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Etuoo33
12-28-2010, 01:00 PM
It seems like the rich just keep getting richer as the Pats just secured the 33rd pick in next years draft to go with the pick they received from the Raiders. and their own first rounder. It's going to be hard for any franchise to keep up with the Pats with moves like they always seem to make.
http://www.nesn.com/2010/12/patriots-secure-33rd-pick-have-three-of-first-33-picks-in-2011-draft.html

GRYPHONK
12-28-2010, 01:06 PM
Miami could take a huge step in that direction if they sacrifice this draft. Pretty much, trade out of the 1st to get a 1st in 2012. The Phins could set themselves up nicely in 2012 if they are willing to think long term. I don't like Miami's draft position and would prefer to stockpile for next years draft.

Kdawg954
12-28-2010, 01:12 PM
Miami could take a huge step in that direction if they sacrifice this draft. Pretty much, trade out of the 1st to get a 1st in 2012. The Phins could set themselves up nicely in 2012 if they are willing to think long term. I don't like Miami's draft position and would prefer to stockpile for next years draft.

Yea I hate the draft spot this year . . . . there is some elite talent in the top 10, but after that it's kind of blah and you are better off trading down, recouping a 2nd rounder or a 1st for 2012.

But alot depends on the regime come draft time, if its Sparano and Ireland, guarantee they will do what it takes to win next year and not look towards the future. I definitely could see alot of "playmaker" picks on offense this year.

ITS!MATEO
12-28-2010, 01:13 PM
Miami could take a huge step in that direction if they sacrifice this draft. Pretty much, trade out of the 1st to get a 1st in 2012. The Phins could set themselves up nicely in 2012 if they are willing to think long term. I don't like Miami's draft position and would prefer to stockpile for next years draft.

No, were the dolphins remember:rolleyes:

SecondhandJet
12-28-2010, 01:17 PM
Miami could take a huge step in that direction if they sacrifice this draft. Pretty much, trade out of the 1st to get a 1st in 2012. The Phins could set themselves up nicely in 2012 if they are willing to think long term. I don't like Miami's draft position and would prefer to stockpile for next years draft.

It'll be hard for you guys to trade out of your spot. Nothing really exciting outside the first 5 picks. You guys are better off moving up then moving out of the 1st.

The Pats can do what they do because BB is a genius. No team can duplicate their success because no coach can get scrubs and turn them into Pro Bowlers. Look at their defense... on paper it's awful but they're playing as good as any defense in the league. Look what he's done on the OL. Look at Woodhead and Dion Branch. He's simply the best coach to ever do it and, unfortunately, he's doing it against our teams.

Vaark
12-28-2010, 01:20 PM
I wouldn't put it past Belicheat to put together an offer Carolina couldn't refuse, draft Lock and have him sit under Brady for the next 3 years.

Kdawg954
12-28-2010, 01:23 PM
I wouldn't put it past Belicheat to put together an offer Carolina couldn't refuse, draft Lock and have him sit under Brady for the next 3 years.

Why do that when he can sucker a team like he suckered Oakland and probably get them to give up a first in another draft and get another future stud QB in 2012 (Barkley or Luck if he stays) . . . hell I think he is shocked Oakland did so well . . . he probably was banking on a top 5 pick.

SecondhandJet
12-28-2010, 01:23 PM
I wouldn't put it past Belicheat to put together an offer Carolina couldn't refuse, draft Lock and have him sit under Brady for the next 3 years.

Why would he do that? He found Brady on the scrap pile and turned a college back up into a Pro Bowler.

JBinSD
12-28-2010, 02:21 PM
Why would he do that? He found Brady on the scrap pile and turned a college back up into a Pro Bowler.

Turned him into a pro bowler? How about one of the best QBs of all time. Ugh I hate that. But that's what he is.

aesop
12-28-2010, 02:41 PM
Turned him into a pro bowler? How about one of the best QBs of all time. Ugh I hate that. But that's what he is.Cassell.

miamiron
12-28-2010, 02:44 PM
Turned him into a pro bowler? How about one of the best QBs of all time. Ugh I hate that. But that's what he is.

He is having a ridiculous season,
Brady hasn't thrown an interception in the past 10 games...34 touchdowns and 4 interceptions
THIS SEASON
INCREDIBLE

metalman32060
12-28-2010, 02:57 PM
I wouldn't put it past Belicheat to put together an offer Carolina couldn't refuse, draft Lock and have him sit under Brady for the next 3 years.

Then trade Brady for 2 firsts

kasaba13
12-28-2010, 03:30 PM
Belichek won through cheating. it sickens me when people continue to throw praise his way. He has just found a new way to cheat..that is just what he does. I would feel the same way of any coach for any team. He should have been banned from the league for what he did.

There is just no way that he is light years smarter than everyone else. It has never happened like that in any sport. I knew he would find a new way to cheat once he got caught. No coach just takes average talent (aside from Brady) and dominates the league. It is not possible unless you are doing something underhanded.

miamiron
12-28-2010, 03:39 PM
Belichek won through cheating. it sickens me when people continue to throw praise his way. He has just found a new way to cheat..that is just what he does. I would feel the same way of any coach for any team. He should have been banned from the league for what he did.



There is just no way that he is light years smarter than everyone else. It has never happened like that in any sport. I knew he would find a new way to cheat once he got caught. No coach just takes average talent (aside from Brady) and dominates the league. It is not possible unless you are doing something underhanded.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiZdY9rw-uo

syborg
12-28-2010, 04:06 PM
Miami could take a huge step in that direction if they sacrifice this draft. Pretty much, trade out of the 1st to get a 1st in 2012. The Phins could set themselves up nicely in 2012 if they are willing to think long term. I don't like Miami's draft position and would prefer to stockpile for next years draft.

where is our position this draft??

Mogwai
12-28-2010, 04:52 PM
Brilliant. Just brilliant management of a team. It's hard to hate them when they're so damn competent. They completely rebuilt their team without missing a beat.

kasaba13
12-28-2010, 04:53 PM
Food for thought...

http://www.xtrapointfootball.com/20101216868/2010-archives/december/nfl-rage-are-the-new-england-patriots-cheating-again.html

Bagga-Viagra
12-28-2010, 05:01 PM
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Tailgater
12-28-2010, 05:22 PM
Belichek won through cheating. it sickens me when people continue to throw praise his way. He has just found a new way to cheat..that is just what he does. I would feel the same way of any coach for any team. He should have been banned from the league for what he did.

There is just no way that he is light years smarter than everyone else. It has never happened like that in any sport. I knew he would find a new way to cheat once he got caught. No coach just takes average talent (aside from Brady) and dominates the league. It is not possible unless you are doing something underhanded.

It's happened at least twice in the NFL with Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh. Guess they cheated too?

Pats pay big money to the fewest amount of their 53 man squad than any other team. This allows them to pay more for the bottom 25 on the roster, most of whom are better than other teams bottom 25. All of them know they could be starting at any point and prepare that way.

No team preps like the Pats, going over situational plays every week. No other team game plans both offensively or defensively specifically for their next opponent like the Pats do. It's a major part of their success.

Belicheck has been working to create the current offense for at least 10yrs. How many times did the Pats get ridiculed for drafting yet another tight end? This year, he finally hit the jackpot with Gronkowski and Hernandez, along with picking up Crumpler. Add in Welker, Branch, trade Moss, and give Brady the reins, he now has the offense he specifically designed to beat any style defense on any given day.

In the 2011 draft, he'll rebuild the OL & DL. Now, if he could only get a new Willie McGinest....!

bigvince75
12-28-2010, 10:48 PM
I'm giddy about the upcoming draft. The past 2 classes have been great for the team, and with the ammo they have for 2011 I can't wait to see what they do.

Etuoo33
12-29-2010, 01:19 PM
Food for thought...

http://www.xtrapointfootball.com/20101216868/2010-archives/december/nfl-rage-are-the-new-england-patriots-cheating-again.html

Makes a lot of sense to me. No wonder Bellecheat is a genius!. Thankfully not every human being is the type that would sell their soul for wins...unlike some of our northern brethren.

kasaba13
12-29-2010, 06:09 PM
Apparently, you struggled reading what I was saying. I was saying that no coach was light years ahead of all other coaches. Both Lombardi and Walsh were great coaches (as well as Shula, Noll, etc) but they also had phenomenal talent which skewed the playing field. Belicheat does not have great talent outside of Brady and a few others. It is quite simple, he cheated because he needed the advantage. If not, he would not have done it. You know it but as a Pats fan you will never admit it because it will taint everything. Let me ask you this...Goodell is a very calculated man in every aspect of his job. He burned the evidence for what reason? Enough said.

Dirtywater
12-29-2010, 07:03 PM
Apparently, you struggled reading what I was saying. I was saying that no coach was light years ahead of all other coaches. Both Lombardi and Walsh were great coaches (as well as Shula, Noll, etc) but they also had phenomenal talent which skewed the playing field. Belicheat does not have great talent outside of Brady and a few others. It is quite simple, he cheated because he needed the advantage. If not, he would not have done it. You know it but as a Pats fan you will never admit it because it will taint everything. Let me ask you this...Goodell is a very calculated man in every aspect of his job. He burned the evidence for what reason? Enough said.

The Patriots and Belichick did break the rules and were rightfully fined and made to forfeit their first round draft choice.

They had to do that because they were caught taping the opposing team's defensive signals from the field level, on their own sideline. Had they done that from the endzone instead of the sideline, there would have been no issue.

Newsflash, the Patriots, as well as other teams, still are taping, just from the allowed viewpoint, the endzone or above coaches box level. Your assessment that Belichick was only good due to the fact that he successfully taped from his sideline prior to the Jets game in '07 becomes a bit funny when you actually think about it. How has he continued, including a 16 game winning streak the same season the sideline taping was put to a halt, to win? Easy, because it's a mixture of good players and good coaching. I am sure whatever Belichick gets from his videotapes he uses to this day since a lot of teams still tape from the allowed areas, they gain something as well.

Location, location, location. Pisses me off that we lost all that, but we did break that rule. Got to own up and live with it.

Patriots-Lifer
12-30-2010, 03:46 PM
Belichek won through cheating. it sickens me when people continue to throw praise his way. He has just found a new way to cheat..that is just what he does. I would feel the same way of any coach for any team. He should have been banned from the league for what he did.

There is just no way that he is light years smarter than everyone else. It has never happened like that in any sport. I knew he would find a new way to cheat once he got caught. No coach just takes average talent (aside from Brady) and dominates the league. It is not possible unless you are doing something underhanded.

Oh please get over it already. Most teams were doing the same thing and a number of HOF coaches admited it. Please your just passing out sour grapes. The Patriots are not cheating and never got fined for cheating. The only thing they were guilty of was videoing other coaches. The NFL made it very clear that no advantige was obtained during any game from it.
Please move on or get some help.

kasaba13
12-31-2010, 12:02 PM
The Patriots and Belichick did break the rules and were rightfully fined and made to forfeit their first round draft choice.

They had to do that because they were caught taping the opposing team's defensive signals from the field level, on their own sideline. Had they done that from the endzone instead of the sideline, there would have been no issue.

Newsflash, the Patriots, as well as other teams, still are taping, just from the allowed viewpoint, the endzone or above coaches box level. Your assessment that Belichick was only good due to the fact that he successfully taped from his sideline prior to the Jets game in '07 becomes a bit funny when you actually think about it. How has he continued, including a 16 game winning streak the same season the sideline taping was put to a halt, to win? Easy, because it's a mixture of good players and good coaching. I am sure whatever Belichick gets from his videotapes he uses to this day since a lot of teams still tape from the allowed areas, they gain something as well.

Location, location, location. Pisses me off that we lost all that, but we did break that rule. Got to own up and live with it.

Keep in mind that it was just not the Jets game. It was proven that it was a regular practice over a 7+ year span. The fact that Goodell burned the evidence certainly tells us that it was real bad and he just could never risk having it exposed.

Dirtywater
12-31-2010, 01:26 PM
Keep in mind that it was just not the Jets game. It was proven that it was a regular practice over a 7+ year span. The fact that Goodell burned the evidence certainly tells us that it was real bad and he just could never risk having it exposed.

I don't think you got the point of my post. I agree it was more than the Jets game, in fact I think it was every game he wanted. It still is going on is my point.

The only difference then to now is the location of the cameras. Cameras are allowed to tape, just not from the sidelines or coaches box. They are allowed in the endzones and above the coaches box i believe. Anyway, as others have said, coaches like Jimmy Johnson and others have said they did a similar thing, so these coaches must get something out of it. If you can, i wonder why some do and some don't.