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MOULDSROCKS
12-08-2003, 12:21 AM
and real good too!



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TH... in 10 games... with a broken leg and torn rib cartilage
Rush: 273
Yds: 1139
Avg: 4.2
TD's: 10
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RW... in 13 games
Rush: 325
Yds: 1081
Avg: 3.3
TD's: 7




It's time to give him his due respect for being such a warrior as well as an amazing player.
and that zachseau guy or whatever will tell you how bad our o-line is.

DolphinDevil28
12-08-2003, 12:24 AM
SIMPLY AMAZING you show up on a day the jills win and the Fins lose.

Where were you during our 3 game winning streak???

TerryTate
12-08-2003, 12:27 AM
Mouldsrocks, go back to Barfalo where you came from, if you arent gonna be here when we win and carry on decent conversation (which is what we do in here because its NOT the smack forum), then dont come by when we lose.....

Prime Time
12-08-2003, 12:28 AM
He was hiding.

Jimmy James
12-08-2003, 12:31 AM
Even if I hate to feed the Buffatrolls, I will say that Henry has shown a ton of guts this year. It's kinda sad that the Jills sold him out and that he'll most likely be doing the Stephen Davis thing this offseason...

Disgustipate
12-08-2003, 12:41 AM
Wow. Someone grew a pair. It only took him what, how many weeks to get the balls to come back here?

Tatonka
12-08-2003, 09:34 AM
just wanted to point out...for the year

Ricky Williams
1081 yards on 325 carries
8 TDs / 6 Fumbles lost

Travis Henry
1139 yards on 273 carries
11 TDs/ 1 Fumble lost (today was his first lost, unfortunately)

all that talk about trading travis for only 1 first round pick is crazy. henry is way ahead of where RW was after 3 years. Not only that, but henry has truely showed guts all season, by not only playing while injuried, but playing damn well.

the bills should keep this kid.

ps.. he only makes 400k a year, this year and next, then 1.5 mill in 2005.. rofl.


thoughts? do any of you dolphins fans actually consider henry to be in the same class as ricky? or do you blame the oline, play calling, ect..? because i know that buffalo's oline has been horrid this season, and our playcalling has been worse.. as you can see by henry's lack of carries, compaired to ricky's...

Den54
12-08-2003, 09:37 AM
Please crawl back under your rock.

Tatonka
12-08-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Den54
Please crawl back under your rock.

well.. thanks for the lively debate.. someone obviously pissed in your cornflakes this morning..

:lol:

HofCityFan
12-08-2003, 10:05 AM
You got what you the responce you were looking for. Nobody on a fin site could careless about Travis Henry and the year he is having.

FinFrenzy
12-08-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by HofCityFan
You got what you the responce you were looking for. Nobody on a fin site could careless about Travis Henry and the year he is having.


Bing Bing Bing We have a winner !!!! Take that debate back to billszone

SuperMarksBros.
12-08-2003, 10:11 AM
you clowns are going to finish in 4th place for the fourth straight year...3rd if you're lucky. and we're going to sweep you. take this nonsense elsewhere please.

Chambers34Phins
12-08-2003, 10:15 AM
Please don't compare a bad season by ricky williams to one of the better season you will ever see out of Travis.

philyphin
12-08-2003, 10:31 AM
Henry is gutsy player, he is having another good year, Ricky is a way better player, but isn't getting any help. Miami's offensive line is got to be the worst in the NFL. They can't protect the QB, can't open running lanes, Hell they can't even block a 3 man rush, I don't know if its line or there coaching, but something needs to change.

ZOD
12-08-2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Tatonka
just wanted to point out...for the year

Ricky Williams
1081 yards on 325 carries
8 TDs / 6 Fumbles lost

Travis Henry
1139 yards on 273 carries
11 TDs/ 1 Fumble lost (today was his first lost, unfortunately)

all that talk about trading travis for only 1 first round pick is crazy. henry is way ahead of where RW was after 3 years. Not only that, but henry has truely showed guts all season, by not only playing while injuried, but playing damn well.

the bills should keep this kid.

ps.. he only makes 400k a year, this year and next, then 1.5 mill in 2005.. rofl.


thoughts? do any of you dolphins fans actually consider henry to be in the same class as ricky? or do you blame the oline, play calling, ect..? because i know that buffalo's oline has been horrid this season, and our playcalling has been worse.. as you can see by henry's lack of carries, compaired to ricky's...

Tatonka,

I will give you kudos on having a good running back if you give me kudos for recognizing that Donahoe and his lap dogs at ESPN are morons.

Again, why did "the genius" draft a handicapped RB in the 1st round when his team obviously needed help elsewhere.

dolfan87
12-08-2003, 10:35 AM
Call me when Travis puts up 1800+ yards.

87

Bumrush
12-08-2003, 10:35 AM
Its not really a question of who is better. Henry is clearly having a better year than Ricky. It seems like Ricky isn't as focused as he was last year. If Henry continues to improve it may be very possible that he turns out to be the better back even if Ricky regains focus.

Justasportsfan
12-08-2003, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by ZOD


Tatonka,

I will give you kudos on having a good running back if you give me kudos for recognizing that Donahoe and his lap dogs at ESPN are morons.

Again, why did "the genius" draft a handicapped RB in the 1st round when his team obviously needed help elsewhere.

because there wasn't any player in the draft who could make an instant impact (based on studies then)left when it was time for the bills to pick. I've asked this back then and I'll ask it again, who would people have picked at 23? How many players before the 23rd are even making waves? A handful.

If McGahee turns out to be another great rb, we have trade bait for instant impact players or high draft picks.

Tatonka
12-08-2003, 10:44 AM
wow.. i guess it was a bad day to pick to have a debate about players..

philyphin
12-08-2003, 10:45 AM
Good for you more draft picks, if your trying to make fin fans jealous, cause you have had some 1st round picks, I think we have had one in the last 5 years, and we wasted it on Fletcher a midget Corner, who can't play at the NFL level.

Justasportsfan
12-08-2003, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by philyphin
Henry is gutsy player, he is having another good year, Ricky is a way better player, but isn't getting any help. Miami's offensive line is got to be the worst in the NFL. They can't protect the QB, can't open running lanes, Hell they can't even block a 3 man rush, I don't know if its line or there coaching, but something needs to change.

I still think RW is a better rb. Any rb who's been worked as hard as RW was early in the season is going to be burned out in the later part of the season because of the lack of a passing game.

Justasportsfan
12-08-2003, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Tatonka
wow.. i guess it was a bad day to pick to have a debate about players..

It's your sudden appearance after a bills win and a Dolphins loss that's got them ticked off Tatonka. :lol:

SuperMarksBros.
12-08-2003, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by justafan


because there wasn't any player in the draft who could make an instant impact (based on studies then)left when it was time for the bills to pick. I've asked this back then and I'll ask it again, who would people have picked at 23? How many players before the 23rd are even making waves?

buffalo had just completed a sign and trade...apparently, you guys thought price was more expendable than he really was, and you expected moulds to continue to play injury free football for many more years(i know i did ;) ). too much stock was put into josh reed, and unproven...who's had some decent games but is probably not your #2.

you asked who should've been taken at #23? i'll tell you, anquan boldin.

ZOD
12-08-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by justafan


because there wasn't any player in the draft who could make an instant impact (based on studies then)left when it was time for the bills to pick. I've asked this back then and I'll ask it again, who would people have picked at 23? How many players before the 23rd are even making waves? A handful.

If McGahee turns out to be another great rb, we have trade bait for instant impact players or high draft picks.

So what you are saying is that there was nobody out there that could improve your team?

Josh Reed didn't turn out to be what we thought now did he?

I told my brother-in-law (cowboys fan) I might take Bobby Shaw in a fantasy league and he said Bobby who?

The team had plenty of holes to fill. If this guy was such "a genius" he would have seen the talent. Instead........

He's riding on the "coach sucks" bandwagon and hiring another proven loser (Dick Lebau) to hang in the wings.

The organization hired a 4-6 defense coach and didn't give him the talent to suit the system that he knows.

They took on a bloated salary of a big name, average QB because of the prior failure.

Quite frankly, that entire organization is a mess from the management down to the players.

A "hodge podge" of rejects from around the NFL.

Muck
12-08-2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by justafan
It's your sudden appearance after a bills win and a Dolphins loss that's got them ticked off Tatonka. :lol:

It's also because his buddy MOULDSROCKS already had a thread about this (after not showing his face here for 2 months).

Maybe next week it'll be relevant. But right now, we're not in the mood to play these games.

XoPhinsoX
12-08-2003, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
and real good too!



----------------
TH... in 10 games... with a broken leg and torn rib cartilage
Rush: 273
Yds: 1139
Avg: 4.2
TD's: 10
----------------
RW... in 13 games
Rush: 325
Yds: 1081
Avg: 3.3
TD's: 7




It's time to give him his due respect for being such a warrior as well as an amazing player.
and that zachseau guy or whatever will tell you how bad our o-line is.

You're the biggest ****ing clown ever. Nobody gives a rats *** about Henry so stay on your own board. Besides, aren't you all up on McGahees balls yet?

Justasportsfan
12-08-2003, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by ZOD


So what you are saying is that there was nobody out there that could improve your team?

Josh Reed didn't turn out to be what we thought now did he?

I told my brother-in-law (cowboys fan) I might take Bobby Shaw in a fantasy league and he said Bobby who?

The team had plenty of holes to fill. If this guy was such "a genius" he would have seen the talent. Instead........

He's riding on the "coach sucks" bandwagon and hiring another proven loser (Dick Lebau) to hang in the wings.

The organization hired a 4-6 defense coach and didn't give him the talent to suit the system that he knows.

They took on a bloated salary of a big name, average QB because of the prior failure.

Quite frankly, that entire organization is a mess from the management down to the players.

A "hodge podge" of rejects from around the NFL. ZOD do you even watch the bills games?

Lebeau ? Ha!!! Who's got the no. 2 D in the NFL right now? Without a DE to compliment Shobel, lebeau brought in the Zone blitz and we a on top of the league. Imagine what we could do if we had a DE opposite Shobel. You are way off. Funny you should criticize the leagues second rated D since we hired Lebeau. :lol:

Our organization is a mess. How different is our team from the fins? You pick up a srub qb from Jacksonville who hasn't done squat in 4 years. You pick up Lucas and now Griese. Need I mention Nails who was a bills scrub who hasn't done anything but have 1 great season? What about Derrius Thompson?

Easy for you to criticize our draft when you guys have a bust in Fletcher.

Drew may suck right now but back then he was the best qb available. Apparently we got a OC who can't coach for crap. That was our teams biggest mistake.


It's been 3 years since the bills rebuilt from the bottom up . The fins hasn't had to rebuild but yet your team has regressed throught the years. I will admit the bills isn't all that but before you criticize an organization, yours isn't all that either and it isn't gonna get better next year when you are over the cap and still haven't found a qb that can make a difference.

Justasportsfan
12-08-2003, 12:18 PM
buffalo had just completed a sign and trade...apparently, you guys thought price was more expendable than he really was, and you expected moulds to continue to play injury free football for many more years(i know i did ). too much stock was put into josh reed, and unproven...who's had some decent games but is probably not your #2.

Things is it is easy for you to say Reed didn't pan out after the fact. Back then from a bills perspective we needed a DE more than a rookie wr. Whether the McGahee draft is genius, it remains to be seen.

Nobody was going nuts over Boldin during the draft. It's easy for you now to say we should've taken him because he panned out for the cardinals. During the draft when I asked finfans who would make an impact , no one said Boldin, not even you. :rolleyes:

Disgustipate
12-08-2003, 01:37 PM
No, serious. Tatonka, Mouldrocks..Someone, please explain to me what event prompted the sudden growth of testicles. You guys havent showed up in how long?

Losers.

Tatonka
12-08-2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Williams34Phins
Please don't compare a bad season by ricky williams to one of the better season you will ever see out of Travis.

as far as i can tell.. ricky has only had one good year.. unless you count that SOLID 1200 yard season he has in NO in his third season... prior to that.. 850, and 1000.. wow.. dominant.

he had one 1800 yard season.. and that was obviously a fluke... judging from his performance this season.

ZOD
12-08-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by justafan
ZOD do you even watch the bills games?

Lebeau ? Ha!!! Who's got the no. 2 D in the NFL right now? Without a DE to compliment Shobel, lebeau brought in the Zone blitz and we a on top of the league. Imagine what we could do if we had a DE opposite Shobel. You are way off. Funny you should criticize the leagues second rated D since we hired Lebeau. :lol:

Our organization is a mess. How different is our team from the fins? You pick up a srub qb from Jacksonville who hasn't done squat in 4 years. You pick up Lucas and now Griese. Need I mention Nails who was a bills scrub who hasn't done anything but have 1 great season? What about Derrius Thompson?

Easy for you to criticize our draft when you guys have a bust in Fletcher.

Drew may suck right now but back then he was the best qb available. Apparently we got a OC who can't coach for crap. That was our teams biggest mistake.


It's been 3 years since the bills rebuilt from the bottom up . The fins hasn't had to rebuild but yet your team has regressed throught the years. I will admit the bills isn't all that but before you criticize an organization, yours isn't all that either and it isn't gonna get better next year when you are over the cap and still haven't found a qb that can make a difference.

Justafan,

The "proven loser" originated from his time in Cincy where it turns out that they just needed some "direction".

As far as the critism of the Buffalo organization. I've watched (from afar) and the main thing that I have taken notice of is that your coach was a defensive coordinator. He was a defensive coordinator for a team that reached the Super Bowl running his scheme.

It just seems to me that with Donahoe and "all his glory" has taken a coach and turned him into a facilitator rather than give him the tools he needs to succeed.

As far as the Dolphins go you've witnessed my displeasure with the team and some of the decisions. Why would I criticize? Tatonka brought them (the bills) up.

With all the praise that was heaped upon Donahoe in the offseason, I think he should have to consume some of the blame for the results of this year.

I warned message board Bills fans about the danger of a team built by free agency. I even cited the 1995 Dolphins. I'm not saying the Dolphins organization is filled with excellence. I'm saying the Bills organization is farther away from it than what was presumed.

Justasportsfan
12-08-2003, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by ZOD


Justafan,

The "proven loser" originated from his time in Cincy where it turns out that they just needed some "direction".

As far as the critism of the Buffalo organization. I've watched (from afar) and the main thing that I have taken notice of is that your coach was a defensive coordinator. He was a defensive coordinator for a team that reached the Super Bowl running his scheme.

It just seems to me that with Donahoe and "all his glory" has taken a coach and turned him into a facilitator rather than give him the tools he needs to succeed.

As far as the Dolphins go you've witnessed my displeasure with the team and some of the decisions. Why would I criticize? Tatonka brought them (the bills) up.

With all the praise that was heaped upon Donahoe in the offseason, I think he should have to consume some of the blame for the results of this year.

I warned message board Bills fans about the danger of a team built by free agency. I even cited the 1995 Dolphins. I'm not saying the Dolphins organization is filled with excellence. I'm saying the Bills organization is farther away from it than what was presumed.

Again, you are way off. OUr D is the no. 2 D in the league and knocking at no. 1. GW was given every chance to succeed. Being a DC (like Wanny) GW does not have the brains to pick the right offensive shemes to do anything with the talent he had. He is brainless when it comes to run the O which is why he had no say in the way our O should be ran.

He chose Sheppard (bust) and now Gilbride (idiot). Even a retard will tell you that if we ran w/ Henry this team could be good. (check out the Pats, Redskin, Jets, Pats game) Everytime we went w/ pass to open up the run, we were horrible. This was evident at the second half of last year when coaches realized Gilbrides system.

FA'cy made this D where it's at and Lebeau helped a lot in getting us there. Is Lebaeu HC material? No. Just like Wanny and GW.

Sorry , your assessment of Greg Williams is wrong and any bills fan will tell you GW was given every oppurtunity by Donahoe to succeed. Problem is , since this D is at the top, Donahoe might keep GW.

MOULDSROCKS
12-11-2003, 10:05 PM
Henry Rocks!

dolfan06
12-14-2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
and real good too!



----------------
TH... in 10 games... with a broken leg and torn rib cartilage
Rush: 273
Yds: 1139
Avg: 4.2
TD's: 10
----------------
RW... in 13 games
Rush: 325
Yds: 1081
Avg: 3.3
TD's: 7




It's time to give him his due respect for being such a warrior as well as an amazing player.
and that zachseau guy or whatever will tell you how bad our o-line is. didn't i tell ya, the gang was just waitin for ya!:D