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Phinfan
11-11-2010, 09:05 AM
I am never surprised by the amount of b*&ching that goes on.

Sparano sucks
Henne sucks
FO is dumb for benching Henne
Henning sucks
and on and on and on.

Stick with your team already. People on here expect players to be perfect. I actually saw people complaining about Vontae... are you serious? He has been great this year, granted he missed some tackles last week and have a rough game but ask yourself are you perfect everyday?? Didnt think so. The FO knows better then all of us so trust their decisions. I agree that Henning has been bad this year, no doubt, but it absolutely doesnt make sense to get rid of your offensive scheme in the middle of the season. I am sure Henning will be done after this year.

So please have some positive threads, get to the stadium on Sunday and be a 12th man for once!!

Rant over!

FINFAN15
11-11-2010, 09:09 AM
Welcome to Negative Heaven! or Pessimistic Heaven if you prefer!

Phantom
11-11-2010, 10:44 AM
Or homerheaven for people like you. People like you are like the blind band in animal house, being led down a dead end, and just keep playing the same toon. Who here has said they will stop rooting for the dolphins? We just don't sit here on our complacent rear ends and eat the crap that is shoveled to us by this FO and coaching staff. Oh, and Thanks for being a real fan, what would we do without you?

Phinfan
11-11-2010, 11:30 AM
Homer?? Not exactly I just disagree on the Front Office's ability. Do you honestly think this FO has done a bad job???

If you look at the hit rates on the draft I bet our drafts have turned out above average.

Long - excellent LT maybe the best in football
Davis - looking like a great corner
Henne - who knows at this point. I have seen glimpses but I believe Henning is an issue.
Langford - solid DE, plays every down
Clemons - looking like a solid FS
Hartline - decent 3 with more upside
Smith - inconsistent but has a lot of upside.
Bess - great pickup, the best slot receiver in football
Wake - do I need to say anything here

So lets go out this weekend and beat the Titans a%$

FINFAN15
11-11-2010, 02:03 PM
Homer?? Not exactly I just disagree on the Front Office's ability. Do you honestly think this FO has done a bad job???

If you look at the hit rates on the draft I bet our drafts have turned out above average.

Long - excellent LT maybe the best in football
Davis - looking like a great corner
Henne - who knows at this point. I have seen glimpses but I believe Henning is an issue.
Langford - solid DE, plays every down
Clemons - looking like a solid FS
Hartline - decent 3 with more upside
Smith - inconsistent but has a lot of upside.
Bess - great pickup, the best slot receiver in football
Wake - do I need to say anything here

So lets go out this weekend and beat the Titans a%$

Ok lets Flip this now

2010 Draft

Jared Odrick Injury Prone

Now for the wonderful free agent singings
This Year
Montavious Stanley
Marques Douglas
Charles Grant
Bobby Carpenter
Cliff Smith
Jeron Mastrud

2009 free agents
Gibril Wilson
Jake Grove

2008 Sigings
Justin Smiley
Akin Ayodele
Anthony Fasano
Reggie Torbor
Ernest Wilford
Sean Ryan
Josh Mc Cown





2009 draft

Pat White-BUST 2nd round-Out of Football
Patrick Turner 3rd Bust Out of Football
John Nalbone 5th Bust Out of football

2008 Nfl Draft
Shawn Murphy 4th Round Bust
Jalen Parmemle 6th Round Bust
Donal Thomas 6th round Bust

X-Pacolypse
11-11-2010, 02:05 PM
I am never surprised by the amount of b*&ching that goes on.

Sparano sucks
Henne sucks
FO is dumb for benching Henne
Henning sucks
and on and on and on.

Stick with your team already. People on here expect players to be perfect. I actually saw people complaining about Vontae... are you serious? He has been great this year, granted he missed some tackles last week and have a rough game but ask yourself are you perfect everyday?? Didnt think so. The FO knows better then all of us so trust their decisions. I agree that Henning has been bad this year, no doubt, but it absolutely doesnt make sense to get rid of your offensive scheme in the middle of the season. I am sure Henning will be done after this year.

So please have some positive threads, get to the stadium on Sunday and be a 12th man for once!!

Rant over!

No.

Vaark
11-11-2010, 02:09 PM
Positive threads suck. I've been waiting a long time to go negative, and as all the chronic Negative Nellies probably are aware, it's actually been cathartic now that I have a reason!

SabanHater
11-11-2010, 02:09 PM
more misses than hits in the draft. and don't even get me started on FA. They have been absolutely horrible.

Phinfan
11-11-2010, 02:18 PM
The FA signings you listed are all minimum wage guys with the exception of Grove and Wilson. At the time every person on this board thought both were good signings. Grove was very good last year until he got hurt. Hes not even playing anymore. So lets look at all the minimum wage other teams sign, I guess their FO is crap too. Jets signed Patrick Turner, those idiots!!!

Your labeling of bust is absolutely comical. I agree that Turner and White were busts but you have guys drafted in the 4-6 rounds as bust. Oh yes I forget good FO's hit on every draft pick.

Bottom line is this team has improved in every position since this regime came in, if you dont see that your blind.

As far as the 2010 draft
2010
Odrick - he got hurt, future undetermined. Injury prone is a little strong at this point in his career.
Misi - looks like a gamer.
Jerry - starting RG
Edds - unknown
Carroll and Jones have shown some promise.

Phinfan
11-11-2010, 02:41 PM
more misses than hits in the draft. and don't even get me started on FA. They have been absolutely horrible.

Ok lets review another teams draft. I picked the Patriots since most people respect their coach and FO. I only reviewed rounds 1-5

2010
1st Round (27th Overall) – Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers - starting but has been burned more times than toast
2nd Round (42nd Overall) – Rob Gronkowski, TE, Arizona - showing some promise
2nd Round (53rd Overall) – Jermaine Cunningham, OLB, Florida - backup, hasnt done anything yet
2nd Round (62nd Overall) – Brandon Spikes, LB, Florida - starting, looks like a good LB
3rd Round (90th Overall) – Taylor Price, WR, Ohio - buried on the depth chart
4th Round (113th Overall) – Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida - showing a lot of promise
5th Round (150th Overall) – Zoltan Mesko, P, Michigan - current punter

2009
Patrick Chung - starter, has been ok
Ron Brace - backup not really playing
Darius Butler - backup, benched for getting burned so often
Vollmer - starting RT, been pretty good
Tate - starting WR, average at this time, some upside
All other picks are third string or no longer on the team

2008
Mayo - solid LB, good pick
Wheatley - gone
Crable - third string LB
No other picks on the team


Hmmm looks like our drafts arent too bad.

FinKage34
11-11-2010, 02:57 PM
See ya at the game Sunday! Penny jersey on...Let's turn this around! Fins UP!

FINFAN15
11-11-2010, 03:03 PM
Ok so Smiley was not a high Priced guy. Wilford was not a high priced guy.I will take the Patriot drafts over are drafts everyday.Also the Patriots know how to stock pile picks as opposed to our front office over the years that have given picks away.Sorry Bro but you cant sit there and tell me you have confidence in this regime drafting and picking free agents

massi20
11-11-2010, 03:05 PM
I will be there on Sunday. Lower corner of the endzone, 3 rows off the field. I'll have my Marshall jersey and my wife her Ronnie Brown. First game in 4 years, lets go Fins!!!1

Phinfan
11-11-2010, 03:09 PM
Ok so Smiley was not a high Priced guy. Wilford was not a high priced guy.I will take the Patriot drafts over are drafts everyday.Also the Patriots know how to stock pile picks as opposed to our front office over the years that have given picks away.Sorry Bro but you cant sit there and tell me you have confidence in this regime drafting and picking free agents

Agreed on the stock piling picks but looking at those drafts if you would take NE's picks over Miami's your insane. Every FO is going to have misses in the draft and FA. What about Dansby, Starks, the trade for Marshall, Bess, Wake. Man Wake and Bess are going to be all-pros in this league. To say that the FO isnt brining in people is just wrong.

In my opinion we need changes to the coaching staff particularly Henning and not the FO. We need some creativity on offense.

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Hell yeah people... Lets go fins.

Tunaphish429
11-11-2010, 03:19 PM
The funny thing about being pessmistic is that we as fans can do nothing about it..

You may think it does something but it does not..

Being postive does nothing either but at least it keeps you positive about other things..

There is nothing wrong with critiquiting a player or a coach. But you can always do it in a positive way.

The fans that are pessmistic are just afriad of being let down.

Jeep
11-11-2010, 03:24 PM
When Coach Morono and the FO start making some smart decisions and prove to not only us fans, but the rest of the NFL world, then I will start believing in them and have more of that blind faith your asking for.. In the meantime, these quacks are making one dumb mistake after another..

Phinfan
11-11-2010, 03:27 PM
The funny thing about being pessmistic is that we as fans can do nothing about it..

You may think it does something but it does not..

Being postive does nothing either but at least it keeps you positive about other things..

There is nothing wrong with critiquiting a player or a coach. But you can always do it in a positive way.

The fans that are pessmistic are just afriad of being let down.

Totally agree. I am glad people voice their opinions both positive and negative but this board is 90% negative. I live in NY and when Sanchez was sucking *** people werent ripping him. In Miami, Henne is torn apart despite the upside he has shown with poor playcalling.

dolpns13
11-11-2010, 03:39 PM
The FA signings you listed are all minimum wage guys with the exception of Grove and Wilson. At the time every person on this board thought both were good signings. Grove was very good last year until he got hurt. Hes not even playing anymore. So lets look at all the minimum wage other teams sign, I guess their FO is crap too. Jets signed Patrick Turner, those idiots!!!

Your labeling of bust is absolutely comical. I agree that Turner and White were busts but you have guys drafted in the 4-6 rounds as bust. Oh yes I forget good FO's hit on every draft pick.

Bottom line is this team has improved in every position since this regime came in, if you dont see that your blind.

As far as the 2010 draft
2010
Odrick - he got hurt, future undetermined. Injury prone is a little strong at this point in his career.
Misi - looks like a gamer.
Jerry - starting RG
Edds - unknown
Carroll and Jones have shown some promise.

Who cares what they were making. the point is they #1, took up a roster spot, and #2, shows an inability in the coaching staff to evaluate talent! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PhinsPhan11
11-11-2010, 03:46 PM
more misses than hits in the draft. and don't even get me started on FA. They have been absolutely horrible.
So many of the free agents have been underachievers.

Phinfan
11-11-2010, 04:22 PM
Who cares what they were making. the point is they #1, took up a roster spot, and #2, shows an inability in the coaching staff to evaluate talent! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My point is a lot of times they sign a low wage guy to evaluate their talent. If it doesnt work out or they find someone better they cut them.

Phantom
11-11-2010, 04:45 PM
The funny thing about being pessmistic is that we as fans can do nothing about it..

You may think it does something but it does not..

Being postive does nothing either but at least it keeps you positive about other things..

There is nothing wrong with critiquiting a player or a coach. But you can always do it in a positive way.

The fans that are pessmistic are just afriad of being let down.I am absolutly positive that this coaching staff and front office stinks! Hows that, more positive for you?

johngarry
11-11-2010, 04:52 PM
Ok lets Flip this now

2010 Draft

Jared Odrick Injury Prone

Now for the wonderful free agent singings
This Year
Montavious Stanley
Marques Douglas
Charles Grant
Bobby Carpenter
Cliff Smith
Jeron Mastrud

2009 free agents
Gibril Wilson
Jake Grove

2008 Sigings
Justin Smiley
Akin Ayodele
Anthony Fasano
Reggie Torbor
Ernest Wilford
Sean Ryan
Josh Mc Cown





2009 draft

Pat White-BUST 2nd round-Out of Football
Patrick Turner 3rd Bust Out of Football
John Nalbone 5th Bust Out of football

2008 Nfl Draft
Shawn Murphy 4th Round Bust
Jalen Parmemle 6th Round Bust
Donal Thomas 6th round Bust

if not mistaken, Jalen Parmalee has been 'bust-ing' with the B'more Ravens. plucked from our P-squad.

Lorenzo Rules
11-11-2010, 05:01 PM
more misses than hits in the draft. and don't even get me started on FA. They have been absolutely horrible.

Exactly I dont think Henne sucks because how can we judge him when we have the village idiot calling plays that make Wannys plays look like Mike Martz. what i hate is how we cant score more then 14 freakin points on offense we scored 27 to 34 under Wanny and we scored 24 to 34 points under saban . Am I way wrong on this ?

Phinfan
11-11-2010, 06:00 PM
Exactly I dont think Henne sucks because how can we judge him when we have the village idiot calling plays that make Wannys plays look like Mike Martz. what i hate is how we cant score more then 14 freakin points on offense we scored 27 to 34 under Wanny and we scored 24 to 34 points under saban . Am I way wrong on this ?

Not at all. The offense has been blowing.

jmcconnell5
11-11-2010, 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by FINFAN15
Ok lets Flip this now

2010 Draft

Jared Odrick Injury Prone

Now for the wonderful free agent singings
This Year
Montavious Stanley
Marques Douglas
Charles Grant
Bobby Carpenter
Cliff Smith
Jeron Mastrud

2009 free agents
Gibril Wilson
Jake Grove

2008 Sigings
Justin Smiley
Akin Ayodele
Anthony Fasano
Reggie Torbor
Ernest Wilford
Sean Ryan
Josh Mc Cown





2009 draft

Pat White-BUST 2nd round-Out of Football
Patrick Turner 3rd Bust Out of Football
John Nalbone 5th Bust Out of football

2008 Nfl Draft
Shawn Murphy 4th Round Bust
Jalen Parmemle 6th Round Bust
Donal Thomas 6th round Bust


Hey buddy. You kind of forgot to include Dansby and Marshall in the 2010 Free Agent signings.

Phinfan
11-11-2010, 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by FINFAN15
Ok lets Flip this now

2010 Draft

Jared Odrick Injury Prone

Now for the wonderful free agent singings
This Year
Montavious Stanley
Marques Douglas
Charles Grant
Bobby Carpenter
Cliff Smith
Jeron Mastrud

2009 free agents
Gibril Wilson
Jake Grove

2008 Sigings
Justin Smiley
Akin Ayodele
Anthony Fasano
Reggie Torbor
Ernest Wilford
Sean Ryan
Josh Mc Cown





2009 draft

Pat White-BUST 2nd round-Out of Football
Patrick Turner 3rd Bust Out of Football
John Nalbone 5th Bust Out of football

2008 Nfl Draft
Shawn Murphy 4th Round Bust
Jalen Parmemle 6th Round Bust
Donal Thomas 6th round Bust


Hey buddy. You kind of forgot to include Dansby and Marshall in the 2010 Free Agent signings.

Other FA signings that were forgotten:
And Wake, Bess, Polite, Starks and on and on.

chopper13
11-11-2010, 06:39 PM
You have to realize that most of the people that utilize this board are juveniles and do not know what it is to be a true Dolphin fan. I have seen every Dolphin game since they became a team and have seen so-called fans like this come and go.

Finnick2
11-11-2010, 07:06 PM
Wow, I get that some of the posts on here are negative but since when did being critical equal not being a fan? Or that just because we are critical of this decision that we won't be there Sunday invested as always? The two are unrelated. How don't people get that? Just as you are amazed at the negativity, I am shocked at the blind loyalty to a FO that "knows more than we do." Of course they do but that doesn't mean that we can't think some of their decisions are bad. And in this case, what they "know" that we supposedly don't is that their jobs are on the line and if they want to save them they have to win now. Don't you think they knew from the start of this year that we would win more games this year with CP? We all knew that. I don't think it took them 8 games to figure it out. We were being fed apparent BS that it is about a long term SB plan and the QB is coming along as planned. I just watched that go out the window and have to look forward to another few years searching for a QB and mediocrity at best, so yes I'm allowed to be negative right now. All this players you listed that are talented don't amount to jack if we can't find a QB. That's why we are all so frustrated.

67Stang
11-11-2010, 07:13 PM
Dude, we are fans of the team. If something in our opinion (which every fan is entitled to) is preventing this team from succeeding or setting the team back, we aren't going to say golly gee whiz, ah that's ok, they are swell guys. Since they are swell guys I don't want to hurt their feelings, so I will just sit back and provide support, because gosh darnit that is what a stand up fan does. GTF out of here!

Ricky_Fan34
11-11-2010, 07:15 PM
Perhaps because we've been irrelevant for almost a decade. The season is basically a lost cause, barring an 8 game winstreak to finish it. Our supposed QB of the future has been benched for someone who has 2, maybe 3 years left in football, and our offense cannot score more than 2 TDs a game. There's really not a whole lot to be positive about other than Cam Wake, Davone Bess, Brandon Marshall, Randy Starks, and Karlos Dansby. Vontae Davis is good, but let's see him do it consistantly before we deem him special...

DolphinGlory1
11-11-2010, 08:32 PM
Awesome post ! Great points too!

Ricky_Fan34
11-11-2010, 09:12 PM
You have to realize that most of the people that utilize this board are juveniles and do not know what it is to be a true Dolphin fan. I have seen every Dolphin game since they became a team and have seen so-called fans like this come and go.
So basically, when the generation of Dolphins fans that have seen every game since they became a team dies out, there will be no more true fans? If you're a fan, you're a fan. Just because you've watched x amount of games more than another person makes you no more or less of a fan.

DphinBillkiller
11-11-2010, 09:22 PM
Granted things haven't gone as well as everyone has hoped and expected.. Fans just want to win. But the glass is still always half empty to some fans even when Dolphins do win. There are worse teams in the leauge.

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Ricky_Fan34
11-11-2010, 09:32 PM
Granted things haven't gone as well as everyone has hoped and expected.. Fans just want to win. But the glass is still always half empty to some fans even when Dolphins do win. There are worse teams in the leauge.

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Problem is that we aren't supposed to be bad. We are supposed to be beating good teams now, and clearly, we aren't. It seems our future at QB has failed- at least this regime. Bring in a new OC and then let's see what we've got. Henne hasn't shown much recently, but I would like to see him with a halfway competent OC.

armyphin
11-11-2010, 09:56 PM
What? You mean this isn't the I hate the Miami Dolphins forum?

Phantom
11-11-2010, 10:10 PM
What? You mean this isn't the I hate the Miami Dolphins forum?

No this is the, I hate what these incompetent fools are doing to the Miami Dolphins forum !

FinsFan74
11-11-2010, 10:23 PM
To be honest with you i'm sure alot of people are tired of people like yourself starting threads calling out ALL Fins fans. And no everyone is not perfect every day but these guys are paid ridiculous amounts of money to be perfect for 16 days out of the year, not too much to ask
I am never surprised by the amount of b*&ching that goes on.

Sparano sucks
Henne sucks
FO is dumb for benching Henne
Henning sucks
and on and on and on.

Stick with your team already. People on here expect players to be perfect. I actually saw people complaining about Vontae... are you serious? He has been great this year, granted he missed some tackles last week and have a rough game but ask yourself are you perfect everyday?? Didnt think so. The FO knows better then all of us so trust their decisions. I agree that Henning has been bad this year, no doubt, but it absolutely doesnt make sense to get rid of your offensive scheme in the middle of the season. I am sure Henning will be done after this year.

So please have some positive threads, get to the stadium on Sunday and be a 12th man for once!!

Rant over!