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NJPhinFan21
11-01-2010, 03:06 PM
do.not.wait. go get him. Marshall & Moss good lord. Go now Jeff get him!!!

sinPHIN
11-01-2010, 03:09 PM
and he is free for the year. the viqueens have to pay his salary. get this guy. but he has to clear waivers

NJPhinFan21
11-01-2010, 03:13 PM
where are we on the waiver wire??

Nublar7
11-01-2010, 03:16 PM
where are we on the waiver wire??Middle of the pack. The Bills have the first crack at him.

If he clears waivers, I wouldn't mind Miami sniffing around him. Imagine Marshall, Moss and Bess on the field at once. WOW. Doubt it happens, but it would be nice even if Moss were to be here for only the rest of this season.

sinPHIN
11-01-2010, 03:16 PM
have no idea,but i doubt he will fall to us. jeff has the balls to do it. tuna isnt here to stop it

napsndreds
11-01-2010, 03:16 PM
I agree.. Get this deal done!

sinPHIN
11-01-2010, 03:18 PM
moss, marshall, and bess in the slot. you cant dbl team both moss and bmarsh. it would be crazy. to bad it probly wont happen

finnyfan4life
11-01-2010, 03:19 PM
Why...we dont even throw to the star receiver we already have. Let this diva go elsewhere.

NJPhinFan21
11-01-2010, 03:20 PM
Moss, Marshall & Bess....good lord i'm drooling, imagine what Henne must be thinking right now...

JEDIJ007
11-01-2010, 03:22 PM
Do that ****.

Dolfandenny
11-01-2010, 03:22 PM
I would doubt Moss would want too be a Buffalo Bill. At least with us he would have a chance too get back at the Patsies.

HeartbreakKid28
11-01-2010, 03:23 PM
Dolphins would be insane to not put a claim on on a guy they could get on the Vikings salary. Coming here he would know he'd be 2nd behind Marshall, but Moss has more speed and he is the speedy deep threat Miami is missing. Marshall and Moss with Bess in the slot and Hartline coming in to try and break free since Moss and Marshall will have to be covered. Moss would also be a great decoy to take pressue off Marshall.

Though, it probably won't happen. Dolphins are 4-3, which is good enough for 1st place in the NFC West. Have to imagine the Seahawks or Rams or Panthers want him. But, Dolphins should still put a claim in.

The Vikings have a sinking ship and Moss would probably like to play for a team in the thick of things like Miami, but he can't really choose can he? If the Panthers or Seahawks get the claim he can't say no right?

SuperMarksBros.
11-01-2010, 03:23 PM
I'm not usually gotta-pick-up-this-player-or-that-player-asap guy...but we gotta pick up moss asap.

satz
11-01-2010, 03:24 PM
cannot wait to see him blow up another team.

p-double
11-01-2010, 03:25 PM
I'm with ya on that we need some speed bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

p-double
11-01-2010, 03:26 PM
WTF you talking about him blowing up the team. he was hardly there!!!!!!!!!!!

Romy148
11-01-2010, 03:27 PM
Man this is a dream come true and Miami has never been known for letting dreams come true, so I doubt this would happen this would really put us over the top. Marshall is getting Doubled and tripled covered Imagine Moss one on one and bess bring covered by LBs. Of course we have no balls the Jets will probably get him lol.

rainmaker1313
11-01-2010, 03:28 PM
All this doesnt really help when henning still calls for 5 yard passes

But on another note, why was Moss dropped when they have to pay for him regardless? I really dont understand this?

Nublar7
11-01-2010, 03:30 PM
Why...we dont even throw to the star receiver we already have. Let this diva go elsewhere.We don't? Last time I looked, Marshall is on pace to have his best season yet, receptions and yards wise. Also, he is well on pace to SHATTER the team record of receptions in one season.

Don't throw to our star receiver? LMAO. He is getting the ball a lot.

Bta72dolphins
11-01-2010, 03:30 PM
Moss will not be as useful as we would hope. I think he would be more of a problem, but you know if we dont jets will and whether you like it or not he will be good with the Jets.

Pengh
11-01-2010, 03:30 PM
how many teams can choose before us? where are we on the list?

Nublar7
11-01-2010, 03:31 PM
It is a very exciting thought, but lets not get caught up in it too much. Odds of Moss coming to Miami are very slim.

zicofirol
11-01-2010, 03:31 PM
holy ****, get him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HeartbreakKid28
11-01-2010, 03:32 PM
All this doesnt really help when henning still calls for 5 yard passes

But on another note, why was Moss dropped when they have to pay for him regardless? I really dont understand this?

Because the Vikings are a bad organization and Childress is a moron who only has a job because of what Favre did last year. Lions will finish 3rd this year, maybe 2nd if the Bears keep floundering, and Vikings last.

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 03:32 PM
For half a season, I would do it. I'm onboard with this.

rainmaker1313
11-01-2010, 03:35 PM
I am also really all for this, for the fact that is just freezes opposing defenses. Seperation and taking the double teams off marshall. This could create havoc.
and hell its Free!!!!

oasis
11-01-2010, 03:35 PM
A second alpha receiver to become frustrated by Henne's shortcomings? This one won't keep his mouth shut in the lockerroom. I want it to work out but my head knows it's a bad idea.

NJPhinFan21
11-01-2010, 03:37 PM
hey X who is that!!! good lord

oasis
11-01-2010, 03:39 PM
hate to say it but I agree with the jest fan...it was clear what BMarsh needed (money) to make him content. With Moss it goes beyond that.

JEDIJ007
11-01-2010, 03:39 PM
This isn't ****ing madden.

sinPHIN
11-01-2010, 03:40 PM
i want him more for getting everyone off bmarsh

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 03:40 PM
hey X who is that!!! good lord

My wife.... I wish

Her name is Maryse Ouellet.

Romy148
11-01-2010, 03:43 PM
Get him NOW Plz!!!

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 03:45 PM
Miami and Seattle already expressing interest in claiming Moss off waivers. Dolphins would want to block Patriots.

www.twitter.com/JuddZulgad

MadDog 88
11-01-2010, 03:48 PM
If Seattle is interested that puts Miami out of it.

Tunaphish429
11-01-2010, 03:48 PM
Wow Seattle would have a crack at him first..

I wonder if Moss would want another Crack at the Pats?

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 03:48 PM
Bring him in and fire Henning. There's nothing to lose.

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 03:48 PM
If Seattle is interested that puts Miami out of it.

Seattle needs to put the claim, we will see.

rainmaker1313
11-01-2010, 03:49 PM
can Moss block a teams interest????
cause I think he would want Miami over most teams!

datruth55
11-01-2010, 03:49 PM
Who the heck is Judd Zulgad? Is he the beat reporter for the local paper in Minn.?

SRM
11-01-2010, 03:49 PM
**** blocking ftw..

zicofirol
11-01-2010, 03:49 PM
If Seattle is interested that puts Miami out of it.
unless Moss doesn't want to play for the Seahawks...

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 03:49 PM
Wow Seattle would have a crack at him first..

I wonder if Moss would want another Crack at the Pats?

Even if he does, if Seattle claims him there's nothing Miami can do.

Bagga-Viagra
11-01-2010, 03:50 PM
I would welcome him to the team but I just can't see Sparano wanting a player like that on this team.

Bta72dolphins
11-01-2010, 03:50 PM
I am sticking to this more bad then it is good.

finfan75
11-01-2010, 03:50 PM
Keep him the hell out of Miami...

Vaark
11-01-2010, 03:50 PM
A desperate Singletary would likely put in a claim regardless, but especially now if it's gonna preempt Pete Carroll.

SRM
11-01-2010, 03:51 PM
I have to wonder how we would handle Moss if he acts up.. we couldn't even handle Porter. We kept freaking Cameron Wake on the bench just so we wouldn't upset Porter.

jree
11-01-2010, 03:52 PM
I would welcome him to the team but I just can't see Sparano wanting a player like that on this team.

I think Sparano is going to consult with Dan Carpenter to see if he's okay with it

Dolfan77
11-01-2010, 03:52 PM
Marshall, Moss, Bess. Is that legal??

SA_BUTTA
11-01-2010, 03:53 PM
How does Seattle get priority??

jree
11-01-2010, 03:53 PM
I have to wonder how we would handle Moss if he acts up.. we couldn't even handle Porter. We kept freaking Cameron Wake on the bench just so we wouldn't upset Porter.

Its easy, cut him. We don't have to pay him this year

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 03:54 PM
On NFLN: Seattle and Miami are teams showing interest in Moss.

www.twitter.com/BrianCarriveau

mtlfinfan
11-01-2010, 03:54 PM
Lombardi just mentioned that trouble players is not something that would scare off Sparano.

J Tes
11-01-2010, 03:54 PM
Why does Seattle have priority over Miami? They're both 4-3. Whats the tie breaker?

DolfanISS
11-01-2010, 03:57 PM
i think sparano is going to consult with dan carpenter to see if he's okay with it

lol

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 03:57 PM
Teams likely to consider claiming Randy Moss on waivers: Cowboys, Redskins, Rams, Bears, Dolphins, Raiders, Chiefs, Jets, Patriots.

www.twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

t2thejz
11-01-2010, 03:57 PM
Bet the Cowboys claim him haha!

Yessir
11-01-2010, 03:57 PM
YESSS please

finsfanjay13
11-01-2010, 03:57 PM
This is probably more of a strategic move than anything else. Miami putting in a claim blocks both the Jets and Patriots from obtaining Moss.

Wildbill3
11-01-2010, 03:58 PM
whatever team gets him would likely try to trade him back to NE lol. on a side note, serves the vikings right for all those years ago when meathead was thier headcoach and bitchslapped Rick Spielman. Karma mother****ers.

SRM
11-01-2010, 03:58 PM
Do they really think the Raiders are going to do that again? Lol..

Abhenne7
11-01-2010, 03:59 PM
Why does Seattle have priority over Miami? They're both 4-3. Whats the tie breaker? Same here, i think were both missing something

Romy148
11-01-2010, 03:59 PM
Why would the Jets or Cowboys need him(Cowboys got the best trio of receivers in the league) man some people just can never be satisfied!!!! Besides Cowboys need him to play Qb not receiver lol.

finsfanjay13
11-01-2010, 03:59 PM
Its easy, cut him. We don't have to pay him this year

According to PFT, if he gets claimed off waivers, the claiming team will pay the pro-rated portion of his salary. If he clears waivers, then whoever signs him will not have to pay the salary. Minnesota will.

vaneasy2338
11-01-2010, 04:00 PM
I don't like it. With a Vikings team in desperate need of a playmaking wideout, they clearly felt Moss wasn't doing it. Maybe he was just being his lazy self, and he wasn't happy with his situation.

mtlfinfan
11-01-2010, 04:00 PM
Perhaps this is where our three losses will help us in picking up Randy Moss as we are ahead of the Pats and
Jets in the waiver wire.

SA_BUTTA
11-01-2010, 04:00 PM
Bet the Cowboys claim him haha!
That would do them absolutely no good...LOL

t2thejz
11-01-2010, 04:00 PM
When do we know who put claims in and who won?

ChambersChamps
11-01-2010, 04:02 PM
Bring him on board if we can!!! The Vikings were losers and the team was run by a moron of a coach named Brnad Childress. I live up in Packer country and I know how terrible the Vikings organization is. Moss will play hard for us and we have a regime and coaching staff like the PAtriots. We have leaders and players who play hard and would get him to play hard. He is embarressed by this and he will want to come out with avengence after this! I would want him so if we can get him we have to snag him up!!!!!

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 04:02 PM
If I hear someone say Miami would not take Moss cause of character concerns I will laugh in your face

Bagga-Viagra
11-01-2010, 04:02 PM
No way this happens. Henning doesn't have any routes deep enough for Moss to be effective.

buxster07
11-01-2010, 04:03 PM
Marshall, Moss, and Bess would be insane.

It could be reasonable as good injury insurance for the wr corp.

Plus it could also assist in Roberto Wallace's development, they look similar in frame type.

absoluteLance
11-01-2010, 04:04 PM
I would doubt Moss would want too be a Buffalo Bill. At least with us he would have a chance too get back at the Patsies.

from his after game celebration with the patriots and his press conference. what makes you think he has any desire to "get back at them"

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 04:04 PM
No way this happens. Henning doesn't have any routes deep enough for Moss to be effective.

Well, fire Henning. Besides, the rumors that Tony is going take away Henning's playcalling duties seems to have some merit after yesterday's game.

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 04:04 PM
Broncos could take a chance at Moss, remember he coached him in NE.

Chubby
11-01-2010, 04:05 PM
It would be a nice FU to the Pats if he could come in and play well. A little redemption for Welker.
Chubbs

zicofirol
11-01-2010, 04:05 PM
I don't like it. With a Vikings team in desperate need of a playmaking wideout, they clearly felt Moss wasn't doing it. Maybe he was just being his lazy self, and he wasn't happy with his situation.
NO, that team is in disarray. As the raiders know, moss bags it when he plays on a crappy team. Also Moss basically said he didn't like being in Minnesota yesterday during his press conference.

JoeFin
11-01-2010, 04:10 PM
He's licking his chops ... literally can't wait.

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 04:12 PM
That man either needs to: Die, retire, or be fired. I hate that man.

Abhenne7
11-01-2010, 04:14 PM
I wonder what it would take to get henning out of here. hmmmm

SkapePhin
11-01-2010, 04:14 PM
Wasnt Pennington Moss' college QB? Do they have a good relationship? If so, could that be a factor in keeping Moss in check here? The bad would be that Moss would publicly stump for Pennington to take over if Henne and him don't click.

amir7
11-01-2010, 04:15 PM
From a pure football perspective, this would be a great move. I don't care if he doesn't catch a single pass all year, his presence alone on the field is worth a claim. Look at Welker AFTER moss left, and look at Harvin AFTER moss arrived. He would make this wr trio of marshall bess and moss unstoppable. Add to that a chance to stick it to the patriots, and this becomes a no brainer to me.

Worst case scenario it doesnt work-out, then we let him walk at the end of the year.

This move could put this tem over the hump

oasis
11-01-2010, 04:20 PM
Had to do it. :)

DeathStar
11-01-2010, 04:21 PM
there is the X-Pac and his Fire Henning crusade

Abhenne7
11-01-2010, 04:22 PM
Im still iffy about moss. This guy is a major concern character wise, and im not seeing his will to play. Who knows, maybe he just knows the vikings suck and doesnt want to play for them anymore!

Valandui
11-01-2010, 04:23 PM
I have to wonder how we would handle Moss if he acts up.. we couldn't even handle Porter. We kept freaking Cameron Wake on the bench just so we wouldn't upset Porter.
The thing is that Brandon Marshall is the clear number 1 here. He couldn't come in and expect everyone to drop everything for him. When the coaching staff came in, Porter was already the leader here. It wouldn't be the same situation with Moss.

Pitbull13
11-01-2010, 04:23 PM
Yes, I'm not sure who would say no but they are crazy if they did

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 04:23 PM
"Randy is very sad to find out about being waived by the Vikings this morning," Moss' agent, Joel Segal, said in an e-mail to the Star Tribune. "He has and always will remain fond of the fans in Minnesota. We will let the process of the waiver wire take its course and we will move on from there."

Moss now will be on the waiver wire until Tuesday afternoon. Segal said he already has heard from Miami and Seattle. Any team that claims Moss would be responsible for the balance of Moss' $6.4 million base salary or the Vikings will owe the balance

http://bit.ly/ckcqRC

miamiron
11-01-2010, 04:23 PM
I wonder what it would take to get henning out of here. hmmmm

Signing Moss to kick field goals for us...might do it

Chubby
11-01-2010, 04:24 PM
Honestly I do not know how to vote. My Heart says Yes, but my Brain is telling me No!

Oh who am I kidding, I am an emotional little bish when it comes to the fins. BRING IN MOSS!!!!
Chubbs

overworkedirish
11-01-2010, 04:24 PM
According to PFT, if he gets claimed off waivers, the claiming team will pay the pro-rated portion of his salary. If he clears waivers, then whoever signs him will not have to pay the salary. Minnesota will.

According to NFLN, you have it backwards my friend.

NOTHING TO LOSE HERE, NOT EVEN CASH.

EDIT: Did they report it wrong or did I hear it wrong? If someone could post official rules on waiver wire payment stuff, that would be extremely helpful.

72champagne
11-01-2010, 04:24 PM
moss hates everybody. especially white folk.

Abhenne7
11-01-2010, 04:25 PM
Signing Moss to kick field goals for us...might do it You might be on to something

Boy From School
11-01-2010, 04:26 PM
If he gave it his all on every play, then yes.

nyjunc
11-01-2010, 04:26 PM
They have a great relationship, way back when he called Chad the best QB he ever played w/ but that was before he played w/ Brady.

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 04:26 PM
I don't think Pennington plays any kind of role in whether we aquire Moss or not.

miamiron
11-01-2010, 04:26 PM
I would welcome him to the team but I just can't see Sparano wanting a player like that on this team.

If Moss could kick field goals he might have a chance with Sparano

Ilovemyfins4eva
11-01-2010, 04:27 PM
go get moss. i dont care what people say about character issue. the guy isnt as bad as it seems. he would be a low risk, high reward guy. we need a major spark to our offense. the guy will be playing for a new contract. he will perform.

for all of those people who may say that he is not worth it, just think about how explosive our offense can be. try covering marshall and moss on the outside, with bess in the slot. good luck with that.

i dont care about character. please get real. we have tried for years to have ''good guys'' in here, and how has that worked out for us? most of these teams that win have mean players. not saying moss is a mean type of guy, but he would bring a different type of attitude to the team. go out and get him.

again, everything to gain, nothing to lose. he acts up. waive his ***. he is playing for a new contract, he would be playing for a team that is making a playoff push, it will give him another game to go up against the guy who called him a ''slouch'' in revis, he will play motivated.

can you really blame him for this Minnesota stint? everyone hates childress, they cant stand the guy, he isnt the only one.

PLEASE MIAMI, GO OUT AND MAKE US A DEADLY OFFENSE. WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE, WE WONT NEED TO GIVE HIM BIG MONEY. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!

buxster07
11-01-2010, 04:28 PM
Why would this make sense?



We'd surely have a vengeance-filled/stoked gamer when we'd play against the Pats. Could turn the tide when we have to play them again later this year.
Most importantly, moss would be able to reveal nuances about the Pats offense to our defense.
Could assist the wr development of Wallace- they're body type is similar


To win those next divisional games, this would be a win-win situation- even if he's here only for this year.

Pennington10
11-01-2010, 04:29 PM
YES YES YES get him!!!!

Mogwai
11-01-2010, 04:29 PM
He's already been dropped by two competent front office's this year for not only giving no effort, but diminished production. What delusion juice are you all sucking on to believe he'd come here and pull his crazy **** together enough to be a positive for this team?

Ilovemyfins4eva
11-01-2010, 04:30 PM
YES YES YES. he is a low risk, high reward guy. we wont need to dish out lots of money, he will add another dynamic guy to the offense, nothing to lose here, please get him. please please please.

p.s, we can use him this week vs Baltimore. imagine Marshall and moss on the outside and Bess in the slot. good luck d coordinators.

Chubby
11-01-2010, 04:30 PM
He's already been dropped by two competent front office's this year for not only giving no effort, but diminished production. What delusion juice are you all sucking on to believe he'd come here and pull his crazy **** together enough to be a positive for this team?
Childress competent?
Please
Chubbs

Pennington10
11-01-2010, 04:31 PM
Pennington and Moss are def friendly, idk what level, but they played at Marshall together and Pennington wanted him to be a Jet back when he signed with NE.

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 04:33 PM
I say, yes. Why not?

zackmandude63
11-01-2010, 04:33 PM
Character Issue??? Wasnt Marshall thought to have Character Issues? DO IT IRELAND, DO IT!!!!

walt
11-01-2010, 04:34 PM
They have a great relationship, way back when he called Chad the best QB he ever played w/ but that was before he played w/ Brady.

And back when Pennington could throw the ball more than 20 yards.

phishxhead
11-01-2010, 04:35 PM
No, I like BM more and I think it will cause trouble having 2 alpha reciever dogs.

AlphaPHIN
11-01-2010, 04:37 PM
Yes, he is better than Hartline even when he is not trying...you telling me you wouldnt want him if it only meant that teams stop double covering Marshall? Or even better...if they keep doubling Marshall and leave Moss in single coverage? YIKES!

DO IT NOW NOW NOW!

Ilovemyfins4eva
11-01-2010, 04:38 PM
how about we give moss the money that henning is making this season and release henning. wish we could do that, lol.

Kdawg954
11-01-2010, 04:38 PM
I mean I don't think we get him for free. We have to pay him like 3.5 million for the rest of the season.

Please make this happen!!

Marshall/Moss/Bess/Hartline/Wallace

Your 2 starters focus on WR, your other 3 participate in special teams.

Now THAT is a WR corps . . . last year was Ginn/Hartline/Bess/Camarillo/London lol

Drfletcherdc
11-01-2010, 04:40 PM
We need a number 2 or a 1b. Do it and do it now! I bet Moss would have a fire underneath him and he could stretch the field. It will be like Christmas.

unclemonty
11-01-2010, 04:42 PM
UPDATE: he has not officially been waived yet deadline was 4pm eastern, so at this time he is still a minnesota viking.

UPDATE2:Adam Schefter still has us #18 but he has order of a few teams slightly different: Redskins (15th), Bears (17th), Dolphins (18th), Chiefs (25th)

UPDATE3:here is nfl.com list alot are using this for waiver order
http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=league&sort=OVERALL_WIN_PCT&order=asc&colSel=5

here is order from espn, this 1 should be the best available
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/21003/wheres-your-team-in-nfl-waiver-order

this list is not official but we are somewhere #17-#19 in claim order.

I believe we are #18 in current waiver order. Moss was playing on a $6.4 million salary. The team that signs him will owe him 9 game checks of this salary, or $3.38-3.6 million this season. Teams I believe will consider putting in a claim that are ahead of us are: Denver, SD, Wash, StLouis, Oak, Sea. IMO it is a no-brainer for the Dolphins to put in a claim. Even at a half year rental he probably brings back compensation if he signs elsewhere in the offseason. By 4 pm eastern tomorrow we will know who wins the waiver claim.
** he has not been officially waived so we will not know tomorrow**

1 Buffalo Bills
2 Dallas Cowboys
3 Carolina Panthers
4 San Francisco 49ers
5 Denver Broncos
6 Minnesota Vikings
7 Detroit Lions
8 Cleveland Browns
9 Cincinnati Bengals
10 San Diego Chargers
11 Arizona Cardinals
12 Washington Redskins
13 St. Louis Rams
14 Oakland Raiders
15 Jacksonville Jaguars
16 Seattle Seahawks
17 Chicago Bears
18 Miami Dolphins
19 Philadelphia Eagles
20 Tennessee Titans
21 New Orleans Saints
22 Green Bay Packers
23 Indianapolis Colts
24 Houston Texans
25 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
26 Pittsburgh Steelers
27 New York Jets
28 New York Giants
29 Kansas City Chiefs
30 Baltimore Ravens
31 Atlanta Falcons
32 New England Patriots

Chubby
11-01-2010, 04:42 PM
However this Randy Moss fiasco ends up, lets give our FO some credit. It looks like it took all of 30-40 mins (and for all we know even quicker) for Miami to contact Moss's agent after finding out he was a FA. I love that no matter what they are being agressive about looking at every option and are willing to be agressive in improving our team. Even this late into the season.

Ya most likely every team will end up atleast calling him, but seatle and Miami were the first and only ones to be mentoned by Moss's agent as being interested so quickly and so far.
Chubbs

Kdawg954
11-01-2010, 04:42 PM
To me, Moss brings that vertical threat that turns this team into a contender THIS YEAR. Play the guy who is gonna click the best with those 2 big WR's. This now becomes the best trio of WR's in the league IMO, if it happens of course, which is HIGHLY unlikely, but a possiblity with Parcells not here.

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 04:43 PM
I could see several of those teams putting in a claim for Moss. I would like to have him here, but it looks like a pipedream when you look at it like that.

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 04:44 PM
Q: Just heard Vikings released Randy Moss. Fins should claim him ASAP. Omar, Oakland Park.

A: Well, it’s not that simple. When is it ever simple with Moss? First off, there’s still $3.38 million left on his contract. Not an outrageous sum, but still enough to throw some things out of whack in the Dolphins’ universe. Where, for instance, both running backs are unsigned for next year and Davone Bess recently signed a hard-won extension through 2013 for less money annually than Moss would get to finish out the season.

Secondly, wherever Moss goes, even being claimed off the scrap heap, he’s going to expect at least a good-faith promise that his new employer will take care of him financially after the season. Without that, you run the risk of watching Moss go into Operation Shutdown at his next workplace as well.

Thirdly, how would Moss co-exist with Brandon Marshall in the Dolphins’ receivers room? They might sound like a dream pairing in theory, and I’ll admit the possibility is pretty tantalizing, but how do you think the Beast would respond to having to slice up the pie into even more pieces? Marshall already has been limited to just five catches in each of the past two games. Now along comes Moss and everybody’s just supposed to be one big happy family? As Dolphins offensive coordinator Dan Henning said last week, “If you ask Brandon, you should throw it every down as long as you throw it to him.” I’m pretty sure Moss feels the same way.

Fourth, how much does Moss really have left? The Patriots deemed him expendable a quarter of the way through another playoff-caliber season, and how often have they been wrong about a big decision like that? Moss then went to Minnesota and didn’t exactly set the world on fire (13 catches for 174 yards and two touchdowns). In fact, he didn’t even last a month. Oh, and he turns 34 a week after the next Super Bowl.

Another complication is the Dolphins’ 4-3 record. That puts them behind at least 15 other teams in the waiver line, and the Bears (also 4-3 along with the Eagles) might get to pick ahead of them as well based on their identical 2009 records. What are the odds Moss passes through the hands of the Cowboys, Redskins, Rams, Broncos (Josh McDaniels had him in New England), 49ers and Raiders (Al Davis loves his tearful reunions).

Now, should Moss get all the way to the Dolphins in the middle of the waivers process over these next 72 hours, they may well want to claim Moss, if for no other reason than to keep him away from their AFC East rivals in New England (Didn’t all that lovey-dovey stuff make you want to throw up Sunday?) or the Meadowlands. Should Moss clear waivers, he can be signed for the veteran’s minimum while still collecting the rest of his pay from the imploding Vikings.

Would Moss behave as a Dolphin? Who knows? But the presence of Chad Pennington, his former quarterback at Marshall and longtime Friend of Randy, would certainly give the Dolphins something to think about. Then again, that wouldn’t be Pennington out there on the field directly passes at Moss. It would be Chad Henne.

The Dolphins already let Moss get past them in the 1998 NFL draft, trading down and taking the regrettable John Avery instead. They let him get past them in 2007, when the Patriots stole him from the Raiders for a fourth-round draft pick. And they watched Moss fly right past them again less than a month ago, when wound up back in Minnesota for another mid-round draft pick.

If it comes to this, are you willing to let Moss slip through the Dolphins’ fingers one more time? Or do you roll the dice, pay the money, pair him with Marshall and hope their egos don’t cause the whole team to implode?

Me? I stand pat and let him go past again. Even if he winds up back with the Patriots or with the Jets, I let him go and wish him the best of luck.

That’s how sacred the competitive spirit is to me. That’s how offensive I find the very notion a Hall of Fame talent like Randy Moss only gives top effort when it suits him.

shar.es/09MG1

Minnphin
11-01-2010, 04:44 PM
Why does Seattle have priority over Miami? They're both 4-3. Whats the tie breaker?

Believe it would be the same as the draft. Which would mean that the first tiebreaker is strength of schedule. Since we've had one of the toughest schedules, and they're in the NFC West, and have a combined opponent schedule of less than .500, I'm guessing they have priority.

Kdawg954
11-01-2010, 04:44 PM
Howver this Randy Moss fiasco ends up, lets give our FO some credit. It looks like it took all of 30-40 mins (and for all we know even quicker) for Miami to contact Moss's agent after finding out he was a FA. I love that no matter what they are being agressive about looking at every option and are willing to be agressive in improving our team. Even this late into the season.

Ya most likely every team will end up atleast calling me, but seatle and Miami were the first and only ones to be mentoned by Moss's agent as being interested so quickly and so far.
Chubbs

You can tell they weren't that happy with Hartline by not starting him on Sunday. Wallace came in and stepped out of bounds and still dropped the TD. I think if Moss falls into their laps, they pull the trigger. Though with the Cheatriots they may have paid Moss 10 million uner the table to sabatoge every team the Patriots play LOL

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 04:46 PM
However this Randy Moss fiasco ends up, lets give our FO some credit. It looks like it took all of 30-40 mins (and for all we know even quicker) for Miami to contact Moss's agent after finding out he was a FA. I love that no matter what they are being agressive about looking at every option and are willing to be agressive in improving our team. Even this late into the season.

Ya most likely every team will end up atleast calling him, but seatle and Miami were the first and only ones to be mentoned by Moss's agent as being interested so quickly and so far.
Chubbs

Why wouldn't you call? It's not as if the minute you claim him you have to give him a new 20 year deal for a bajillion dollars. Randy Moss for half a season for $3.5 million is worth the risk.

Ilovemyfins4eva
11-01-2010, 04:47 PM
please ireland and co, please get him. give us people an early christmas present. please please please. we can make some serious noise with this on offense, if moss plays to his full potential, which he will because he is going to want to get paid next year, we will be lethal [ well henning as our oc still, fine maybe not lethal lol] and teams will fear us. no defense can stop marshall and moss on the outside with bess in the slot, a very good ol, and a good running game. cant happen.

please please please, i know i sound like a little kid asking for this, but do it. show us fans u want to win now. dont give me the excuse of character, we have brought in guys to make our team a ''good character'' team for years now, and yet its translated to ****. this cant do us any worse, only better.


DO IT MIAMI, DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

zach8111
11-01-2010, 04:48 PM
1 Buffalo Bills - NO
2 Dallas Cowboys - NO
3 Carolina Panthers- NO
4 San Francisco 49ers- NO
5 Denver Broncos- Possibly
6 Minnesota Vikings - NO
7 Detroit Lions - possibly but doubtful
8 Cleveland Browns - NO
9 Cincinnati Bengals - NO
10 San Diego Chargers - Possibly but doubtful
11 Arizona Cardinals - NO
12 Washington Redskins - Possibly but doubtful (shanahan doesnt like characters)
13 St. Louis Rams - Possibly
14 Oakland Raiders -NO
15 Jacksonville Jaguars - NO
16 Seattle Seahawks - Possibly
17 Philadelphia Eagles - NO
18 Miami Dolphins

Here is the teams i think might be interested

JERSEYFINFAN23
11-01-2010, 04:49 PM
of Course , he know he is a 33 yr old WR and that Marshell is WR. He would still command attention of the D, more so the Hartline, Wallace.
Marshell, Moss, Bess, Ricky , Ronnie, no TE, play action all day...

NJDOLPHAN76
11-01-2010, 04:50 PM
Nothing to lose here....it would be awesome!

etsudolfan
11-01-2010, 04:50 PM
how does that work exactly? both the Dolphins and Seahawks are at 4-3...how do they decide if thats the case?

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 04:52 PM
According to the Chicago Tribune, the Bears are "unlikely" to make a run at Randy Moss on waivers.
Maybe if Moss could pass protect. According to the Tribune's Dan Pompei, the Bears "like their top receivers" and "don't need to bring in a troublemaker at midseason." NFL Network's Jason La Canfora reports that "several" NFL executives believe Moss could easily end up back with the Patriots, although Profootballtalk.com's Gregg Rosenthal has made a convincing case as to why that's unlikely. The Pats are 3-0 since giving Moss the boot.


Bucs coach Raheem Morris indicated Monday that his team will not be putting in a waiver claim for Randy Moss.
Morris thinks his team is the best in the NFC already, so he doesn't need upgrades. "We have six young dynamic wideouts that we're building for the future - We love what we've got," he said. "We probably won't require Randy Moss' services." The Bills, Cowboys, Panthers, 49ers, and Broncos -- in that order -- head up the waiver priority list. The Redskins are 12th, and the Rams 13th.


Coach Mike Shanahan wouldn't rule out the possibility Monday of the Redskins putting in a waiver claim on Randy Moss.
ESPN's Adam Schefter, who wrote a book on Shanahan, included the Skins as a potential team of interest for Moss in a Monday Twitter post. Schefter also mentioned the Rams, Bears, Dolphins, Raiders, Chiefs, Jets, Patriots, Cowboys, and Seahawks. The team that acquires Moss on waivers will be on the hook for the $3.38 million remainder of his $6.4M salary. According to Darin Gantt of the Rock Hill Herald, the Panthers are unlikely to show intere

www.rotoworld.com

Also, Norv Turner when asked about Moss, said he was happy with his team and players.

Predaphin
11-01-2010, 04:52 PM
YES YES YES. he is a low risk, high reward guy. we wont need to dish out lots of money, he will add another dynamic guy to the offense, nothing to lose here, please get him. please please please.

p.s, we can use him this week vs Baltimore. imagine Marshall and moss on the outside and Bess in the slot. good luck d coordinators.

This would have been a good statement when he was acquired from the Raiders. But not now. His play has diminshed and his career is on the downhill.

Besides, his heart is still in New England. If you watched his press conference yesterday he saluted Bill Belicheck and stated he missed those guys. He wanted to get paid as a Patriot.

I say no thanks to Randy Moss.

unclemonty
11-01-2010, 04:53 PM
Dont forgot he is a big risk, if he doesn't want to be somewhere he simply won't put in any effort. McDaniels reunion in Denver might be his next destination. SD could use a WR for this week BIG time. Snyder wants everyone in Wash. Rams (especially), Raiders, and Seahawks could all use a WR as they are surprisingly all in the playoff hunt. I can't wait to see how this plays out. I think we will definitely put in a claim. Hopefully the 17 above us are scared off by him.

darth_stryder79
11-01-2010, 04:53 PM
If Seattle is interested that puts Miami out of it.

Moss can refuse to show up if Seattle signs him. At least according to PFT.
I guess potential suitors will have to talk to him before hand to make him commit.
I'm all for it, let's get Moss baby. Light a fire under his *** and watch the fireworks.

buxster07
11-01-2010, 04:53 PM
enlightening

rainmaker1313
11-01-2010, 04:56 PM
I believe we are #18 in current waiver order. Moss was playing on a $6.4 million salary. The team that signs him will owe him 9 game checks of this salary, or $3.6 million this season. Teams I believe will consider putting in a claim that are ahead of us are: Denver, SD, Wash, StLouis, Oak, Sea. IMO it is a no-brainer for the Dolphins to put in a claim. Even at a half year rental he probably brings back compensation if he signs elsewhere in the offseason. By 4 pm eastern tomorrow we will know who wins the waiver claim.

1 Buffalo Bills
2 Dallas Cowboys
3 Carolina Panthers
4 San Francisco 49ers
5 Denver Broncos
6 Minnesota Vikings
7 Detroit Lions
8 Cleveland Browns
9 Cincinnati Bengals
10 San Diego Chargers
11 Arizona Cardinals
12 Washington Redskins
13 St. Louis Rams
14 Oakland Raiders
15 Jacksonville Jaguars
16 Seattle Seahawks
17 Philadelphia Eagles
18 Miami Dolphins
19 Chicago Bears
20 Tennessee Titans
21 New Orleans Saints
22 Green Bay Packers
23 Indianapolis Colts
24 Houston Texans
25 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
26 Pittsburgh Steelers
27 New York Jets
28 New York Giants
29 Kansas City Chiefs
30 Baltimore Ravens
31 Atlanta Falcons
32 New England Patriots

I believe the Vikings need to pay his salary for remainder of year

Ilovemyfins4eva
11-01-2010, 04:56 PM
www.rotoworld.com

Also, Norv Turner when asked about Moss, said he was happy with his team and players. Out of all those teams in that article, he is not going to dallas as they r already in turmoil playing for nothing so why pay him when ur not going anywhere, raiders aint happening bc he already failed there once, pats have last dibs, jets got a better record than us so we got it before them if we want, i think bears, fins, skins, rams, seahawks all look like the best options out of all those teams.

i wonder if the rams would try to get him, because they have a young qb playing really well and have a very good shot at that division, so do they risk his development by bringing in moss and hampering it alittle, or do they forget moss and let bradford continue to grow as he is now?

i think if we want him, we have a real good shot.

GO ****IN GET HIM MIAMI.

gator_sensation
11-01-2010, 04:56 PM
The Raiders can be taken off the list

outlawd2u
11-01-2010, 04:57 PM
1 Buffalo Bills - NO
2 Dallas Cowboys - NO
3 Carolina Panthers- NO
4 San Francisco 49ers- NO
5 Denver Broncos- Possibly
6 Minnesota Vikings - NO
7 Detroit Lions - possibly but doubtful
8 Cleveland Browns - NO
9 Cincinnati Bengals - NO
10 San Diego Chargers - Possibly but doubtful
11 Arizona Cardinals - NO
12 Washington Redskins - Possibly but doubtful (shanahan doesnt like characters)
13 St. Louis Rams - Possibly
14 Oakland Raiders -NO
15 Jacksonville Jaguars - NO
16 Seattle Seahawks - Possibly
17 Philadelphia Eagles - NO
18 Miami Dolphins

Here is the teams i think might be interested

No way Was/shannahan would want him, I don't think SD will either with Jackson coming back soon. Det, STL, and Sea I have no clue about to be honest but I'm not sure anyone is going to want him at this point. You just don't end up on a 3rd team in one season without something being ridiculously wrong with you.

AlphaPHIN
11-01-2010, 04:57 PM
This would have been a good statement when he was acquired from the Raiders. But not now. His play has diminshed and his career is on the downhill.

Besides, his heart is still in New England. If you watched his press conference yesterday he saluted Bill Belicheck and stated he missed those guys. He wanted to get paid as a Patriot.

I say no thanks to Randy Moss.

You telling me he isnt better than Brian Hartline and doesnt bring the single missing element that this offense is missing? Im not comparing him to Marshall or Andre Johnson....im comparing him to our current #2 receiver and he is still light years better.

unclemonty
11-01-2010, 04:58 PM
I believe the Vikings need to pay his salary for remainder of year


Not true.
If a team claims him, they are on the hook for his current contract.
If he clears waivers (which will never happen), he reverts to a free agent and Minn would be on the hook for his contract.

rainmaker1313
11-01-2010, 04:59 PM
Again, my question
Can he VETO any pickup and go to the team he wants????

darth_stryder79
11-01-2010, 04:59 PM
Agreed, Moss is definitely not going to a team that isn't a contender this year. He wants a bowl.
If we get him to commit to only us on the phone, he is ours.
He can just refuse to show up to any other team that signs him I think.
So I don't think anyone will sign him unless they get a commitment from hm beforehand.

bobw999
11-01-2010, 05:00 PM
Who ya gonna cover Moss or Marshall? Oh **** Bess is wide effing open in the middle of the field.

M&M (Marshall & Moss)

Hell Yes!

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 05:01 PM
Again, my question
Can he VETO any pickup and go to the team he wants????

He can tell teams that call his agent whether he wants to play for him. However, if a team wants to put a claim on him, they will. Whether Randy wants to show up or not.

ArmyFin7
11-01-2010, 05:03 PM
I don't know if he can veto any pickup, but at this point I'm sure whatever team is going to put in a claim is going to be calling Randy first.

Ilovemyfins4eva
11-01-2010, 05:04 PM
I believe we are #18 in current waiver order. Moss was playing on a $6.4 million salary. The team that signs him will owe him 9 game checks of this salary, or $3.6 million this season. Teams I believe will consider putting in a claim that are ahead of us are: Denver, SD, Wash, StLouis, Oak, Sea. IMO it is a no-brainer for the Dolphins to put in a claim. Even at a half year rental he probably brings back compensation if he signs elsewhere in the offseason. By 4 pm eastern tomorrow we will know who wins the waiver claim.

1 Buffalo Bills
2 Dallas Cowboys
3 Carolina Panthers
4 San Francisco 49ers
5 Denver Broncos
6 Minnesota Vikings
7 Detroit Lions
8 Cleveland Browns
9 Cincinnati Bengals
10 San Diego Chargers
11 Arizona Cardinals
12 Washington Redskins
13 St. Louis Rams
14 Oakland Raiders
15 Jacksonville Jaguars
16 Seattle Seahawks
17 Philadelphia Eagles
18 Miami Dolphins
19 Chicago Bears
20 Tennessee Titans
21 New Orleans Saints
22 Green Bay Packers
23 Indianapolis Colts
24 Houston Texans
25 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
26 Pittsburgh Steelers
27 New York Jets
28 New York Giants
29 Kansas City Chiefs
30 Baltimore Ravens
31 Atlanta Falcons
32 New England Patriots1 Buffalo Bills-no
2 Dallas Cowboys- no, why pay someone 3.6 mill when ur done and dont have him guarenteed for next year
3 Carolina Panthers- no way
4 San Francisco 49ers- no way
5 Denver Broncos- done
6 Minnesota Vikings- lol
7 Detroit Lions- possible, but they got something good going their in detroit, offense seems just fine, but then again wat team cant use a moss
8 Cleveland Browns- no
9 Cincinnati Bengals- already have 2 wr who r character guys, not neccisarly in a bad way, but still character guys. no way.
10 San Diego Chargers- possibly, but spanos is very cheap, also getting jackson back in a few weeks. offense doing just fine
11 Arizona Cardinals-no
12 Washington Redskins- already have enough distractions with mcnabb and shannahan, but with Dan Snyder u never know.
13 St. Louis Rams- wouldnt be a bad fit, but i dont know if stl will want to hamper bradfords development potentially with bringing in a guy like moss, when he seems to be doing fine without any divas
14 Oakland Raiders- been there done that= fail
15 Jacksonville Jaguars- wayne weaver wont spend the money on moss. wouldnt be a bad fit though because they r 4-4 quietly, and will put people in the seats
16 Seattle Seahawks- possible
17 Philadelphia Eagles- highly doubt, tried with owens already and although they made a superbowl, they obviously didn't love the experience
18 Miami Dolphins- would make sense since our offense has been so lame, and can add a major spark. also, a contending team, and another chance to get back at revis , who calls moss a ''slouch''.
19 Chicago Bears
20 Tennessee Titans
21 New Orleans Saints
22 Green Bay Packers
23 Indianapolis Colts
24 Houston Texans
25 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
26 Pittsburgh Steelers
27 New York Jets
28 New York Giants
29 Kansas City Chiefs
30 Baltimore Ravens
31 Atlanta Falcons
32 New England Patriots

Yessir
11-01-2010, 05:04 PM
It's a no friggin brainer. Hell mother bleeping yes. Anyone who says NO is nuts.

massi20
11-01-2010, 05:04 PM
I say take him!!!!!!!!!

armyphin
11-01-2010, 05:04 PM
well, according to ESPN and his agent, miami has contacted him and shown some interest.

Ilovemyfins4eva
11-01-2010, 05:05 PM
not only do i want him, i want him in miami by wed, getting ready for the balt game. we need all the weapons we can get for this week.

DolphinFan87
11-01-2010, 05:06 PM
Agreed, Moss is definitely not going to a team that isn't a contender this year. He wants a bowl.
If we get him to commit to only us on the phone, he is ours.
He can just refuse to show up to any other team that signs him I think.
So I don't think anyone will sign him unless they get a commitment from hm beforehand.

If I was Randy Moss and I wanted to go to the super bowl this year, the dolphins aren't really on my mind. He already knows the division.

darth_stryder79
11-01-2010, 05:07 PM
Damn guys now PFT is saying Moss hasn't been officially cut yet.
WTF.

fairbanksb
11-01-2010, 05:07 PM
No

KDog13
11-01-2010, 05:07 PM
well, according to ESPN and his agent, miami has contacted him and shown some interest.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/26683/26683

Article is right there saying the Seahawks and the Dolphins contacted him.......Imagine Marshall, Moss, Bess, Hartline :)


Also Rotoworld: http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=188684

IronChef
11-01-2010, 05:08 PM
Where do we stand in the waiver process? How many teams are in front of us?

Canadianfishfan
11-01-2010, 05:10 PM
Damn guys now PFT is saying Moss hasn't been officially cut yet.
WTF.

Yup it's a giant mess... cuz if Moss hasn't been cut there is going to be hell to pay in Minny.

What a PR mess!

Aren't you happy Miami stays out of the news most of the time?

kud
11-01-2010, 05:11 PM
F Randy Moss, are you guys kidding. He is the ultimate cancer. And he pouts and stops trying when he's not getting the ball.

armyphin
11-01-2010, 05:11 PM
Well, if Ross can scoop 3 million out from between his couch cushions, or maybe the spare change filling up his car cup holder, why the hell not... might stretch the field, take some heat off Marshall and open up our running game.

PhinsPhan11
11-01-2010, 05:12 PM
I would like to see him on our team. He would be a nice addition.

kud
11-01-2010, 05:12 PM
N. I say N to noobs who don't even deserve the O.

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 05:13 PM
f randy moss, are you guys kidding. He is the ultimate cancer. And he pouts and stops trying when he's not getting the ball.

lmao!!!

23EmilioVasquez
11-01-2010, 05:13 PM
I would take Moss even if he would only show up for the Jets-Patriots Games I honestly wouldn't care

Could you imagine Moss would replace Hartline

Moss>Hartline 100/100 times

He is what we need a deep threat

Could you imagine THE BEAST AND THE FREAK and don't forget THE SLOT (don't know exactly how you guy feel about the last one for Bess nick name if you got a better one please let me know)

darth_stryder79
11-01-2010, 05:14 PM
Yup it's a giant mess... cuz if Moss hasn't been cut there is going to be hell to pay in Minny.

What a PR mess!

Aren't you happy Miami stays out of the news most of the time?

Oh hell yeah man lol. Childress is such a moron, he has completely lost that team.
I'm thinking he was pissed and decided to cut Moss and management was like "uh, hold on, why don't we cut your *** instead." Lol.

IronChef
11-01-2010, 05:14 PM
How did his agent release a statement saying how sad Randy Moss was if he hasnt even found out about it yet?

ckparrothead
11-01-2010, 05:14 PM
I still don't understand how the hell you can re-shuffle waiver priority for Week 8 results when Week 8 isn't even done yet. The Texans and Colts still have a game tonight. I would THINK it would have to be Week 7 priorities.

oasis
11-01-2010, 05:16 PM
I would take Moss even if he would only show up for the Jets-Patriots Games I honestly wouldn't care

Could you imagine Moss would replace Hartline

Moss>Hartline 100/100 times

He is what we need a deep threat

Could you imagine THE BEAST AND THE FREAK and don't forget THE SLOT (don't know exactly how you guy feel about the last one for Bess nick name if you got a better one please let me know)

LMAO. The SLOT?

VA_Finfan
11-01-2010, 05:19 PM
Get him

67Stang
11-01-2010, 05:20 PM
OK, this is just silly. They played college football together 10-11 years ago. That doesn't mean anything now. By this type of thinking, Jake Long would have a factor with sticking with Henne.

GRYPHONK
11-01-2010, 05:20 PM
lol, if he wasn't cut yet. Does that mean there can be tampering charges against Miami and Seattle?

IronChef
11-01-2010, 05:21 PM
How did his agent release a statement saying how sad Randy Moss was if he hasnt even found out about it yet?

67Stang
11-01-2010, 05:22 PM
But wait, Moss and Penny played at Marshall and we have Brandon Marshall!!!!! I think this could play a major part in the decision making process!

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 05:23 PM
And back when Pennington could throw the ball more than 20 yards.

Could he ever throw the ball over 20 yards?

bobw999
11-01-2010, 05:23 PM
Have you ever heard Penny and Moss talk...sound (accent) just like each other IMO.

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 05:23 PM
But wait, Moss and Penny played at Marshall and we have Brandon Marshall!!!!! I think this could play a major part in the decision making process!

:lol:

darth_stryder79
11-01-2010, 05:24 PM
It's bad enough Minny is putting up a horrible show for their fans this season. Now they sucked the whole league into their soap opera drama lol.
Moss better be cut by the end of this. My expectations are already high. I don't want them to come down.

hooshoops
11-01-2010, 05:25 PM
even if moss came here henning wouldn't use him right...

PhinsPhan11
11-01-2010, 05:26 PM
We should bring him in. He is a nice addition to have opposite of Marshall.

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 05:27 PM
even if moss came here henning wouldn't use him right...

Fire Henning. Problem solved.

hooshoops
11-01-2010, 05:28 PM
that's a lot of teams to let him pass by...st louis rams could sure use a wr...and he would provide some buzz for them

jax needs some buzz also and seattle...doubt we get a sniff

VA_Finfan
11-01-2010, 05:30 PM
St. Louis and Seattle are the only teams that worry me that will put in a claim....

IronChef
11-01-2010, 05:30 PM
Knowing Henning the first thing he would do is line Moss up at QB in the wildcat formation and tell him to hit the hole as hard as he can...

unclemonty
11-01-2010, 05:30 PM
UPDATE: he has not officially been waived yet deadline was 4pm eastern, so at this time he is still a minnesota viking.

massi20
11-01-2010, 05:33 PM
what should be illegal is the pats getting him. They just got a 3rd round pick. That would be cheating, but then again cheating is something the pats do

SebasMiamiFan
11-01-2010, 05:39 PM
Time for the fireworks to go off.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2010/11/219c2gi-1.jpg

phishxhead
11-01-2010, 05:39 PM
Randy Moss is essentially a FA, he will decide where he goes by simply telling any team he doesn't want to go to that he will dog it if they claim him.

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 05:40 PM
The Miami Dolphins would be an interesting landing spot. The Dolphins have struggled on offense, kicking 10 field goals over the past two weeks while scoring only two touchdowns.

They have dangerous receiver Brandon Marshall, but with Moss stretching defenses, Marshall and Davone Bess would have more room to make plays. A stagnating run game also would open up with defensive backs playing deeper.

www.twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

67Stang
11-01-2010, 05:40 PM
I think we should sign him and trade him to a team below us for a 4th-5th rounder!

datruth55
11-01-2010, 05:40 PM
1 Buffalo Bills-no
2 Dallas Cowboys- no, why pay someone 3.6 mill when ur done and dont have him guarenteed for next year
3 Carolina Panthers- no way
4 San Francisco 49ers- no way
5 Denver Broncos- done
6 Minnesota Vikings- lol
7 Detroit Lions- possible, but they got something good going their in detroit, offense seems just fine, but then again wat team cant use a moss
8 Cleveland Browns- no
9 Cincinnati Bengals- already have 2 wr who r character guys, not neccisarly in a bad way, but still character guys. no way.
10 San Diego Chargers- possibly, but spanos is very cheap, also getting jackson back in a few weeks. offense doing just fine
11 Arizona Cardinals-no
12 Washington Redskins- already have enough distractions with mcnabb and shannahan, but with Dan Snyder u never know.
13 St. Louis Rams- wouldnt be a bad fit, but i dont know if stl will want to hamper bradfords development potentially with bringing in a guy like moss, when he seems to be doing fine without any divas
14 Oakland Raiders- been there done that= fail
15 Jacksonville Jaguars- wayne weaver wont spend the money on moss. wouldnt be a bad fit though because they r 4-4 quietly, and will put people in the seats
16 Seattle Seahawks- possible
17 Philadelphia Eagles- highly doubt, tried with owens already and although they made a superbowl, they obviously didn't love the experience
18 Miami Dolphins- would make sense since our offense has been so lame, and can add a major spark. also, a contending team, and another chance to get back at revis , who calls moss a ''slouch''.
19 Chicago Bears
20 Tennessee Titans
21 New Orleans Saints
22 Green Bay Packers
23 Indianapolis Colts
24 Houston Texans
25 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
26 Pittsburgh Steelers
27 New York Jets
28 New York Giants
29 Kansas City Chiefs
30 Baltimore Ravens
31 Atlanta Falcons
32 New England Patriots

He's not going to Detroit. They have one of the best WRs in the league...and nobody talks about him...I think they like it that way

Denver would be a definite maybe. Josh McDaniels coached this guy, if he passes that should only raise more red flags.

I would hate to see him go to St. Louis. He could ruin a perfectly good QB who's developing nicely with limited weapons outside of S. Jackson.

My guess is he ends up with Seattle. One of their receivers got injured and then Mike Williams went down the past weekend. Carroll thinks he can work with any personality and get the most out of them...Randy Moss will be another reclaimation project for him.

etsudolfan
11-01-2010, 05:40 PM
he also probably wants to win or at least compete...I don't think he has a good chance of competing for anything in Denver. JMO

phishxhead
11-01-2010, 05:40 PM
St. Louis and Seattle are the only teams that worry me that will put in a claim....


No team is going to claim him unless they are sure that he wants to be there.

massi20
11-01-2010, 05:42 PM
It would do wonders for Miami on Madden. Just kidding

Phins Rock
11-01-2010, 05:43 PM
The team that acquires Moss does not pay any of his salary. The Vikings have already taken care of the last 1.5 mil on his contract.

KingNick88
11-01-2010, 05:45 PM
Very iffy on this... But, when I think about Marshall, Moss, and Bess, I can't help but get excited.

hooshoops
11-01-2010, 05:45 PM
even if he didn't catch a pass he'd definitely open some things up for bess and primarily marshall...it would make that void we have at te not as large i can tell you that...its not my money...i just want to win so whatever...a rest of the season rental...but don't give this guy some massive extension...hells no

FinAtic8480
11-01-2010, 05:45 PM
The Jets will be motivated by a desire to keep Moss from returning to the Patriots, and by an interest in sticking it to the Pats by winning with one of their castoffs (see Danny Woodhead).

Also, Moss may be better than Braylon Edwards or Santonio Holmes. Neither has done all that much this year, and both made relatively small contributions on Sunday against the Packers.

Then there's the Rex Ryan-Mike Tannenbaum willingness to bring in big-name players whom others have doubted and to use that external doubt to light a fire under their *****. Guys like Antontio Cromartie and LaDainian Tomlinson were believed to be washed up elsewhere; they're now key contributors in New York.

Of course, the possibility that the Jets would claim Moss could make the Dolphins (one of Rosenthal's projected destinations) even more likely to make a claim for Moss, since it would keep him from both of their AFC East rivals. It also would reunite him with former Marshall quarterback Chad Pennington, perhaps a guy who can keep Moss from becoming a problem.

www.profootballtalk.com

datruth55
11-01-2010, 05:45 PM
he also probably wants to win or at least compete...I don't think he has a good chance of competing for anything in Denver. JMO

If he gets claimed he has no choice...other than to pout and whine like he did in Minnesota.

datruth55
11-01-2010, 05:46 PM
Would love to see Moss get picked up by the Jets. Braylon and Moss together? Cat fight in the locker room, lol.

massi20
11-01-2010, 05:47 PM
Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who would you rather have as a deep threat, hartline???

IronChef
11-01-2010, 05:47 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/01/monday-waiver-wire-does-not-include-randy-moss/

Well, we wont know anything tomorrow. Maybe Wednesday..

datruth55
11-01-2010, 05:49 PM
I'll pass. Everywhere he's been people have always questioned his effort and motivation. Everyone here saying they want him will probably be the first to complain when they see Moss give up on a play and the ball get picked off....never mind, you guys will just blame Henne.

Cobra84
11-01-2010, 05:49 PM
You really can't wage war with wavers. Do you want him? Yes/No - ok he's yours/next team.

X-Pacolypse
11-01-2010, 05:50 PM
The Jets can "wage war" all they want. Bottom line, Miami has waver priority before the Jets. So, f*ck em.

unclemonty
11-01-2010, 05:50 PM
The team that acquires Moss does not pay any of his salary. The Vikings have already taken care of the last 1.5 mil on his contract.

100% not true.
A team claiming a waived player is also claiming his contract (pro-rated for current season). If a waived player is not claimed, he is a free agent.

finnns2000
11-01-2010, 05:51 PM
www.twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

I just don't see it. Too many crappy under .500 teams who need help at WR.

hooshoops
11-01-2010, 05:52 PM
reports that moss work ethic in minnesota sucked...i'm not surprised...til someone opens up their wallet and gives him a massive extension he's gonna go half *** imo...

also reports that he was becoming a cancer in the lockerroom...

emeraldfin
11-01-2010, 05:53 PM
How awesome would it be to have Marshall on one side and Moss on the other.

Cobra
11-01-2010, 05:53 PM
We don't need a WR who only plays when he wants to, doesn't do the "team" any good.

However if the Phins want to sign him and then deactivate him so the Pats can't have him back for free I would support that cause.

SebasMiamiFan
11-01-2010, 05:54 PM
The Jets can "wage war" all they want. Bottom line, Miami has waver priority before the Jets. So, f*ck em.

And the Pats I believe.

Ilovemyfins4eva
11-01-2010, 05:55 PM
We don't need a WR who only plays when he wants to, doesn't do the "team" any good.

However if the Phins want to sign him and then deactivate him so the Pats can't have him back for free I would support that cause.
remind my we would sign someone on our team so we can deactivate him? we would still need to pay him if we deactivated him, and he is so talented, that would be a waste.

BlueFin
11-01-2010, 05:58 PM
Absolutely Pennington could play a part in this, Moss will make very clear to the teams he has no interest in not to waste their time. Pennington being a Dolphin and Miami chances of winning coupled with South Florida's desirable location could make it happen.......but we will see............................................

Show Me Your TDs
11-01-2010, 06:00 PM
Please remind me why Moss has to go through waivers even though he is a vested player past four years of experience? Sorry if this has already been asked?

67Stang
11-01-2010, 06:01 PM
Absolutely Pennington could play a part in this, Moss will make very clear to the teams he has no interest in not to waste their time. Pennington being a Dolphin and Miami chances of winning coupled with South Florida's desirable location could make it happen.......but we will see............................................
Why would a 2nd string QB who won't see the field be a factor in Moss coming to Miami?

SebasMiamiFan
11-01-2010, 06:01 PM
I wonder what it would take to get henning out of here. hmmmm

Me and the 2nd amendment.

SkapePhin
11-01-2010, 06:01 PM
Absolutely Pennington could play a part in this, Moss will make very clear to the teams he has no interest in not to waste their time. Pennington being a Dolphin and Miami chances of winning coupled with South Florida's desirable location could make it happen.......but we will see............................................

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Moss have a home in Boca?

NyPhan23
11-01-2010, 06:02 PM
i feel like marshall may raise issues if we brought moss in... he wants to be THE guy, might as well keep the status quo... although if they could make everyone happy and somehow moss slipped to miami, i suppose i wouldn't mind

Dan2Duper
11-01-2010, 06:03 PM
Yeah but all the negatives mentioned in the article come with no risk other than money. If he can't be a team player then bye bye you lose nothing but money. Maybe being cut is the slap in the face he needed. Could he look at the rest of this season as an audition to get one last contract? I say let the Dolphins be his stage. Even as a half year rental he brings a lot of upside to the table. Worst case scenario he dogs it. I would still consider him useful as a decoy, the opposing defense will still have to account for him. Hell the guy had 13 td's in'09 and has 5 already this season.

SkapePhin
11-01-2010, 06:03 PM
Ya, he does.. Randy has a house in Boca...

http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/randy-moss-house-1/view/?service=2

Daytona Fin
11-01-2010, 06:04 PM
if woodhead was that big of a catch for the jets then they wouldnt have let him go. even though the pats got him im sure the jets are happy for him.

i really doubt moss will make it to on the 3 teams mentioned. id be surprised if he makes it past the bills.

DisturbedShifty
11-01-2010, 06:04 PM
Why would he be drawing up plays for Moss??? You have to pull teeth to get that guy to call a passing play longer than 5 yards.

#1dolphinsfan
11-01-2010, 06:05 PM
I would love to have him Oppsite of Marshall it will make our whole offense even better

67Stang
11-01-2010, 06:05 PM
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Moss have a home in Boca?
Now, I could see this being a factor more than Pennington. I think he does, he use to train down their with that Cris Carter Speed Camp.

johngarry
11-01-2010, 06:05 PM
That man either needs to: Die, retire, or be fired. I hate that man.

but how do you really feel X??

Cobra
11-01-2010, 06:06 PM
remind my we would sign someone on our team so we can deactivate him? we would still need to pay him if we deactivated him, and he is so talented, that would be a waste.
Here is why: "The Dolphins would want Moss simply to avoid letting the Patriots get him."

Per: http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/25613061

Also he is a cancer to any team he is on (that's not in Boston). And who cares about talent when he lollygags on the field the whole game. Yeah we'll pay him his contract to ride the pine and piss Belichick off. I wouldn't say its without purpose.

SkapePhin
11-01-2010, 06:06 PM
This is an older article, but I assume he still owns the house:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1111242/index.htm

I remember him saying how much he liked the quiet community of Boca Raton...

Could this fact help him behave on the Dolphins?

Phin-O-mania
11-01-2010, 06:07 PM
I have a condo in Seattle.

icelatte39
11-01-2010, 06:08 PM
Bring him in and fire Henning. There's nothing to lose.

Except for the locker room imploding.

#1dolphinsfan
11-01-2010, 06:08 PM
i would love to have him in a fins uniform him and marshall on the field at the same time would be scary

SebasMiamiFan
11-01-2010, 06:09 PM
:ffic:

miamirw
11-01-2010, 06:11 PM
He will take the double teams off of Marshall. For that reason alone I claim him and play him the rest of the season. Let him become a free agent and we'll find another burner next off season.

oasis
11-01-2010, 06:11 PM
Most athletes have South Florida real estate. Tax benefits and what not...

SebasMiamiFan
11-01-2010, 06:11 PM
of course!!!!!

endorPHINS72
11-01-2010, 06:12 PM
That man either needs to: Die, retire, or be fired. I hate that man.

That's a bit much.

unclemonty
11-01-2010, 06:13 PM
Please remind me why Moss has to go through waivers even though he is a vested player past four years of experience? Sorry if this has already been asked?

After the trade deadline you must pass through waivers to become a free-agent.

finnns2000
11-01-2010, 06:13 PM
People, too many teams like the Rams, Seahawks, etc. that have priority over us. Zero chance Moss comes here.

shanem40
11-01-2010, 06:14 PM
Yea moss lives down here in the off season i have met him a couple times cool dude. But it's nothing major tons of athletes live down here.

endorPHINS72
11-01-2010, 06:14 PM
Me and the 2nd amendment.


I don't think killing over-the-hill offensive coordinators is what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they drafted that.

SebasMiamiFan
11-01-2010, 06:15 PM
I'm sure he wants to be a on a playoff team. Pitching to him a team up with Marshall and good young QB may be too good to pass up.

rrrrphin
11-01-2010, 06:16 PM
it's not my money.... if he gets to the dolphins, take him and have him do his best Patrick Turner non active roster impersonation

FORMER FIN1
11-01-2010, 06:18 PM
:bs:
Yea moss lives down here in the off season i have met him a couple times cool dude. But it's nothing major tons of athletes live down here.

Where?

13mademeafan
11-01-2010, 06:18 PM
I just heard Mia and Seattle have put a waiver claim in for him, but I am hearing we have the better position.

Disregard, bad info I received since he has not been officially waived.

Cobra
11-01-2010, 06:20 PM
I just heard Mia and Seattle have put a waiver claim in for him, but I am hearing we have the better position.
We don't. ESPN says waiver order includes Rams (13), Raiders (14), Redskins (15), Seahawks (16), Bears (17) before Dolphins (18).

SebasMiamiFan
11-01-2010, 06:20 PM
I don't think killing over-the-hill offensive coordinators is what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they drafted that.

Considering the fact that he was around then, I think they did.

-=DolfanDave=-
11-01-2010, 06:20 PM
Yes, I would definitely want Randy Moss on my team.

A) It would open the field for Marshall/Bess and would perhaps add a pass play or two to Hennings game plan (if he even has one)
B) He wouldn't be a Jet
C) see A and B

MrEd
11-01-2010, 06:29 PM
But by the sounds of Lombardi....Moss could clear waivers and become a FA so that he could make more money....maybe he tells every club NO and clear waivers then say, Ok...come get me...just saying

CalDolFan1014
11-01-2010, 06:37 PM
Marshall, Bess, AND Moss! Hartline and Fasano will get more looks too! Try double teaming all THOSE guys! Then it'll open up running room for Ricky and Ronnie! DO EEEEEEEEEEEEET Ireland! We become a top 5 offense INSTANTLY....especially if the rumors are true that Henning is no longer calling plays. If none of the teams above us claim him, this is a no-brainer, IMO.

IronChef
11-01-2010, 06:40 PM
I dont see how it could hurt us.. A legit vertical threat would be sweet. Marshall would go crazy underneath..

Tureo
11-01-2010, 06:43 PM
Everywhere he goes the media questions him as a teammate and team player. Not so much his teammates. His production in new england was a fluke. In his last gm he got little to no attempts. The very next gm Branch comes in and gets tons of passes thrown his way. Branch isn't better than Moss is he? Despite that I don't think he would do well here. We already have a OC and at times a QB that can't get the ball to the guys we have

Kdawg954
11-01-2010, 06:44 PM
But by the sounds of Lombardi....Moss could clear waivers and become a FA so that he could make more money....maybe he tells every club NO and clear waivers then say, Ok...come get me...just saying

Would be a factor IFFF this was NOT the last year of his contract, and he has a no franchise tag clause in his contract.

I think he almost has to earn the right to get another 10 million dollar pay day (probably won't get that again unless he is truly amazing) by playing out the rest of this contract THIS season.

Nobody is going to give him a big payday until he comes in and tries.

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People, too many teams like the Rams, Seahawks, etc. that have priority over us. Zero chance Moss comes here.

He doesn't have to report to any team that claims him, and I'm sure teams would have prior talks before taking that jump.

If nobody claims him, he becomes a FA and can pick and choose.

IronChef
11-01-2010, 06:44 PM
I dont see him clearing waivers..

IronChef
11-01-2010, 06:46 PM
Those tax benefits must be sweet!

Kdawg954
11-01-2010, 06:46 PM
If the Dolphins are doing this solely because of the Patriots/Jets . . . I have seen this story before. Didn't we draft Pat White early because we wanted to keep him from the Patriots. **** the Patriots, if you think Randy Moss will benefit this team (which IMO is a no brainer that he would), you put in a claim and you take a chance on the guy, not to keep him away from a division rival.

FINFAN15
11-01-2010, 06:46 PM
I seen him a couple of times at Golds gym in Boca he was a pretty nice guy the few times I spoke to him.So I assume he still lives down here pretty quite and not the Diva type at all

Kdawg954
11-01-2010, 06:49 PM
Boca is a prime location for South Florida athletes. Easy commute from Glades Road and the Turnpike to any of the sporting facilities, and nice community. Hell if he needs a driver to the games, I am free on Sunday's.