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TheLivingBeast
09-05-2010, 10:44 PM
Each position has 10 points, which will be divided up between the four teams.

QB
Patriots- 7
Bills- 1
Dolphins- 1
Jets- 1

RB
Bills- 4
Dolphins- 3
Jets- 2
Patriots- 1

WR
Patriots- 4
Dolphins- 2
Jets- 2
Bills- 2

TE
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 3
Patriots- 2
Bills- 1

Tackles
Dolphins- 5
Jets- 3
Patriots- 2
Bills- 0

Guards/Center
Bills- 3
Jets- 3
Dolphins- 2
Patriots- 2

NT
Patriots- 4
Jets- 2
Bills- 2
Dolphins- 2

DE
Jets- 3
Bills- 3
Dolphins- 3
Patriots- 1

OLB
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 2
Bills- 2
Patriots- 2

ILB
Jets- 3
Dolphins- 3
Bills- 2
Patriots- 2

CB
Bills- 5
Jets- 3 (without Revis)
Dolphins- 1
Patriots- 1

S
Bills- 5
Jets- 2
Patriots- 2
Dolphins- 1

ST
Bills- 3
Dolphins- 3
Jets- 2
Patriots- 2

Coaching
Patriots- 4
Bills- 2
Jets- 1
Dolphins- 3

Total
Patriots- 36
Bills- 35
Dolphins- 34
Jets- 35


Pretty Even if you ask me!

Up for grabs!

Ilovemyfins4eva
09-05-2010, 11:33 PM
i dont get these point things. how do the dolphins get a 1 for qb for example?

Jetsfan0099
09-06-2010, 01:03 AM
lol at the Bills homer.

Cloudy
09-06-2010, 01:49 AM
lol at the Bills homer.

This lol. I'm not even sure what is the point of this point ranking system that you've come up with.

TheLivingBeast
09-06-2010, 07:20 AM
Every position has 10 points. Now depending on how good you are at the position you would get more or less pooints. Like at QBTom Brady owns the rest of our division so he gets 7 out of the 10 points and the Jets, Dolphins and Bills get 1.

jetsknicks1
09-06-2010, 09:10 AM
Each position has 10 points, which will be divided up between the four teams.

QB
Patriots- 7
Bills- 1
Dolphins- 1
Jets- 1

RB
Bills- 4
Dolphins- 3
Jets- 2
Patriots- 1

WR
Patriots- 4
Dolphins- 2
Jets- 2
Bills- 2

TE
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 3
Patriots- 2
Bills- 1

Tackles
Dolphins- 5
Jets- 3
Patriots- 2
Bills- 0

Guards/Center
Bills- 3
Jets- 3
Dolphins- 2
Patriots- 2

NT
Patriots- 4
Jets- 2
Bills- 2
Dolphins- 2

DE
Jets- 3
Bills- 3
Dolphins- 3
Patriots- 1

OLB
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 2
Bills- 2
Patriots- 2

ILB
Jets- 3
Dolphins- 3
Bills- 2
Patriots- 2

CB
Bills- 5
Jets- 3 (without Revis)
Dolphins- 1
Patriots- 1

S
Bills- 5
Jets- 2
Patriots- 2
Dolphins- 1

ST
Bills- 3
Dolphins- 3
Jets- 2
Patriots- 2

Coaching
Patriots- 4
Bills- 2
Jets- 1
Dolphins- 3

Total
Patriots- 36
Bills- 35
Dolphins- 34
Jets- 35


Pretty Even if you ask me!

Up for grabs!

Exactly how high are you right now?

jetsknicks1
09-06-2010, 09:14 AM
Every position has 10 points. Now depending on how good you are at the position you would get more or less pooints. Like at QBTom Brady owns the rest of our division so he gets 7 out of the 10 points and the Jets, Dolphins and Bills get 1.

Sanchez & Henne get only 1 point?
Bill's ST are somehow better than the Jets?
Bills have the best CBs in the division?


All I can say is.................... Wow!

Fredjax
09-06-2010, 10:45 AM
QB
Patriots- 4
Jets - 3
Bills- 2
Dolphins- 1

RB
Bills- 4
Dolphins-3
Jets- 2
Patriots- 1

WR
Patriots- 4
Dolphins- 3
Jets- 2
Bills- 1

TE
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 3
Patriots- 2
Bills- 1

Tackles
Dolphins- 4
Jets- 3
Patriots- 2
Bills- 1

Guards/Center
Bills- 4
Jets- 3
Dolphins- 2
Patriots- 1

NT
Patriots- 4
Jets- 3
Bills- 2
Dolphins- 1

DE
Jets- 4
Bills- 3
Dolphins- 2
Patriots- 1

OLB
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 3
Bills- 2
Patriots- 1

ILB
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 3
Bills- 2
Patriots- 1

CB
Bills- 4
Jets- 3
Dolphins- 2
Patriots- 1

S
Bills- 4
Jets- 3
Patriots- 2
Dolphins- 1

ST
Dolphins 4
Bills- 3
Jets- 2
Patriots- 1

Coaching
Patriots- 4
Jets - 3
Dolphins- 2
Bills - 1

Total
Patriots- 29
Bills- 34
Dolphins- 34
Jets- 43

Very inaccurate

Ilovemyfins4eva
09-06-2010, 11:01 AM
QB
Patriots- 4
Jets - 3
Bills- 2
Dolphins- 1

RB
Bills- 4
Dolphins-3
Jets- 2
Patriots- 1

WR
Patriots- 4
Dolphins- 3
Jets- 2
Bills- 1

TE
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 3
Patriots- 2
Bills- 1

Tackles
Dolphins- 4
Jets- 3
Patriots- 2
Bills- 1

Guards/Center
Bills- 4
Jets- 3
Dolphins- 2
Patriots- 1

NT
Patriots- 4
Jets- 3
Bills- 2
Dolphins- 1

DE
Jets- 4
Bills- 3
Dolphins- 2
Patriots- 1

OLB
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 3
Bills- 2
Patriots- 1

ILB
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 3
Bills- 2
Patriots- 1

CB
Bills- 4
Jets- 3
Dolphins- 2
Patriots- 1

S
Bills- 4
Jets- 3
Patriots- 2
Dolphins- 1

ST
Dolphins 4
Bills- 3
Jets- 2
Patriots- 1

Coaching
Patriots- 4
Jets - 3
Dolphins- 2
Bills - 1

Total
Patriots- 29
Bills- 34
Dolphins- 34
Jets- 43

Very inaccurateu think the dolphins have the worst qb in the division? not saying he has proven enough yet, but aside from brady, henne is 2. no way sanchez and edwards r better than him.

especially sanchez, the kid was on a run first team last year, and yet still managed to throw 20 ints. the guy was putrid. he is the worst qb in the divison by far.

Jetsfan0099
09-06-2010, 12:32 PM
Whats with the Bills??

How do the Bills have better CB than the Jets?? Revis is officially back and hes arguably the best CB in the league, he blows away the Bills secondary by himself. Cromartie is probably better than any of the Bills CBs as well, then you have Kyle Wilson in the mix.

Bills safeties are missing Bryd who is injured and he was overrated anyways, horrible vs the run and had a lucky seaosn with passes thrown at him.

The Bills have the worst QB situation right now in the division, who cares how Edwards played in preseason, means nothing.

Spiller hasn't proven himself yet..

The Bills guards/center is CERTAINLY not better than the JEts, that is a joke. Jets have Nick Mangold the best center in the league and Brandon Moore a top 5 RG. Who do the Bills have? Even with a unproven LG the Jets are better there. Slauson has looked good in run blocking, his pass blocking needs some more work.

Jets don't have the 3rd WR corps in this division, maybe the first 4 games without Holmes. But once hes back the Jets WRs are good.

Jet Offensive
09-06-2010, 12:58 PM
Each position has 10 points, which will be divided up between the four teams.

QB
Patriots- 5
Bills- 1
Dolphins- 2.25
Jets- 1.75

RB
Bills- 2.5
Dolphins- 3
Jets- 4
Patriots- .5

WR
Patriots- 3.5
Dolphins- 2.75
Jets- 3.25 (would have had them tied with pats except holmes is out for 4 games)
Bills- .5

TE
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 2
Patriots- 3
Bills- 1

O-Line
Dolphins- 3.25
Jets- 4.5
Patriots- 2
Bills- .25

D-Line
Jets- 3
Bills- 1
Dolphins- 3.5
Patriots- 2.5

OLB
Jets- 4
Dolphins- 2
Bills- 2
Patriots- 2

ILB
Jets- 3
Dolphins- 2.5
Bills- 2
Patriots- 2.5

CB
Bills- 2
Jets- 6
Dolphins- 1
Patriots- 1

S
Bills- 3
Jets- 3
Patriots- 3
Dolphins- 1

ST
Bills- 2
Dolphins- 2
Jets- 4
Patriots- 2

Coaching
Patriots- 4 (even though he's a cheater)
Bills- .5
Jets- 3.25
Dolphins- 2.25

Total
Patriots- 31
Bills- 17.75
Dolphins- 30.5
Jets- 43.75





although coaching and qb are probably the most important and this number system means absolutely crapola anyway. but it does confirm one thing to me. the bills are probably going to suck and the jets, pats, and fins are going to battle it out.

MnMsGrly00
09-06-2010, 01:10 PM
Whats with the Bills??

How do the Bills have better CB than the Jets?? Revis is officially back and hes arguably the best CB in the league, he blows away the Bills secondary by himself. Cromartie is probably better than any of the Bills CBs as well, then you have Kyle Wilson in the mix.

Bills safeties are missing Bryd who is injured and he was overrated anyways, horrible vs the run and had a lucky seaosn with passes thrown at him.

The Bills have the worst QB situation right now in the division, who cares how Edwards played in preseason, means nothing.

Spiller hasn't proven himself yet..

The Bills guards/center is CERTAINLY not better than the JEts, that is a joke. Jets have Nick Mangold the best center in the league and Brandon Moore a top 5 RG. Who do the Bills have? Even with a unproven LG the Jets are better there. Slauson has looked good in run blocking, his pass blocking needs some more work.

Jets don't have the 3rd WR corps in this division, maybe the first 4 games without Holmes. But once hes back the Jets WRs are good.


Ok...Revis is hands down the best corner in the LEAGUE. Period.

It can be argued (and I'm sure we'd never agree) that Cromartie is not better than McGee. Before last year I'd say he was better than Florence but that may be debatable. At least our CB's can tackle. And McKelvin is a 1st round pick who is progressing very nicely.

As for Byrd, he is not overrated. Yes he needs to improve his game vs the run but against the pass, he's the best in the AFC East. The kid was an injured rookie, who didn't even play the entire year and yet still tied for the league lead in INT's with 9. I don't care who you are, or how it happened. That is impressive. You create your own luck in this game, by being prepared, being in the right spot at the right time, and having the pure ball skills to get INT's. Byrd has elite ball skills and I do remember him simply TAKING the ball from Braylon Edwards last year. The Bills safties are way better than anything the jets have to offer.

The preseason means nothing? Thats a lot of BS. I hear that a lot on these boards. The wins/losses mean nothing but how our starters play against their starters means SOMETHING. Spiller proved he can line up against an NFL defense and score. He proved he can make probowl defensive lineman and safetys miss (INDY GAME). Spiller is going to be a threat. He just is. As for Edwards this is the first time in a long time that our Offense has been productive. The score doesnt matter, that fact that we can move the ball and execute against opposing starting defenses is something we haven't seen in way too long. That confidence is carrying over into our season. The preseason does mean something. Yeah the Colts always suck in the win/loss column during the preseason but when you watch their starters they produce!

Our center is not better than the Jets. You are correct. However, I would take Levitre and Wood over your guards ANY DAY. Especially, Wood. Dude is an animal!

As for the WRs the Bills are definitely last in the division. Tough to rank the other teams but I'd probably give the lead to NE with Moss & Welker, followed by the Jets.

Deep2Evans
09-06-2010, 01:51 PM
then you have Kyle Wilson in the mix.



Spiller hasn't proven himself yet..




Hmmm interesting logic considering both are rookies...

Jetsfan0099
09-06-2010, 07:36 PM
Ok...Revis is hands down the best corner in the LEAGUE. Period.

It can be argued (and I'm sure we'd never agree) that Cromartie is not better than McGee. Before last year I'd say he was better than Florence but that may be debatable. At least our CB's can tackle. And McKelvin is a 1st round pick who is progressing very nicely.

As for Byrd, he is not overrated. Yes he needs to improve his game vs the run but against the pass, he's the best in the AFC East. The kid was an injured rookie, who didn't even play the entire year and yet still tied for the league lead in INT's with 9. I don't care who you are, or how it happened. That is impressive. You create your own luck in this game, by being prepared, being in the right spot at the right time, and having the pure ball skills to get INT's. Byrd has elite ball skills and I do remember him simply TAKING the ball from Braylon Edwards last year. The Bills safties are way better than anything the jets have to offer.

The preseason means nothing? Thats a lot of BS. I hear that a lot on these boards. The wins/losses mean nothing but how our starters play against their starters means SOMETHING. Spiller proved he can line up against an NFL defense and score. He proved he can make probowl defensive lineman and safetys miss (INDY GAME). Spiller is going to be a threat. He just is. As for Edwards this is the first time in a long time that our Offense has been productive. The score doesnt matter, that fact that we can move the ball and execute against opposing starting defenses is something we haven't seen in way too long. That confidence is carrying over into our season. The preseason does mean something. Yeah the Colts always suck in the win/loss column during the preseason but when you watch their starters they produce!

Our center is not better than the Jets. You are correct. However, I would take Levitre and Wood over your guards ANY DAY. Especially, Wood. Dude is an animal!

As for the WRs the Bills are definitely last in the division. Tough to rank the other teams but I'd probably give the lead to NE with Moss & Welker, followed by the Jets.

Jets CBs can tackle as well.... Only one with issues was Cromartie, yet to be seen what he does with us. Revis is a great tackler and Wilson in college was a fearless tackler.

To a Bills fan maybe Bryd isn't overrated. But from what I seen he was.... Balls were thrown RIGHT at him... The long TD runs by TJ vs the Bills were because of Bryd.

Preseason does mean nothing, all I care about is coming out injury free. Think what you want...

Go ahead and take the Bills guards over the Jets, neither are better than Moore right now. Slauson is unproven.

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Hmmm interesting logic considering both are rookies...

Nice nitpick.... Did I say the Jets CB were the best in the division because of Wilson? No.... You guys were ranking the Bills RB as the best because Spiller.

Deep2Evans
09-06-2010, 08:56 PM
Nice nitpick.... Did I say the Jets CB were the best in the division because of Wilson? No.... You guys were ranking the Bills RB as the best because Spiller.

I just thought it was funny you'd consider Wilson being a factor and only just say that he hasn't proven anything yet about Spiller.

Daytona Fin
09-06-2010, 09:13 PM
Every position has 10 points. Now depending on how good you are at the position you would get more or less pooints. Like at QBTom Brady owns the rest of our division so he gets 7 out of the 10 points and the Jets, Dolphins and Bills get 1.

how does brady own the fins? he actually sucks against and hates playing us.his record against the fins is his worst compared to all the other teams

MnMsGrly00
09-06-2010, 09:32 PM
Jets CBs can tackle as well.... Only one with issues was Cromartie, yet to be seen what he does with us. Revis is a great tackler and Wilson in college was a fearless tackler.

To a Bills fan maybe Bryd isn't overrated. But from what I seen he was.... Balls were thrown RIGHT at him... The long TD runs by TJ vs the Bills were because of Bryd.

Preseason does mean nothing, all I care about is coming out injury free. Think what you want...

Go ahead and take the Bills guards over the Jets, neither are better than Moore right now. Slauson is unproven.

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Nice nitpick.... Did I say the Jets CB were the best in the division because of Wilson? No.... You guys were ranking the Bills RB as the best because Spiller.


And exactly how many Bills games have you seen? Because I've seen each and every one. Not all of the INTs fell into his lap and if you'd like proof I would be MORE than happy to post some GIF's of him making plays, and you can bet one of them would be of Byrd out muscling Braylon for the football. Like I said above, 9 INTs by a rookie safety who didn't even play the entire season is impressive. But I don't expect a Jets fan to give us props. Nor do I need it, he made the probowl for a reason....because the rest of the NFL knows how it is.

Everyone cares about coming out of the preseason injury free. But we all know had your offense been clicking from the start and showing progression from game 1 to 4, you would be singing a different tune. Instead Sanchez struggled, and I'm sure those struggles will follow him into the season.

Jetsfan0099
09-07-2010, 12:03 AM
And exactly how many Bills games have you seen? Because I've seen each and every one. Not all of the INTs fell into his lap and if you'd like proof I would be MORE than happy to post some GIF's of him making plays, and you can bet one of them would be of Byrd out muscling Braylon for the football. Like I said above, 9 INTs by a rookie safety who didn't even play the entire season is impressive. But I don't expect a Jets fan to give us props. Nor do I need it, he made the probowl for a reason....because the rest of the NFL knows how it is.

Everyone cares about coming out of the preseason injury free. But we all know had your offense been clicking from the start and showing progression from game 1 to 4, you would be singing a different tune. Instead Sanchez struggled, and I'm sure those struggles will follow him into the season.

He did not "out muscle" Edwards for the ball.... The ball was basically thrown to Bryd and Edwards tried to take it away after he had it...

And no I wouldn't be singing a different tune... If you were on my Jets board you would know that I say this every year good or bad that preseason means nothing. I have seen QB look great in preseason than go to garbage in the regular season, I have seen QB look horrible in preseason than good regular seasons. I have seen teams look great than be garbage and teams look bad than be great.

Go on ahead and think that the Bills are this great team though.

Jetsfan0099
09-07-2010, 12:04 AM
I just thought it was funny you'd consider Wilson being a factor and only just say that he hasn't proven anything yet about Spiller.
Didn't say that Spiller wouldn't be a factor in the season, just talking about having the Bills as the best RBs for Spiller.

MnMsGrly00
09-07-2010, 12:44 AM
He did not "out muscle" Edwards for the ball.... The ball was basically thrown to Bryd and Edwards tried to take it away after he had it...

And no I wouldn't be singing a different tune... If you were on my Jets board you would know that I say this every year good or bad that preseason means nothing. I have seen QB look great in preseason than go to garbage in the regular season, I have seen QB look horrible in preseason than good regular seasons. I have seen teams look great than be garbage and teams look bad than be great.

Go on ahead and think that the Bills are this great team though.


Here's the link:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/buffalo-bills/09000d5d813823e2/WK-6-Can-t-Miss-Play-Byrd-s-2nd-INT

Edwards completely mistimed his jump and then couldn't wrestle away the ball. I thought Edwards had it but he never really did. Listen to what they say and watch it. The ball was thrown into double coverage. Byrd made a great play on the ball. That's skill. It wasn't thrown directly to him.

And I don't think the Bills are a great team. But we will be better than last year.

jetsknicks1
09-07-2010, 09:59 AM
u think the dolphins have the worst qb in the division? not saying he has proven enough yet, but aside from brady, henne is 2. no way sanchez and edwards r better than him.

especially sanchez, the kid was on a run first team last year, and yet still managed to throw 20 ints. the guy was putrid. he is the worst qb in the divison by far.

There's no doubt that Sanchez went through some serious growing pains last year. In the overall QB rankings for the 2009 regular season, Henne graded out at #22 & Sanchez at #23. So, it's not like Henne was "By far" the better QB.

Mo Lewis
09-07-2010, 02:08 PM
Those rankings are hilarious. The Bills are going to be terrible this year. Spiller will be a real good player. But the offense is horrid. The defense isnt much better. Aside from 3-4 players, I wouldnt want any of them on my team. I think Patriots and Dolphins fans feel the same way.

mindstate
09-08-2010, 01:33 PM
Football Outsiders has nothing on this thread.

da305kid
09-08-2010, 04:08 PM
I tell you most of the bills fans here are homers who try to talk up their own team unsuccessfully, dont worry a week 1 pounding will send em back to their boards. I hope

kdels62
09-09-2010, 11:07 AM
Jarius Byrd is an awesome talent. You can't say that he just got lucky on ints, he was in the right place at the right time which is what safeties are supposed to do.

Anyone who doesn't have QBs at:
Pats: 7
Jets:1
Dolphins: 1
Bills: 1
is pretty much a homer.