore in san fran...

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 02:50 PM
i wish deandre mcdaniel was in the supp draft...

Whoof whoof. (sniff).

miamiron
07-15-2010, 02:59 PM
aren't there rainbows galore in san fran...

YES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYV5nM6iQVY

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 03:02 PM
I'm not concerned about OLB beyond Misi and Wake so much as pass rusher beyond Misi and Wake. Or really beyond Wake, since Misi is almost totally unproven in that regard.

We're going to probably re-introduce Yeremiah Bell as a blitzer. I don't know if anyone remembers but back in Saban's day when Bell was just a nickel/dime guy, they blitzed Bell a lot and he looked pretty darn good. Over the past two years Bell has blitzed 69 times, has 3 sacks, 4 hits, 5 pressures. That's pretty good. Losing Nate Jones is a blow because he had a heck of a feel for DB blitzing, but Vontae Davis has to be a good blitzer I imagine.

In Denver last year Mike Nolan had Brian Dawkins blitz 44 times. Altogether they had 69 safety blitzes. Miami had their share, too. They had 59 safety blitzes. I think Miami blitzed DBs more than Nolan. But I think that Nolan will increase Vontae Davis' blitz totals (only did it 1 time in 2009) and increase Yeremiah Bell's. Hopefully that will pay off a little bit. I think more important than how many times you blitz those guys, is teaching them how to do it and be more effective.

BobDole
07-15-2010, 03:02 PM
wow would i love to pee on rainbow guy.

hooshoops
07-15-2010, 03:08 PM
i'd like to see more cb blitzes from vontae davis...whether he be lined up outside or over the slot...bring heat with vontae...

phintim
07-15-2010, 03:08 PM
I really didn't figure we'd give up any of our picks for the only two prospects out there. We're pretty set with players at both RB and WR. They'd be nothing more than prospects at this point and possibly practice squad guys. They may have hoped for them to go undrafted to take a chance on, but not to give up draft picks for when there's no huge need at either spot.
Well looking ahead you could kick around the RB spot. But as pointed out earlier Hillard showed up when needed last year so hiding on the PS this year would probably be next to impossible. Hillard had some of that beween the tackles talent that Unga has. We kept Korey Sheets on the roster too last year for a reason. I am holding out on him as the KR that Parcells has been coveting plus a quick scatt back. I am not up on Tristan Davis so much who was also on the active roster at year end. Granted it was due to injuries to Brown and Cobbs but if those 2 hadn't showed anything last year then they would not be here now. So if you go with popular opinion that Brown, Williams and Cobbs are locks then you have Hillard, Sheets and Davis fighting it to set on the bench. Until the end of the supplemental draft I was considering if perhaps the Phin's could have some sort of trade in the works for someone like Brown in an attempt to regain that pick lost for the Marshall trade which would have made sense to take a chance on Unga. I also am not as high as most to think that Cobbs is a lock. That knee may not be all the back yet.
Wish the supplemental draft had some quality OLB, FS OR a TE in it we have more needs currently in those areas.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 03:18 PM
i'd like to see more cb blitzes from vontae davis...whether he be lined up outside or over the slot...bring heat with vontae...

He only had one all year but he supposedly got a pressure on that one play.

Nolan seems like a guy that blitzes the safeties more than the CBs but I think Vontae and Will Allen will get some more blitzes than they did under Pasqualoni. Paul only wanted to blitz Gibril, Yeremiah or Nate Jones this year. Together they accounted for something like 85 blitzes. Not that I can blame him for picking them, since it might have been a little confusing to give the rookies some more of those assignments I suppose.

hooshoops
07-15-2010, 03:34 PM
yeah i think we didn't see vontae blitz much cause that was just one more thing he would have to put on his plate...i expect this year for that to be more frequent as he's more comfortable...cause from a physical standpoint i see no reason that vontae davis shouldn't be attacking on the blitz...

Nublar7
07-15-2010, 03:37 PM
The Dolphins(including unsigned draft picks) stand right now at 80 players, the maximum amount that you are allowed to have for training camp. Don't expect any additions to the team before TC starts for the simple fact that they would need to release someone to do it. Once camp gets going though, I expect a few moves at the bottom end of the roster. If they really want to add another running back to the mix(no real need to) they could always sign Quentin Castille.

phintim
07-15-2010, 03:43 PM
Don't sleep on Tyrone Culver. Very solid DB for us last year. By no means was he a reason we gave up big plays.

I also see Will Allen as a possible option there. I am not as down as many on how bad Jason Allen played last year when called on and of course there is a chance for a 3rd CB to emerge on the roster which would give the Phins the chance to move Will Allen there. He has good hands, the experieince needed to command the troups back there, like to hit some and it might even prolong his career if that knee of his is iffy.

oasis
07-15-2010, 03:50 PM
aren't there rainbows galore in san fran...

lots and lots and lots of rainbows...

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 03:51 PM
I had thought that was an option there based on one rumor that I heard as well as some language that Tony Sparano used about that position that seemed to frame his line of thinking about it. Since then I think things have developed to where they're genuinely looking at starting Clemons or Culver IMO.

It could also depend a little on Jason Allen and Nolan Carroll.

RobertHorry
07-15-2010, 03:55 PM
Make Cobbs your fifth WR, just saying he was awesome in 08 at WR.


He isn't that good of a wideout. He ran hitches and curls most of the time to get the ball in space. I dont think he can run daggers and arrows and double moves. He's a serviceable wideout when moved from RB though.

RobertHorry
07-15-2010, 04:00 PM
I'm not concerned about OLB beyond Misi and Wake so much as pass rusher beyond Misi and Wake. Or really beyond Wake, since Misi is almost totally unproven in that regard.

We're going to probably re-introduce Yeremiah Bell as a blitzer. I don't know if anyone remembers but back in Saban's day when Bell was just a nickel/dime guy, they blitzed Bell a lot and he looked pretty darn good. Over the past two years Bell has blitzed 69 times, has 3 sacks, 4 hits, 5 pressures. That's pretty good. Losing Nate Jones is a blow because he had a heck of a feel for DB blitzing, but Vontae Davis has to be a good blitzer I imagine.

In Denver last year Mike Nolan had Brian Dawkins blitz 44 times. Altogether they had 69 safety blitzes. Miami had their share, too. They had 59 safety blitzes. I think Miami blitzed DBs more than Nolan. But I think that Nolan will increase Vontae Davis' blitz totals (only did it 1 time in 2009) and increase Yeremiah Bell's. Hopefully that will pay off a little bit. I think more important than how many times you blitz those guys, is teaching them how to do it and be more effective.


People might be shocked at this, but Sean Smith isn't a bad blitzer himself either.

I think we will see times where Clemons or Culver blitzes as well too. Clemons has got some pretty darn good acceleration at the start of his bursts and Culver is an explosive athlete.

phintim
07-15-2010, 04:25 PM
I had thought that was an option there based on one rumor that I heard as well as some language that Tony Sparano used about that position that seemed to frame his line of thinking about it. Since then I think things have developed to where they're genuinely looking at starting Clemons or Culver IMO.

It could also depend a little on Jason Allen and Nolan Carroll.

Dropping back to the OLB position for a minute and I know its way early but I think Philip Merling could be a option there. He is fairly quick, his pass rush is his strength and he has not been exactly holding down the fort since they picked him up as a DE. He would be better Matt Roth option. We are extremely deep along that DL too compared to OLB.

ckparrothead
07-15-2010, 04:53 PM
Clemons can blitz but Culver is not a good blitzer at all. I've watched his blitzes. Actually I watched every single one of his snaps.

I don't know if Sean Smith is a good blitzer or not because he didn't do it once in 2009. Not even one time. Even Vontae got one blitz in there.

The Phil Merling OLB option was nixed the day Mike Nolan joined. Merling's not moving out to OLB. It could have been possible with Pasqualoni at the helm, the precedent was there with Matt Roth and they even tried Vonnie Holliday for a short period, and they had Merling play OLB in the second half of a couple of preseason games his rookie year. But Nolan will not have him there. He demands his LBs to be mobile.

RobertHorry
07-15-2010, 07:33 PM
Clemons can blitz but Culver is not a good blitzer at all. I've watched his blitzes. Actually I watched every single one of his snaps.

I don't know if Sean Smith is a good blitzer or not because he didn't do it once in 2009. Not even one time. Even Vontae got one blitz in there.

The Phil Merling OLB option was nixed the day Mike Nolan joined. Merling's not moving out to OLB. It could have been possible with Pasqualoni at the helm, the precedent was there with Matt Roth and they even tried Vonnie Holliday for a short period, and they had Merling play OLB in the second half of a couple of preseason games his rookie year. But Nolan will not have him there. He demands his LBs to be mobile.

I saw Smith blitz some in college and he isn't too bad of a blitzer. Its weird about Culver, because he is an explosive athlete. But if he was below par at blitzing, then theres no point in trying him there more. I remember Vontae's blitz. He got pressure fast and with ease, but I think we gave up a big play on that.

PhinsPhan11
07-15-2010, 09:27 PM
I saw Smith blitz some in college and he isn't too bad of a blitzer. Its weird about Culver, because he is an explosive athlete. But if he was below par at blitzing, then theres no point in trying him there more. I remember Vontae's blitz. He got pressure fast and with ease, but I think we gave up a big play on that.
Smith is a good blitzer he just didn't do it enough. I'm surprised that Culver is a below average blitzer, he seems like a good blitzer. With Vontae he may give up the big play, but his athleticism can make up for it most times.

Mr772
07-15-2010, 09:31 PM
I saw Smith blitz some in college and he isn't too bad of a blitzer. Its weird about Culver, because he is an explosive athlete. But if he was below par at blitzing, then theres no point in trying him there more. I remember Vontae's blitz. He got pressure fast and with ease, but I think we gave up a big play on that.

I'm not supprised by that. It seems like every other series we were giving up a big play.