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NYPhinFan
01-11-2004, 03:40 PM
Shall be put under every post he writes and it states:
I know all my predictions are wrong...doesn't matter...I will make up some more...sorry but my smack talk is only one way...can't handle any talk of facts or coming back at me...will only respond when I think everyone has forgotten what I was wrong about before...and my only response will be December collapse and We won because we got the better draft pick...and please don't confuse what I say with relevance...

CirclingWagons
01-11-2004, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by NYPhinFan
Shall be put under every post he writes and it states:
I know all my predictions are wrong...doesn't matter...I will make up some more...sorry but my smack talk is only one way...can't handle any talk of facts or coming back at me...will only respond when I think everyone has forgotten what I was wrong about before...and my only response will be December collapse and We won because we got the better draft pick...and please don't confuse what I say with relevance... Wow, for someone you don't think too highly of I sure do influence you a lot...not only am I in your sig, but you write a paragraph about me in every post:lol:

btw, you still haven't argued back my point with anything but foolish pride.

Now read this very carefully, cause you seem to be misinterpreting it everytime:

Bills finished 6-10, no playoffs, got rid of their coach(s), and ended up drafting 13th.
Dolphins ended up 10-6, no playoffs, kept their coaches, and draft 20th.
NOW WE BOTH KNOW THAT WE'D OF RATHER MADE THE PLAYOFFS, but since that didn't happen, who ended up in a better position for next year?
Again, I'm not arguing who was a better team this year, the Dolphins were...but who ended up with a more beneficial position for next year?
and as far as me not showing up for a few days afterward(on my vacation no less:lol: ), did that make you angry?...did you cry?...did I ruin your day?...sure seems like it. If the absence of my presence really affects you this way I suggest you seek help, or find a new obsession.

Now, are you going to answer my question, or are you going to write another novel?

Whatever you do, give me the cliff notes version this time, cause I ain't interested.

CirclingWagons
01-11-2004, 09:45 PM
and as far as my predictions...who cares? It's the nature of the fan to predict his team to win. You wanna see something hilarious, look at the Houston-Miami game predictions thread...they all predicted blowouts...does that mean they were stupid? Nope, just fans being fans.

NYPhinFan
01-12-2004, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
and as far as my predictions...who cares? It's the nature of the fan to predict his team to win. You wanna see something hilarious, look at the Houston-Miami game predictions thread...they all predicted blowouts...does that mean they were stupid? Nope, just fans being fans.
As long as you know and everyone around here knows that you are so full of crap when it comes to your predictions and your guarantees...so when you go blowing out your next asinine post or prediction...we know where it it coming from...and as to your post about the draft...of course the #7 is better than the 20...but it comes off as such sour grapes on your part...ask anyone else...you predict all these smack down beatinbgs...then you just say..oh well...we won anyway because we got a better pick...comes off as ignorant....and you are right..I don't think too highly of someone who knows so little about the game..but pretends he does...then just lays it on fans being fans.

PhinPhreak
01-12-2004, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
Wow, for someone you don't think too highly of I sure do influence you a lot...not only am I in your sig, but you write a paragraph about me in every post:lol:

btw, you still haven't argued back my point with anything but foolish pride.

Now read this very carefully, cause you seem to be misinterpreting it everytime:

Bills finished 6-10, no playoffs, got rid of their coach(s), and ended up drafting 13th.
Dolphins ended up 10-6, no playoffs, kept their coaches, and draft 20th.
NOW WE BOTH KNOW THAT WE'D OF RATHER MADE THE PLAYOFFS, but since that didn't happen, who ended up in a better position for next year?
Again, I'm not arguing who was a better team this year, the Dolphins were...but who ended up with a more beneficial position for next year?
and as far as me not showing up for a few days afterward(on my vacation no less:lol: ), did that make you angry?...did you cry?...did I ruin your day?...sure seems like it. If the absence of my presence really affects you this way I suggest you seek help, or find a new obsession.

Now, are you going to answer my question, or are you going to write another novel?

Whatever you do, give me the cliff notes version this time, cause I ain't interested.

If that was the case Circle then why would the Cards when they had the choice the #1 pick overall or win a meaningles game and move down 3-4 spots in the draft. Chose to try and win the game and lose the #1 pick, I guess not everybody is as excited about failing as you are.

CirclingWagons
01-12-2004, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by PhinPhreak


If that was the case Circle then why would the Cards when they had the choice the #1 pick overall or win a meaningles game and move down 3-4 spots in the draft. Chose to try and win the game and lose the #1 pick, I guess not everybody is as excited about failing as you are. PhinPhreak, as I've stated a million times, WE BOTH WOULD OF RATHER MADE THE PLAYOFFS.:rolleyes:

am I happy about 6-10?...**** no, but no sense in dwelling on it now...besides, GW (and Gilbride soon) are gone, so I'm already excited for next year. We also have a nice draft spot.

Once again, for those who don't seem to grasp it, I would've liked much better to of made the playoffs, but it didn't happen.

CirclingWagons
01-12-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by NYPhinFan

As long as you know and everyone around here knows that you are so full of crap when it comes to your predictions and your guarantees...so when you go blowing out your next asinine post or prediction...we know where it it coming from...and as to your post about the draft...of course the #7 is better than the 20...but it comes off as such sour grapes on your part...ask anyone else...you predict all these smack down beatinbgs...then you just say..oh well...we won anyway because we got a better pick...comes off as ignorant....and you are right..I don't think too highly of someone who knows so little about the game..but pretends he does...then just lays it on fans being fans. So Dolphin fans predicting a win every week are full of crap?...that IS what you are saying, you know. Btw, you're still shying away from my point, that you originally disputed--maybe it's because you know I'm right.:)

NYPhinFan
01-13-2004, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
So Dolphin fans predicting a win every week are full of crap?...that IS what you are saying, you know. Btw, you're still shying away from my point, that you originally disputed--maybe it's because you know I'm right.:)
Number 1 I am not talking about all other Dolphin fans...I am not talking about any other Bills fans...I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU...You are the one who hasn't had a prediction right ...you seem to just pass over that point...sure your draft pick is better than ours....but after all your predictions about all the beating the Bills were going to give everyone...think it is funny how you swiftly change your tune to we won anyway...THAT IS MY POINT...as for knowing you were right?...man...you haven't been close to being right about ANYTHING..ANYTHING...you can't go to WE have the best Defense...to we will shut you guys out...to we still won becuase we got our coach fired and got a better pick...Got it?

NYPhinFan
01-13-2004, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by NYPhinFan

As long as you know and everyone around here knows that you are so full of crap when it comes to your predictions and your guarantees...so when you go blowing out your next asinine post or prediction...we know where it it coming from...and as to your post about the draft...of course the #7 is better than the 20...but it comes off as such sour grapes on your part...ask anyone else...you predict all these smack down beatinbgs...then you just say..oh well...we won anyway because we got a better pick...comes off as ignorant....and you are right..I don't think too highly of someone who knows so little about the game..but pretends he does...then just lays it on fans being fans.
Just in case you seem to have passed this one over....when you are full of crap and hot air...it is hard for anyone to take your points seriously...I am talking specifically about YOUR post..not anyone elses....you seem to use someone elses post as an excuse to be wrong ALL the time

dolfan06
01-15-2004, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by NYPhinFan

Just in case you seem to have passed this one over....when you are full of crap and hot air...it is hard for anyone to take your points seriously...I am talking specifically about YOUR post..not anyone elses....you seem to use someone elses post as an excuse to be wrong ALL the time i guess the line has to start somewhere, its fun to take shots at c-jerk!:D

MarksBrothers85
01-15-2004, 08:13 PM
Unfortunetly circling the wagons, it seems that no matter how high of a draft pick the Bills get, Miami always finds a way to finish higher than Buffalo, it's been the case since your pathetic "glory era" (1988-1993)......just wake up.....BUFFALO BLOWS! It's been that way forever and it will be continue to be that way!

CirclingWagons
01-15-2004, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by MarksBrothers85
Unfortunetly circling the wagons, it seems that no matter how high of a draft pick the Bills get, Miami always finds a way to finish higher than Buffalo, it's been the case since your pathetic "glory era" (1988-1993)......just wake up.....BUFFALO BLOWS! It's been that way forever and it will be continue to be that way! lol...no team has squandered more talent than the Miami Dolphins...your defense is getting old--your core group really showed signs of aging at the end: Thomas, Marion, Bowens, Knight(he just sucks), and Madison(the joke). Your window has closed buddy..your best players are getting older, and your RB has about 2 maybe 3 good years left at the pace you are working him. We, on the other hand, are quite young:D

Marino1983
01-15-2004, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
lol...no team has squandered more talent than the Miami Dolphins...your defense is getting old--your core group really showed signs of aging at the end: Thomas, Marion, Bowens, Knight(he just sucks), and Madison(the joke). Your window has closed buddy..your best players are getting older, and your RB has about 2 maybe 3 good years left at the pace you are working him. We, on the other hand, are quite young:D



Funny how your facts seem to always be so convoluted when concerning the Dolphins c-JERK !!! :huh:

I mean your opinion / opinions about the Dolphins have 0 --- ZERO credibility period .....

Like I always say,, YOU are the "incredible uncredible" of all billy goat fans !

:shakeno:

Marino1983

Phins13
01-15-2004, 08:58 PM
Quite young.......6-10........Cleaning house.....unknown at h.c..................fans that follow the bills that are more interested whats going on with the phins........last winning season was? The rate that your Q.B is getting sacked ...How much longer do you think he will last? I'll GLADLY take my chances with this phin team over anything thats over in Buff.......How about you C.W? Any off-seson predics. to keep me laughing all off-season long? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :sleep: :sleep:

Phins13
01-15-2004, 09:06 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Marino1983
[B]



Funny how your facts seem to always be so convoluted when concerning the Dolphins c-JERK !!! :huh:

I mean your opinion / opinions about the Dolphins have 0 --- ZERO credibility period .....

Like I always say,, YOU are the "incredible uncredible" of all billy goat fans !

:shakeno:

How dare you use the word credibility when reading anything written by C.W!? He stands behind(and hides) everything he writes as long as reality has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!:up: :couch: :laughat:

CirclingWagons
01-15-2004, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Phins13
Quite young.......6-10........Cleaning house.....unknown at h.c..................fans that follow the bills that are more interested whats going on with the phins........last winning season was? The rate that your Q.B is getting sacked ...How much longer do you think he will last? I'll GLADLY take my chances with this phin team over anything thats over in Buff.......How about you C.W? Any off-seson predics. to keep me laughing all off-season long? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :sleep: :sleep: off-season predictions...hmmm, let's see:

Dolphin fans will predict a superbowl win/undefeated season(but what else is new right).
The Fins will add more to the defense then they will to the offense(AGAIN).
The Bills will draft Kellen Winslow in the first round(if the pick is not traded back)
The Fins will lose O-Gun for a 1st rounder(not a 1st and 3rd)...

that's all I have for now..check back later NYPhinphan

Phins13
01-15-2004, 09:13 PM
Now I can bet for sure that everything you just said WILL FOR SURE NOT COME TRUE! dOES THAT MEAN i WON'T HAVE TO READ ANY MORE OF YOUR USELESS WRITING WHEN NONE OF THIS COMES TRUE(you know another vacation when you are too GUTLESS to show your face on this board..........By the way I'm not NYPHINFAN..... just happen to know your M.O as well as he does!!!!

Marino1983
01-15-2004, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
off-season predictions...hmmm, let's see:

Dolphin fans will predict a superbowl win/undefeated season(but what else is new right).
The Fins will add more to the defense then they will to the offense(AGAIN).
The Bills will draft Kellen Winslow in the first round(if the pick is not traded back)
The Fins will lose O-Gun for a 1st rounder(not a 1st and 3rd)...

that's all I have for now..check back later NYPhinphan


:lolcry:

:lol:

:spit:

:roflmao:

Marino1983

CirclingWagons
01-15-2004, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Phins13
Now I can bet for sure that everything you just said WILL FOR SURE NOT COME TRUE! dOES THAT MEAN i WON'T HAVE TO READ ANY MORE OF YOUR USELESS WRITING WHEN NONE OF THIS COMES TRUE(you know another vacation when you are too GUTLESS to show your face on this board..........By the way I'm not NYPHINFAN..... just happen to know your M.O as well as he does!!!! that's why you previously had the same avatars, and just so happen to share the same birthday?:huh:

CirclingWagons
01-15-2004, 09:19 PM
and please...how much you wanna bet some dumbass dolphin fan starts a thread like, "we have a real chance to go undefeated" or some **** like that, sometime before the start of next season. How much?

Phins13
01-15-2004, 09:41 PM
I'll answer both your questions... first, there will be clueless dolphin fans who will make predicts that sound as ridiculous as yours. Making predictions does not give anybody credibility- especially when you have no facts to back up what you write. Secondly, I share the same birthday with NYPhinfan because he is my twin brother. I know this must confuse you to no end to think that two seperate people think you are ignorant when it comes to talking seriously about football. People who blindly predict great things for their team (fins and bills) and disappear when they are wrong have no right to come back and talk smack. Don't think NYPhinfan could have said it any better.

Jaj
01-15-2004, 11:03 PM
I don't think it's real fair to call him out like this. Besides sometimes C-Wag gets a little bit high and goes crazy. He deserves more respect than a gangbanging. He always admits after his lost a beat at least and eats the crow. Comon there are better Bills fans to fry guys. Keep the skillet hot.

dolfan06
01-15-2004, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
off-season predictions...hmmm, let's see:

Dolphin fans will predict a superbowl win/undefeated season(but what else is new right).
The Fins will add more to the defense then they will to the offense(AGAIN).
The Bills will draft Kellen Winslow in the first round(if the pick is not traded back)
The Fins will lose O-Gun for a 1st rounder(not a 1st and 3rd)...

that's all I have for now..check back later NYPhinphan you can take off those rose colored glasses c-jerk, the seasons over!:tongue:

NYPhinFan
01-16-2004, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
and please...how much you wanna bet some dumbass dolphin fan starts a thread like, "we have a real chance to go undefeated" or some **** like that, sometime before the start of next season. How much?
See thats the point that blows my mind...because you see some lud mouth dolphin fan make all these boasts...you feel the need to go ahead and do the same thing????...make these ridiculous predictions then tell people "you can take it to the bank"...like that means something...then when you are wrong(and I mean WRONG)...you say "oh well"
Think the older you get you see that your word actually means something...actually stands for something...other than just trying to be the loudest and most obnoxious....how can anyone take what you say seriously when you come out with all these crazy staements..then come back with..."well dolphin fans say worse"...think we all try to show that we love football and know out teams and like to be considered credible...but some of us take our "word" as something more than just shooting off hot air with no repercussions...and by the way...Phins13 is my brother...and we do have the same birthday...not trying to run any scam...lol...too old to worry about that nonsense....but it does not surprise me that you would have thought of it

:lol: :lol:

MarksBrothers85
01-16-2004, 01:42 AM
I'm aware of the age of the defense, but what I am saying is, it seems no matter the circumstance.....the Dolphins consistently do better than the Bills and history to this day backs this point.

CirclingWagons
01-16-2004, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by NYPhinFan

See thats the point that blows my mind...because you see some lud mouth dolphin fan make all these boasts...you feel the need to go ahead and do the same thing????...make these ridiculous predictions then tell people "you can take it to the bank"...like that means something...then when you are wrong(and I mean WRONG)...you say "oh well"
Think the older you get you see that your word actually means something...actually stands for something...other than just trying to be the loudest and most obnoxious....how can anyone take what you say seriously when you come out with all these crazy staements..then come back with..."well dolphin fans say worse"...think we all try to show that we love football and know out teams and like to be considered credible...but some of us take our "word" as something more than just shooting off hot air with no repercussions...and by the way...Phins13 is my brother...and we do have the same birthday...not trying to run any scam...lol...too old to worry about that nonsense....but it does not surprise me that you would have thought of it

:lol: :lol: Your brother?...aww, that's touching. Well, at least together you make 2 balls:lol:

CirclingWagons
01-16-2004, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by MarksBrothers85
I'm aware of the age of the defense, but what I am saying is, it seems no matter the circumstance.....the Dolphins consistently do better than the Bills and history to this day backs this point. but, like the Bills, they consistently go nowhere...believe me, I will give you guys props if you actually make it far(atleast the AFC Championship game), but till then, I still talk smack, regardless of how bad my team is doing. Look at it as me laughing about your underachievement.

CirclingWagons
01-16-2004, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Jaj
I don't think it's real fair to call him out like this. Besides sometimes C-Wag gets a little bit high and goes crazy. He deserves more respect than a gangbanging. He always admits after his lost a beat at least and eats the crow. Comon there are better Bills fans to fry guys. Keep the skillet hot.

I appreciate it jaj, but don't worry about it. If NYPhinPhan(and his supposed brother) really have that much of a hard on for me, then don't deprive them of the pleasure...let them continue their redundant posts--I mean, does anyone really think i read their whole post anyways?...You get by the first sentence and all you read is "blah blah blah--BORING." I got an idea for you guys: If you're gonna keep saying the same thing, don't bother rewording it, just do the ol' copy and paste--it'll save you the time.

NYPhinFan
01-16-2004, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
Your brother?...aww, that's touching. Well, at least together you make 2 balls:lol:
Spoken like a true 20yr old guy who has no clue ...but thats ok....wouldn't expect you to do or say anything else that would make any sense...for someone who doesn't read any of the posts...you sure do answer all of them...go on predicting and guaranteeing all your garbage....hiding any little clue you have about football.

NYPhinFan
01-16-2004, 10:45 AM
You know what CW...I am getting tired of this back and forth...aren't you?..If you want to talk smack and all that stuff..feel free...but I will just ignore it...but if you want to tell me about the Bills...would really get into some of your thoughts...stuff I don't know about them...thats the reason why I come to this board...to get Phin info and maybe some info about some of our rivals...so let me know what your thoughts are about the following.....
What was up with your o-line this year?...was it just R brown or did they have problems in other areas?
Is Bledsoe going to QB for another year or are they looking in another direction?
Can Rueben Brown play at all anymore or he is just playing on rep?
What positions are they looking to draft or upgrade in FA?
What guys are they looking to resign and what guys are they going to let go?

These are the things I like to hear about...so if you can help me out with these...great...if you just want to talk smack...have fun...but smack never really interested me.....and the Bill info would be interesting

CirclingWagons
01-16-2004, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by NYPhinFan
You know what CW...I am getting tired of this back and forth...aren't you?..If you want to talk smack and all that stuff..feel free...but I will just ignore it...but if you want to tell me about the Bills...would really get into some of your thoughts...stuff I don't know about them...thats the reason why I come to this board...to get Phin info and maybe some info about some of our rivals...so let me know what your thoughts are about the following.....
What was up with your o-line this year?...was it just R brown or did they have problems in other areas?
Is Bledsoe going to QB for another year or are they looking in another direction?
Can Rueben Brown play at all anymore or he is just playing on rep?
What positions are they looking to draft or upgrade in FA?
What guys are they looking to resign and what guys are they going to let go?

These are the things I like to hear about...so if you can help me out with these...great...if you just want to talk smack...have fun...but smack never really interested me.....and the Bill info would be interesting I will happily lend you my opinion on that matter. The Bills O-line looked horrible in pass protection because of Gilbride's playcalling, and Bledsoe's tendency to hold onto the rock too long. Ruben Brown is the worst lineman we have. In fact, I can't remember a game where he wasn't called for holding or false start.

Our #1 priorities in Free agency should be DE and WR...that's all we're really missing. OL additions wouldn't hurt, but they should get much better with Jim McNally coaching that unit. I hope to god we resign Antoine Winfield--he's our only major FA. This is Bledsoe's last chance here IMO...if he can return to 2002 form we'll be fine, if it's 2003 form, we're screwed.

dolfan06
01-16-2004, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
I will happily lend you my opinion on that matter. The Bills O-line looked horrible in pass protection because of Gilbride's playcalling, and Bledsoe's tendency to hold onto the rock too long. Ruben Brown is the worst lineman we have. In fact, I can't remember a game where he wasn't called for holding or false start.

Our #1 priorities in Free agency should be DE and WR...that's all we're really missing. OL additions wouldn't hurt, but they should get much better with Jim McNally coaching that unit. I hope to god we resign Antoine Winfield--he's our only major FA. This is Bledsoe's last chance here IMO...if he can return to 2002 form we'll be fine, if it's 2003 form, we're screwed. if i want your opinion i'll give it to you!:D :tongue:

NYPhinFan
01-17-2004, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
I will happily lend you my opinion on that matter. The Bills O-line looked horrible in pass protection because of Gilbride's playcalling, and Bledsoe's tendency to hold onto the rock too long. Ruben Brown is the worst lineman we have. In fact, I can't remember a game where he wasn't called for holding or false start.

Our #1 priorities in Free agency should be DE and WR...that's all we're really missing. OL additions wouldn't hurt, but they should get much better with Jim McNally coaching that unit. I hope to god we resign Antoine Winfield--he's our only major FA. This is Bledsoe's last chance here IMO...if he can return to 2002 form we'll be fine, if it's 2003 form, we're screwed.
Now that is a post I can take something from....I always thought R Brown was overrated and now alot of Bills fans agree...and I do agree about A winfield...think he is a super corner....Bledsoe did not show me much...if he plays like last year you guys will be in trouble...thanks for the info.

Marino1983
01-17-2004, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by CirclingWagons
I will happily lend you my opinion on that matter. The Bills O-line looked horrible in pass protection because of Gilbride's playcalling, and Bledsoe's tendency to hold onto the rock too long. Ruben Brown is the worst lineman we have. In fact, I can't remember a game where he wasn't called for holding or false start.

Our #1 priorities in Free agency should be DE and WR...that's all we're really missing. OL additions wouldn't hurt, but they should get much better with Jim McNally coaching that unit. I hope to god we resign Antoine Winfield--he's our only major FA. This is Bledsoe's last chance here IMO...if he can return to 2002 form we'll be fine, if it's 2003 form, we're screwed.


:jawdrop:


First time for this !!

You must be in some terrible pain after posting this c-JERK ....

Because the TRUTH must really HURT !!!!:yes:


:tongue2:

:wave:

Marino1983

Marino1983
01-17-2004, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by dolfan06
if i want your opinion i'll give it to you!:D :tongue:


:up:


Marino1983