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X-Pacolypse
09-06-2010, 01:07 PM
Who ya got?

Rafiki
09-06-2010, 01:12 PM
Boise State 28 - Virginia Tech 20

TedSlimmJr
09-06-2010, 01:47 PM
I have VT winning the game but I think it has to be a relatively low scoring game.... Pound the football on the ground and keep the ball out of hands of the Boise offense...

If it turns into a shootout, I think it favors Boise...

The difference in the game is also likely to be a big special teams play..... Beamerball (blocked punt, blocked field goal, etc.)... or a big return by Jarrett Boykin or Dyrell Roberts...




Boise St. - 23

Virginia Tech - 24

BobDole
09-06-2010, 02:49 PM
this will be a good game. i just don't think boise can handle that D. VT - 17 , Boise - 14.

emeraldfin
09-06-2010, 06:22 PM
Really looking forward to this game. I think VT will win, but it will be close.

tylerdolphin
09-06-2010, 06:27 PM
Im taking Boise. 27-24

chrisbaucom
09-06-2010, 07:26 PM
VT 31 - Boise St. 27

Namor
09-06-2010, 07:48 PM
VT-28 Boise St-14...

JCane
09-06-2010, 08:16 PM
I'm in late but I'm rolling with Boise State even though Virginia Tech is obviously the better team. Boise State isn't a team you want to run into early in the season when they have everything on the line. But for the Broncos to win, they have to be able to score a lot of points (duh) because I don't think the Broncos defense is capable of stopping Virginia Tech's athletes.

BobDole
09-06-2010, 08:35 PM
well this is an interesting start to the game. VT looks lost - getting thoroughly out-coached.

had tyrod not under thrown that first pass by 10 yards this might be a tad different - already came back to bite them.

those 10 points have been a gift so far. i'd be shocked if boise continues to move the ball. the boise D looks really good - very surprising.

ChambersWI
09-06-2010, 08:43 PM
Boise is one of those teams that you keep doubting, and they keep proving you wrong. Peterson is one of the best coaches in college football in terms of game planning. Boise doesn't have great talent, but are slowly starting to put more players in the NFL, but Peterson has beaten teams by out scheming other coaches.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 08:52 PM
VT is getting worked.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 08:53 PM
i'll take boise in a laugher...lol

i love when va tech gets their ***** handed to them...bud foster has got his hands full this year with that young d...

my god is boise's d line kicking the hokies olines ***...

BobDole
09-06-2010, 08:53 PM
ryan williams can't get out of the backfield. boise st is dominating this game in the trenches. pretty shocking thus far.

v-tech needs to get cute. boise st has their game plan down.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 09:04 PM
TD hokies. They needed that badly.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 09:11 PM
Not sure why the CB didn't didn't go for the ball as it was in the air. Stupid...

BobDole
09-06-2010, 09:15 PM
moore is really impressing me. knows where the pressure is coming from - dumping it out in time.

i still say va tech wins this game. they look awful but the D will wake up at some point.

they're having no luck running the ball. time to start airing it out coach. set up the running game moron.

BobDole
09-06-2010, 09:17 PM
someone was listening to me ...

BobDole
09-06-2010, 09:23 PM
why do they keep running the ball? it ain't workin. taylor is 3-3 for 74 yards - yet the keep running on 1st and 2nd down.

this getting out coached at it's finest. hey beamer - they knew you were gonna try to run it through them. time to do some game planning bud.

i feel like i'm watching the UF/bama game last season. fugg.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 09:24 PM
VT is getting dominated in the trenches. Taylor and Williams can't get any type of blocking. VT needs to scrap the end arounds and fake end arounds, not going to work with your O-Line getting owned.

BobDole
09-06-2010, 09:26 PM
VT is getting dominated in the trenches. Taylor and Williams can't get any type of blocking. VT needs to scrap the end arounds and fake end arounds, not going to work with your O-Line getting owned.

they've got to do something. it's not working. they haven't changed anything yet.

that fumble recovery was huge.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 09:26 PM
Great play by the defense. You knew some turnovers were coming. This defense is just too talented to not make some big plays.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 09:28 PM
And there goes yet another end around for minimum yardage...

BobDole
09-06-2010, 09:29 PM
shocked beamer hasn't been letting taylor do his thing with the play action. a screen pass would even work wonders. change it up you jackass.

TD. that was big.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 09:29 PM
Hokies right back in this one.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 09:36 PM
Hokies better step up the defense or Boise is going to put up points before the half...

BobDole
09-06-2010, 09:40 PM
very interesting half. va tech better wake the fugg up. nothing against boise - but i don't want them going undefeated this season. someone with a real schedule gets screwed if they do - why i hate the BCS more than life itself.

Bumpus
09-06-2010, 09:46 PM
:lol: **** those Big East TURNCOAT Hokies. :lol:

Go Boise!

Clipse
09-06-2010, 09:48 PM
very interesting half. va tech better wake the fugg up. nothing against boise - but i don't want them going undefeated this season. someone with a real schedule gets screwed if they do - why i hate the BCS more than life itself.

Don't really care about Boise, but hoping VT is undefeated when we dust them off. Can only help our cause for a NC after we beat OSU next week.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 09:50 PM
Wow... Dude jumped over the line, sacked the QB and forced a fumble in the Maryland game.

BobDole
09-06-2010, 09:51 PM
Don't really care about Boise, but hoping VT is undefeated when we dust them off. Can only help our cause for a NC after we beat OSU next week.

i have OSU playing for a title this year - if you guys beat them i'm officially on board.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 09:55 PM
i have OSU playing for a title this year - if you guys beat them i'm officially on board.

Will be a great game that's for sure. Our chance to prove to the world the U is back. Will do wonders from a recruiting standpoint as well.

Namor
09-06-2010, 09:57 PM
I'm not impressed with either of these teams.
At all!!!!

Bumpus
09-06-2010, 10:02 PM
ROAR!

Gash that Hokie D. :lol:

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:05 PM
Fine job by the CB there.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:14 PM
That's a fumble. Another takeaway by the Hokies.

Bumpus
09-06-2010, 10:15 PM
(sigh)

They're gonna choke.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:19 PM
Ricky, err Ryan Williams is a stud. What I would give to have us draft him next year.

Bumpus
09-06-2010, 10:20 PM
Well, now we know Linda Lovelace wasn't from Idaho. :chuckle:

JCane
09-06-2010, 10:20 PM
Ricky, err Ryan Williams is a stud. What I would give to have us draft him next year.

First round draft pick? Hell no. No way I'll EVER want to draft a running back in the first round again.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:24 PM
Great run. TD Boise.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:26 PM
First round draft pick? Hell no. No way I'll EVER want to draft a running back in the first round again.

Too bad for you. Ryan Williams will be a perennial pro bowler.

Bumpus
09-06-2010, 10:26 PM
Well, now we know Linda Lovelace wasn't from Idaho. :chuckle:

ROAR!

... then a botched extra point.


This game's turning out to be really entertaining. :up:

JCane
09-06-2010, 10:32 PM
Not saying Ryan Williams isn't a nice player. But with the shelf life of running backs in the league, and the transition to more of a passing league, it just doesn't make much sense to draft a running back high in the first round. Teams are getting to the playoffs and winning big with stud quarterbacks and big time receivers. I've NEVER been a fan of Brandon Marshall but I knew we had to go out and get a big time target.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:35 PM
TD Hokies on 4th and 5.

chrisbaucom
09-06-2010, 10:35 PM
What a momentum swing.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:37 PM
Not saying Ryan Williams isn't a nice player. But with the shelf life of running backs in the league, and the transition to more of a passing league, it just doesn't make much sense to draft a running back high in the first round. Teams are getting to the playoffs and winning big with stud quarterbacks and big time receivers. I've NEVER been a fan of Brandon Marshall but I knew we had to go out and get a big time target.

Really it's a moot point because Ryan Williams is a top 10 player imo, and I don't think we'll have a top 10 pick.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:38 PM
Tyrod Taylor hurt on the 2 point conversion. Big blow if he misses some time.

JCane
09-06-2010, 10:38 PM
We end up with a top 10 pick and someone needs to be fired.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 10:39 PM
ehhh...i don't know about top 10 pick with williams...i might go top 20...he looks leaner and has more burst imo this year...but i really wonder if he'll stay healthy at the next level...he's catching the ball pretty well also...he looks good

this stadium is no **** 85 percent plus va tech...figures the gobblers wouldn't ever even think of going to play them in boise...

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:41 PM
Just cramps for Tyrod Taylor.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 10:41 PM
ohio st in the national champ game...lol not buying that by a long shot...right now i think this is bamas baby again...they're gonna skull **** penn st and that freshman qb saturday

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:41 PM
ehhh...i don't know about top 10 pick with williams...i might go top 20...he looks leaner and has more burst imo this year...but i really wonder if he'll stay healthy at the next level...he's catching the ball pretty well also

this stadium is no **** 85 percent plus va tech...figures the gobblers wouldn't ever even think of going to play them in boise...

Top 15 is the worst I see him going.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 10:42 PM
We end up with a top 10 pick and someone needs to be fired.

start with the oc...

JCane
09-06-2010, 10:46 PM
ohio st in the national champ game...lol not buying that by a long shot...right now i think this is bamas baby again...they're gonna skull **** penn st and that freshman qb saturday

Alabama drops two games I think. That schedule doesn't play in their favor at all. I'd be very concerned with that schedule.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:47 PM
start with the oc...

And John Bonamego.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:49 PM
Doug Martin has looked real impressive tonight. The Boise O-Line has been terrific though.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 10:51 PM
That missed FG is going to bite Boise in the ***.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 10:54 PM
nice snap center...great 1 hopper on the fg attempt...moron

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Alabama drops two games I think. That schedule doesn't play in their favor at all. I'd be very concerned with that schedule.

they're loaded bro...loaded

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 10:55 PM
isn't that left tackle potter for boise highly rated??? he's having issues in pass pro...got the qb killed on one play never laid a hand on the rusher from the outside

chrisbaucom
09-06-2010, 10:55 PM
Why would they travel to Boise to play? There's no money in it for them. A 50,000 seat stadium is a joke. Boise should be greatful they're getting a game like this.

chrisbaucom
09-06-2010, 10:57 PM
Bama has the most un fair schedule I've ever seen. I think its 7 games vs. Teams off a bye. They will get bit somewhere, don't care how loaded they are.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 10:59 PM
that pettis kid looks to me like another guy who in that o is gonna have a ton of numbers at wr but i'm not sure i'm gonna like him at the next level...like his hands but he looks like a possession and red zone wr to me...and he's been getting free releases all night so kind of hard to gauge his ability to separate...

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:00 PM
Bama has the most un fair schedule I've ever seen. I think its 7 games vs. Teams off a bye. They will get bit somewhere, don't care how loaded they are.

please tell me you don't think you'd beat bama??? please tell me...they'd white wash any team in the acc

never looked at bamas sched but i think they're the most talented and best team in the country...again

Clipse
09-06-2010, 11:01 PM
VT's O-Line has been pathetic in run blocking.

chrisbaucom
09-06-2010, 11:04 PM
Never said that, just saying their schedule is extremely un forgiving. They are a great team, with a lot of land mines along the way.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 11:05 PM
Bad drop.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:05 PM
what a gay roughing the passer call that was...soccer worthy acting job there...gay

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:07 PM
i like the canes this year...you may well win the acc...but you don't want bama...trust me lol

love hankerson at wr...love him

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:09 PM
boise is playing some awfully soft man coverage on the outside...good grief that **** is pitch and catch

Namor
09-06-2010, 11:11 PM
Why would they travel to Boise to play? There's no money in it for them. A 50,000 seat stadium is a joke. Boise should be greatful they're getting a game like this.

I think their stadium only holds about 35,000.
It makes it worse,who wants to go to that small of a stadium out of conferance.
If you want to be big time ,build a damn stadium that can attract people.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:12 PM
and there's ryan williams slow to get up...his durability is a concern of mine...

Clipse
09-06-2010, 11:12 PM
Great tackle.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:13 PM
I think their stadium only holds about 35,000.
It makes it worse,who wants to go to that small of a stadium out of conferance.
If you want to be big time ,build a damn stadium that can attract people.

i agree with that...i'm just sayin they are showing some balls coming this far to play in a "neutral" game...lmao nothing neutral about this one

its a va tech home game

Namor
09-06-2010, 11:14 PM
Alabama drops two games I think. That schedule doesn't play in their favor at all. I'd be very concerned with that schedule.

JC...my brother...we'll work it out,need your Canes to take care of Ohio State.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 11:15 PM
i like the canes this year...you may well win the acc...but you don't want bama...trust me lol

love hankerson at wr...love him

He's an even better person than he is a WR. He has a bright future in the NFL.

Namor
09-06-2010, 11:18 PM
i agree with that...i'm just sayin they are showing some balls coming this far to play in a "neutral" game...lmao nothing neutral about this one

its a va tech home game
I agree with you also..its all Boise can do is grab bigger teams at neutral sites or bite the bullit and go play on the road.
No one is going to schedule a home and away series at that stadium.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:26 PM
and a bs block in the back call on the return...your welcome va tech

Clipse
09-06-2010, 11:29 PM
TD Boise.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:30 PM
ha ha...that qbs got stones for balls!!!! ha ha...va tech suck on that

Nappy Roots
09-06-2010, 11:31 PM
That's not the first time tonight a BSU wideout ran right past soft VT coverage

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:32 PM
was that greivis vasquez that pettis beat...lmao

Clipse
09-06-2010, 11:35 PM
Boise wins it.

Clipse
09-06-2010, 11:36 PM
ha ha...that qbs got stones for balls!!!! ha ha...va tech suck on that

Dude looks like a legit NFL QB. Love his poise. Love his accuracy. Love his decision making. Seen him pointing out the blitz, and making adjustments.

Bumpus
09-06-2010, 11:39 PM
Helluva game.

Nappy Roots
09-06-2010, 11:39 PM
Does he have an NFL arm though?

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:41 PM
Dude looks like a legit NFL QB. Love his poise. Love his accuracy. Love his decision making. Seen him pointing out the blitz, and making adjustments.

throws the ball off his back foot way too much...accurate but not a pro...a great college qb...not much arm

but this kid is what college football is all about

JCane
09-06-2010, 11:42 PM
Kellen Moore would not cut it at the next level.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:43 PM
good luck beating that boise team in conference boys...i love that head coach...he goes for the jugular...no fear...ever

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:45 PM
Kellen Moore would not cut it at the next level.

yep...but he can bang every college coed in boise...lol

JCane
09-06-2010, 11:48 PM
JC...my brother...we'll work it out,need your Canes to take care of Ohio State.

Very concerned with this game man. Very concerned. We have A LOT of questions. I seen several things Thursday night that I didn't like at all. We have some serious matchup problems with Ohio State.

My biggest concern, as always, is coaching. Seantrel Henderson needs to play NOW but won't play enough on Saturday. We have to keep J12 upright and allow him time to find the open man because the Ohio State secondary cannot match speed with our wideouts. Kylan Robinson has about as much business on the field of play as I do. Our linebackers are a HUGE hole. McCarthy and Spence are both undersized at their positions and we have nothing to put in place of Robinson outside of Ramon Buchanon.

We have to contain Terrelle Pryor. I seen FAMU's QB scramble several times Thursday night and it scared me. I haven't had a chance to sit down with the film from Thursday as I just got back from Miami late tonight...flying into Cleveland Friday morning for the Ohio State game on Saturday...not sure if I'll have time to even look at the tape.

hooshoops
09-06-2010, 11:51 PM
you guys can call me crazy but in a bcs game teams do not want to face boise...they do so many unorthodox things etc that if you give that team and head coach a month to prepare you may well end up getting your *** handed to you...

JCane
09-06-2010, 11:57 PM
you guys can call me crazy but in a bcs game teams do not want to face boise...they do so many unorthodox things etc that if you give that team and head coach a month to prepare you may well end up getting your *** handed to you...

Exactly. And it's coaching like that which helps me make A LOT of money in the first week of college football. I flat ROBBED the bookie a few years ago when Alabama and Clemson played in the opener. Alabama +7 and I get Nick Saban against Tommy Bowden lololololol. As crazy as it sounds, Les Miles is another one you can cash in on. LUCKILY for me, I got the LSU - North Carolina game when it first opened at LSU -4.5. Had I waited and got it at LSU -9 I would have lost my *** because I bet heavy on that game.

I also took Utah over that scrub *** Dave Wannstedt outright on Saturday.

hooshoops
09-07-2010, 12:00 AM
Exactly. And it's coaching like that which helps me make A LOT of money in the first week of college football. I flat ROBBED the bookie a few years ago when Alabama and Clemson played in the opener. Alabama +7 and I get Nick Saban against Tommy Bowden lololololol. As crazy as it sounds, Les Miles is another one you can cash in on. LUCKILY for me, I got the LSU - North Carolina game when it first opened at LSU -4.5. Had I waited and got it at LSU -9 I would have lost my *** because I bet heavy on that game.

I also took Utah over that scrub *** Dave Wannstedt outright on Saturday.

you can't go wrong betting against dave wannstedt...i don't know how that guy can coach pee wee let alone d1

i don't know the line penn st vs bama but if i'm betting my chips are all in with bama...all in

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 12:02 AM
I'm with Namor, neither of these teams impressed me... they both have weaknesses...

Congrats to the Boise fan... good team, well coached, etc...




NOW.. Just imagine having to play a game of this magnitude, this taxing, this brutal, this much of a tester half a dozen times a year... because that's what it's like to play in a major BCS conference... and that's without even factoring in the conference championship game (which the WAC never had) and a bowl game...

I think that's what Boise fans that whine about not getting the respect they deserve just don't understand.... This game was Boise's season... it was virtually a one game season (other than Oregon St.)... then they get to play a bunch of teams in the WAC like San Jose St. every week that Bama just beat 48-3 with backups and 3rd stringers...

I knew if VT let it get into a shootout that it favored Boise St.... Looking back, VT can say they lost this game in the 1st quarter by letting Boise get up 17-0.... VT outscored 'em 30-9 over the next 2 quarters....

Again, that's the problem you run into when playing these teams who only have to get up for one or two games a year...

I think they're both top 10 teams... but neither is top 3... VT is going to have issues if their offensive line keeps getting whipped like that all year... Tyrod Taylor is pretty good when he has time to improvise, but if you get pressure on him with your front 4 he can't handle it... he holds the football too long..

Incredible game to watch though... this is what college football is all about... It blows the NFL away in my opinion...

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 12:29 AM
Kellen Moore is a nice little system quarterback, but he ain't an NFL prospect... a late rounder who might fit in a WCO..

He can't push the ball down the field consistently and he's not quite as accurate as you think when you get into the details... things like ball placement and leading receivers...


Ryan Williams is going to be quite an NFL prospect at RB soon.. but I don't think he's NFL ready just yet. I think people tend to forget that he's still 1 game past being a redshirt freshman. He's not in Mark Ingram's category yet as far as being NFL ready... Williams legs tend to go dead on contact in certain instances, you won't ever see that out of Ingram. Williams needs to continue to get stronger in his lower body and run with better balance, and he will as he matures and gets stronger.

Certainly not a top 10 pick... borderline 1st rounder based on upside who probably still needs to go ahead and stay for his junior season... his slight deficiencies are only going to be multiplied X10 at the NFL level right now and most likely wouldn't even start for a season or so...



The best two NFL prospects on the field in the game were Jarrett Boykin and Austin Pettis... Boykin is so incredibly talented, he just needs to work on catching the football EVERY time (as does Julio)... Austin Pettis is one of the best route runners in college football, but his ceiling is as a #2 WR in the NFL... very nice player..

BobDole
09-07-2010, 01:00 AM
i fell asleep in the beginning of the third quarter. also not impressed with either team. very impressed with moore (as a college QB) and peterson, however. that coach knew exactly what beamer was gonna do and game planned perfectly to stop it. it was clear va tech had the superior talent - i'll need to catch the 2nd half and see what happened.

va tech lost that game in the first half, for sure. kept doing the same **** that wasn't working. just stupidity and arrogance on his part. boise deserved this one.

gonna be pulling for oregon st hard. really don't want to see and legitimate team get screwed. fugg you BCS.

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 01:16 AM
So give your power rankings after week 1... How would everyone rank the top 10 teams? Not how you think they'll rank in the AP, but how YOU would rank them based on this weekend...

BobDole
09-07-2010, 01:18 AM
So give your power rankings after week 1... How would everyone rank the top 10 teams? Not how you think they'll rank in the AP, but how YOU would rank them based on this weekend...

absolutely not. :lol:

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 01:26 AM
I'll do it for you then Bob....:lol:


1. Alabama

2. Ohio St.

3. Iowa

4. USC

5. Boise St.

6. Nebraska

7. Virginia Tech

8. Texas

9. Florida St.

10. Florida




That's how I would have 'em...

BobDole
09-07-2010, 01:36 AM
okay i'll play. not cool.

1. alabama

2. ohio st

3. oregon

4. nebraska

5. iowa

6. FSU

7. TCU

8. auburn

9. wisconsin

10. texas

based on the weekend at least ...

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 01:49 AM
You really like Auburn don't you Bob? That's a lot of points to give up to Arkansas St.... turned the football over too many times for my taste.


Oregon ran the score up on a high school team... I'm not sold yet.


Don't think USC is a top 10 team, eh? Interesting...


It was hard for me to put Texas in the top 10, they took forever to get going against an overmatched Rice team... but they're a good team, and there's really nobody worthy of replacing them.

Florida will get it going, they'll get the snap issues worked out one way or the other...

Rafiki
09-07-2010, 02:29 AM
I knew you folks wouldn't give BSU the respect deserved even after this game. Even though the lot of you said you would.

No big whoop. Haters gonna hate.

BobDole
09-07-2010, 02:31 AM
i was just impressed that auburn had an offense. they always have a D. they got a chance this year man.

they all ran the scores up on high school teams. oregon just did it the best.

i hate USC and they let hawaii put up a bunch of points. can't judge it all based on barkley. that D does not impress me - especially the secondary.

texas looked like ****. almost as bad as florida.

as far as UF - they looked horrible against a 1-11 team. worst offensive outing i've ever seen from them (and i remember the zook years). i have no doubt urban will whip that offense into shape but i was following the rules you laid out - my top 10 teams based on the weekend. UF has no place on that list based on the weekend.

Rafiki
09-07-2010, 02:38 AM
Go VT!

Win the ACC!

F the jaded know-it-alls!

BobDole
09-07-2010, 02:40 AM
I knew you folks wouldn't give BSU the respect deserved even after this game. Even though the lot of you said you would.

No big whoop. Haters gonna hate.

it's not that. mad props coaching circles around a talented va tech team. you made beamer look like a doofus in the first half. my problem is if boise runs the table they get a shot at the title. granted, you have 1 more tough game this year than usual - two - but still. do people want to see a team get a title shot that doesn't play an actual schedule? i don't think so man.

God forbid UF wins every game but bama, or vice versa. you're gonna tell me that an undefeated boise team is more deserving that a 1 loss UF team? just look at the schedules.

it's not that i don't root for boise - i do. i just hate that they got ranked 3 b/c now someone more deserving will get screwed. squeaking by 1 (or 2) good teams a year doesn't do it for me. it's the BCS man - it's the worst. college football needs playoffs. i hate these conversations - b/c it's not at all i slight against boise - trust me.

Rafiki
09-07-2010, 02:43 AM
it's not that. mad props coaching circles around a talented va tech team. you made beamer look like a doofus in the first half. my problem is if boise runs the table they get a shot at the title. granted, you have 1 more tough game this year than usual - two - but still. do people want to see a team get a title shot that doesn't play an actual schedule? i don't think so man.

God forbid UF wins every game but bama, or vice versa. you're gonna tell me that an undefeated boise team is more deserving that a 1 loss UF team? just look at the schedules.

it's not that i don't root for boise - i do. i just hate that they got ranked 3 b/c now someone more deserving will get screwed. squeaking by 1 (or 2) good teams a year doesn't do it for me. it's the BCS man - it's the worst. college football needs playoffs. i hate these conversations - b/c it's not at all i slight against boise - trust me.

Your fave teams made this system...

Boise has been against it from the beginning. Now that BSU has the advantage through your F'd up system, now the big schools want to whine.

Give us a playoff.

BobDole
09-07-2010, 02:48 AM
Your fave teams made this system...

Boise has been against it from the beginning. Now that BSU has the advantage through your F'd up system, now the big schools want to whine.

Give us a playoff.

pretty much man. :lol:

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 03:20 AM
Boise barely scraped by the best opponent they'll face all season.... Do they deserve respect? Absolutely..

Do they deserve to be shoved in the title game already like everyone is trying to do? Absolutely not...

I'm all for the playoff... always have been... Problem is, even in that scenario there's going to be teams with 2 losses that deserve a playoff spot over ANY team (even if they are in a BCS conference) that's going undefeated with Boise's schedule...

Ohio St. could lose to Miami next week and run the table the rest of the way and it's going to be more impressive than squeaking by VT and then running off a series of W's against the WAC and a Pac-10 team with 1 loss already...




Bama could spot Boise 14 points and I'd still take Bama...and I'm dead serious. Virginia Tech spotted them 17 and still should've won the game..


When you guys leave the WAC for the MWC, I want Bama to take Boise's spot in the WAC.. Fill out our OOC schedule with VT, Clemson, etc. and some ranked team from Oregon and.. BAM!! We deserve a shot in the title game baby...

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 03:26 AM
Your fave teams made this system...

Boise has been against it from the beginning. Now that BSU has the advantage through your F'd up system, now the big schools want to whine.

Give us a playoff.


Boise doesn't have the advantage... how many NC games have they played in?

SEC fans wouldn't want a free ride to the title game... The point is they want the team that they're going to play in it to deserve to be there also...

Rafiki
09-07-2010, 03:30 AM
Blah blah blah Ted Slimm...

You were one of those who said that this game would prove or disprove BSU. Now that's not the case. What do you need?

Would you like a big conference to invite BSU? I'm sure they want the same.

Rafiki
09-07-2010, 03:35 AM
HA I just had a thought.

What was Ole Miss's best ranking last year?

Oh boy that conference play sure could grant them a BCS bowl, and that's for real! What a joke.

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 03:43 AM
Blah blah blah Ted Slimm...

You were one of those who said that this game would prove or disprove BSU. Now that's not the case. What do you need?

Would you like a big conference to invite BSU? I'm sure they want the same.


I honestly meant that when I said it too... But I can't honestly with good conscience say that Boise St. was the better team tonight Rafiki...

Boise has my respect, you can believe that... they can play some football and are well coached. I just don't think they could pull out a game like tonight against that quality of an opponent 4-5 weeks in a row...

I'm all for a playoff... but if I was a Boise fan I wouldn't expect the college football world to dump the entire system and turn everything upside down just for little ol' me...

The only thing that's going to change the system is this.... IF the BCS somehow puts Boise in the title game this year with that schedule over a 1 loss BCS team... then you'll get your wish eventually.. because there will be enough of an uproar..

Look on the bright side, Boise has the easiest path to the title game from this day forward... Everybody else still has PLENTY of loseable games ahead...

BobDole
09-07-2010, 04:55 AM
Boise doesn't have the advantage... how many NC games have they played in?

SEC fans wouldn't want a free ride to the title game... The point is they want the team that they're going to play in it to deserve to be there also...

they have the advantage b/c of their preseason ranking and schedule. huge advantage. if they squeak by oregon st. (likely), they'll blow out every other opponent by 30 points. that's the thing i don't like. preseason rank them like 7 or 8 - that way they don't get in over more deserving teams. at 3 they're not going anywhere if they run the table. alabama and ohio st have to do the same in this scenario. not a fan.

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 06:14 AM
they have the advantage b/c of their preseason ranking and schedule. huge advantage. if they squeak by oregon st. (likely), they'll blow out every other opponent by 30 points. that's the thing i don't like. preseason rank them like 7 or 8 - that way they don't get in over more deserving teams. at 3 they're not going anywhere if they run the table. alabama and ohio st have to do the same in this scenario. not a fan.


Don't count on it... The computers had undefeated Boise ranked the same as 10-3 Oregon last year... If Bama or Ohio St. slips up and loses 1 game... Boise is not a shoe in to go to the title game if they finish unbeaten...

The media hype might persuade some of media voters, but the computers won't be affected by it... SOS is still going to win out in the end... If any non-AQ team had a legitimate beef with being left out of the national championship game last year, it was TCU because of the schedule they faced... not Boise...

But the BCS was clever, matching those two up in a BCS bowl game to avoid conflict...





Here's the problem with a playoff if you're Florida, Alabama, etc....


Why stay in the SEC and get pulvarized every week if there's a playoff at the end anyway? When teams like Boise are going to play cupcake schedules and get in the playoff at the end anyway and have a shot at the title?

**** that!! Florida or Bama would be better off to leave the SEC, become an independent, play a soft schedule equal to Boise's, and just wait for the playoffs to begin....:crazy:


But there's too much tradition at stake... too many rivalries.. Like I said, SEC fans don't WANT an easy road to the title game, they just want whoever the two teams are in it to have EARNED their way there...

You don't have a playoff and blow the whole thing up to accomodate ONE team who just feels they're being disrespected... No sir..

If you have a playoff, it should be to accomodate the teams in BCS conferences who have to run the gauntlet every year and may end up with 1 or 2 losses... while teams like Boise are getting all fired up for a 2 game season and receiving the same benefits...

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 06:18 AM
Boise has no ****ing CLUE what it's like to have to lay your season on the line EVERY Saturday....

BobDole
09-07-2010, 06:32 AM
Don't count on it... The computers had undefeated Boise ranked the same as 10-3 Oregon last year... If Bama or Ohio St. slips up and loses 1 game... Boise is not a shoe in to go to the title game if they finish unbeaten...

The media hype might persuade some of media voters, but the computers won't be affected by it... SOS is still going to win out in the end... If any non-AQ team had a legitimate beef with being left out of the national championship game last year, it was TCU because of the schedule they faced... not Boise...

But the BCS was clever, matching those two up in a BCS bowl game to avoid conflict...





Here's the problem with a playoff if you're Florida, Alabama, etc....


Why stay in the SEC and get pulvarized every week if there's a playoff at the end anyway? When teams like Boise are going to play cupcake schedules and get in the playoff at the end anyway and have a shot at the title?

**** that!! Florida or Bama would be better off to leave the SEC, become an independent, play a soft schedule equal to Boise's, and just wait for the playoffs to begin....:crazy:


But there's too much tradition at stake... too many rivalries.. Like I said, SEC fans don't WANT an easy road to the title game, they just want whoever the two teams are in it to have EARNED their way there...

You don't have a playoff and blow the whole thing up to accomodate ONE team who just feels they're being disrespected... No sir..

If you have a playoff, it should be to accomodate the teams in BCS conferences who have to run the gauntlet every year and may end up with 1 or 2 losses... while teams like Boise are getting all fired up for a 2 game season and receiving the same benefits...

if they've got the backing to be preseason #3 i don't see them being left out after they go undefeated. not this time. people would freak and call the whole ranking pointless ... which it would be if boise got left out. why even rank them 3 in the beginning if you're gonna keep them out in the end? makes no sense. not to mention the style points they'll be racking up when they're butt spelunking wyoming by 30 points.

you're right about the SEC playoff thing but that goes both ways. by having such a hard road until the playoffs the SEC would be more battle tested and ready to go than anyone - unless they've suffered a bunch of injuries along the way. i'd rather face the tough schedule until crunch time - i'd know exactly where my team is at, what they're capable of, and how to beat the potential threats.

the independents would be at a huge disadvantage b/c that's 3,4,or 5 games in a row they have to game plan and show up for in a row. who knows if they'd be up for the challenge. not them.

i'd want UF and bama to stay right where they're at. we've got the depth to withstand an injury or two. and i want that tradition intact regardless.

hell, even if we would be at a disadvantage - i still say let them have their cake. we've got the best talent in the country in the southeast - let us battle it out to see who's the best.

JCane
09-07-2010, 06:35 AM
Virginia Tech is the better team. I doubt there's one guy on Boise State's team who would start for the Hokies. Maybe Pettis...perhaps Kellen Moore. But I did bet the Broncos tonight because with months of preparation and everything on the line in ONE game, you don't want to play Boise State. But there's no way they'd survive in the SEC. You could see how the physical style of Virginia Tech was beginning to take its toll on Boise State in the second quarter. Imagine that every week in the SEC or Big 10 where teams line up and play smash mouth football. Boise just doesn't have the athletes to compete on that level week in and week out. They just don't.

I'm sorry but Boise State just doesn't belong until they can get into a major conference somehow. But I can't even see that happening. It just doesn't make a lot of sense for the PAC 10 to go out and get Boise State. Boise doesn't really bring a lot to a major conference. That's not a knock on Boise State it's just the truth. They're not bringing in a major television market which is VERY important and their airport is garbage. And even if they run the table and they probably will, they shouldn't get in over a one loss SEC or Big 10 school.

BobDole
09-07-2010, 06:41 AM
yup. it is what it is. i'm just glad i'm not a hardcore boise fan b/c i'd be pulling my hair out every damn year. a playoff system would have its kinks - especially at first - but at least deserving teams wouldn't be bent over on an annual basis.

JCane
09-07-2010, 06:43 AM
To straight hell with a playoff system. Leave it how it is. Maybe add a plus one but that's as far as I go with that. I don't want my college football watered down. No thanks.

BobDole
09-07-2010, 06:50 AM
i knew you thought that. i remember you explaining why but i forget. i will never be able to understand how such a hardcore college fan could be against a playoff. then again, i'll also never be able to understand how you can defend clowns like favre, lebron, and cowherd. :lol:

it's inherently flawed. every year someone gets screwed. you can set your watch to it. why would you not want to fix such an easily remedied situation? it's broken - it needs to be fixed. mind bottling.

TedSlimmJr
09-07-2010, 07:03 AM
if they've got the backing to be preseason #3 i don't see them being left out after they go undefeated. not this time. people would freak and call the whole ranking pointless ... which it would be if boise got left out. why even rank them 3 in the beginning if you're gonna keep them out in the end? makes no sense. not to mention the style points they'll be racking up when they're butt spelunking wyoming by 30 points.

you're right about the SEC playoff thing but that goes both ways. by having such a hard road until the playoffs the SEC would be more battle tested and ready to go than anyone - unless they've suffered a bunch of injuries along the way. i'd rather face the tough schedule until crunch time - i'd know exactly where my team is at, what they're capable of, and how to beat the potential threats.

the independents would be at a huge disadvantage b/c that's 3,4,or 5 games in a row they have to game plan and show up for in a row. who knows if they'd be up for the challenge. not them.

i'd want UF and bama to stay right where they're at. we've got the depth to withstand an injury or two. and i want that tradition intact regardless.

hell, even if we would be at a disadvantage - i still say let them have their cake. we've got the best talent in the country in the southeast - let us battle it out to see who's the best.


I just said the BCS is clever... You don't rank them #3 with the INTENT to leave them out in the end if they go undefeated... You're going to let Boise's schedule do it for them... Why in the hell would you let a team play in the BCS title game that didn't even win it's conference? It's been done twice already Bob...


I figured the BCS out a long time ago... and I ABSOLUTELY would rather be battle tested through the SEC when it comes playoff time... UNLESS it's going to end up keeping you out of the playoffs all together if you lose 2 games or so...

You're better off leaving the conference and becoming independent, scheduling a bunch of cupcakes, go undefeated and wait for the playoffs to begin... It's really that simple...

However, tradition and rivalries staying intact ALWAYS takes precedence.... even over a shot at the title... that's my point.

BobDole
09-07-2010, 07:33 AM
I just said the BCS is clever... You don't rank them #3 with the INTENT to leave them out in the end if they go undefeated... You're going to let Boise's schedule do it for them... Why in the hell would you let a team play in the BCS title game that didn't even win it's conference? It's been done twice already Bob...


I figured the BCS out a long time ago... and I ABSOLUTELY would rather be battle tested through the SEC when it comes playoff time... UNLESS it's going to end up keeping you out of the playoffs all together if you lose 2 games or so...

You're better off leaving the conference and becoming independent, scheduling a bunch of cupcakes, go undefeated and wait for the playoffs to begin... It's really that simple...

However, tradition and rivalries staying intact ALWAYS takes precedence.... even over a shot at the title... that's my point.

not gonna lie - you blew my mind a little bit with this one. :lol:

not only are they ranked 3 but they have va tech and oregon st. on their schedule. i would be absolutely stunned if they went undefeated and got left out for a 1 loss team. i'd love it but i'd be shocked. what the hell is the whole thing for if you're gonna do that to the team YOU ranked #3? i take your word for it that it could happen but it's insane. makes the whole thing an exercise in futility. even pisses me off a little - b/c it affects everyone else as well.

how many teams do you see getting included when the playoff scenario happens? i'd say a good amount - enough to where the solid SEC teams with 2 losses get in. 3 for the big boys. i don't see a deserving team getting fisted in which case.

tradition and rivalries win every day of the week. absolutely. without question. history was the whole reason i rooted for the SEC - before i had any clue i'd be going to a school there. to tell you the truth - and don't tell anyone - that's the reason i was a ND fan when i was a kid - until i found what a dick they are. :lol: (say what you will about ND - and you will - but the history/tradition there is second to none.)

JCane
09-07-2010, 09:34 AM
i knew you thought that. i remember you explaining why but i forget. i will never be able to understand how such a hardcore college fan could be against a playoff. then again, i'll also never be able to understand how you can defend clowns like favre, lebron, and cowherd. :lol:

it's inherently flawed. every year someone gets screwed. you can set your watch to it. why would you not want to fix such an easily remedied situation? it's broken - it needs to be fixed. mind bottling.

With a playoff you're talking about adding FOUR more games to the season. These are COLLEGE KIDS. You're cutting into class time in a HUGE way for one. Imagine the expenses for a University to send a team to that many more games. Most athletic departments scrape by as it is. Then you have the issue of fan travel. Ohio State fans might travel halfway across the country to see the Buckeyes in the Rose Bowl, but how many of them will go to every playoff game they're involved in? It gets EXPENSIVE for the fan. And you can't have half empty stadiums for huge playoff games. College basketball gets away with it because the tournament is such a huge draw on television no matter who is playing. These "hardcore college football fans" only make up about 10%. Most people are casual fans. I might be "hardcore" but only for the 'Canes. If the 'Canes aren't in it, I just don't care to watch Virginia Tech and Wisconsin in a playoff game.

A college football playoff seems like a very simple fix just by adding games and saying go play. But it's VERY complex when you bring in corporate sponsors and economics into the equation. I think a plus one system is about as close to a playoff as we'll ever seen because the bowl system setup is so lucrative for the NCAA and the conferences. From a financial standpoint it doesn't make ANY sense to implement some ridiculous 8 game playoff or whatever.

X-Pacolypse
09-07-2010, 01:09 PM
I'm not gonna lie. I was rooting like crazy for Boise State last night. Kellen Moore is a flat out stud quarterback. There is no situation that's too big for him and he never seems to get rattled.

Rafiki
09-07-2010, 01:55 PM
Sorry guys, I was wasted last night. That was a huge win and I was having maybe a little too much fun.