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WISfinfan13
09-10-2010, 04:13 PM
http://network.yardbarker.com/college_football/article_external/nick_saban_latest_shot_at_boise_is_lamest_yet/3204058

Article talks about Alabama having six games as tough or tougher than VT in 2009. Which the article disproves. Nick is a cry baby.

BobDole
09-10-2010, 04:25 PM
the 6 teams thing was a stretch but that doesn't make his point invalid.

making me defend saban. damn you. :oldman:

WISfinfan13
09-10-2010, 04:28 PM
the 6 teams thing was a stretch but that doesn't make his point invalid.

making me defend saban. damn you. :oldman:

The 6 team thing is more than a stretch. Why did he even say that. Makes him sound like an idiot!

BobDole
09-10-2010, 04:40 PM
The 6 team thing is more than a stretch. Why did he even say that. Makes him sound like an idiot!

i have no idea. i think it was more of a vote for how much more dominant the SEC is than any other conference more than anything else. i'll begrudgingly give him 4.

Namor
09-10-2010, 04:46 PM
One-thats not what he said..I listened to the show..He said in addition to playing VT Bama played 6 or more conf. games
more challaging than some of the conf. opponants Boise State will play.
That blog or whatever got it wrong to slant their view.(Couldn't find a picture of Nick in Bama gear?It's only
been four years.
There's no crying,they ask him a question,he told them the truth.
Boise State would lose four games in the SEC.
More jilted girl-friend syndrome.

Plus...VT isn't that great of a football team.

Rafiki
09-10-2010, 04:52 PM
Boise State would lose four games in the SEC.


How do you figure this? Are you saying that with BSU's WAC money and WAC recruits they'd lose 4 games, or are you saying that if BSU had SEC money and SEC recruits they'd still lose 4 games?

Namor
09-10-2010, 05:03 PM
With WAC money..like now...not disrespecting Boise St.
I'm tripping how this article got it wrong,plus what's Nick
got to cry about? We are defending champs.
He wasn't disrespecting BSU,just saying SEC conf games are
tougher than WAC.

BobDole
09-10-2010, 05:06 PM
wow did they ever get it wrong in which case. didn't hear the audio.

and right now boise would get handled in the SEC. wouldn't be pretty at first. but with SEC money and recruiting? sky's the limit - they got the most important thing down - the coaching.

Namor
09-10-2010, 05:08 PM
wow did they ever get it wrong in which case. didn't hear the audio.

and right now boise would get handled in the SEC. wouldn't be pretty at first. but with SEC money and recruiting? sky's the limit - they got the most important thing down - the coaching.
They would be Kentucky...
Just being in the SEC doesn't make you
a Bama or Fla.

BobDole
09-10-2010, 05:21 PM
They would be Kentucky...
Just being in the SEC doesn't make you
a Bama or Fla.

at first, sure. but that's a well run program with fantastic coaching. who knows how'd they do with some time and actual resources at their disposal. potential is there.

Namor
09-10-2010, 05:29 PM
Well...I'm not disrespecting Boise St...my thing was the OP was taking a shot at Saban
saying he was crying or bitching about something...now you see why Nick dislikes the media.

Rafiki
09-10-2010, 05:45 PM
wow did they ever get it wrong in which case. didn't hear the audio.

and right now boise would get handled in the SEC. wouldn't be pretty at first. but with SEC money and recruiting? sky's the limit - they got the most important thing down - the coaching.

I still don't understand the confidence. Alabama got handled by Utah in the Sugar Bowl (the last time they've faced a quality non AQ program), and Florida allowed four scoring drives against Miami (OH), which coincidentally is the same team Boise State blew out 48-0 last year. LSU had trouble defeating a depleted and demoralized NC, and Ole Miss lost to a 1AA program.

Namor
09-10-2010, 05:54 PM
I still don't understand the confidence. Alabama got handled by Utah in the Sugar Bowl (the last time they've faced a quality non AQ program), and Florida allowed four scoring drives against Miami (OH), which coincidentally is the same team Boise State blew out 48-0 last year. LSU had trouble defeating a depleted and demoralized NC, and Ole Miss lost to a 1AA program.

I'm not talking about a one game scenario. I'm talking about a whole season,playing away games at some our stadiums.
Right now,your depth isn't where it needs to be to take that kind of grind.
One game? yes,you guys can play with anybody.

BobDole
09-10-2010, 05:56 PM
I still don't understand the confidence. Alabama got handled by Utah in the Sugar Bowl (the last time they've faced a quality non AQ program), and Florida allowed four scoring drives against Miami (OH), which coincidentally is the same team Boise State blew out 48-0 last year. LSU had trouble defeating a depleted and demoralized NC, and Ole Miss lost to a 1AA program.

b/c your schedule is a joke. not your fault - but it is. you couldn't handle an SEC schedule week in and week out. one or two tough games a year - sure - your coaching is good enough to game plan for that. but every week in the SEC? you'd lose 6 games this year.

TedSlimmJr
09-10-2010, 06:14 PM
http://network.yardbarker.com/college_football/article_external/nick_saban_latest_shot_at_boise_is_lamest_yet/3204058

Article talks about Alabama having six games as tough or tougher than VT in 2009. Which the article disproves. Nick is a cry baby.


This article (and link) might as well have come straight from south Florida... Why even have a picture of Saban in Dolphins gear? He's been Alabama's coach for a while now.... I'll tell you why... nothing more than a slam...

Secondly, the only reason Saban is even mentioned is to drive up hits.... this is the same thing everyone involved in college football has been saying for years because they know it's the ****ing truth...


Boise St. has no idea what it's like to go on the road in the SEC and play in SEC venues... against teams the caliber (or better) than the VT team that Boise played Monday night...

They have no idea what it's like to play half a dozen teams every year that consider you their RIVAL and hate you with a passion.... and will stop at next to nothing to beat you...

These aren't some Johnny-come-lately track meets that you see in the WAC... these are 100 year old dispicable hate fests that cause families to stop speaking to one another...


I'll be pulling for Boise to go undefeated and hopefully get their shot to play Bama in the title game... the reason is quite obvious...

Even as easy as it is to figure out who will CLEARLY be the more battle tested team should both teams make it.... they'll never figure it out...

Rafiki
09-10-2010, 07:25 PM
b/c your schedule is a joke. not your fault - but it is. you couldn't handle an SEC schedule week in and week out. one or two tough games a year - sure - your coaching is good enough to game plan for that. but every week in the SEC? you'd lose 6 games this year.

Circular logic is circular.

So Boise State wouldn't have success in the SEC because they wouldn't be able to handle the SEC?

That's like saying dogs are better than cats because cats are much worse than dogs.

BobDole
09-10-2010, 07:33 PM
Circular logic is circular.

So Boise State wouldn't have success in the SEC because they wouldn't be able to handle the SEC?

That's like saying dogs are better than cats because cats are much worse than dogs.

if you think boise would be able to inch past every team in the SEC week after week just like they inch past every ranked team they play then that's on you.

i'm not stating an opinion - nor am i trying to slight boise - they just wouldn't be able to handle it - circular logic or not.

Namor
09-10-2010, 09:20 PM
and the SEC circle jerk continues...

Better than a ACC gay fest.

Namor
09-10-2010, 09:23 PM
And i like the Canes,so don't get me started young'n, we would steam roll you guys.
You need to just worry about OSU right now,then worry about the big boys.

TedSlimmJr
09-10-2010, 09:29 PM
and the SEC circle jerk continues...


The only thing being jerked around in circles is the other conferences when they have to face SEC teams in bowl games...

When's the last time Miami won a bowl game? Nevada? :lol:

Hell they barely won that one...


Win something... then run your mouth... Besides, it's getting past your bedtime anyway..

Namor
09-10-2010, 09:32 PM
Tag me in Ted,Tag me In!!!!

TedSlimmJr
09-10-2010, 09:40 PM
Was this young'n even off his mama's nipple that last time Miami won a BCS bowl game?

Take it easy on the half pint Namor... get down on your knees so its fair...




*tags Namor*

Namor
09-10-2010, 09:52 PM
"As Arn Anderson flips over the top rope"
Son...I do respect what the Canes have done for College Football,but it pales to Alabama's history and what the SEC has done as a whole.
Plus you are 19,you have bearly seen the Canes being successful(don't worry,more wisdom will come with age)
I won't even mention the bulls because....well ,their the bulls,enough said.
Remember Alabama men built the Miami and Fla,St. programs.
If you are a Dolphin fan,I welcome you as a brother,but some of your posts have alittle wannabe thug attitude to them.
Learn alittle bit of history before you flap that lip.

To be the man,you have to beat the man.....Roll Tide.

Namor
09-10-2010, 10:03 PM
4 straight BCS titles in a row and the most since it started is having the biggest dick...that's why it is ridden.

Like we did you guys in 92...and bitched slapped "the Rock" while he was a 2nd teamer.

I bet Shannon cares about BCS wins...thats just stupid.

TedSlimmJr
09-10-2010, 10:08 PM
LOLing...

I don't care about BCS wins. Constant dickriding is the reason the SEC is so prominent in the BCS.

Yeah, the conference's best teams are among the best in the country... just like every other conference. But then when SEC teams beat up on each other we have to hear about how the conf is OH SO DEEP, top-to-bottom, blah blah... gtfo.


The best teams in the country from other conferences keep getting their ***es blown out when they face the SEC's top teams...

The reason is simple.... the SEC teams are more prepared for it... they're more battle tested than the top teams from the other conferences...

The bottom line is your attitude reeks of envy and jealousy son... which is quite typical coming from south Florida...

Namor
09-10-2010, 10:08 PM
wat

And as far as the Bulls go, I paid attention to that program when I wanted to attend the university (which I no longer do... a name change is probably imminent).

I'm just yanking you chain, bro....it's all good...I hope you are in school somewhere...
It's worth it.

Namor
09-10-2010, 10:37 PM
I am much more aggravated with my own team(and AD/President) and the other teams in the conference for not being able to get their **** together recently than I am envious of other teams or conferences.

I will concede that Bama is the best team in the country, but after that... it's stupid to say that the SEC is easily the best conference.

Come on man....Most teams consistently in the top 25,most BCS titles, most top 10 recruiting classes every year.
and the most lucrative TV deal..money always tells the truth
Look at the evidence..you just got to give them their props.

Namor
09-12-2010, 05:12 PM
I think VT has made Nick's point real clear....JMU?

Rafiki
09-12-2010, 11:21 PM
VT is better than they've been playing. If Boise struggled with VT but soundly beat Oregon and TCU last year with the same team, I would say that VT is underperforming. Watch, they'll probably go on to win the ACC and hit up a BCS bowl.

ACC and Big East are both hugely overrated, though. I'll give you that. BSU and TCU would probably beat all-comers from those two conferences. Again, this is why we need a playoff.

TedSlimmJr
09-27-2010, 06:14 PM
I still don't understand the confidence. Alabama got handled by Utah in the Sugar Bowl (the last time they've faced a quality non AQ program), and Florida allowed four scoring drives against Miami (OH), which coincidentally is the same team Boise State blew out 48-0 last year. LSU had trouble defeating a depleted and demoralized NC, and Ole Miss lost to a 1AA program.


Yep... Ole Miss lost to a 1-AA program and just beat one of Boise St.'s conference bell cows that you brag about (Fresno St.) by hanging 55 points on 'em... beat 'em by 17...

..and Ole Miss is the WORST team in the SEC... they lost to Vandy...

JCane
09-27-2010, 06:28 PM
How do you figure this? Are you saying that with BSU's WAC money and WAC recruits they'd lose 4 games, or are you saying that if BSU had SEC money and SEC recruits they'd still lose 4 games?

Boise State would absolutely lose four or more games in the SEC. No question. Boise State is talented. Boise State is VERY well coached. But one thing Boise State is not, is physical. You could see late in the game against Virginia Tech the physicality of the game beginning to take its toll on Boise State. You could see it in that Oklahoma game a few years back. They had to go for the win because there was just no way they could put that tired and beaten defense back out on the field. I didn't blame them one bit for going for it all. Very gutsy and those Broncos show a lot of heart in every big game they play in.

But the physicality of the SEC would wear that team down by week four. I know you don't want to acknowledge that because you're a Boise State fan but this is a non-biased opinion from a guy who knows college football. As a Miami fan, I would absolutely NOT want to play Boise State in a season opener or in a bowl game. They're very well rested for those games and very well coached in those big games. But if Boise State had to line up against South Carolina, Auburn, Alabama, Florida, and THEN play Miami...I'd be all for it because I think we could beat Boise State then. Boise State faces no real competition in the WAC. They don't suffer a lot of injuries during the course of the season. And in the SEC, the injuries pile up every week. No one is healthy going into the final weeks. Everyone has some sort of bruise, nick, and pain they're playing with.

They physicality of the SEC would be too much for Boise State to overcome. They don't recruit the same kind of athlete that Alabama and Florida do. Now, if Boise State were in the SEC and began recruiting SEC athletes, THEN they can compete. You take a look at Utah. Utah's over/under on wins this season was 8.5 and I was betting that HEAVY. Utah is joining the PAC10 and they've been recruiting like they were already in the PAC10 for a few years now. Utah knew that the day would come when they would go to the PAC10 and knew that they needed PAC10 type athletes to compete on that level. They started early and it's paying off.

TedSlimmJr
09-27-2010, 06:32 PM
No wonder Texas didn't want to join the Pac-10... UCLA just beat 'em like a rented mule.... IN AUSTIN..

Let me guess... it's because Colt McCoy was hurt...

WVDolphan
09-27-2010, 06:38 PM
Im so sick of hearing about Boise St.

It points to the larger picture that College Football is a ****ing joke right now.

80 teams, 8 10 team divisions. 8 division winners play in a playoff to determine a champion. NO POLLS. Its that simple. The other 50 teams play in 5 team subdivisions and the winner gets to move up into the big division each year while the worst team gets demoted to the subdivisions. Its really that easy.

In the meantime, we will keep deciding who is the champion based on pure and total BS........preseason rankings. The preseason rankings have a huge impact on where you finish for the simple fact that when you win, no matter who you play, you at least stay in the same spot. When you lose, no matter who you play, you drop. ****ING GAY.

If they insist on having rankings, they should wait at least 5 weeks into the season to produce them. Then they must wipe the previous weeks rankings out of their minds when revoting the next week. How Arkansas drops in ranking this week I will never understand. They barely lost to a team that is more or less the unanamous #1. So all that proves is Arkansas isnt the best team in the country. How does that make them drop for 10 to whatever they fell to? I mean if they lost to a team that the very same voter considered the best, how does it make Arkansas a worse team than they were the previous week? ****ing retarded.

And back to Boise St. How Boise is ranked 3rd ****ing baffles me. They were clearly outplayed by VT, but still won the game on coaching mismanagement by Beamer. VT dominated Boise up front for 3 qtrs of play. Yet, Boise stays ranked 3rd. Why? Because these ******* pollsters had them ranked 3rd to start the season before any games were even ****ing played. What a joke college football is. And Boise, while a decent team and a good program, is no where near Alabama or Ohio St. Its not even close. If they steal a title bid from some more deserving team its a disgrace.

JCane
09-27-2010, 06:45 PM
You can't have an 8 team playoff. It won't work. The schools lose too much money that way. I know the BCS isn't the greatest thing, but we all seem to forget that the college football teams BELONG to academic institutions first and foremost. If the money isn't there to benefit the University, then the NCAA isn't going to push for change.

WVDolphan
09-27-2010, 06:49 PM
You can't have an 8 team playoff. It won't work. The schools lose too much money that way. I know the BCS isn't the greatest thing, but we all seem to forget that the college football teams BELONG to academic institutions first and foremost. If the money isn't there to benefit the University, then the NCAA isn't going to push for change.

And college football will remain a ****ing joke and the only good reason for watching it will be to gamble on it.

In the meantime, with the way it is set up now, they should really just declare whoever wins the SEC as the national champion and be done with it.

JCane
09-27-2010, 06:57 PM
In all honesty, the BCS gets it right 99% of the time. Alabama and Texas deserved to be there more than anyone last year. The only time I've really seen anyone get the shaft is Auburn in 2004. And obviously I feel like we got shafted in 2000 when Oklahoma and Florida State played.

TedSlimmJr
09-27-2010, 06:59 PM
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/227890-bama-ad-boise-state-hasn't-called?eref=sihp

..or..

http://www.tidesports.com/article/20100924/NEWS/100929812/1011?p=1&tc=pg


All this talk by Boise about not being able to schedule top teams is hogwash... Nebraska did everything they could to schedule Boise short of cutting them a million dollar check... and they haven't even contacted Alabama...

If Boise wants to gain respect, they're going to have to do it the way Florida St. did in the 70's.... play anybody anywhere anytime and without the expectations of getting something in return... That's how FSU did it by going to play Michigan, Ohio St., LSU, etc., etc. in THEIR venues without expecting a home-and-home in return....

JCane
09-27-2010, 07:04 PM
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/227890-bama-ad-boise-state-hasn't-called?eref=sihp


All this talk by Boise about not being able to schedule top teams is hogwash... Nebraska did everything they could to schedule Boise short of cutting them a million dollar check... and they haven't even contacted Alabama...

If Boise wants to gain respect, they're going to have to do it the way Florida St. did in the 70's.... play anybody anywhere anytime and without the expectations of getting something in return... That's how FSU did it by going to play Michigan, Ohio St., LSU, etc., etc. in THEIR venues without expecting a home-and-home in return....

Miami is having to do the same dumb **** as well. Schedule Florida for a home and home. We go to the Swamp, and now they want to weasel out of coming to Miami. Now we're playing Notre Dame at a neutral site and Rutgers at a neutral site.

TedSlimmJr
09-27-2010, 07:23 PM
Miami is having to do the same dumb **** as well. Schedule Florida for a home and home. We go to the Swamp, and now they want to weasel out of coming to Miami. Now we're playing Notre Dame at a neutral site and Rutgers at a neutral site.


Ole Miss is paying Boise over half a million dollars to come to Oxford next season...

Wonder how much Jacksonville St. would have to pony up for a home-and-home with 'em?

Rafiki
09-27-2010, 08:10 PM
Wow, the haters sure came out of the woodwork today.

I know, I know, the SEC!!! recruits players from the planet Krypton who are all 6'11 300 lbs and run sub 4.2 40s. BSU just has no chance since all their players are like 5'9" and 170lbs.

Blah blah blah

You guys seriously think 'Bama wants a piece of Boise St? Why haven't they called? They don't want none. They're just posturing.

Like I said before, watch and VT will come back and win the weak ACC. Then all of you will be saying, "This isn't the same VT team that BSU beat, if they held the game again VT would win 9 out of 10 times." And so forth.

Hey Ted Slimm, remember this quote:

I'm convinced....Boise is a ****ing beast..http://www.finheaven.com/images/smilies/lol.gif

Please keep that monster far away from my Tide...

Seriously though...I've lobbied for a playoff for years....let the teams play and settle it that way...

But Boise would get blown out of the stadium if it was Florida or Alabama....so would TCU...

The only two measuring stick games for Boise are Oregon and TCU...and if either of those games were any indication.....Boise can stake claim to the 3rd best team in the country....that's about it IMO... Namor's quote:


Next season,...with Boise St. coming out ranked real high and
go undefeated,and with the seasons you have put together
I think you should get to play for the BCS.Beat VT..and I think
everything will come together...It would be cool with me to see
Bama and Boise St play for the title next year. What's changed is that BSU won when you all thought they would have at least one loss by now.

TedSlimmJr
09-27-2010, 08:45 PM
Wow, the haters sure came out of the woodwork today.

I know, I know, the SEC!!! recruits players from the planet Krypton who are all 6'11 300 lbs and run sub 4.2 40s. BSU just has no chance since all their players are like 5'9" and 170lbs.

Blah blah blah

You guys seriously think 'Bama wants a piece of Boise St? Why haven't they called? They don't want none. They're just posturing.

Like I said before, watch and VT will come back and win the weak ACC. Then all of you will be saying, "This isn't the same VT team that BSU beat, if they held the game again VT would win 9 out of 10 times." And so forth.

Hey Ted Slimm, remember this quote:
Namor's quote:

What's changed is that BSU won when you all thought they would have at least one loss by now.


What the hell are you talking about son... Bama has nothing to prove.. Boise is the team that has to prove something. Bama is too busy scheduling OOC games against top teams from other conferences to be BEGGING Boise ****ing St. to play... that's ridiculous..

You would have to be a stone cold idiot (or Tim Brando... same difference) to believe that any team from the SEC is afraid of all those undersized, red-headed, white boys Boise St. brings to the table... much less Alabama..

Mal Moore flat out called Boise's bluff.... and so did Nebraska..

Boise wants to play the role of "disrespected little guy" when it comes to being left out of the national championship game, or lack of respect in the polls... but not when it comes to accepting million dollar handouts from established programs and traditional powers...



Not sure what my quote from last year has to do with anything... I said Boise could lay claim to the 3rd best team in the country IMO... and that was about it...

The problem is that they're only tested twice a year.... their depth and toughness isn't tested the way it is when you have to go through the rigors of an SEC schedule and playing rivals that HATE you with every fiber of their being every week...

But... I suppose you can't expect new programs that pop up and experience a little success suddenly playing glorified high school teams every week to appreciate that or understand it... nor their fan base...

Bring on the New Mexico State Aggies!!!

Namor
09-27-2010, 09:26 PM
Wow, the haters sure came out of the woodwork today.

I know, I know, the SEC!!! recruits players from the planet Krypton who are all 6'11 300 lbs and run sub 4.2 40s. BSU just has no chance since all their players are like 5'9" and 170lbs.

Blah blah blah

You guys seriously think 'Bama wants a piece of Boise St? Why haven't they called? They don't want none. They're just posturing.

Like I said before, watch and VT will come back and win the weak ACC. Then all of you will be saying, "This isn't the same VT team that BSU beat, if they held the game again VT would win 9 out of 10 times." And so forth.

Hey Ted Slimm, remember this quote:
Namor's quote:

What's changed is that BSU won when you all thought they would have at least one loss by now.

Hey...why is the great one's name being thrown around.
I think Boise St can play with anybody on a neutral field in a one game scenario.
What I object to is the chance a one lost Bama could be shafted out of a chance to play for the
title while a undefeated Boise St could get in because of the differences of our schedules.
And you have to admit our schedules are night and day.
We will have played by the end of the year ,not including the SECCG,at least 4 top 10 teams.
Alabama is not going to pay Boise St. their asking price of 1.2 million to come play us,we will pay
up to 750,000 to play...but Boise 's hasn't called...Bama doesn't have to call you guys..
We just scheduled Michigan for 2012 along with Penn St plus our SEC schedule.
I'm not busting your chops,but your hanging your hat on a bad VT and a #24 ranked Oregon St.
teams.
Do you think Boises St's schedule and Alabama's rank the same?

Bama would love to play Boise St for all the marbles.

WVDolphan
09-27-2010, 10:54 PM
Dude Bama would ****ing DESTROY Boise St by about 30 points. Get real.

JCane
09-27-2010, 11:08 PM
Wow, the haters sure came out of the woodwork today.

I know, I know, the SEC!!! recruits players from the planet Krypton who are all 6'11 300 lbs and run sub 4.2 40s. BSU just has no chance since all their players are like 5'9" and 170lbs.

Blah blah blah

You guys seriously think 'Bama wants a piece of Boise St? Why haven't they called? They don't want none. They're just posturing.

Like I said before, watch and VT will come back and win the weak ACC. Then all of you will be saying, "This isn't the same VT team that BSU beat, if they held the game again VT would win 9 out of 10 times." And so forth.

Hey Ted Slimm, remember this quote:
Namor's quote:

What's changed is that BSU won when you all thought they would have at least one loss by now.

I'm really not hating. Real talk. I have no dog in this fight. I follow Boise State because they're a hot bet for me. Alabama gains NOTHING from playing Boise State. Nothing. Boise State has EVERYTHING to gain from playing top tier programs like Alabama. Alabama gains nothing because they don't recruit that far West. There's no benefits for Alabama.

This isn't the NFL. There isn't a scheduling system. Teams schedule their own opponents but they have to play teams within their conference. While Boise State is a good team, they're not on Alabama's level. They're just not. Boise State needs to be playing teams from the PAC 10 and the Big 10. This way they expand their recruiting to the West coast and the Midwest. If Boise State were a top teir program, the PAC 10 would be recruiting them to their conference like they did with Colorado and Utah. I'm not saying that Colorado and Utah are top teir programs on the football field, but they bring a lot more to the table than Boise State can. Boise can't bring a huge TV market like Colorado and Utah can. The PAC 10 got HUGE markets out of Denver and Salt Lake City. Boise can't provide that. Boise also doesn't bring a major airport into the equation. This may sound crazy but trust me, it matters. Athletic departments largely operate in the red unless you're a "Blue Blood" such as Texas and Ohio State. Flights and hotels become VERY expensive. Believe me, I travel to EVERY Miami Hurricanes game. Home and away. Just on hotels and flights I'll spend roughly $3000 just for me. And I fly out of a major airport in Atlanta. It adds up. And unless Boise can provide huge ratings in a TV market, it doesn't make a lot of sense to add them to the PAC 10 when it becomes expensive to get teams in and out of Boise.

There's A LOT more to this stuff than two teams lining up and playing football.

TedSlimmJr
10-01-2010, 01:53 AM
And college football will remain a ****ing joke and the only good reason for watching it will be to gamble on it.

In the meantime, with the way it is set up now, they should really just declare whoever wins the SEC as the national champion and be done with it.

They could save a lot of time if they just did it that way....:lol:


I've never been a big proponent of the BCS, ever since the first time I watched a team that didn't even win it's own conference (Nebraska) play in the national championship game against Miami a decade ago...

However, all the BCS ever promised was that it would match up #1 vs. #2 for all the marbles.... how the teams get to #1 or #2 is in the hands of of the coaches, media, and computers.

Bottom line is this.... college football could play Rock, Paper, Scissors to decide the champion and it's STILL a lot better than the watered down version of itself the NFL has become... at least rivalries mean something in college football.

There are no rivalries in the NFL... they're only in the fan's heads. Rivalries in the NFL became extinct when free agency came along. Hell, look around... when you see guys like Jason Taylor and Brett Favre in Jet, Viking uniforms... it pounds this point home with the force of a sledgehammer... and that's only two examples... we could go a lot further into it...

Rivalries in college football are 100 years old... and filled with hate.. they only intensify as time passes... they get stronger... which is what makes the regular season mean as much as it does under the current BCS format. They stay with you for a lifetime... it's part of WHO you are. Prime Example: -- DeMeco Ryans was asked a few weeks ago if he hated the in-state rival Dallas Cowboys... his response? "No, I HATE Auburn".... I guarantee 98% of players in the NFL feel the same way.... no amount of money can change that about you once you've experienced it.

The business aspect of the NFL has made it atrocious.... it's all about "so and so is making more money than me"... *****, whine, cry, complain and hold out. It turns them all into big pu**ies. Guys like Albert Haynesworth making 100 million dollars and whining about having to play a position or technique that he "doesn't like"....:lol: Get the **** outta here...

Am I REALLY supposed to be entertained by some idiot who changes his last name to represent a number in Spanish.. meanwhile waiting with baited breath to see what endzone dance he's spent conjuring up all week in practice? WTF?.. Are people really entertained by **** like that? I don't get it...

Guys like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, etc. along with a few others are about the only thing that even makes the NFL tolerable... there's too many that ruin it nowdays.

The NFL was much better 30 years ago when guys played professional football as a means for putting food on the table.... and rivalries meant something. Personally, I'll always enjoy the last levels of PURE football more (high school and college)... Probably due to the fact that I have many years invested in coaching amateur/scholarship football players...

I have a 16 year old son that's a quarterback in 6-A... two years ago he broke his neck in practice taking a hit while diving for a catch. Let me tell you something, there are no words that can describe the feeling that comes over you as a parent when you SEE that happen...

Fortunately, it wasn't anything permanent... only a slight hairline fracture in his neck.. He wore a neck brace for 3 weeks and was out there selling out to catch footballs again a month later... for FREE.. because he loves the game. Meanwhile, around that same time, you had idiots around here defending a fake like Ginnger that was scared of his own shadow and doesn't have a fraction of the guts or moxy of my teenage son... a fake who was getting paid millions of dollars to do precisely that...


It's all perspective... but the NFL is a ****ing joke if you ask me... and it's getting worse. If the NFL didn't have a season next year due to a lockout, it wouldn't phase me one bit... Hell, I might even get a little more yardwork done if they do... I won't have an excuse to give my ol' lady anymore. She knows my Saturdays are off limits... especially when the Tide is playing in Tuscaloosa.. and always will be.

Now these pampered millionaires are bitching about an 18 game schedule.... Get your a**es out there and play dipsticks... Whether you're an offensive or defensive player, your unit is only out there for about 30 minutes every Sunday anyway... suck it up pansies... There's a lot of jersey wearing, pampered millionaire admirers counting on you...

Rafiki
10-06-2010, 05:38 PM
Dude Bama would ****ing DESTROY Boise St by about 30 points. Get real.
LOL Again with this, "they would destroy BSU because they would destroy BSU."

How many of you thought that Oklahoma would destroy BSU in 2007, or TCU would destroy them last year? I could dig up the quotes if you want me to.

I think people get hung up on BSU because they're not in a big media market. They have no problem with TCU in the top 10 because they have the DFW area. They have no problem with Utah in the top 10 because the SLC market. Seriously, I think for some people big media market equals big money equals good team.

HurriPhin
10-07-2010, 03:29 AM
...college football could play Rock, Paper, Scissors to decide the champion and it's STILL a lot better than the watered down version of itself the NFL has become... the NFL is a ****ing joke if you ask me...

You just lost all the respect that I had for you with this ignorant post. Don't worry though, it wasn't much to begin with.

JCane
10-07-2010, 03:37 AM
LOL Again with this, "they would destroy BSU because they would destroy BSU."

How many of you thought that Oklahoma would destroy BSU in 2007, or TCU would destroy them last year? I could dig up the quotes if you want me to.

I think people get hung up on BSU because they're not in a big media market. They have no problem with TCU in the top 10 because they have the DFW area. They have no problem with Utah in the top 10 because the SLC market. Seriously, I think for some people big media market equals big money equals good team.

I don't like TCU in the top 10. I don't have a problem with Utah THIS year because I know they've been recruiting better athletes the past couple of years in preparation for a move to a BCS conference. Utah has done things the right way in my opinion. That's not me saying that TCU and Boise State are going about this all wrong because they take what they can get. But for Boise State and TCU to get the respect they so desire, they're going to have to play some real competition. One game a year isn't going to cut it.

TedSlimmJr
10-07-2010, 09:32 AM
You just lost all the respect that I had for you with this ignorant post. Don't worry though, it wasn't much to begin with.


I don't need your respect numbnutz... You're just another hard-mouth, *** clown Hurricanes fan that wouldn't know a football from a fire ant...

Take your $.08 "respect" and give it to the Bi-fecta... they need all the support from snowed over fans like you they can get...

WISfinfan13
10-07-2010, 10:19 AM
I don't need your respect numbnutz... You're just another hard-mouth, *** clown Hurricanes fan that wouldn't know a football from a fire ant...

Take your $.08 "respect" and give it to the Bi-fecta... they need all the support from snowed over fans like you they can get...

Sorry to say it man. You sound like super angry person.

TedSlimmJr
10-07-2010, 10:26 AM
Sorry to say it man. You sound like super angry person.



:lol: Not at all son...


That's the problem... people tend to take things way too seriously on the internet.. When you've done all you can possibly do to get your point across from a "serious" football perspective, philosophy, X's and O's, etc... and it still doesn't work.. it's time to move on and just have a little fun..

When it gets to that point, I enjoy sarcastic banter back and forth... as long as they have a sense of humor, they can say anything they want to me..

I know what I know.. and I know how I got it...

Rafiki
10-07-2010, 01:28 PM
I don't like TCU in the top 10. I don't have a problem with Utah THIS year because I know they've been recruiting better athletes the past couple of years in preparation for a move to a BCS conference. Utah has done things the right way in my opinion. That's not me saying that TCU and Boise State are going about this all wrong because they take what they can get. But for Boise State and TCU to get the respect they so desire, they're going to have to play some real competition. One game a year isn't going to cut it.

Utah, in my opinion, has less business being in the top 10 than anyone. They beat Pitt. That's all they've done this year.

This year, Boise State will play as many top 25 teams as Oklahoma. I don't know where you're getting that they only play one good team a year. This year they'll play at least four.

Yet, even if they played one good team, where does that prove anything as far as how good they are?

Let's say for analogy's sake that you put Bama or Florida in the WAC, they'd easily roll the conference much the same as Boise does. Does that mean they wouldn't survive the SEC if they came back?

t2thejz
10-08-2010, 08:09 AM
Utah, in my opinion, has less business being in the top 10 than anyone. They beat Pitt. That's all they've done this year.

This year, Boise State will play as many top 25 teams as Oklahoma. I don't know where you're getting that they only play one good team a year. This year they'll play at least four.

Yet, even if they played one good team, where does that prove anything as far as how good they are?

Let's say for analogy's sake that you put Bama or Florida in the WAC, they'd easily roll the conference much the same as Boise does. Does that mean they wouldn't survive the SEC if they came back?

The problem is we all know Bama or Florida would roll the WAC but there is no proof that Boise St. could compete for an SEC title. Alabama and Florida get slack for scheduling teams like San Jose St. yet Boise St. will play cupcake teams for six weeks straight. Alabama is about to play 6 teams in the SEC all who have an off week before playing Bama. Boise St. has to prepare for San Jose St., La Tech, Hawaii, and Idaho for their next four games. Boise St. does not deserve the respect that you expect when they don't have to prepare for a competative oppenent week in and week out. Boise St. went out of conference and played Va Tech this year. Big deal, Alabama has done that the past three seasons and still has to go through the SEC. Fans like you complain how it is unfair that Boise St. does not get the chance to play for the BCS championship game despite going undeafted and my response is when comparing Boise St.'s schedule to any team in the SEC it's unfair that Boise St. is even in the discussion.

JCane
10-08-2010, 08:25 AM
Utah, in my opinion, has less business being in the top 10 than anyone. They beat Pitt. That's all they've done this year.

This year, Boise State will play as many top 25 teams as Oklahoma. I don't know where you're getting that they only play one good team a year. This year they'll play at least four.

Yet, even if they played one good team, where does that prove anything as far as how good they are?

Let's say for analogy's sake that you put Bama or Florida in the WAC, they'd easily roll the conference much the same as Boise does. Does that mean they wouldn't survive the SEC if they came back?

Dude, look at the athletes that Boise State recruits versus that of Florida, Alabama, etc. Look at it on paper. Look at offensive lineman versus offensive lineman in the SEC. Those Boise State kids might be able to lineup and fight for one game, but week after week after week it's going to take a serious physical toll of Boise State.

Had Boise State had to play another big physical team after Virginia Tech, I say they lose. Virginia Tech beat Boise State up physically. You could see it really affecting Boise State late in that game. That carries over from week to week. I travel A LOT. Every weekend. Some weeks I'm still exhausted from the weekend and it carries into the next weekend. It's rough on the body. I can only imagine what it's like lining up and slamming your body into another continuously. Who you recruit matters. Scheme will only get you by for so long.

Rafiki
10-08-2010, 01:25 PM
Dude, look at the athletes that Boise State recruits versus that of Florida, Alabama, etc. Look at it on paper. Look at offensive lineman versus offensive lineman in the SEC. Those Boise State kids might be able to lineup and fight for one game, but week after week after week it's going to take a serious physical toll of Boise State.

Had Boise State had to play another big physical team after Virginia Tech, I say they lose. Virginia Tech beat Boise State up physically. You could see it really affecting Boise State late in that game. That carries over from week to week. I travel A LOT. Every weekend. Some weeks I'm still exhausted from the weekend and it carries into the next weekend. It's rough on the body. I can only imagine what it's like lining up and slamming your body into another continuously. Who you recruit matters. Scheme will only get you by for so long.

And how did Boise State's "inferior athletes" affect Virginia Tech? Remember, Ryan Clady was a two-star. Now he's an all-pro NFL'er. I think you're buying into the hype of the star system of recruiting a bit too much.

You ever see MNF when the players announce where they went to school? Usually they're from all over the place. They're not all from the SEC, contrary to what you might believe about "superior athletes". They're from big schools and small schools, some even from FCS schools. I wonder if they know that they have no business being on the field with the goliath former-SEC players. LOL

Namor
10-08-2010, 02:56 PM
And how did Boise State's "inferior athletes" affect Virginia Tech? Remember, Ryan Clady was a two-star. Now he's an all-pro NFL'er. I think you're buying into the hype of the star system of recruiting a bit too much.

You ever see MNF when the players announce where they went to school? Usually they're from all over the place. They're not all from the SEC, contrary to what you might believe about "superior athletes". They're from big schools and small schools, some even from FCS schools. I wonder if they know that they have no business being on the field with the goliath former-SEC players. LOL

Rafiki.
Look dude...I'm not starting a fight or anything....I think Boise State is very good football team...how good? I don't know...
I'm not really sure how good Bama is yet.I would for Bama and Boise St. to play for the title.
And If Boise St beats Alabama....I'll be the first to PM you and congradulate you.
What I have a problem with is the roads,that each team has to travel to get there,to seem to be compared equally.

On the NFL though,..take any teams rosters and look at the percentages of players from BCS schools campared to
the smaller conf.

Rafiki
10-08-2010, 06:25 PM
Rafiki.
Look dude...I'm not starting a fight or anything....I think Boise State is very good football team...how good? I don't know...
I'm not really sure how good Bama is yet.I would for Bama and Boise St. to play for the title.
And If Boise St beats Alabama....I'll be the first to PM you and congradulate you.
What I have a problem with is the roads,that each team has to travel to get there,to seem to be compared equally.

On the NFL though,..take any teams rosters and look at the percentages of players from BCS schools campared to
the smaller conf.

I know you're not starting a fight. I'm not trying to start a fight either. You don't see me starting threads about how glorious Boise State is and how unfair things are, etc, etc. In fact, I refuse to open game threads because I know what the response will be (see last year's fiesta bowl thread). But if people want to hop on and start talking trash, I'm going to defend my team.