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Hayden Fox
01-21-2011, 10:57 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/dave-wannstedt-buffalo-bills-new-assistant-head-coach-012111

Tunaphish429
01-21-2011, 11:05 AM
Wow, really makes you wonder why? Edwards is a Saban guy who likes a 34 D that attacks the offense..

Wanny is a Jimmy Johnson guy who prefers a conservative 43.

Adam First
01-21-2011, 11:06 AM
Wow, really makes you wonder why? Edwards is a Saban guy who likes a 34 D that attacks the offense..

Wanny is a Jimmy Johnson guy who prefers a conservative 43.

It's the Bills, dude. People like to rag on our front office saying they have no idea what they're doing...

emeraldfin
01-21-2011, 11:11 AM
:lol:

Greydolfin
01-21-2011, 11:14 AM
Now what are going to do???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY


:) :) :)

SabanHater
01-21-2011, 11:15 AM
when the Dolphins do something dumb.... the Bills do something dumber.

Tunaphish429
01-21-2011, 11:20 AM
It's the Bills, dude. People like to rag on our front office saying they have no idea what they're doing...


Very true..But I am thinking they are adding as much defensive fire power..Gailey was able to generate alot of offense last year. The D was the big problem. Wanny does know D, not sure how familiar he is with a 34 tho.

Nublar7
01-21-2011, 11:39 AM
Wanny is a decent addition for them. Definitely not a Mike Nolan type of hire, but he will improve their defense. Though I am sure Edwards is not happy that his power is likely going to be diminished with Wanny looking over his shoulder. As much as we dislike Wanny, can't knock the Bills for hiring him.

BillsFanInPeace
01-21-2011, 02:07 PM
With the Bills running a Hyrbid Defense. I like that there is a 3-4 guy Edwards and a 4-3 Guy Wanny on the staff.

Locke
01-21-2011, 02:17 PM
Bills fans better hope that Gailey doesn't get fired now that we know who is next up on deck...

Tunaphish429
01-21-2011, 02:30 PM
With the Bills running a Hyrbid Defense. I like that there is a 3-4 guy Edwards and a 4-3 Guy Wanny on the staff.

They were only running a "Hybrid Defense" because they didnt have the pieces to play a true 34. My opinion is that there is going to be a huge conflict between the 2 of them on how the Bills D is going to run..I see Gailey taking Wanny side of course.. Wanny is not nearly as good as your making him out to be..When he won as a d coord. he was winning with great talent at the U and in Dallas...The Bills are void of such talent at this time..(Not saying that cant aquire it). Also you may wanna note that Wanny has done nothing without riding Jimmy Johnson's coat tails..Without Jimmy (With Bears and Pitt) He was dreadful. Pitt was the favorite every year to be big east champs (In a weak big east) but yea he did nothing.

Iroquois Joe
01-21-2011, 02:34 PM
With the Bills running a Hyrbid Defense. I like that there is a 3-4 guy Edwards and a 4-3 Guy Wanny on the staff.
Hybrid D's can be caught with wrong personnel on the field to easy, we tried it this year, mind you without the talent, but you have to have a few impact players that can fit both schemes. Kyle Williams by himself doesn't cut it.

He is the LB coach, which is an area in dire need of improvement.

They'll draft a running back at 3 and go 4 and 5th round lbs and cbs as usual. lol.

Iroquois Joe
01-21-2011, 02:50 PM
They were only running a "Hybrid Defense" because they didnt have the pieces to play a true 34. My opinion is that there is going to be a huge conflict between the 2 of them on how the Bills D is going to run..I see Gailey taking Wanny side of course.. Wanny is not nearly as good as your making him out to be..When he won as a d coord. he was winning with great talent at the U and in Dallas...The Bills are void of such talent at this time..(Not saying that cant aquire it). Also you may wanna note that Wanny has done nothing without riding Jimmy Johnson's coat tails..Without Jimmy (With Bears and Pitt) He was dreadful. Pitt was the favorite every year to be big east champs (In a weak big east) but yea he did nothing.
True, he's not the 2nd coming of Dom Capers, but he has had success. Whether there are power struggles or everyone moves toward a common goal is yet to be seen within the Bills coaching ranks. He is respected and the Bills are better for hiring him in the long run.

This draft will speak for itself as to what kind of D they are going to put on the field. They already picked up some developing, but certainly not spectacular talent in Moats, Carrington, Troup, a couple others, who should contribute their 2nd yr. FA who knows?
It will be interesting.

Maybe Miami and Buffalo will be neck in neck for last place in the division come next Dec. with his help on D.

Tunaphish429
01-21-2011, 03:01 PM
True, he's not the 2nd coming of Dom Capers, but he has had success. Whether there are power struggles or everyone moves toward a common goal is yet to be seen within the Bills coaching ranks. He is respected and the Bills are better for hiring him in the long run.

This draft will speak for itself as to what kind of D they are going to put on the field. They already picked up some developing, but certainly not spectacular talent in Moats, Carrington, Troup, a couple others, who should contribute their 2nd yr. FA who knows?
It will be interesting.

Maybe Miami and Buffalo will be neck in neck for last place in the division come next Dec. with his help on D.

Honestly you may have not needed Wanny to compete for last place with us..Cause its looking like we will be at the bottom again. There is something good about Continuity Bills dont really have that.. They go from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Were embarassed because of it. They go back to a 4-3. Sign Merriman a classic 3-4 OLB, Start showing some more 3-4 looks. Now they hire a Lb's/ Assistant HC in Wanny who prefers a 43. Its just not the right move unless they are going to get rid of Edwards..Which wont be a bad thing..But then what? Do they purge the roster again of all the 34 guys that they just drafted?

HeartbreakKid28
01-21-2011, 06:22 PM
Dolphins and Bills aren't that bad, so it shouldn't be a given they'll be battling for last place. With the right moves they can make a jump in 2011, It happens every season. It's obviously very early, but the teams looking most likely to make the jump to the playoffs or at least be in contention to the very end in 2011 would be Buccaneers, Rams, Lions, Dolphins, Jaguars, Cowboys. Bills or 49ers could be okay bets. The Bills might have a QB, if they can fix the D they'll be tough. Dolphins obviously have the D but seem to be missing the QB and need O-Line help, so it all depends on what they can do with that offense to improve. And the coaching staff is desperate to make the playoffs, on the hot seat this year.

Jets have a lot of contacts that will be up, and I really don't think players like Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards will want more one-year deals. This is their big chance. I wouldn't be surprised if they made the playoffs again in 2011 because of solid D and good coaching, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they fell backwards.

BuffaloSoldier2
01-21-2011, 08:15 PM
Bills fans better hope that Gailey doesn't get fired now that we know who is next up on deck...

Wanny went 41-31 (1-8 his last season) & led the Fins to 9 wins or more 4 out of 5 seasons with Jay Fiedler. In 6 full seasons since he left, the Fins have gone 41-55. Obviously, Wanny was the main problem with the Fins. :err:

Plus, he will be a LB coach & assistant head coach. His record as a defensive coach is on par with anyone in the NFL not named LeBeau. This is a very good hire for the Bills.

Iroquois Joe
01-22-2011, 09:07 AM
Honestly you may have not needed Wanny to compete for last place with us..Cause its looking like we will be at the bottom again. There is something good about Continuity Bills dont really have that.. They go from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Were embarassed because of it. They go back to a 4-3. Sign Merriman a classic 3-4 OLB, Start showing some more 3-4 looks. Now they hire a Lb's/ Assistant HC in Wanny who prefers a 43. Its just not the right move unless they are going to get rid of Edwards..Which wont be a bad thing..But then what? Do they purge the roster again of all the 34 guys that they just drafted?
It's been ugly. The Bills have had no real strength to build on, Identity, continuity or sure hand guiding them for years. At least since Williams was the coach. T Donahoe messed thing up pretty good too. It's been a culture of dismantling more than building.

Nix, Whaley and Gailey have some credentials and respect and are working toward building a team from the ground up. It was the only direction they could go. The organization was flat lining and ready to be taken off life support by the end of Jaurons tenure. There were a couple of bright spots, like April. Fewell was rewarded for what he accomplished with Jaurons Dome team D out in the elements.

If the adage a team takes on the personality of it's coach holds true, good old 7-9 Jauron installed the "it's tough to win in the NFL" and play not to lose mentality. Some of Gaileys first words were " I don't hope to win I expect to win". His nobody roster played that way and bounced back after some cover your eyes losses. Gailey might not be the best in the biz, but he has the right attitude and the opportunity to prove his nay sayers wrong.

Point is, if the D is Wanny-ized and confident and talent is added to the roster, the defense will evolve. This year was a starting point for Gailey to see what he had to move forward with. Now he's moving forward with Wannastedt who will put his stamp on that side of the ball. 34, 43????? He'll be working with Edwards, not against him. Time will prove if they get it done one way or the other.

Ricky4Life
01-22-2011, 10:29 AM
Now I am hoping ricky gets resigned by us. Would make it interesting.