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HeartbreakKid28
01-24-2011, 01:37 AM
Now that the 2011 off-season is here for every AFC East team, what is your team looking like for 2011 in terms of free agents and contracts and retirements? The only ones I really know about are Holmes and Edwards being up and the Jets probably signing one to a longer deal than 1 year, and the other going elsewhere. I also think JT will retire, but you never know.

mindstate
01-24-2011, 10:25 AM
They have a handful of big names to look at. Edwards, Holmes, Harris, Cromartie. Then second-tier guys like Brad Smith, Eric Smith, Wayne Hunter etc. At this point I really don't want them to bring Cromartie back. Unless he's willing to take less than $5 mill per (:lol:) it's not worth it to pay him with Revis already making as much as he is.

Edwards and Holmes preached all year about how much they love it here and want to remain Jets long term. We'll see how that holds up at the negotiation table. They'll be able to keep one but unless they each take a discount to stay here (again, :lol:) one will probably be gone. From all indications it's sounding like the team prefers Holmes, but then, the media has been known to get a detail or two wrong.

I expect Tony Richardson to retire, and based on how choked up JT was last night it looks like he knows the end is near as well.

Jetsfan89
01-24-2011, 01:44 PM
The Jets need to bring Holmes, Edwards, and Harris back. I would like for Cro to come back as well but thats probably going to be hard to do.

The best thing IMO would be to resign those 3 and then sign some of the smaller role players like Dig, Eric Smtih, Turner, etc and then look towards the draft to replace Ellis and get a pass rusher.

Nublar7
01-24-2011, 01:52 PM
I would think the Jets are able to bring back either Edwards or Holmes. I doubt they bring back both.

Jetsfan0099
01-24-2011, 02:10 PM
I think the Jets can bring back 2 out of 3 with Holmes, Edwards, and Cromartie... We have a few players that will be cut and save money on... Vernon Gholston is gone, he redid his contract last year so its base pay to cut.. Damien Woody might be cut.. Kris Jenkins will be cut if he doesn't take a paycut. JT probably won't be back. Bryan Thomas may be cut. The Jets could restructure Sanchez contract, he is the biggest cap hit this year at 17 mil, I think he would do something if he can help them keep Holmes and Edwards.

David Harris I am not sure if I want back or not, hes pretty slow but is smart and plays hard. His coverage skills blow and we have another bad coverage guy in Scott so maybe we need a change, if he wants a lot then he can walk. He would need to take a reasonable contract.

MadDog 88
01-25-2011, 01:40 AM
JT is done. If I recall, the deal was 2 years with the second year being outrageously high. I don't believe they have re-signed Harris yet but they will and it will cost a fortune. I would assume that they will stick with Holmes over Edwards and try and fit Cromartie in but then the depth and mid tier playmakers is going to take a hit. They will be nowhere close to the talent level they had this season.

Conan
01-25-2011, 02:06 AM
Harris is a big time priority. Out of the receivers I would prefer to keep Edwards

Dimitri_0515
01-25-2011, 02:54 AM
Jets need both Edwards and Holmes bad. I'd rather let Cro or David Harris go before them.

MadDog 88
01-25-2011, 07:49 AM
Jets need both Edwards and Holmes bad. I'd rather let Cro or David Harris go before them.David Harris is one of the if not THEE best LB in the league. They won't let him go.

nyjunc
01-25-2011, 09:06 AM
Now that the 2011 off-season is here for every AFC East team, what is your team looking like for 2011 in terms of free agents and contracts and retirements? The only ones I really know about are Holmes and Edwards being up and the Jets probably signing one to a longer deal than 1 year, and the other going elsewhere. I also think JT will retire, but you never know.

Taylor didn't do much for us so he will not be a big loss. I would expect 2 of these 3 back- Holmes, Edwards, Cromartie and I hope it's Holmes and Edwards. I expect we'll re-sign David Harris, I think Shaun Ellis might be gone. We'll see what happens but we are in good shape w/ a young core so we'll be contenders again no matter how it plays out.

ganggreen617
01-25-2011, 12:54 PM
Harris is a lock to be back

IMO two of the Holmes Edwards cromartie trio is back

Brad smith is prolly gone since someone will overpay thinking be is more then he really is

Tomlinson is gone McKnight will take that roll over with a veteran back mixed in at the third string spot

Tailgater
01-25-2011, 04:44 PM
I don't see the Jets letting Cro go, not after giving up a 2nd rd pick for him. He'd also be the cheapest to keep out of the three.

Harris is going to be tough, unless he gives them a hometown discount. Otherwise, he'll get $8M + avg. Too many 3-4 teams out there that would love to have him in the middle.

nyjunc
01-25-2011, 04:48 PM
I don't see the Jets letting Cro go, not after giving up a 2nd rd pick for him. He'd also be the cheapest to keep out of the three.

Harris is going to be tough, unless he gives them a hometown discount. Otherwise, he'll get $8M + avg. Too many 3-4 teams out there that would love to have him in the middle.

Harris is too important to our D to let go, I;d be shocked if we kept Cro and allowed Harris to leave.

satz
01-26-2011, 11:20 AM
From what i read 40% Jets starters are FA and there next year payroll is 99 MILLION. is this correct. There is no cap and i am really worried
as its only a number and can be worked on.

nyjunc
01-26-2011, 11:40 AM
From what i read 40% Jets starters are FA and there next year payroll is 99 MILLION. is this correct. There is no cap and i am really worried
as its only a number and can be worked on.

I don't know the exact #s, I do know that we were mid of the pack in payroll this year and were well under where the cap would have been had there been one. Whatever #s you read don't include cap savings for cutting guys like Jenkins, Taylor, etc... We have a cap guru running ou team and the core of our team is locked up for the most part. We will be fine.

Jet Offensive
01-26-2011, 12:18 PM
alot of decisions to be made. i will worry about it when i see what tanny is able to do.

BARF
01-26-2011, 12:59 PM
i wouldn't mind getting one of those wr's and brad smith would be great for the rivalary and big boost for the fins offense

nyjunc
01-26-2011, 01:10 PM
i wouldn't mind getting one of those wr's and brad smith would be great for the rivalary and big boost for the fins offense

I love Brad Smith and I want him back but if he leaves I don't think it will be a big loss. No matter who we have returning kicks they have success w/ Westhoff and I'm sick of the wildcat.

Tailgater
01-26-2011, 02:14 PM
If the owners have their way (& I expect they will), the 2011 cap will be less than the 2010 cap. It may work out better for teams with less players under contract. Teams with a majority of their roster under contract will have to redo more deals than normal to make room under the cap.

jree
01-26-2011, 04:24 PM
I'm sick of the wildcat.

Amen

JB1089
01-27-2011, 01:54 AM
If the owners have their way (& I expect they will), the 2011 cap will be less than the 2010 cap. It may work out better for teams with less players under contract. Teams with a majority of their roster under contract will have to redo more deals than normal to make room under the cap.

There wasn't a 2010 cap, but there's a 0% chance that the 2011 cap would be lower than the 2009 cap. Salaries go up every year, there's no fighting against that as long as league revenues continue to increase. The goal is to slow the growth of player salaries going forward. The new cap will be higher, it's just a matter of how much higher. It was growing at about $7M per year before the CBA expired, but there's also no chance that it comes back at $151M.

milo
01-27-2011, 10:08 AM
If the owners have their way (& I expect they will), the 2011 cap will be less than the 2010 cap. It may work out better for teams with less players under contract. Teams with a majority of their roster under contract will have to redo more deals than normal to make room under the cap.

The cap will at least be the same as 2009. Most likely higher. If 18 games is negotiated then significantly higher, to adjust for larger rosters going forward.

Jetsfan0099
01-27-2011, 11:17 AM
David Harris is a RFA so hes going to be back one way or another...

Tailgater
01-27-2011, 11:48 AM
There wasn't a 2010 cap, but there's a 0% chance that the 2011 cap would be lower than the 2009 cap. Salaries go up every year, there's no fighting against that as long as league revenues continue to increase. The goal is to slow the growth of player salaries going forward. The new cap will be higher, it's just a matter of how much higher. It was growing at about $7M per year before the CBA expired, but there's also no chance that it comes back at $151M.

That was under a cba that promised the players would get 59 or 60% of most of the revenue. The owners want to scale back from that, by about 10%. If they get their way and scale it back to 49 or 50% in the new agreement, the cap will go down from the 2009 cap. As someone mentioned, if they go to the 18 game season, they have to cut two more game checks per player, but new salaries are going to go down for the majority of the players.

Some teams will pay thru the nose for top tier guys, but managing the cap and getting players under contract is going to get tougher, at least until things settle down in a year or two. One key is getting the rookie salary cap in place asap.

satz
01-27-2011, 12:13 PM
David Harris is a RFA so hes going to be back one way or another...

There is no CBA so the old rules do not apply. For a 18 games schedule the players are going to ask for something else and i see RFA,Franchise tags etc being effected. right now without CBA he is a RFA .If a new cba comes in effect with the old rules pre 2009 he is not RFA as now we are operating under the pre 80s cba [default[ according to which he is a RFA.