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Fin_Frenzy_84
02-17-2011, 12:43 AM
I know its late in the season but this team sure deserves a thread!!! Wait till Joakim comes back!!! Bulls will be a serious contendor to win the East!

CedarPhin
02-17-2011, 01:24 AM
They already are a serious contender to win the East in the regular season.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-17-2011, 09:40 AM
They already are a serious contender to win the East in the regular season.

I do agree. Spurs tonight!!!

JCane
02-17-2011, 10:05 AM
Not seeing it. I don't want my point guard scoring 30 a night. It never works out.

kud
02-17-2011, 03:16 PM
Yeah maybe on a Chicago sports forum, lol.

PhinzN703
02-17-2011, 11:59 PM
Really? This thread gets created now? :lol:

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-18-2011, 12:02 AM
Let the haters hate...

J-Cane wtf are you talking about and slim shady heat are only supposed to win a championship in a heat forum so what is your problem?

Rose MVP
Bulls Champions

By the way heat is 1-6 againts the top NBA teams lmao

kud
02-18-2011, 01:12 AM
Let the haters hate...

J-Cane wtf are you talking about and slim shady heat are only supposed to win a championship in a heat forum so what is your problem?

Rose MVP
Bulls Champions

By the way heat is 1-6 againts the top NBA teams lmao

Champions LOL. You're day dreaming son. Are there even any other Bulls fans on this board? Who are you gonna discuss the Bulls with? The haters or yourself?

Wade almost beat the Bulls by himself (again) this season, Lebron didn't play. It took a Kyle Korver traveling into the corner prayer for you to get out of that game with a win on your home court. And again, Lebron didn't play.

dreday
02-18-2011, 03:11 AM
wow..rose is a MAN!!

JCane
02-18-2011, 03:16 AM
Let the haters hate...

J-Cane wtf are you talking about and slim shady heat are only supposed to win a championship in a heat forum so what is your problem?

Rose MVP
Bulls Champions

By the way heat is 1-6 againts the top NBA teams lmao

I'm not hating. I'm just pointing out the obvious. You need your point guard to "create" and not score 30 a night. You have to go back to the late 80's Pistons teams to find a PG who could dominate and take a team to a title. I'm not saying that it can't be done but it's very very rare. Rose can't carry that team to a title alone. Not in the East. The East is too tough with Miami and Boston.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-18-2011, 11:57 AM
I'm not hating. I'm just pointing out the obvious. You need your point guard to "create" and not score 30 a night. You have to go back to the late 80's Pistons teams to find a PG who could dominate and take a team to a title. I'm not saying that it can't be done but it's very very rare. Rose can't carry that team to a title alone. Not in the East. The East is too tough with Miami and Boston.

Spurs couple years ago had Tony Parker running it and had a big man in Duncan... Pefect example...

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Champions LOL. You're day dreaming son. Are there even any other Bulls fans on this board? Who are you gonna discuss the Bulls with? The haters or yourself?

Wade almost beat the Bulls by himself (again) this season, Lebron didn't play. It took a Kyle Korver traveling into the corner prayer for you to get out of that game with a win on your home court. And again, Lebron didn't play.

I seen some of your post about the heat... your obviously a homer. We beat yall fair and square...

JCane
02-18-2011, 03:57 PM
No, Duncan was the man. And they had Popovich as well as numerous role players all the way to a deep bench. It's not a perfect example. You want it to be, but it's not. Your PG can't be the man night in and night out. This isn't college basketball. These are big boys. He's gonna need help.

All the way back to the late 80's Detroit Pistons.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-18-2011, 05:15 PM
No, Duncan was the man. And they had Popovich as well as numerous role players all the way to a deep bench. It's not a perfect example. You want it to be, but it's not. Your PG can't be the man night in and night out. This isn't college basketball. These are big boys. He's gonna need help.

All the way back to the late 80's Detroit Pistons.

Tony Parker was MVP of the finals...

Also you can argubaly say Billups was a big reason the Pistons made it couple years ago.

Also you can say Rondo was a big reason celtics made it.

You also think the Bulls only got Rose and you believe a championship team cannot win with a dominant PG. Which PG runs the team and not Center,Small Forward,Shooting Guard, or Power Forward.. Who is calling the plays? PG!!!

We also got Deng that cant score and is 18 ppg a night
We also got Boozer who is 19 ppg a night and 10 Reb
Then Noah who is about 13 ppg and 12 reb...
We also have depth..
Also got the number 1 defense in the league and you should know the saying... "Defense wins championships"


I still cant believe how you can say just because our number 1 player and a guy who is in the run for MVP is not gonna win it all this year because the position he plays... Tell any NBA expert that and they will laugh at you...

JCane
02-18-2011, 06:43 PM
Dude lol...you're not getting what I'm saying.

I'm not saying that Rose isn't a great player. I'm not saying that Rose can't carry the Bulls on his back. I know Rose calls the plays. I know Rose is a dominant PG.

Derrick Rose is a completely different player than Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups, and Rajon Rondo. Those three create for their teammates and that's something that Rose doesn't do. It's not that he can't do it but rather he isn't surrounded by the team that Parker, Billups, and Rondo were and are surrounded by.

And I'm not saying that the Bulls can't win it because the position he plays. That has nothing to do with it. What I'm saying is that too much of the scoring comes from the wrong position. I don't think the Bulls are ready THIS year. I think they're still a year away just like we are. Next year I think it's between Miami and Chicago assuming New York doesn't get Carmelo Anthony.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-19-2011, 01:34 AM
Dude lol...you're not getting what I'm saying.

I'm not saying that Rose isn't a great player. I'm not saying that Rose can't carry the Bulls on his back. I know Rose calls the plays. I know Rose is a dominant PG.

Derrick Rose is a completely different player than Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups, and Rajon Rondo. Those three create for their teammates and that's something that Rose doesn't do. It's not that he can't do it but rather he isn't surrounded by the team that Parker, Billups, and Rondo were and are surrounded by.

And I'm not saying that the Bulls can't win it because the position he plays. That has nothing to do with it. What I'm saying is that too much of the scoring comes from the wrong position. I don't think the Bulls are ready THIS year. I think they're still a year away just like we are. Next year I think it's between Miami and Chicago assuming New York doesn't get Carmelo Anthony.


My fault I see what your saying now... but he has the weapons on his team... Deng,Noah,Boozer... He also scores alot but he creates for his team as well. Look at Deng, he is nothing without rose...Also rose does have 8.2 assists and that show he uses the team.

kud
02-19-2011, 02:50 AM
I seen some of your post about the heat... your obviously a homer. We beat yall fair and square...

So if we beat you and Derrick Rose was out would that be fair and Square? Lol @ U Homer! You can only dream about matching up with the Heat. They'd crush you to dust. The Celtics is another story, but I still have faith that the Heat will figure them out. It was actually one bad quarter that cost us that last game where we gave up 37 points.

Anyway, your best player isn't even as good as our second best player in the playoffs. DW has an excellent track record of putting up big numbers when the games count.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-19-2011, 01:18 PM
So if we beat you and Derrick Rose was out would that be fair and Square? Lol @ U Homer! You can only dream about matching up with the Heat. They'd crush you to dust. The Celtics is another story, but I still have faith that the Heat will figure them out. It was actually one bad quarter that cost us that last game where we gave up 37 points.

Anyway, your best player isn't even as good as our second best player in the playoffs. DW has an excellent track record of putting up big numbers when the games count.

Dude we just beat the best team in the league without our best rebounder and top 5 center in Noah... We also had him out when we played you guys and im not saying he will make as big as a impact as Bron but he would give us many more offensive rebounds and teams will stop being able to double team Boozer... You think you will kill us. You may just be mad because espn is hopping off the heat bandwagon and jumping on the real bandwagon..

kud
02-19-2011, 01:48 PM
Dude we just beat the best team in the league without our best rebounder and top 5 center in Noah... We also had him out when we played you guys and im not saying he will make as big as a impact as Bron but he would give us many more offensive rebounds and teams will stop being able to double team Boozer... You think you will kill us. You may just be mad because espn is hopping off the heat bandwagon and jumping on the real bandwagon..

Uh, no, Rose was not out. He actually scored 37 points with 8 asts and 4 boards. http://www.nba.com/games/20110115/MIACHI/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore There's your box score, there's a video to refresh your memory. Wade OWNED your team my himself. Rose didn't come back and answer WADEs back to back to back TREYs. Traveling Kyle Korver did. This is also in the middle of a stretch of us losing 5 of 6 games due to at least one of our trio being out each game.

That's great that you beat the Spurs good for you, we haven't played them yet. Records don't exactly make u the best team. Just ask the Mavericks the passed billion years. When playoff time rolls around. I see a lot of guys on the heat with serious playoff experience, TWO guys with multiple ECF experience (Lebron and Wade) 2 guys with FINALS experience (Lebron and Wade) 1 Finals MVP (Wade.) And I see a Bulls team with, well none of that.

And your Joakim Noah, is basically akin to our Udonis Haslem. Hate to break i to ya. SO, we have 2 better players than your best player. With good shooters all around. What do you think would happen if we met? Which we won't so this is pointless. Because the Heat are gonna get the #1 seed. This you will be playing Boston in the second round and getting beat, while we will play Orlando or ATL.

Oh and P.S. Boozer is a playoff choker. Edit: Oh excuse me I thought you were saying ROSE was out. Noah was out? No ****. Does Noah = Lebron on your planet, even close? even? in a billion years?

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-19-2011, 03:38 PM
Uh, no, Rose was not out. He actually scored 37 points with 8 asts and 4 boards. http://www.nba.com/games/20110115/MIACHI/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore There's your box score, there's a video to refresh your memory. Wade OWNED your team my himself. Rose didn't come back and answer WADEs back to back to back TREYs. Traveling Kyle Korver did. This is also in the middle of a stretch of us losing 5 of 6 games due to at least one of our trio being out each game.

That's great that you beat the Spurs good for you, we haven't played them yet. Records don't exactly make u the best team. Just ask the Mavericks the passed billion years. When playoff time rolls around. I see a lot of guys on the heat with serious playoff experience, TWO guys with multiple ECF experience (Lebron and Wade) 2 guys with FINALS experience (Lebron and Wade) 1 Finals MVP (Wade.) And I see a Bulls team with, well none of that.

And your Joakim Noah, is basically akin to our Udonis Haslem. Hate to break i to ya. SO, we have 2 better players than your best player. With good shooters all around. What do you think would happen if we met? Which we won't so this is pointless. Because the Heat are gonna get the #1 seed. This you will be playing Boston in the second round and getting beat, while we will play Orlando or ATL.

Oh and P.S. Boozer is a playoff choker. Edit: Oh excuse me I thought you were saying ROSE was out. Noah was out? No ****. Does Noah = Lebron on your planet, even close? even? in a billion years?

I think I already said Bron is better than Noah... But he makes a huge impact which you dont realize. for example a big man makes so much impact, just look at the last 10 nba champs, they had a dominant big man. Also you think Udonis is a god!!! Taj will school him. Also you believe Wade is better than Rose this year? where is Wade in MVP talk? Behind Rose.... How the **** can you say our Joakim Noah is you Udonis... That is why I say your a homer...

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-19-2011, 03:42 PM
Bulls/Heat
PG>PG
SG<SG
SF<SF
PF>PF
C>C
DEPTH>DEPTH

Thats proven stats right there...

Also isnt Heat 1-6 against top teams... They are fake!!!!
Bulls 4-4 against top teams and they have not been healthy this season!!!

kud
02-19-2011, 04:21 PM
I think I already said Bron is better than Noah... But he makes a huge impact which you dont realize. for example a big man makes so much impact, just look at the last 10 nba champs, they had a dominant big man. Also you think Udonis is a god!!! Taj will school him. Also you believe Wade is better than Rose this year? where is Wade in MVP talk? Behind Rose.... How the **** can you say our Joakim Noah is you Udonis... That is why I say your a homer...

Udonis is a God, he's MIAMI OG. Not some pampered punk like most basketball players. and he has very comparable statistics to Joakim even in a dminished role. He averages 10 less minutes per game.

How the hell do you figure you're > at PF rofl. Chris Bosh/Udonis Haslem > Boozer n whoever.

kud
02-19-2011, 04:30 PM
keep trying to convince yourself you're good enough to beat the Heat. Have this whole thread, talk to your self. Make yourself believe. That's the only way you're gonna get any satisfaction, before you get hammered by the Celtics, and don't even play us. Carry on junior.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-19-2011, 08:43 PM
Udonis is a God, he's MIAMI OG. Not some pampered punk like most basketball players. and he has very comparable statistics to Joakim even in a dminished role. He averages 10 less minutes per game.

How the hell do you figure you're > at PF rofl. Chris Bosh/Udonis Haslem > Boozer n whoever.

Taj Gibson. If you dont know Taj you dont watch enough basketball which I should not even debate with you because you dont know the sport well enough... Also look at the stats... Boozer has better numbers that Bosh and Taj and Haslem has comparable numbers. EDGE US

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keep trying to convince yourself you're good enough to beat the Heat. Have this whole thread, talk to your self. Make yourself believe. That's the only way you're gonna get any satisfaction, before you get hammered by the Celtics, and don't even play us. Carry on junior.

Hammered by Celtics? At least we beat them!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

kud
02-21-2011, 11:52 PM
Taj Gibson. If you dont know Taj you dont watch enough basketball which I should not even debate with you because you dont know the sport well enough... Also look at the stats... Boozer has better numbers that Bosh and Taj and Haslem has comparable numbers. EDGE US

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Hammered by Celtics? At least we beat them!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

We'll find out a little more in a couple days, I believe we play you this week, and we should be at full strength (minus Haslem he won't be back til late march/april) But our big 3 should be in tact.

And yes, I vaguely know who Taj Gibson, is, but no, i don't know the names of every teams entire roster by memory.

Either way, you just make a better case us > you at PF with healthy UD.

So it's more like this

PG Bulls >> Heat
SG Bulls << Heat
SF Bulls << Heat
PF Bulls < Heat or at best =
C Bulls > Heat

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-22-2011, 12:12 AM
We'll find out a little more in a couple days, I believe we play you this week, and we should be at full strength (minus Haslem he won't be back til late march/april) But our big 3 should be in tact.

And yes, I vaguely know who Taj Gibson, is, but no, i don't know the names of every teams entire roster by memory.

Either way, you just make a better case us > you at PF with healthy UD.

So it's more like this

PG Bulls >> Heat
SG Bulls << Heat
SF Bulls << Heat
PF Bulls < Heat or at best =
C Bulls > Heat

My whole point I gave the Bulls PF is because stats this year...

Boozer>Bosh
Udonis>Taj (but he is getting more mins than taj)
I give edge to us or at best =

Im not expecting bulls to be at there best thursday when we play since it will only be Noahs 2nd game back but give it a week or two...

X-Pacolypse
02-22-2011, 12:16 AM
Haters gonna hate.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-22-2011, 12:22 AM
Haters gonna hate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDzjCm_dXvg

Kdawg954
02-22-2011, 12:57 AM
The Bulls are not beating the Heat. You can put on paper the matchups and everything else, fact is, the Bulls have a really nice young PG in Rose, but the Heat have 2 future HOF players still in their 20's and one of the top skilled big man in the league. The Heat have sharp shooters all over the court . . . they are just far too advanced for a team like Chicago to even consider losing to them 4 times in 7 games. I couldn't see it happening. Doesn't mean Chicago isn't a good team, they are, hell they can beat the Heat . . . but teams play at different levels in the playoffs and the Heat have the type of talent that elevates their game when the stakes are higher. It isn't something that you can put on paper and figure out . . . it is just reality.

The Bulls are going to be like the Hawks of recent years . . . that scary regular season team that just doesn't have the ELITE scorers to carry them to that next level . . . why do you think they wanted Wade or Lebron so bad in the offseason?

A veteran team like Boston with 4 legitimate all stars can beat the Heat, it should be fun to watch come May and June . . . Orlando is real scary if they put it all together . . . those 3 are the top teams in the East. The Bulls fall in that 2nd tier . . . and there is nothing wrong with that. They are going to have to focus on that first round opponent and hope they advance to the eastern semi's.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-22-2011, 01:09 AM
The Bulls are not beating the Heat. You can put on paper the matchups and everything else, fact is, the Bulls have a really nice young PG in Rose, but the Heat have 2 future HOF players still in their 20's and one of the top skilled big man in the league. The Heat have sharp shooters all over the court . . . they are just far too advanced for a team like Chicago to even consider losing to them 4 times in 7 games. I couldn't see it happening. Doesn't mean Chicago isn't a good team, they are, hell they can beat the Heat . . . but teams play at different levels in the playoffs and the Heat have the type of talent that elevates their game when the stakes are higher. It isn't something that you can put on paper and figure out . . . it is just reality.

The Bulls are going to be like the Hawks of recent years . . . that scary regular season team that just doesn't have the ELITE scorers to carry them to that next level . . . why do you think they wanted Wade or Lebron so bad in the offseason?

A veteran team like Boston with 4 legitimate all stars can beat the Heat, it should be fun to watch come May and June . . . Orlando is real scary if they put it all together . . . those 3 are the top teams in the East. The Bulls fall in that 2nd tier . . . and there is nothing wrong with that. They are going to have to focus on that first round opponent and hope they advance to the eastern semi's.

So we have a good PG and thats it...

You forgot about Noah who is top 5 rebounder in the league... Boozer who is one of the best rebounding PF in the league and also gets his 19 ppg... You also forgot Deng who easily should of made it to the all star game over pierce. Deng is a great 3rd option. We also have a great Bench.

Bulls also have 4 Possible All Stars...
Rose
Noah would of made it if healthy
Pierce made it to the all star game over Deng because of popularity...
Boozer was a borderline all star...

So we have 4 guys putting up all star numbers..

Kdawg954
02-22-2011, 01:27 AM
So we have a good PG and thats it...

You forgot about Noah who is top 5 rebounder in the league... Boozer who is one of the best rebounding PF in the league and also gets his 19 ppg... You also forgot Deng who easily should of made it to the all star game over pierce. Deng is a great 3rd option. We also have a great Bench.

Bulls also have 4 Possible All Stars...
Rose
Noah would of made it if healthy
Pierce made it to the all star game over Deng because of popularity...
Boozer was a borderline all star...

So we have 4 guys putting up all star numbers..

And how many of those guys are Finals battle tested like the Celtics and the Magic? Atlanta had a similar argument in recent years with Joe Johnson, Al Horford, Josh Smith and those guys. I'm telling you, it is a whole other ballgame come playoff time . . . throw out the regular season stats. You think the Bulls can matchup to the Celtics man for man in the playoffs? Who is hitting those clutch shots that Allen and Pierce hit? Who is taking over the game like a Lebron or Wade can? The Bulls just don't have that yet. I mean anything can happen in the playoffs . . . but to outright predict that they can hang with the elite teams in the East is very wishful thinking at best on your part. Part of having big time players on your team is having those guys having the ability to step their game up in the big moments. I don't think the Bulls have that capability yet.

You can keep spinning it on paper, and who is top 5 at this and everything . . . in the end, the cream of the crop rises to the top, and if you want to believe Rose, Deng and Boozer is going to take over games against the stars of Boston or Miami then so be it . . . I just think your are being a fan, and there is nothing wrong with that, but objectively I highly doubt I see it happen this year.

But that is why they play, and you should enjoy it going forward . . . the Bulls are playing good ball and I like their team alot. I am just not a fan of spinning things to make it seem they are as good as any team in the East, when that just isn't true, not in crunch time.

kud
02-22-2011, 02:02 AM
My whole point I gave the Bulls PF is because stats this year...

Boozer>Bosh
Udonis>Taj (but he is getting more mins than taj)
I give edge to us or at best =

Im not expecting bulls to be at there best thursday when we play since it will only be Noahs 2nd game back but give it a week or two...

U beat the Spurs, ?and the Celtics without Noah. Don't start making excuses now. If you win you have bragging rights until the playoffs, if we win you shut the hell up. You also have the advantage of being at home (again) where your record is amazing especially compared to your record on the road.

kud
02-22-2011, 02:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDzjCm_dXvg

Thanks for reinforcing my original opinion when I watched that game that he did in fact travel. 3 steps after possession(and stopping dribble) of the ball is in fact a travel, he took 4. Watch carefully now.

jree
02-22-2011, 02:21 AM
My whole point I gave the Bulls PF is because stats this year...

Boozer>Bosh
Udonis>Taj (but he is getting more mins than taj)
I give edge to us or at best =

Im not expecting bulls to be at there best thursday when we play since it will only be Noahs 2nd game back but give it a week or two...

I tried to stay outta this thread but goddamn do some of the haters have a double standard or what. Your not gonna be at your best b/c its only gonna be Noah's 2nd game back? UD will be out longer than Noah was and he's our starter at PF/C. We have ****ing Juwan Howard putting in minutes to make up for his absence. You honestly believe that the Heat are at 100%?

You can't just give the PF win to Boozer just cause of stats. Bosh is the 3rd option on our team behind the number 3 and 4 scorers in the nba. Boozer is the 2nd option and both their stats are close. They both aren't the best at D but Boozer is ****ing horrible at it. He defends like a 2 guard which is already a disadvantage cause he's shorter than most PF's. Utah Jazz fans hated him cause he was always injured even though he never made an effort to put his body into anything. The guy is all about himself and thats it. He doesn't care about anything but the money. The Bulls could be 10-50 and he wouldn't give a **** as long as he was getting paid. Boozer was the one player I was praying wouldn't come to Miami.

Its going to be a great matchup for a while but to sit here and say that the Heat are fake and whatever is just a hater statement all together. To deny the talent of the Heat is laughable. You guys beat the Spurs and the Celtics. Congratulations. So did the Knicks. If everything stays the way its is right now, you guys face off in the first round(not sure but I think) and with the acquisition of Melo and Billups, your title run gets a little harder right off the bat.

Anyway, this is all still preseason ball.

kud
02-22-2011, 04:04 AM
So we have a good PG and thats it...

You forgot about Noah who is top 5 rebounder in the league... Boozer who is one of the best rebounding PF in the league and also gets his 19 ppg... You also forgot Deng who easily should of made it to the all star game over pierce. Deng is a great 3rd option. We also have a great Bench.

Bulls also have 4 Possible All Stars...
Rose
Noah would of made it if healthy
Pierce made it to the all star game over Deng because of popularity...
Boozer was a borderline all star...

So we have 4 guys putting up all star numbers..

Do really want to start talking about stats? Really.

Heat are #1 in scoring differential in the league at (+7.82.) #3 in offensive FG% (47.4) #1 in defensive FG% (42.6) #1 in defensive 3 pt % (33.0) and I know this one may come as a surprise to you, it even surprises me, but we are #5 in rebounding differential at (+2.57)

Now, i'm not usually one to bring up statistics but since you decided to, and team statistics are much more important than individual ones, we beat you in pretty much every category(except rebounding although we are surprisingly high.) In fact, we dominate almost every category.

But I realize all this means is squat when it comes to the playoffs. And I'm basically only bringing up to show you that... we have been a dominant regular team. Yes we had some struggles against the Celts.

Against the Mavs, another early season game we lost by 2. Against the Bulls we lost by a Korver traveling 3(without LBJ) And against the C's after we had time to actually gel we lost by 2. So yes, although we've been beat by these teams, we are still the 3rd best team in the NBA, for now. Even after you beat the Celts and Spurs and we didn't(Haven't played Spurs yet.) Cause the fact of the matter is, we're better than you. And you'd never beat us in 7 games. End of story. There is no rivalry here. The only rivalry that exists is against the Celtics in the East, and our only goal is to figure out how to beat them. We are not worried about the Chicago Bulls I assure you. Not even if you happen to beat us Thursday. It's a different game in the playoffs buddy.

The Heat were 0-4 against the Mavs in 06 including the playoffs. And not only the Mavs, we stunk it up against a ton of good teams. I believe we were "supposed to be done when we went down 1-3 to the Nets" "we were supposed to be done against the Bulls that year" Who won the championship that year again? Exactly. The regular season is only a tool to A) decide playoff seedings for home court purposes, and B) To allow fans to enjoy their team and see what they could be capable of, and C) to decide which bad team gets the most lottery balls.

The playoffs may as well be an entirely different sport. And the fact of the matter is, our 2 stars with plenty of experience trump your 1 star with none. End of story. You can talk about the rest of the matchups all you want. At the end of the day its, Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh vs Derrick Rose and Carlos Boozer. Even your Rose (no pun intended) colored glasses can't be homerotic enough to think you win that match up in a 7 game series.

Lastly, let me say, I hate he Bulls, I've hated them since the 90s when I got into basketball, they are one of my top 5 most despised teams, that said, I totally understand why you are excited about your team and their future, you deserve to be. Derrick Rose may just win the MVP and if he does I wouldn't complain, but you beating us, this year? In a playoff series? It's nothin but a pipe dream my friend. If I'm wrong I'll be more than happy to eat all the crow you serve up. But we just have more talent than you at the end of the day. You are a really good team on the verge of becoming a great team, that is what the BULLS are. So go ahead, be excited, BEAT THE HEAT as the crowds love to chant, just not in 7 games, cause it won't happen, sorry maybe if you make some moves u can get us in a year or two.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-22-2011, 12:21 PM
U beat the Spurs, ?and the Celtics without Noah. Don't start making excuses now. If you win you have bragging rights until the playoffs, if we win you shut the hell up. You also have the advantage of being at home (again) where your record is amazing especially compared to your record on the road.

So you think Noah will be 100 percent

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-22-2011, 12:30 PM
Do really want to start talking about stats? Really.

Heat are #1 in scoring differential in the league at (+7.82.) #3 in offensive FG% (47.4) #1 in defensive FG% (42.6) #1 in defensive 3 pt % (33.0) and I know this one may come as a surprise to you, it even surprises me, but we are #5 in rebounding differential at (+2.57)

Now, i'm not usually one to bring up statistics but since you decided to, and team statistics are much more important than individual ones, we beat you in pretty much every category(except rebounding although we are surprisingly high.) In fact, we dominate almost every category.

But I realize all this means is squat when it comes to the playoffs. And I'm basically only bringing up to show you that... we have been a dominant regular team. Yes we had some struggles against the Celts.

Against the Mavs, another early season game we lost by 2. Against the Bulls we lost by a Korver traveling 3(without LBJ) And against the C's after we had time to actually gel we lost by 2. So yes, although we've been beat by these teams, we are still the 3rd best team in the NBA, for now. Even after you beat the Celts and Spurs and we didn't(Haven't played Spurs yet.) Cause the fact of the matter is, we're better than you. And you'd never beat us in 7 games. End of story. There is no rivalry here. The only rivalry that exists is against the Celtics in the East, and our only goal is to figure out how to beat them. We are not worried about the Chicago Bulls I assure you. Not even if you happen to beat us Thursday. It's a different game in the playoffs buddy.

The Heat were 0-4 against the Mavs in 06 including the playoffs. And not only the Mavs, we stunk it up against a ton of good teams. I believe we were "supposed to be done when we went down 1-3 to the Nets" "we were supposed to be done against the Bulls that year" Who won the championship that year again? Exactly. The regular season is only a tool to A) decide playoff seedings for home court purposes, and B) To allow fans to enjoy their team and see what they could be capable of, and C) to decide which bad team gets the most lottery balls.

The playoffs may as well be an entirely different sport. And the fact of the matter is, our 2 stars with plenty of experience trump your 1 star with none. End of story. You can talk about the rest of the matchups all you want. At the end of the day its, Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh vs Derrick Rose and Carlos Boozer. Even your Rose (no pun intended) colored glasses can't be homerotic enough to think you win that match up in a 7 game series.

Lastly, let me say, I hate he Bulls, I've hated them since the 90s when I got into basketball, they are one of my top 5 most despised teams, that said, I totally understand why you are excited about your team and their future, you deserve to be. Derrick Rose may just win the MVP and if he does I wouldn't complain, but you beating us, this year? In a playoff series? It's nothin but a pipe dream my friend. If I'm wrong I'll be more than happy to eat all the crow you serve up. But we just have more talent than you at the end of the day. You are a really good team on the verge of becoming a great team, that is what the BULLS are. So go ahead, be excited, BEAT THE HEAT as the crowds love to chant, just not in 7 games, cause it won't happen, sorry maybe if you make some moves u can get us in a year or two.

Beating you is a pipe dream... Your a heat fan of course your gonna say that...

Kdawg954
02-22-2011, 12:49 PM
You know what the Bulls are going to remind me of . . . the 1995-1996 Orlando Magic team. I remember this because I was in middle school and I made a bet that the Bulls would not only beat the Magic, but they would sweep them on their way to the Finals. Mind you, this Magic team had Penny Hardaway coming off of an incredible year. Shaq in his prime . . . veterans like Anderson, Scott, Horace Grant, Brian Shaw, Donald Royal and Anthony Bowie. The person I bet with thought I was nuts, because he thought not only were the Magic not going to get swept, but they would win the series . . . mind you this is the 72 win Bulls team we are talking about with Jordan, Pippen, Rodman and Kukoc.

Even though Orlando had been there before and won, I still weighed the fact of Jordan's hunger, Pippen's struggles the previous years w/o MJ and the addition of a champion like Rodman so heavily that it would be impossible for the Bulls to lose a gam that series. Turns out the Bulls swept them on their way to the Finals and I won my bet.

Only difference between that Magic team and this Bulls team we are seeing is that this Bulls team never made it to the conference Finals, this Bulls team doesn't have the dominant big man and this Bulls team arguably as 3 more experienced teams ahead of them in Miami, Boston and Orlando.

Comparing that 96 Bulls team to this Heat team is very similar IMO. You got 2 superstars on both teams . . . you have a guy in Wade who arguably put up the greatest Finals performance ever when the Heat won the championship. Both teams lacked quality big men but both team had clutch shooters/3 point men and both teams were scrappy on defense when they needed to be (though that Bulls team was elite on defense). The biggest difference is coaching, but something tells me Riley will be a little more involved if he needs to be come playoff time.

The regular season stat sheet may not weigh these things out, but in the end, the lack of experience of the Bulls and the experience of those other 3 teams ahead of them will ultimatlely be there undoing and that is not an embarrassing thing. It isn't their time to make that next step. Maybe next year when Boston is older, the Magic are having difficulites with the current group and the Knicks haven't gelled. That will be their best chance to reach the Finals. This isn't the year for the Bulls.

kud
02-23-2011, 10:13 AM
Beating you is a pipe dream... Your a heat fan of course your gonna say that...

Nice argument. But it's simply because we have more talented players. Not cause I'm a Heat fan, not cause your a Bulls fan. But you're free to think what you want. You can think I'm being a homer if you want. And you can think the Bulls parallel with Miami. We'll find out soon enough. If a C's fan showed up here, I'd give him and his team more respect, because they've earned it. You (barely) beating us once in the regular season without our best player on the floor does not earn you respect with me. Beat us tomorrow night and I will give your team more respect, promise.

jree
02-24-2011, 11:45 PM
Great game for you guys. This is going to be a fun matchup to watch for the next couple of years

kud
02-25-2011, 12:27 AM
Thanks to Chris ****ing Bosh I get to eat crow. Enjoy it while it lasts. This was easily one of the worst games of his career. And it wasn't even a matter of great defense. There was just a lid on the basket for him. Even missing point blank layups.

Anyways, you won, congrats. You still won't beat us in 7 games, but I still want to try and avoid you by getting the #1 seed if we can, just because the Magic are an easier road to the ECF, and of course if we have the #1 seed we get home court all the way up til the Finals.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-25-2011, 12:34 AM
Good game guys.. I knew it would go down to the wire.

Fin_Frenzy_84
02-25-2011, 12:46 AM
Slim shady its funny how it seems that you think we are a fake team and not none of the big boys. Yet you are??? How are you a big boy when your 1-7 against the top teams... In order to be a big boy, you have to beat the big boy..

kud
02-25-2011, 01:16 AM
Slim shady its funny how it seems that you think we are a fake team and not none of the big boys. Yet you are??? How are you a big boy when your 1-7 against the top teams... In order to be a big boy, you have to beat the big boy..

4 words and 2 names. If only they could get the tiniest bit of help.

kud
02-25-2011, 01:18 AM
Btw they said during the game this was the single worst shooting performance since 1976. Just in case you didn't understand that Magnitude of Bosh's horrific performance tonight.

Fin_Frenzy_84
03-04-2011, 11:30 PM
Bulls!!! Knicks lost again!!! Knicks Blow!!! Heat losing to another elite team... Heat are fake..

Fin_Frenzy_84
03-26-2011, 01:59 PM
My Bulls gonna win the EAST thats whats up!!! Derrick Rose MVP

PhinsPhan11
03-26-2011, 02:46 PM
My Bulls gonna win the EAST thats whats up!!! Derrick Rose MVP
Rose should definitely be MVP.

jree
05-25-2011, 12:42 AM
My Bulls gonna win the EAST thats whats up!!! Derrick Rose MVP

Outlook not so good

JCane
05-25-2011, 12:47 AM
Congratulations to Derrick Rose, Tom Thibodeau, and the Chicago Bulls for their individual awards and best regular season record.

You guys earned it.

jree
05-25-2011, 12:50 AM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2011/05/2010_bulls_preview-1.jpg = http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2011/05/imagesqtbnANd9GcSnILNVobCh6dyI1Fld_dwKn2-1.jpg

JCane
05-25-2011, 03:06 AM
My Bulls gonna win the EAST thats whats up!!! Derrick Rose MVP

Can we borrow your confetti?

kud
05-25-2011, 03:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=738Hbps-zOo

jree
05-25-2011, 12:42 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2011/05/NewPicture1-1.jpg


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