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NY8123
04-20-2011, 10:23 AM
Worth a read from CHFF.


By Todd DeVries
Cold, Hard Football Facts Franchise Waterboy

“Franchise linebacker” just doesn’t have the same ring to it, does it?

No, there is only one fitting surname in the NFL lexicon for the word “franchise” QUARTERBACK.

Find the right one on draft day and your team is set for a decade. Guess wrong and, to steal a verb from our own Frankie C., you’re JaMarcused.

Disciples of the Cold, Hard Football Facts know that professional football games are won via an efficient passing game, not by “establishing the run.” Therefore, it’s no surprise that NFL personnel guys are so desperate to find signal callers who can sling the pigskin: you rarely win without them.

History shows that teams are more willing to roll the dice on quarterbacks at the top of the draft than any other position. Since 2005, 53 percent of quarterbacks selected in the first round go in the Top 10.


http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_3719_Draft_Primer%3A_desperately_seeking_quarterbacks.html

BostonPhin4
04-20-2011, 11:41 AM
And since Marino we have spent how many first rounders on QBs? We are clearly not a franchise that places enough value of a franchise QB to gamble with our first rounders. Even on guys almost sure to be successful like Matt Ryan.

Luckily we have been fantastic on our evaluation of the QB prospects from the "bargain bin" which has allowed us to fill other areas of need while selecting such gems as Cleo Lemon, Chad Henne, Pat White, John Beck, Josh Heupel, and others.

This regime has just about worn out my patience when it comes to the QB position, everyone and their mother can see it is time to finally invest in a guy with a high pick rather than shopping in the "bargain bin" so we can acquire more picks, or use our first on more roll players.

I have said it in other threads, but if this team passes on Mallet(he'll I'd even take POnder) at #15 for another "value" 2nd or 3rd rounder I will seriously reconsider my continued financial support and time investment inthe Dolphins who are forgive the pun "dead in the water".

newlownorder
04-20-2011, 12:44 PM
History has shown that the majority of 2nd round QB's don't become Pro Bowl QB's. We have to get a quality QB or we will be stuck accepting mediocrity.

Aqua and Orange
04-20-2011, 12:50 PM
Games started by the crap storm known as a Dolphins QB position since Marino

2000: Jay Fiedler (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=712) (15), Damon Huard (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1398) (one)

2001: Fiedler (16)

2002: Fielder (10), Ray Lucas (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1161) (six)

2003: Fiedler (11), Brian Griese (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1493) (five)

2004: A.J. Feeley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2704) (eight), Fiedler (seven), Sage Rosenfels (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2658) (one)

2005: Gus Frerotte (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=622) (15), Rosenfels (one)

2006: Joey Harrington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3531) (11), Daunte Culpepper (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1762) (four), Cleo Lemon (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5051) (one)

2007: Lemon (seven), Trent Green (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=478) (five), John Beck (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10484) (four)

2008: Chad Pennington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2149) (16)

2009: Chad Henne (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11291) (13), Pennington (three)

2010: Henne (14), Pennington (one), Thigpen (one)

That is 15 quarterbacks since Marino. Except for Pennington and mayyyyybe Fielder, every name on this list is laughable. VERY few of them were drafted by the Dolphins. What does that mean? Little to no development time and marginal talent, leading to a short leash and a lack of confidence by the organization and fans.

Show me someone who said that development within an organization, talent, and confidence were not important to a QB prospect and I will show you an idiot (or the past several Dolphins GMs).

NY8123
04-20-2011, 01:11 PM
The thing about this whole QB situation is, if we were in the middle of a normal free agent offseason and Miami landed Palmer or some other veteran QB I would say don't use a first round pick this season.

But that isn't the case and I am unsure if a deal will get done in time for free agency so Miami almost has to use a first rounder this year. Miami has to have a plan in place in case Henne plays the same way he did last season.

finfan54
04-20-2011, 07:25 PM
carson palmer...fogetaboutit!

Aqua and Orange
04-21-2011, 10:54 AM
carson palmer...fogetaboutit!

I dunno....

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2011/04/carson20palmer-1.jpg

nato47
04-21-2011, 11:11 AM
Too often the Phins have been afraid to make a mistake when selecting a QB. Their cowardice along with lack of foresight has led this franchise to new lows. A once proud franchise has to revert to the past in order to swallow the bitter pill known as the present. It's time to "man up", "grab the bull by it's horns", "put up or shut up." Call it what you will as long as the Phins finally get the right signal caller.