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WVDolphan
08-11-2011, 11:31 PM
I wouldve drafted Mallett at 15 and not looked back. He couldve come in and started day 1. The guy gets the ball out quick and throws lasers on a dime. ****ing beast.

Belichick is such a genius he will probably get a **** ton of early round picks for Brady within the next two years and just start beasting people with Mallett.

What a bunch of morons we have running this team. They couldnt recognize QB talent if it smacked them in the face with a pin point frozen rope of a pass.

But, wait, I know. If we hadnt drafted Pouncey, Mallett wouldve gotten killed because of our OL and he wouldve never done anything here. Yea yea yea, whatever. Because we all know you cant draft good centers in mid rounds or anything. You need those picks to find QBs. :rolleyes2:

A few of us were on board. I know Vaark and I tried to tell you guys Mallett is the goods.

Mallett > Pouncey and Henne combined
Matty Ice > Long and Henne combined

Smith21
08-11-2011, 11:35 PM
even belicheck passed on him 4 times..

Phinatic8u
08-11-2011, 11:35 PM
Hoyer>>>>>>>>Mallett, since your basing it off a preseason game against 3rd stringers.

JCane
08-11-2011, 11:35 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2011/08/smh-1.gif

Funky Fin
08-11-2011, 11:36 PM
Thank you Captain hindsight.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2011/08/captain_hindsight1306x220-1.jpg

jnewmant
08-11-2011, 11:36 PM
i was disappointed when we didnt draft mallet, but im not going to start throwing stones at ireland for this until i see mallet play in a real game. keep in mind he wasnt playing against the fins or the jets starting D he was playing against the jags 3rd team.

flynryan15
08-11-2011, 11:36 PM
This thread oughta be fun!

dolpns13
08-11-2011, 11:39 PM
I thought we woulda been smart enough to at least trade up amid snatch him for a steal. Thus regime dies not place a premium on the QB position and that is why they will be gone next year and we will have a shot at luck

Dogbone34
08-11-2011, 11:39 PM
mallet is a natural

ireland blew it

WVDolphan
08-11-2011, 11:40 PM
Hoyer>>>>>>>>Mallett, since your basing it off a preseason game against 3rd stringers.

Im not basing anything off one preseason game. I was all for drafting Mallett at 15 from the jump. Its all in the posts. Go check the archives. Aparently, its a crime to post in a thread older than one month so I cant bump them myself, but they are there.

There was a small group of us who were all about drafting Mallett and said he was the best QB in the draft. I went as far as to say he was the best player available in the whole thing.

Just watch. Give it a few years because Brady is still the man, but Mallett could start for most teams in this league right now. The dude is a natural. And watch the footage from the game, dont just look at stats. Look at the ball placement, tragectory, and velocity on his throws from tonight. He's so much better than Henne right now it makes me sick.

SpurzN703
08-11-2011, 11:40 PM
At least we're familiar with the posters who seem to only have one agenda on this board. It's good to find that info out early so you can know what to expect as we continue on

dolpns13
08-11-2011, 11:41 PM
i was disappointed when we didnt draft mallet, but im not going to start throwing stones at ireland for this until i see mallet play in a real game. keep in mind he wasnt playing against the fins or the jets starting D he was playing against the jags 3rd team.

Henne still liked horrible against back ups last preseason as well

DolphinChamps
08-11-2011, 11:42 PM
if he is so good why is he 3rd string? preseason means nothing vanilla defenses and offenses hell i could probably complete a few passes myself against the jags third string. their whole 3rd string is like the 22 udfa's they picked up

JCane
08-11-2011, 11:42 PM
Pretty impressive watching Mallett destroy a sandbagged third string defense...for the Jaguars.

Kid has all the physical tools. Has all of the talent in the world. Kid just doesn't have it from the neck up.

SpurzN703
08-11-2011, 11:42 PM
Im not basing anything off one preseason game. I was all for drafting Mallett at 15 from the jump. Its all in the posts. Go check the archives. Aparently, its a crime to post in a thread older than one month so I cant bump them myself, but they are there.

There was a small group of us who were all about drafting Mallett and said he was the best QB in the draft. I went as far as to say he was the best player available in the whole thing.

Just watch. Give it a few years because Brady is still the man, but Mallett could start for most teams in this league right now. The dude is a natural. And watch the footage from the game, dont just look at stats. Look at the ball placement, tragectory, and velocity on his throws from tonight. He's so much better than Henne right now it makes me sick.

You can't say Mallett is better than Henne now....then ask us to wait a few years....to then reiterate that Mallett is already better than Henne again.

WVDolphan
08-11-2011, 11:42 PM
Thank you Captain hindsight.

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2011/08/captain_hindsight1306x220-1.jpg

Yea, it was all hindsight. Do some research before you make false statements. This is why I should be able to bump any post I want......people like this guy who suggest I only say this after the fact. And besides, its just a preseason game. Like I said, I dont base this off a meaningless preseason game. Just look at the throws though. Thats what its about. Not the stats or the level of competition. Look at the ****ing throws. Mallett is a god damned natural.

rent this space
08-11-2011, 11:43 PM
I was on board with Mallet, but let's be honest: John Beck looked great in preseason too

Fintastic2124
08-11-2011, 11:43 PM
Damn guys....aren't there enough of these threads already? Just give it up. Either stand by Henne and this team or stop watching them. Some of you ***** more than my wife.

Phinatic8u
08-11-2011, 11:43 PM
Im not basing anything off one preseason game. I was all for drafting Mallett at 15 from the jump. Its all in the posts. Go check the archives. Aparently, its a crime to post in a thread older than one month so I cant bump them myself, but they are there.

There was a small group of us who were all about drafting Mallett and said he was the best QB in the draft. I went as far as to say he was the best player available in the whole thing.

Just watch. Give it a few years because Brady is still the man, but Mallett could start for most teams in this league right now. The dude is a natural. And watch the footage from the game, dont just look at stats. Look at the ball placement, tragectory, and velocity on his throws from tonight. He's so much better than Henne right now it makes me sick.

I love Mallett as well. But playing well against Jags 3rd stringers isnt impressive. I could do it.

Until he plays a real game against a real defense hes still all hype to me.

JCane
08-11-2011, 11:43 PM
if he is so good why is he 3rd string? preseason means nothing vanilla defenses and offenses hell i could probably complete a few passes myself again the jags third string. their first string isnt even that good

Preseason means NOTHING??

Yeah, that's what everyone told me last year after our third preseason game and I said this was an 8 - 8 team at best. I then pointed out all the problems I seen in preseason...that plagued us throughout the season. Might mean nothing to you...

MiamiDolfan85
08-11-2011, 11:44 PM
jesus,he played against 3rd stringers....Jacksonvilles 3rd stringers at that.



everyone just calm down....

WVDolphan
08-11-2011, 11:44 PM
You can't say Mallett is better than Henne now....then ask us to wait a few years....to then reiterate that Mallett is already better than Henne again.

I only say wait a few years because nobody has a chance to start over Tom ****ing Brady. There are quite a few teams in this league that Mallett could start for right now and then you wouldnt have to wait to see how much better than Henne he is.

xxAQUA JOSHUAxx
08-11-2011, 11:44 PM
Henne tore up the jags 1st team defense in the regular season but mallett does okay against jags 3rd string in the preseason and we blew it?

JCane
08-11-2011, 11:45 PM
Yea, it was all hindsight. Do some research before you make false statements. This is why I should be able to bump any post I want......people like this guy who suggest I only say this after the fact. And besides, its just a preseason game. Like I said, I dont base this off a meaningless preseason game. Just look at the throws though. Thats what its about. Not the stats or the level of competition. Look at the ****ing throws. Mallett is a god damned natural.

Can't say I disagree with this.

:lol: :lol:

Phinatic8u
08-11-2011, 11:48 PM
Mallett may be a natural. But hes to unnatural upstairs to be anything.

DefensiveEnd76
08-11-2011, 11:50 PM
IF Mallet rips apart 1st string defenses in the regular season then I'll be concerned ...until then, who cares what he does against the Jags 3rd stringers in pre-season.

Ricky_Fan34
08-11-2011, 11:50 PM
What's really depressing is that we could've had both Mark Ingram and Ryan Mallett. I was on the Ryan Mallett train too. At this point, I'm fine with rolling with Henne and seeing what happens. Worst case scenario we get a new regime next year. Perhaps even see Mike Nolan as head coach.

I'm pulling for Henne to succeed and become the QB we've seen flashes of, but I was crushed when we passed on Mallett. I can't imagine how pumped I'd be right now if we had Mallett and Ingram...

Funky Fin
08-11-2011, 11:51 PM
Yea, it was all hindsight. Do some research before you make false statements. This is why I should be able to bump any post I want......people like this guy who suggest I only say this after the fact. And besides, its just a preseason game. Like I said, I dont base this off a meaningless preseason game. Just look at the throws though. Thats what its about. Not the stats or the level of competition. Look at the ****ing throws. Mallett is a god damned natural.

Take the stick out from where the sun don't shine before jumping to conclusions. It's all hindsight because we can do **** about it now you dumb ***.

I, for one, agree that we should have taken Mallet, but not before snagging the best all around RB in the draft in Ingram first. Instead we watch Ingram go to the Saints only for them to send off their glass blown 3rd down "specialist" and then watch another could've been future franchise QB slide to one of our biggest division rivals.

BUT it's all in hindsight as we can't change whats already happened. Thanks for wasting our time Mr. Itolduso.

Phins28
08-11-2011, 11:52 PM
Dolphins blew it, F you Ireland.

WVDolphan
08-11-2011, 11:54 PM
Take the stick out from where the sun don't shine before jumping to conclusions. It's all hindsight because we can do **** about it now you dumb ***.

I, for one, agree that we should have taken Mallet, but not before snagging the best all around RB in the draft in Ingram first. Instead we watch Ingram go to the Saints only for them to send off their glass blown 3rd down "specialist" and then watch another could've been future franchise QB slide to one of our biggest division rivals.

BUT it's all in hindsight as we can't change whats already happened. Thanks for wasting our time Mr. Itolduso.

Thats not what hindsight means. Learn the english language before you go around calling people *******s.

CirclingWagons
08-11-2011, 11:55 PM
Mallett's got all the talent in the world, but like others said he's got mental issues. Bill Belichick is the perfect coach for him...I think the kid's got a bright future there. He's taller than Drew Bledsoe for christ's sake, and has a cannon for an arm too. I also like the fact that he played in a real football conference (SEC). No question he's going to be better than Henne.

Dogbone34
08-11-2011, 11:55 PM
it's not about jacksonvilles 3rd string defense

it's about projecting mallet as a starting QB


considering our situation, he looked worth the pick at the draft. his stock didn't drop tonight.

CirclingWagons
08-11-2011, 11:57 PM
All that being said...Mallett would probably be a bad fit in Miami right now...what with the current coaching staff and his blow addiction.

FrankieG
08-11-2011, 11:58 PM
Didn't even have to look at the username to figure out who was posting this.

Funky Fin
08-11-2011, 11:58 PM
Thats not what hindsight means. Learn the english language before you go around calling people *******s.
Don't try and pull that ****. Maybe you just need to work on your reading comprehension.

Hindsight:
recognition of the realities, possibilities, or requirements of a situation, event, decision etc., after its occurrence.

Used in a sentence: "In hindsight, the selection of Mallet over Pouncey would have been a better decision."

At least I answered your previous post in the process. What else do you need help with with, WV?

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:00 AM
Hindsight:
recognition of the realities, possibilities, or requirements of a situation, event, decision etc., after its occurrence.

Used in a sentence: "In hindsight, the selection of Mallet over Pouncey would have been a better decision."

What else do you need help with with, WV?

You don't understand... WV was ****ing driving the Mallett train since February... He's not just some clueless fan that popped up out of nowhere and decided he liked Mallett based off of tonight.

I don't think you realize who you're ****ing with. WV is one of the most well known and respected posters on this whole damned site.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:02 AM
Hindsight:
recognition of the realities, possibilities, or requirements of a situation, event, decision etc., after its occurrence.

Used in a sentence: "In hindsight, the selection of Mallet over Pouncey would have been a better decision."

What else do you need help with with, WV?


Yes, but I proclaimed this before the draft.....using......FORESIGHT! You suggested it was hindsight from me.

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 12:02 AM
What's really depressing is that we could've had both Mark Ingram and Ryan Mallett. I was on the Ryan Mallett train too. At this point, I'm fine with rolling with Henne and seeing what happens. Worst case scenario we get a new regime next year. Perhaps even see Mike Nolan as head coach.

I'm pulling for Henne to succeed and become the QB we've seen flashes of, but I was crushed when we passed on Mallett. I can't imagine how pumped I'd be right now if we had Mallett and Ingram...

Yeah and have nobody to block for either of them.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:03 AM
You don't understand... WV was ****ing driving the Mallett train since February... He's not just some clueless fan that popped up out of nowhere and decided he liked Mallett based off of tonight.

I don't think you realize who you're ****ing with. WV is one of the most well known and respected posters on this whole damned site.

Thanks bro. He shouldve asked somebody. But, you let him know.

Daman379
08-12-2011, 12:03 AM
Mallet has more td's than Henne had in the preseason last year! LMFAO

flynryan15
08-12-2011, 12:03 AM
The kids first 4 drives result in touchdowns? I bet Henne doesn't accomplish that till week 3!

JCane
08-12-2011, 12:05 AM
Grab yo battlegear.

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 12:05 AM
It's PRE-SEASON people. Pre-season doesn't mean jack. You think Mallet would rip our 1st string defense apart??!! I sure as hell don't.

flynryan15
08-12-2011, 12:05 AM
Yeah and have nobody to block for either of them.

God this argument is just LAME!

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:05 AM
Yeah and have nobody to block for either of them.
ahhh this argument. god forbid we could've picked offensive line later in this draft....

JCane
08-12-2011, 12:06 AM
It's PRE-SEASON people. Pre-season doesn't mean jack. You think Mallet would rip our 1st string defense apart??!! I sure as hell don't.

Preseason means a lot actually.

flynryan15
08-12-2011, 12:07 AM
It's PRE-SEASON people. Pre-season doesn't mean jack. You think Mallet would rip our 1st string defense apart??!! I sure as hell don't.

Why not Colt McCoy did it when he needed to for the win!

Funky Fin
08-12-2011, 12:08 AM
You don't understand... WV was ****ing driving the Mallett train since February... He's not just some clueless fan that popped up out of nowhere and decided he liked Mallett based off of tonight.

I don't think you realize who you're ****ing with. WV is one of the most well known and respected posters on this whole damned site.

Actually I know exactly who this whinny know-it-all turd is. I'm not as new as my post count states. I've been around since '07 and I'm closer to the 5,000 range but I changed names.

Also responses to his mostly one sided absurd posts shouldn't be misunderstood for "respected".

DolphinChamps
08-12-2011, 12:08 AM
Preseason means NOTHING??

Yeah, that's what everyone told me last year after our third preseason game and I said this was an 8 - 8 team at best. I then pointed out all the problems I seen in preseason...that plagued us throughout the season. Might mean nothing to you...
right none of these stats count the win doesn't count its all about seeing who makes the cut for the 53 man roster in game situations. right in 2 or 3 offense and defensive possesions that the starters play you predicted the whole season lol. and yes i know in the last game they normally play the whole half but still

flynryan15
08-12-2011, 12:08 AM
ahhh this argument. god forbid we could've picked offensive line later in this draft....

Wait so you are saying you can pick something that isn't cornfed in the first round?

sharp
08-12-2011, 12:08 AM
I wouldve drafted Mallett at 15 and not looked back. He couldve come in and started day 1. The guy gets the ball out quick and throws lasers on a dime. ****ing beast.

Belichick is such a genius he will probably get a **** ton of early round picks for Brady within the next two years and just start beasting people with Mallett.

What a bunch of morons we have running this team. They couldnt recognize QB talent if it smacked them in the face with a pin point frozen rope of a pass.

But, wait, I know. If we hadnt drafted Pouncey, Mallett wouldve gotten killed because of our OL and he wouldve never done anything here. Yea yea yea, whatever. Because we all know you cant draft good centers in mid rounds or anything. You need those picks to find QBs. :rolleyes2:

A few of us were on board. I know Vaark and I tried to tell you guys Mallett is the goods.

Mallett > Pouncey and Henne combined
Matty Ice > Long and Henne combined

Are you kidding me? Hoyer is the much better player, lets trade for him. Evidence with his near perfection before mallet played that high school 3rd string D.

state06
08-12-2011, 12:10 AM
i was all for drafting Mallet, but i am ready to move on. we have what we have now going into the season. if Henne Fails in the new offense, we will have a shot at our QB next offseason

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:11 AM
Actually I know exactly who this whinny know-it-all turd is. I'm not as new as my post count states. I've been around since '07 and I'm closer to the 5,000 range but I changed names.
I'm not going by your post count... I'm going by your join date of June 2011. A name change wouldn't have made that 2011 rather than 2007. So either You've just been a lurker or you're bull****ting.

---------- Post added at 12:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 AM ----------


Wait so you are saying you can pick something that isn't cornfed in the first round?
Stranger things have happened

Phins28
08-12-2011, 12:11 AM
Yeah and have nobody to block for either of them.

:bobdole:

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 12:11 AM
ahhh this argument. god forbid we could've picked offensive line later in this draft....

Yeah and end up with the Joe Toledos for the o-line

ckparrothead
08-12-2011, 12:13 AM
Pretty impressive watching Mallett destroy a sandbagged third string defense...for the Jaguars.

Kid has all the physical tools. Has all of the talent in the world. Kid just doesn't have it from the neck up.

I just can't agree with that. Perhaps if you mean that he made dumb choices, that's true. There are smart people that can make dumb choices. But if you're saying he's not smart and doesn't have a great football IQ then I think you're just dead wrong.

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 12:13 AM
i was all for drafting Mallet, but i am ready to move on. we have what we have now going into the season. if Henne Fails in the new offense, we will have a shot at our QB next offseason

Thank you for being a voice of reason!!! :thanks: :up:

ckparrothead
08-12-2011, 12:13 AM
The kids first 4 drives result in touchdowns? I bet Henne doesn't accomplish that till week 3!

You think Henne accomplishes that at all?

JCane
08-12-2011, 12:13 AM
right none of these stats count the win doesn't count its all about seeing who makes the cut for the 53 man roster in game situations. right in 2 or 3 offense and defensive possesions that the starters play you predicted the whole season lol. and yes i know in the last game they normally play the whole half but still

If you can't sit down and watch a preseason game and evaluate basic things then that's a YOU problem.

Last season, after the THIRD preseason games I said, "Ok...this is an 8-8 team at best. He's what's wrong...this is what I seen from our first stringers...this is this...this is that..."

And what do you know. I nailed it. All the problems we had in the preseason...followed us to the regular season. Imagine that. Watch me do it again this preseason.

ckparrothead
08-12-2011, 12:14 AM
I was on board with Mallet, but let's be honest: John Beck looked great in preseason too

Which preseason?

I don't recall him ever really having a great preseason.

Funky Fin
08-12-2011, 12:15 AM
I'm not going by your post count... I'm going by your join date of June 2011. A name change wouldn't have made that 2011 rather than 2007. So either You've just been a lurker or you're bull****ting.

new account, new email, etc. Not necessarily just a name change.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:16 AM
Yeah and end up with the Joe Toledos for the o-line
That's bad drafting. Not every interior lineman drafted past the 3rd round is ****ty. The success rate for oline past the 3rd round is certainly higher than it is for QBs, I'll tell you that much.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:16 AM
Why didn't WV retire after 10,000 posts? Such a terrible poster.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:16 AM
Let me make this point about all the 3rd string argument people throw out there.

Dont these very same people saying it was Jacksonville's 3rd string look at QBs in college and try to suggest how good they may be in the pros? ****in right they do. Everyone does really.

Point is this............ ANY 3rd string NFL DEFENSE, is better than ANY COLLEGE defense that these QBs will play against. Even the tough defenses Mallett faces in the SEC, even Alabama's defense, cant compete with the talent in the NFL. Even the bottom of the NFL rosters are better than a college unit. Thats why theyre in the NFL. Even the best college defenses have guys on them who cant even sniff a training camp try out in the NFL.

Therefore, to completely throw a performance out of the window because it was against a 3rd string defense is foolish. On top of that, Mallett was playing with NEs third string offense. Its not like he had the starters out there and was just blowing everyone away. His teams talent was bottom of the roster as well. He propelled them to be vastly superior to the competition.

And finally, what do you think the coaches are doing with these games? They are EVALUATING TALENT. They use these games to help them decide who is worthy of staying on the final roster. So while I agree that you cant put a whole lot of stock in what takes place from a team standpoint in a preseason game, you can certainly evaluate individual players and try to project if they are ready for the big time. After all, I think I pretty much made the solid point that these games are a better measuring stick than college games.

One last thing. Before you go talking **** about its just a preseason game, and it is, just still, do yourself a favor. Go find out when this thing is replayed on NFLN. Watch it or record it and watch it later. Watch the dude play. **** the stats. Just watch the throws he makes.

Check out how quickly he gets the ball out. Look at the throws. Look at the ****ing ball placement this kid has. Its unreal. He throws passes at the perfect angles and velocity, hitting the receivers perfectly to give them the best chance to make a play after the catch. Dude throws ****ing lasers on a dime. Thats what I see. Thats what I saw him do in college and thats what I saw him do tonight. Just check it out. Then if you think you would rather have Henne than this kid, just give up on trying to know football.

Ryan Mallett is a god damned BEAST.

And about the coke head comments and he dosent have it above the shoulders etc etc etc. You dont know the kid. Stop acting like you do. Maybe he wouldve already exploded his heart in Miami snorting rails the size of anthills that Vaark snorts. I dont ****ing know. I dont pretend to either. What I do know, is this kid is a god damned natural on the football field. Thats what I know.

Where is Vaark btw. He will tell you fools.

We couldve had Ingram, Mallett, and Moffitt with our first 3 picks. We wouldve dominated everybody. This is 2 different times in the last 3 years if the owner of the phins wouldve given me the GM job, Id have this team a legitimate contender for a hot minute.

ManBearPig
08-12-2011, 12:16 AM
You might not like the argument, but it was the way to go. They went with a lineman in the later rounds last year in John Jerry and hes not even gonna be a starter this year. With Pouncey, they got a sure fire starter day 1.

flynryan15
08-12-2011, 12:17 AM
You think Henne accomplishes that at all?

He could very well ne benched by the Cleveland game. But hey even a blind squirrel finds a nut!

Mr_Freezetag
08-12-2011, 12:17 AM
I was all for Mallett from the get-go.

I thought he had the tools to be the guy. But we didn't take him.

What happens when he becomes mediocre and not great? Would this fanbase just sh%t their pants yet again on blowing another draft because of a non 1st round QB who isn't Marino?

GO Henne. He's our guy right now and he will be successful this year.

Dolphins91
08-12-2011, 12:17 AM
get over it dude...... become a Patriots fan if you like Mallett so much.

ckparrothead
08-12-2011, 12:17 AM
It's PRE-SEASON people. Pre-season doesn't mean jack. You think Mallet would rip our 1st string defense apart??!! I sure as hell don't.

I beg to differ on the "preseason doesn't mean jack" theory.

My studies have indicated that yes, it does mean jack. Guys that do well in preseason don't necessarily do well in the regular season. You're right about that. However, guys that consistently don't do well in the preseason almost never really are franchise type QBs. So Mallett's tearing it up tonight is a nice indicator, especially since he's a rookie and you often see a big difference in a guy's rookie preseason compared with all his preseasons thereafter.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:18 AM
I was on board with Mallet, but let's be honest: John Beck looked great in preseason too

Dont say lets be honest and then follow it with a bold faced lie. John Beck ****ing blew in the preseason just like he did in every other appearance on the field in the NFL.

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 12:19 AM
Preseason means a lot actually.

Pre-season is a time for evaluating what players can make it and what players can't. It's also for fine tuning some things. It's not a true determination of what the team is going to do in the regular season. Too many times there have been teams that have went 0-4 in pre-season and that team was a playoff or Superbowl team when the regular season rolled around. On the flip side there have been many teams who have won all of their pre-season games and they absolutely sucked in the regular season.

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:19 AM
This thread is retarded. Like we were supposed to draft a QB before we have 5 all-pros on the line...Jesus, youd think WV never watched a down of football in his life. YOULL RUIN YOUR QB. JUST LOOK AT MATT RYAN!!!

flynryan15
08-12-2011, 12:19 AM
You might not like the argument, but it was the way to go. They went with a lineman in the later rounds last year in John Jerry and hes not even gonna be a starter this year. With Pouncey, they got a sure fire starter day 1.

Yeah and their free agent linemen suck too! So maybe our oline guru just sucks!

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 12:19 AM
if Henne Fails in the new offense, we will have a shot at our QB next offseason

Which QB did you have in mind? Must be through FA, because you're not going to see a more QB-heavy draft than you saw this year. Dolphins had a chance to grab one of those guys. Instead, they opted not to. Unfortunately for them, they won't suck bad enough to get Andrew Luck and outside of that their options are limited.

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 12:20 AM
get over it dude...... become a Patriots fan if you like Mallett so much.

Amen!! :hump: :up:

klevlandjones
08-12-2011, 12:20 AM
Jump Off Henne D**k!!!!

Mr_Freezetag
08-12-2011, 12:21 AM
Which QB did you have in mind? Must be through FA, because you're not going to see a more QB-heavy draft than you saw this year. Dolphins had a chance to grab one of those guys. Instead, they opted not to. Unfortunately for them, they won't suck bad enough to get Andrew Luck and outside of that their options are limited.

I agree. Even getting a guy in rounds 2-4 would not have solved the issue right away but at the least give us someone to develop.

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 12:21 AM
I will say this...for all the sh*t WV takes from the homers on here, he's right a lot more often than they are.

These are things we know.

ckparrothead
08-12-2011, 12:21 AM
I gotta agree with WV here, it wasn't just stats tonight. Brian Hoyer was stats. Ryan Mallett was talent.

JCane
08-12-2011, 12:21 AM
Pre-season is a time for evaluating what players can make it and what players can't. It's also for fine tuning some things. It's not a true determination of what the team is going to do in the regular season. Too many times there have been teams that have went 0-4 in pre-season and that team was a playoff or Superbowl team when the regular season rolled around. On the flip side there have been many teams who have won all of their pre-season games and they absolutely sucked in the regular season.

Evaluating and fine-tuning...and then you toss out a team's 0 - 4 record like that has any meaning whatsoever.

Eyeballs. That's all I need. I'm prefectly capable of evaluating things with my eyeballs. I don't need horse**** records and box scores that lie to me.

Sirspud
08-12-2011, 12:21 AM
If you can't sit down and watch a preseason game and evaluate basic things then that's a YOU problem.

Last season, after the THIRD preseason games I said, "Ok...this is an 8-8 team at best. He's what's wrong...this is what I seen from our first stringers...this is this...this is that..."

And what do you know. I nailed it. All the problems we had in the preseason...followed us to the regular season. Imagine that. Watch me do it again this preseason.

Some get it and some don't. The final score in a preseason game is fairly meaningless, but there is a ton that can be learned about a team and, more importantly, individual players, by watching the preseason.

You certainly can't and shouldn't annoint pro bowlers based on preseason performance, but I certainly see nothing wrong in watching the Patriots game tonight and admitting that Mallett showed some real talent.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:22 AM
Yeah and have nobody to block for either of them.

I dont understand this statement. Its really complete nonsense. We drafted ONE center. Thats only ONE of the 5 OL spots. Are you saying the rest of our OL is a bunch of nobodies?

Also, the last time I checked, there were numerous FA Centers available as well as countless other interior linemen available in the draft who couldve been had later on. Again, I was big on Moffitt who Seattle is starting at a G spot. They got him in the 3rd or 4th round. IMHO he's a better player than Pouncey anyway. We couldve gotten him and started someone else at C.

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 12:22 AM
[QUOTE=ManBearPig;1063963778]You might not like the argument, but it was the way to go. They went with a lineman in the later rounds last year in John Jerry and hes not even gonna be a starter this year. With Pouncey, they got a sure fire starter day 1.[/QUOTE

That's what I'm talking about!!!

JCane
08-12-2011, 12:22 AM
I will say this...for all the sh*t WV takes from the homers on here, he's right a lot more often than they are.

These are things we know.

And this is exactly the reason he takes so much ****. He's right and they can't stand it. WV and I aren't really seeing eye-to-eye on this whole Mallett kid but that's about it.

DolphinChamps
08-12-2011, 12:23 AM
If you can't sit down and watch a preseason game and evaluate basic things then that's a YOU problem.

Last season, after the THIRD preseason games I said, "Ok...this is an 8-8 team at best. He's what's wrong...this is what I seen from our first stringers...this is this...this is that..."

And what do you know. I nailed it. All the problems we had in the preseason...followed us to the regular season. Imagine that. Watch me do it again this preseason.

im not saying you cannot diagnose things in the preseason im just saying that preseason is mainly for 2nd and 3rd stringers to show what they got in game situations. you cannot base a regular season off the 4 preseason games because these are base offense and defense plays and the real play calling will look nothing like the preseason. if you can base an entire season off the preseason more power to you.

Funky Fin
08-12-2011, 12:23 AM
Mallet is the obvious choice along with Pouncey. There's no way he could have snapped the ball over Mallet's tall ***.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:24 AM
Ryan Mallet threw a passing TD against the 3rd stringers on the 27th ranked pass D. Dude is a BEAST.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:24 AM
Actually I know exactly who this whinny know-it-all turd is. I'm not as new as my post count states. I've been around since '07 and I'm closer to the 5,000 range but I changed names.

Also responses to his mostly one sided absurd posts shouldn't be misunderstood for "respected".

Multiple SNs are a TOS violation here at FH. You are free to change names, but you simply have to ask an admin to do it for you.

Why did you ditch your last SN btw? Were you banned? Or did you just make statements like Beck is going to be awesome if we just give him more time and felt like it was best to wash your hands of it all?

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:25 AM
I dont understand this statement. Its really complete nonsense. We drafted ONE center. Thats only ONE of the 5 OL spots. Are you saying the rest of our OL is a bunch of nobodies?

Also, the last time I checked, there were numerous FA Centers available as well as countless other interior linemen available in the draft who couldve been had later on. Again, I was big on Moffitt who Seattle is starting at a G spot. They got him in the 3rd or 4th round. IMHO he's a better player than Pouncey anyway. We couldve gotten him and started someone else at C.

But now we have two All-Pros on our line. I dont think you can underestimate just how much that means. Chad Henne will never lack for time to hit a LB in the chest.

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 12:25 AM
I dont understand this statement. Its really complete nonsense. We drafted ONE center. Thats only ONE of the 5 OL spots. Are you saying the rest of our OL is a bunch of nobodies?

Also, the last time I checked, there were numerous FA Centers available as well as countless other interior linemen available in the draft who couldve been had later on. Again, I was big on Moffitt who Seattle is starting at a G spot. They got him in the 3rd or 4th round. IMHO he's a better player than Pouncey anyway. We couldve gotten him and started someone else at C.

One of the biggest reasons our o-line sucked last year was because of Berger who was our center. Berger was getting manhandled and our interior running game went nowhere because of it. Why in the heck do you think we drafted Pouncey in Round 1?? An o-line goes nowhere without a good center. And yes we had other o-linemen who stunk too but a good center and left tackle is where you have to start when building up the o-line.

sharp
08-12-2011, 12:25 AM
LOL Hoyer went off more than Mallett did, thats my argument. Now your going to tell me hes an elite prospect because he hit taylor price on a curl, whre the guy makes an excellent play and burns everyone with his 96 madden speed. Or where he hit the wide open HB for the TD?

Couldn't you have waited a couple weeks before boiling your blood to this level of anger?

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:26 AM
Miami should draft QBs in the first three rounds. Throw enough ****, something will stick. It would be worth it to throw away a draft to see the armchair GMs and middle-class talent evaluators shoot a load on their 36" HDTV.

k33vinj
08-12-2011, 12:26 AM
Jump Off Henne D**k!!!!

Mallet balls against scrubs and he gets compared to a starter!!!!lol

MadDog 88
08-12-2011, 12:27 AM
2 franchise QBs passed on in 4 drafts. You can talk all day about how they upgraded the talent but the truth is they failed at the most important position. Twice.

I think it's safe to say that had they drafted Mallet, everyone in here would be on board.

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 12:27 AM
Ryan Mallet threw a passing TD against the 3rd stringers on the 27th ranked pass D. Dude is a BEAST.

:lol2: :lol: :chuckle: :thanks:

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:27 AM
Shoulda doubled up and grabbed Pouncey in the first and Moffit in the 2nd IMO.

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 12:28 AM
2 franchise QBs passed on in 4 drafts. You can talk all day about how they upgraded the talent but the truth is they failed at the most important position. Twice.

I think it's safe to say that had they drafted Mallet, everyone in here would be on board.

As soon as a 300 pound cornfed franchise QB comes along, we will draft him in Round 1.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:28 AM
I just can't agree with that. Perhaps if you mean that he made dumb choices, that's true. There are smart people that can make dumb choices. But if you're saying he's not smart and doesn't have a great football IQ then I think you're just dead wrong.

Get him CK. Wig just hates to see a wig out wig him and have more success as a wig. :lol:

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 12:28 AM
Ryan Mallet threw a passing TD against the 3rd stringers on the 27th ranked pass D. Dude is a BEAST.

Did Henne even orchestrate a first down during last preseason?

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:28 AM
LOL Hoyer went off more than Mallett did, thats my argument. Now your going to tell me hes an elite prospect because he hit taylor price on a curl, whre the guy makes an excellent play and burns everyone with his 96 madden speed. Or where he hit the wide open HB for the TD?

Couldn't you have waited a couple weeks before boiling your blood to this level of anger?
no one here is talking about his stats. It's how fast his release was, how spot on his throws were. I could give a **** about his final statline, it's all about the accuracy and the fast release he showed tonight.

ckparrothead
08-12-2011, 12:29 AM
Basically what tonight is to me is the equivalent of a college all star game. You get all these guys that were really good at a certain level together, they've had about two weeks (instead of one) to learn their systems, now they go out there and put it on the field. It's like a juiced up version of a college all star game. And you know what? You do learn a bunch from guys when you watch them at all star games and practices. It DOES mean something. Colin Kaepernick didn't look very good at his All Star game. Jake Locker didn't. I remember Phil Rivers killed his All Star game though. Carson Palmer did I believe. But of course, so did Reggie McNeal and Pat White. But that doesn't take away that it's a good sign.

And for Mallett, who couldn't go to the Senior Bowl, it was a good opportunity to show what he can do. And he showed it.

Dolphins91
08-12-2011, 12:29 AM
Bro, root for your team.... what a stupid thread.

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 12:30 AM
2 franchise QBs passed on in 4 drafts. You can talk all day about how they upgraded the talent but the truth is they failed at the most important position. Twice.

I think it's safe to say that had they drafted Mallet, everyone in here would be on board.

EXACTLY. The Dolphins ignored their most glaring weakness. Is there really anybody here who would've been upset had the Fins drafted Mallett?

67Stang
08-12-2011, 12:30 AM
Smh

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:31 AM
2 franchise QBs passed on in 4 drafts. You can talk all day about how they upgraded the talent but the truth is they failed at the most important position. Twice.

I think it's safe to say that had they drafted Mallet, everyone in here would be on board.

You just nailed it, in four drafts, where 20+QBs were drafted in the first 2 rounds....two panned out.

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But hey, all you guys are the best talent evaluators in the NFL.

JCane
08-12-2011, 12:31 AM
Bro, root for your team.... what a stupid thread.

Can't comment on other players around the league without giving up love for your team first? What a stupid comment.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:32 AM
You just nailed it, in four drafts, where 20+QBs were drafted in the first 2 rounds....two panned out.

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But hey, all you guys are the best talent evaluators in the NFL.

KEY WORDS: PASSED ON. Guys we had a shot at. No one is complaining that we didn't take Stafford or Josh Freeman...

state06
08-12-2011, 12:33 AM
Which QB did you have in mind? Must be through FA, because you're not going to see a more QB-heavy draft than you saw this year. Dolphins had a chance to grab one of those guys. Instead, they opted not to. Unfortunately for them, they won't suck bad enough to get Andrew Luck and outside of that their options are limited.

I agree i actually liked man of the QB prospects this past draft, with Mallet leading them all.
QB prospects will emerge and the class will begin to look better. think Cam Newton.
if henne fails, Barkley and Jones should be available by the time we pick in rd 1. many people are high on Weeden, although he is old. Foles is also one to watch this season.

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:34 AM
You just nailed it, in four drafts, where 20+QBs were drafted in the first 2 rounds....two panned out.

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But hey, all you guys are the best talent evaluators in the NFL.

wat

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 12:34 AM
I can't believe there's still Henne supporters out there :lol:

MadDog 88
08-12-2011, 12:34 AM
It is nice to have enemy posters in here who understand the game and it's finer workings. I'll happily take that over those who need to remove their breast implants, take off their skirts and drop their pom poms.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:34 AM
KEY WORDS: PASSED ON. Guys we had a shot at. No one is complaining that we didn't take Stafford or Josh Freeman...

And everyone would be happy when we drafted one of the 18 other QBs, until next year, when they suck, then I would have to read 60 threads about why they suck. Armchair GMing it in here. WV is a whole lot of mad.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:35 AM
But now we have two All-Pros on our line. I dont think you can underestimate just how much that means. Chad Henne will never lack for time to hit a LB in the chest.

:lol:

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 12:35 AM
But now we have two All-Pros on our line. I dont think you can underestimate just how much that means. Chad Henne will never lack for time to hit a LB in the chest.

:sidelol:

JCane
08-12-2011, 12:35 AM
I can't believe there's still Henne supporters out there :lol:

If Henne were traded to the Jets or Bills RIGHT NOW this very minute, the Henne supporters would support Henne until they found out about the trade. Immediately after they had information about that deal, they'd be laughing about how stupid the Jets and Bills are to take such an awful backup QB.

JCane
08-12-2011, 12:37 AM
KEY WORDS: PASSED ON. Guys we had a shot at. No one is complaining that we didn't take Stafford or Josh Freeman...

I was actually all about some Josh Freeman. No surprise though.

flynryan15
08-12-2011, 12:37 AM
You just nailed it, in four drafts, where 20+QBs were drafted in the first 2 rounds....two panned out.

---------- Post added at 11:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:31 PM ----------

But hey, all you guys are the best talent evaluators in the NFL.

If that is true we own 10% of those bust! Henne and White!

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:37 AM
And everyone would be happy when we drafted one of the 18 other QBs, until next year, when they suck, then I would have to read 60 threads about why they suck. Armchair GMing it in here. WV is a whole lot of mad.
It's not necessarily about whether or not they pan out, it's about taking that chance on greatness. It's impossible to say if a QB who failed elsewhere would've failed here in Miami... Too many variables. Fact is, this regime does NOT want to take a chance on greatness and take a QB Like Mallett or Ryan

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:39 AM
LOL Hoyer went off more than Mallett did, thats my argument. Now your going to tell me hes an elite prospect because he hit taylor price on a curl, whre the guy makes an excellent play and burns everyone with his 96 madden speed. Or where he hit the wide open HB for the TD?

Couldn't you have waited a couple weeks before boiling your blood to this level of anger?


And did you notice the placement, velocity, and angle of that throw to Price? Did you realize that Price wouldnt have been in position to make that move on the DB had Mallett not thrown him a perfect pass on a dime? Thats what makes a QB an NFL QB. The ability to do this. Thats what Im seeing. NFL talent from Mallett.

And that pass to the wide open HB was more fluid than any checkdown Henne has ever made. It was also placed perfectly and thrown with the perfect velocity giving the HB the ability to catch the ball in stride and heading in the direction he needed to go in order to score with it. Mallett was very decisive on that play and got the ball out quickly allowing the play to develope for a score.

Sirspud
08-12-2011, 12:39 AM
And everyone would be happy when we drafted one of the 18 other QBs, until next year, when they suck, then I would have to read 60 threads about why they suck. Armchair GMing it in here. WV is a whole lot of mad.

It's not just armchair GM's saying Henne sucks. Its everyone except a delusional portion of the fanbase and, sadly, our coaching staff, though I'm not convinced that they think Henne is gonna pan out as much as I think they were too afraid for their jobs to risk it on a rookie and they seriously bungled the veteran QB market out there.

PhinsPhan11
08-12-2011, 12:39 AM
I was actually all about some Josh Freeman. No surprise though.
I definitely underestimated him coming out of KSU. I thought he would be an ok QB, but nothing like he is now. I'd like to have him on my team rather than Henne. Hell, anybody is better than Henne.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:39 AM
It's not necessarily about whether or not they pan out, it's about taking that chance on greatness. It's impossible to say if a QB who failed elsewhere would've failed here in Miami... Too many variables. Fact is, this regime does NOT want to take a chance on greatness and take a QB Like Mallett or Ryan

If you acknowledge that fact, then acknowledge that looking at Mallet doin work in NE and trying to say that Miami should have drafting him because of his success on another team is ****ing ignorant and this thread is just another case of WV dropping a deuce on a keyboard and calling it a revalation

JBinSD
08-12-2011, 12:39 AM
For the love of god, get a life.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:39 AM
I was actually all about some Josh Freeman. No surprise though.
I didn't know much about him at the time, But I certainly liked him more than Sanchez. I don't hate Sanchez just because he's a jet, I've hated him since his USC days. So far, Josh freeman has proved to be the best QB from that class.

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 12:39 AM
If Henne were traded to the Jets or Bills RIGHT NOW this very minute, the Henne supporters would support Henne until they found out about the trade. Immediately after they had information about that deal, they'd be laughing about how stupid the Jets and Bills are to take such an awful backup QB.
:lol:
If the Bills traded for Henne I might go emo and cut myself, tbh.

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:39 AM
If Henne were traded to the Jets or Bills RIGHT NOW this very minute, the Henne supporters would support Henne until they found out about the trade. Immediately after they had information about that deal, they'd be laughing about how stupid the Jets and Bills are to take such an awful backup QB.

truer words havent been spoken since Kanye West got on stage at the VMAs

JC
08-12-2011, 12:40 AM
Lol some people shouldn't be able to post threads.

JCane
08-12-2011, 12:40 AM
Lol some people shouldn't be able to post threads.

I can make a list of those homers if you'd like.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:42 AM
You just nailed it, in four drafts, where 20+QBs were drafted in the first 2 rounds....two panned out.

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But hey, all you guys are the best talent evaluators in the NFL.


And amazingly, the two I was all hyped about wanting the phins to draft were Matt Ryan and Ryan Mallett. One is already established as one of the top QBs in the league. The other just played his first preseason game and looked outstanding.

flynryan15
08-12-2011, 12:42 AM
I can make a list of those homers if you'd like.

Only if you pink them!

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:42 AM
Lol some people shouldn't be able to post threads.

For real. I dont know the last time WV was ever right.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:42 AM
If you acknowledge that fact, then acknowledge that looking at Mallet doin work in NE and trying to say that Miami should have drafting him because of his success on another team is ****ing ignorant and this thread is just another case of WV dropping a deuce on a keyboard and calling it a revalation
Again, what Mallett did tonight is not what this is about. His statline doesn't matter. It was the quick release and the accuracy he showed. Nevermind the fact that he had a good statline, anyone with half a brain knows that statlines only tell half the story. Bad QBs can put up good statlines and vice versa. What Mallett did tonight was just shear talent.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:42 AM
I'm not supporting Henne, but sorry, I'm not a fan of just taking QBs in the first two round for the sake of wasting picks and taking QBs. If your front office doesn't like the QB, then don't take the QB. The fans can stick it with their "just draft anyone" mentality. You don't take risks because the fans ask for it. You listen to the fans, you sit with the fans. Yeah, a FO will make mistakes, and with 10,000 fans making 20,000 predictions, one fan will be correct and claim they are the mother****ing svengali of talent evaluations.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:43 AM
I can't believe there's still Henne supporters out there :lol:

I cant either dude. Its like people around here want our franchise to be as bad as the bills.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:44 AM
Holy ****, WV did what I said someone would do. WV is the svengali of talent evaluators. Congrats, go get a GM gig champ!

Dolphins91
08-12-2011, 12:44 AM
Can't comment on other players around the league without giving up love for your team first? What a stupid comment.

Can't comment on what? How much better Ryan Mallett, who btw hasn't played a single down in a regular season NFL game, is than Chad Henne? Let me go along with your stupidity..... Chris Johnson is better than Daniel Thomas. Or, or Cam Newton is better than Mark Sanchez... who gives a sh1t? Time will tell. I remember all you idiots were the same ppl saying ''Oh man, we shoulda drafted Bady Quinn". Let em play 1 game before you anoint them the next coming of Jesus Christ. And yes, Brady Quinn too was ridiculously good in his rookie pre-season. Get over it.

vaneasy2338
08-12-2011, 12:44 AM
Dude last year you were convinced Aaron Rodgers was overrated. So don't try to tell me about how your some football genius who can evaluate talent off one preseason game. We hear about the things you get right 24/7, but you fail to mention **** like that.

flynryan15
08-12-2011, 12:44 AM
I cant either dude. Its like people around here want our franchise to be as bad as the bills.

They beat us at home!

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 12:45 AM
I'm not supporting Henne, but sorry, I'm not a fan of just taking QBs in the first two round for the sake of wasting picks and taking QBs. If your front office doesn't like the QB, then don't take the QB. The fans can stick it with their "just draft anyone" mentality. You don't take risks because the fans ask for it. You listen to the fans, you sit with the fans. Yeah, a FO will make mistakes, and with 10,000 fans making 20,000 predictions, one fan will be correct and claim they are the mother****ing svengali of talent evaluations.

When Jay Fiedler is the best QB you've had in the past 12 years, I think it's safe to say that taking a chance on a 1st or 2nd rd QB is not out of the question.

sharp
08-12-2011, 12:45 AM
no one here is talking about his stats. It's how fast his release was, how spot on his throws were. I could give a **** about his final statline, it's all about the accuracy and the fast release he showed tonight.
My point here is Hoyer showed the same. Lets trade for him, guy was excellent and decisive.

Oh and Henne blows he cant get a first down. Can I get a thanks and respect now?

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:46 AM
Again, what Mallett did tonight is not what this is about. His statline doesn't matter. It was the quick release and the accuracy he showed. Nevermind the fact that he had a good statline, anyone with half a brain knows that statlines only tell half the story. Bad QBs can put up good statlines and vice versa. What Mallett did tonight was just shear talent.

Do you think Mallet just grew a quick release with accuracy over the past week? No, 32 other teams were aware of that before this thread was made. It's amazing what Petrino does with QBs. Guess how many of those Petrino QBs have panned out in the NFL.

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 12:46 AM
I cant either dude. Its like people around here want our franchise to be as bad as the bills.

tou-che, salesman

Vaark
08-12-2011, 12:47 AM
That night after we blew it a few times passing up Mallett, I posted an angry reactive prediction that this brainfart would come back to haunt the franchise maybe not quite as much as Saban's passing on Rodgers, but at least in the range of Jake vs Ryan. Nothing I saw tonight makes me change my mind. Bad Karma is screwing up the pick and then him ending up in a better place to hone the skills that'll come back to haunt us for years. That's a double whammy!

So while the outside temperature gauge is hovering around 81 with palm trees in the background it may not look or feel like it around here - but still this has gotta be a cold day in hell since I'm actually agreeing with WV :up:

sharp
08-12-2011, 12:47 AM
Dude last year you were convinced Aaron Rodgers was overrated. So don't try to tell about how your some football genius who can evaluate talent off one preseason game. We hear about the things you get right 24/7, but you fail to mention **** like that.

guess im not the only one whos now growing tired of this

Football genuises here crying about the past, obviously most of us were mad we didn't get mallett. No need to keep bringing it up, he hasn't done jack. No one wants the dolphins to suck, posters need to stop crying that because we don't believe Mallett is peyton manning after one preseason game, that we think Henne is great and we love mediocrity.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:47 AM
I'm not supporting Henne, but sorry, I'm not a fan of just taking QBs in the first two round for the sake of wasting picks and taking QBs. If your front office doesn't like the QB, then don't take the QB. The fans can stick it with their "just draft anyone" mentality. You don't take risks because the fans ask for it. You listen to the fans, you sit with the fans. Yeah, a FO will make mistakes, and with 10,000 fans making 20,000 predictions, one fan will be correct and claim they are the mother****ing svengali of talent evaluations.
Well, I don't know about you, but I'm not particularly a fan of having a great team but no QB and therefore being mediocre. yeah, perhaps this FO didn't like Mallett. That's all good and well, but they made no effort to get a QB. No Ricky Stanzi, No TJ Yates, etc. And don't even try to say they took a 'chance' on Devlin. Yeah, Devlin was a good signing, but he isn't coming in here and starting week 1.

It's not the fact that they don't pickt he QB's I want, it's the fact that this FO is afraid to take a chance at greatness.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:48 AM
Dude last year you were convinced Aaron Rodgers was overrated. So don't try to tell about how your some football genius who can evaluate talent off one preseason game. We hear about the things you get right 24/7, but you fail to mention **** like that.

Aaron Rodgers is a ******.

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:50 AM
When Jay Fiedler is the best QB you've had in the past 12 years, I think it's safe to say that taking a chance on a 1st or 2nd rd QB is not out of the question.

Gus Frerotte had a...**** it, nevermind.

Vaark
08-12-2011, 12:50 AM
:lol:
If the Bills traded for Henne I might go emo and cut myself, tbh.

surprised you didn't and are still here after they signed Chan.. and next Wanny :idk:

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:50 AM
Well, I don't know about you, but I'm not particularly a fan of having a great team but no QB and therefore being mediocre. yeah, perhaps this FO didn't like Mallett. That's all good and well, but they made no effort to get a QB. No Ricky Stanzi, No TJ Yates, etc. And don't even try to say they took a 'chance' on Devlin. Yeah, Devlin was a good signing, but he isn't coming in here and starting week 1.

It's not the fact that they don't pickt he QB's I want, it's the fact that this FO is afraid to take a chance at greatness.

This front office did make an effort to get a QB, one a hell of a lot better and much more established than Mallet. Orton would have carried this team through a season or two for Miami to find a QB they liked, bring him in, and groom him in a full offseason. HOW DARE MIAMI NOT DRAFT MALLET AND STICK HIM IN AS A STARTER ROLE WITH 2 WEEKS OF PRACTICE.

Now I know what I spend more time on the Jets forums, the fans are so much more intelligent.

Dolph N.Fan
08-12-2011, 12:51 AM
Bro, root for your team.... what a stupid thread.

He's rooting for his team to get a ****ing clue and go get a QB. Not only do we not have a QB but our O-line is still tore up from the floor up. The line features more failures and ???s than pro bowlers despite constant high picks being constantly wasted on it. The whole "oh go root for this team or that team then" just because someone mentions that team has a better player is so lame. I caught hell last season when I anointed Sam Bradford ahead of Henne. Bradford look like a season veteran at times last season. But I guess I should be a rams fan now.

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:52 AM
And I was the one who started WV going on how Rodgers was overrated. I put him at 3 or 4 overall in the league and he bashed me for it.

tylerdolphin>WVdolphan

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:52 AM
This front office did make an effort to get a QB, one a hell of a lot better and much more established than Mallet. Orton would have carried this team through a season or two for Miami to find a QB they liked, bring him in, and groom him in a full offseason. HOW DARE MIAMI NOT DRAFT MALLET AND STICK HIM IN AS A STARTER ROLE WITH 2 WEEKS OF PRACTICE.

Now I know what I spend more time on the Jets forums, the fans are so much more intelligent.
:bobdole:

Yeah, sorry, I forgot that Orton was winning us superbowls. Even if we had gotten Orton, we still have to draft a QB... With Mallett, there is no guarantees, I get that. The potential is through the roof though.

All that accomplishes is giving up more picks to do the same things and postpone the inevitable.

OyeDale305
08-12-2011, 12:53 AM
matt moore> henne+mallet :/

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:53 AM
:bobdole:

Yeah, sorry, I forgot that Orton was winning us superbowls. Even if we had gotten Orton, we still have to draft a QB... With Mallett, there is no guarantees, I get that. The potential is through the roof though.

Are you ****ing seriously this stupid?

JC
08-12-2011, 12:53 AM
Let me reiterate this...IT IS PRESEASON. I don't care what Mallett looks like against guys that will be bagging groceries for a living. Mallett is a choke artist. He chokes against good teams, and he plays bad against good players. I don't know if you know this, but a regular season game features 11 STARTING defensive players. No **** Mallett could abuse a corner like Benny Sapp. It's ****ing hilarious how people here are sitting on a chair thinking they know more than NFL coaches and scouts. Remember that time you interviewed Mallett before the draft and went to his pro day? ****, I don't remember that either. All of you haters really need to **** off because I'm tired of coming on a FAN forum to find grown men bitching about how Mallett is the second coming of Jesus Christ because he tore up a third string defense in a preseason game. It's ****ing bull****

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:53 AM
He's rooting for his team to get a ****ing clue and go get a QB. Not only do we not have a QB but our O-line is still tore up from the floor up. The line features more failures and ???s than pro bowlers despite constant high picks being constantly wasted on it.

Sad to think how much we have invested in our o-line, and our supposed line guru of a coach still doesnt have that **** together.

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:55 AM
Are you ****ing seriously this stupid?

He said something stupid? Orton would be a nice upgrade but he isnt the answer...so why not invest that pick in someone who could well be through the draft.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:55 AM
Are you ****ing seriously this stupid?
read the post wrong the first time, went back and edited.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:55 AM
So let me get this right

Screw Orton, draft Mallet (a QB we don't like), stick him in with 2 weeks of practice, and let it ride...

or

Pick up Orton, draft a QB next season, let them get in a couple of offseasons and a full season of practice before inserting him in, and then roll.

And your idea is the former. Seriously?

vaneasy2338
08-12-2011, 12:55 AM
Aaron Rodgers is a ******. I hope you are kidding dude. If you watched any of that postseason run the pack had last season, you would realize arron rodgers is now the best quarterback in the league. His ball placement is fantastic, his velocity is fantastic. The deep ball thought to be his main weakness coming into the league is now pretty good. Aaron Rodgers is twice as good as Matt Ryan, and your too agenda-ridden to see it.

BlueFin
08-12-2011, 12:56 AM
Its the same old story, just another QB the Dolphins passed on for the greater glory of drafting another runner or O-lineman.

until this franchise prioritizes the QB position until they find a real QB, it will flounder with no real shot at winning the big one.

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 12:57 AM
Let me reiterate this...IT IS PRESEASON. I don't care what Mallett looks like against guys that will be bagging groceries for a living. Mallett is a choke artist. He chokes against good teams, and he plays bad against good players. I don't know if you know this, but a regular season game features 11 STARTING defensive players. No **** Mallett could abuse a corner like Benny Sapp. It's ****ing hilarious how people here are sitting on a chair thinking they know more than NFL coaches and scouts. Remember that time you interviewed Mallett before the draft and went to his pro day? ****, I don't remember that either. All of you haters really need to **** off because I'm tired of coming on a FAN forum to find grown men bitching about how Mallett is the second coming of Jesus Christ because he tore up a third string defense in a preseason game. It's ****ing bull****

Read this post, scrolled down and saw your sig, laffed. :lol:

Seriously though, we dont need to be a pro scout to give opinions on players. If we did, why the **** discuss football.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:57 AM
Can someone satisfy my curiosity and tell me what happened with the Fins passed of Quinn, I wasn't here.

Vaark
08-12-2011, 12:57 AM
Are you ****ing seriously this stupid?

What makes you think that the 90% of fins fans who want to see Henne gone are brighter than the 90% of Broncos fans who were rooting for even Brady Quinn to replace 60.8 3rd down career QBR, "3 and Out" Orton?? That's like replacing scurvy with shingles.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 12:57 AM
Let me reiterate this...IT IS PRESEASON. I don't care what Mallett looks like against guys that will be bagging groceries for a living. Mallett is a choke artist. He chokes against good teams, and he plays bad against good players. I don't know if you know this, but a regular season game features 11 STARTING defensive players. No **** Mallett could abuse a corner like Benny Sapp. It's ****ing hilarious how people here are sitting on a chair thinking they know more than NFL coaches and scouts. Remember that time you interviewed Mallett before the draft and went to his pro day? ****, I don't remember that either. All of you haters really need to **** off because I'm tired of coming on a FAN forum to find grown men bitching about how Mallett is the second coming of Jesus Christ because he tore up a third string defense in a preseason game. It's ****ing bull****

I know this. One of us acknowledges they are just a fan who happens to be correct most of the time and one of us wrote for bleacher report which is a ****ing joke where fans who dont know **** about the game pretend they are up and coming reporters. Thats what I know.

Im guessing bleacher report didnt give you a plane ticket, press pass, and a meal allowance to go cover any pro days either.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 12:58 AM
So let me get this right

Screw Orton, draft Mallet (a QB we don't like), stick him in with 2 weeks of practice, and let it ride...

or

Pick up Orton, draft a QB next season, let them get in a couple of offseasons and a full season of practice before inserting him in, and then roll.

And your idea is the former. Seriously?
I would have drafted Mallett, yes. That said, even if this FO had taken a chance on... Jake Locker lets say. Perhaps they trade up and snag jake locker because thats who they like. Yeah, that's fine. That's respectable. They had the stones to go get the QB they wanted, when they needed it instead of postponing the whole process while our already really good team ages.

Dolphins91
08-12-2011, 12:59 AM
He's rooting for his team to get a ****ing clue and go get a QB. Not only do we not have a QB but our O-line is still tore up from the floor up. The line features more failures and ???s than pro bowlers despite constant high picks being constantly wasted on it. The whole "oh go root for this team or that team then" just because someone mentions that team has a better player is so lame. I caught hell last season when I anointed Sam Bradford ahead of Henne. Bradford look like a season veteran at times last season. But I guess I should be a rams fan now.

That's not the point that this thread makes. If what you are saying was the thread, then i would agree with it. We do need to invest our highest pick on a QB. But this tard is saying that Ryan Mallet, the guy with as many NFL regular season starts as me, is better than Henne. Lets wait and see before we start anointing the guy Dan Marino.... Brady quinn was a beast in 2007 preseason and every1 was saying the same things and yeah, he sucks. As of right now, Henne is a better NFL quarterback because, well, he has actually played NFL games. Now, will Mallett be better? I don't know. But you'd be stupid to say that you do because you don't.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 12:59 AM
What makes you think that the 90% of fins fans who want to see Henne gone are brighter than the 90% of Broncos fans who were rooting for even Brady Quinn to replace 60.8 3rd down career QBR, "3 and Out" Orton?? That's like replacing scurvy with shingles.


Fan evaluations are srs biz

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 01:00 AM
So let me get this right

Screw Orton, draft Mallet (a QB we don't like), stick him in with 2 weeks of practice, and let it ride...

or

Pick up Orton, draft a QB next season, let them get in a couple of offseasons and a full season of practice before inserting him in, and then roll.

And your idea is the former. Seriously?

Nobody denies (I hope not anyway) that Orton would be an upgrade. I wanted us to get him in a way. But at the same time he would just be yet another stop=gap in our long line of band-aid QBs. Im ****ing tired of it. You and me both know that if Orton came here and played OK, they would continue to draft lineman in the first from now until the aliens came to harvast our bodies and resources.

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 01:01 AM
surprised you didn't and are still here after they signed Chan.. and next Wanny :idk:


I have no problem with Wanny as an assistant or coordinator--in fact I welcome him. As long as he's not making key decisions then showing up to postgame press conferences with his patented shell-shocked look, it's all good.

vaneasy2338
08-12-2011, 01:02 AM
I know this. One of us acknowledges they are just a fan who happens to be correct most of the time and one of us wrote for bleacher report which is a ****ing joke where fans who dont know **** about the game pretend they are up and coming reporters. Thats what I know.

Im guessing bleacher report didnt give you a plane ticket, press pass, and a meal allowance to go cover any pro days either. Dude you aren't correct most of the time. You just think you are. Aaron Rodgers isn't overrated (see playoff run), Chad Pennington wasn't our savior last year (go figure), Fasano is not a good TE, Sean Smith doesn't blow, the Falcons didn't win the super bowl (not even close), and Matt Ryan isn't clutch (see NO monday night game, and two postseason games). You are more knowledgable than most fans on here, but nowhere to the degree you believe you are.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 01:03 AM
I would have drafted Mallett, yes. That said, even if this FO had taken a chance on... Jake Locker lets say. Perhaps they trade up and snag jake locker because thats who they like. Yeah, that's fine. That's respectable. They had the stones to go get the QB they wanted, when they needed it instead of postponing the whole process while our already really good team ages.

If they liked him, I'd have no problem with that. Hell, I have said that Miami should move to get Barkley, but, as I've said, I'm not going to whine if people who've forgotten more about talent evaluation that I'll ever know pass on him. Some fan throwing a dart blinkfolded and predicting a QB doing well isn't going to change the way I look at fans acting like they could do a better job than the people in place.

Vaark
08-12-2011, 01:03 AM
Fan evaluations are srs biz


so are 2011 4th period QBRs that never get out of the 50s :idk:

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 01:03 AM
Dude last year you were convinced Aaron Rodgers was overrated. So don't try to tell me about how your some football genius who can evaluate talent off one preseason game. We hear about the things you get right 24/7, but you fail to mention **** like that.

I dont fail to acknowledge when Im off. It happens. Not nearly as often as when Im dead on, but it happens. Yea, I said Rodgers was overrated in the beginning of last season. Obviously, following that run he put together down the stretch and into the playoffs was ****ing impressive and he made a statement. The guy is one of the elite QBs. But, lets not pretend I said he was a ****ing bum or something. I just said he was overrated. I just got sick of hearing how he was a top 5 QB when until that run last season, he did nothing to warrent that kind of respect.

OK so I missed there. I still had the guy ranked in the upper half of the league. Go ahead and call out all the times I missed. Go look for some more. You will find some. But, clean your loupe after that and look at all the times Ive nailed **** way before hand.

Ive been scorching hot with the draft the last few years. Reality is, had this organization consulted me instead of trusting Parcells and Ireland, we would be in much better shape than we are because Ive crushed those dudes. Thats what I know. And if you want to hate because of it, then go ahead. Keep hating.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 01:04 AM
Fan evaluations are srs biz
you're right, let's just shut down the site as no one here really knows anything about football and we just throw names around. Get real, the NFL is a passion. fanbases watch their own teams more than anyone else. If someone came over here and said that channing crowder was a stud of a ilb, I guarantee 90% of everyone here would tell them, no, actually he is mediocre to average. I assure you the denver fanbase knows better about the type of QB Orton is than we do.

Sirspud
08-12-2011, 01:04 AM
I'm not supporting Henne, but sorry, I'm not a fan of just taking QBs in the first two round for the sake of wasting picks and taking QBs. If your front office doesn't like the QB, then don't take the QB. The fans can stick it with their "just draft anyone" mentality. You don't take risks because the fans ask for it. You listen to the fans, you sit with the fans. Yeah, a FO will make mistakes, and with 10,000 fans making 20,000 predictions, one fan will be correct and claim they are the mother****ing svengali of talent evaluations.

So you think its better to stick with a QB that is called by everyone in the business a steaming pile of ****? Draft someone, sign someone, trade for someone, Henne bombed last year and took the whole team down with him, and picking up a QB wasn't/isn't just a matter of satisfying your fans, it's a matter of it not making any sense not too.

BlueFin
08-12-2011, 01:04 AM
Let me reiterate this...IT IS PRESEASON. I don't care what Mallett looks like against guys that will be bagging groceries for a living. Mallett is a choke artist. He chokes against good teams, and he plays bad against good players. I don't know if you know this, but a regular season game features 11 STARTING defensive players. No **** Mallett could abuse a corner like Benny Sapp. It's ****ing hilarious how people here are sitting on a chair thinking they know more than NFL coaches and scouts. Remember that time you interviewed Mallett before the draft and went to his pro day? ****, I don't remember that either. All of you haters really need to **** off because I'm tired of coming on a FAN forum to find grown men bitching about how Mallett is the second coming of Jesus Christ because he tore up a third string defense in a preseason game. It's ****ing bull****

it's more about how bad our QB situation is than Mallett, Belichek has enough football knowledge to understand the importance of the QB position, so even though he already had a Tom Brady he didn't pass on a Ryan Mallett.

They drafted a QB prospect higher than we did, and we are the QB starved team. The Dolphin leadership is not in Belichek's league and thats what is REALLY GETTING OLD and is bullspit!

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 01:07 AM
If they liked him, I'd have no problem with that. Hell, I have said that Miami should move to get Barkley, but, as I've said, I'm not going to whine if people who've forgotten more about talent evaluation that I'll ever know pass on him. Some fan throwing a dart blinkfolded and predicting a QB doing well isn't going to change the way I look at fans acting like they could do a better job than the people in place.
Let's face it, with this FO, it's not a stretch to say that some on this site could do better than they have. Even if WV had only 1 draft in the Dolphins' FO, I guarantee we would have a promising, young qb. Whether it be Mallett, ryan, etc, WV would have the stones to take a chance on a QB that he likes and hope that he pans out. If he does, we contend for 10 years. If not, we try again.

rev kev
08-12-2011, 01:07 AM
You people throw the term beast far too liberally

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 01:08 AM
So you think its better to stick with a QB that is called by everyone in the business a steaming pile of ****? Draft someone, sign someone, trade for someone, Henne bombed last year and took the whole team down with him, and picking up a QB wasn't/isn't just a matter of satisfying your fans, it's a matter of it not making any sense not too.

No, I think we should have tried to sign Orton, and we did. Didn't work out, we move on.

MiamiDolphins34
08-12-2011, 01:08 AM
Pat Devlin is gonna save our a.sses so its all good.

JC
08-12-2011, 01:08 AM
I know this. One of us acknowledges they are just a fan who happens to be correct most of the time and one of us wrote for bleacher report which is a ****ing joke where fans who dont know **** about the game pretend they are up and coming reporters. Thats what I know.

Im guessing bleacher report didnt give you a plane ticket, press pass, and a meal allowance to go cover any pro days either.

Nowhere in that post did I say anything about me getting a press pass or anything about me being a writer. This thread is a ****ing joke. I agree with you sometimes, but this Mallett bull**** is way off. The point is, I don't sit here and say that I know it all or constantly ***** about the organization that I am a fan of. I don't sit here and say **** about Sparano and Ireland because I know that whatever they are doing would be better than what you or I could do. Show me your wall of football diplomas and I will gladly shut the **** up.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 01:09 AM
Let's face it, with this FO, it's not a stretch to say that some on this site could do better than they have. Even if WV had only 1 draft in the Dolphins' FO, I guarantee we would have a promising, young qb. Whether it be Mallett, ryan, etc, WV would have the stones to take a chance on a QB that he likes and hope that he pans out. If he does, we contend for 10 years. If not, we try again.

Really....REALLLLLLLLLY? No, really, is this a serious post. You on WVs **** like that?

Sirspud
08-12-2011, 01:09 AM
it's more about how bad our QB situation is than Mallett, Belichek has enough football knowledge to understand the importance of the QB position, so even though he already had a Tom Brady he didn't pass on a Ryan Mallett.

They drafted a QB prospect higher than we did, and we are the QB starved team. The Dolphin leadership is not in Belichek's league and thats what is REALLY GETTING OLD and is bullspit!

Bellichek drafts them because he knows he can bring out the best in them and then deal them 2-3 years down the road to a team that is too afraid to just draft their own damn QB's.

BlueFin
08-12-2011, 01:09 AM
I dont fail to acknowledge when Im off. It happens. Not nearly as often as when Im dead on, but it happens. Yea, I said Rodgers was overrated in the beginning of last season. Obviously, following that run he put together down the stretch and into the playoffs was ****ing impressive and he made a statement. The guy is one of the elite QBs. But, lets not pretend I said he was a ****ing bum or something. I just said he was overrated. I just got sick of hearing how he was a top 5 QB when until that run last season, he did nothing to warrent that kind of respect.

OK so I missed there. I still had the guy ranked in the upper half of the league. Go ahead and call out all the times I missed. Go look for some more. You will find some. But, clean your loupe after that and look at all the times Ive nailed **** way before hand.

Ive been scorching hot with the draft the last few years. Reality is, had this organization consulted me instead of trusting Parcells and Ireland, we would be in much better shape than we are because Ive crushed those dudes. Thats what I know. And if you want to hate because of it, then go ahead. Keep hating.

I can honestly say I strongly wanted Brees, a trade for Hasselbeck (back when he was with Green Bay), Aaron Rodgers(over Ronnie Brown), Matty Ice, and I wanted Mallet this year.

I was for gambling on Brady Quinn over Ted Ginn, but we would have lost either way. I've been right about QB's much more often than wrong.

Dolph N.Fan
08-12-2011, 01:09 AM
That's not the point that this thread makes. If what you are saying was the thread, then i would agree with it. We do need to invest our highest pick on a QB. But this tard is saying that Ryan Mallet, the guy with as many NFL regular season starts as me, is better than Henne. Lets wait and see before we start anointing the guy Dan Marino.... Brady quinn was a beast in 2007 preseason and every1 was saying the same things and yeah, he sucks. As of right now, Henne is a better NFL quarterback because, well, he has actually played NFL games. Now, will Mallett be better? I don't know. But you'd be stupid to say that you did because you don't.

Mallet looked nice for his 1st real action playing the NFL. IDK if he's better than Henne but it shouldn't be too hard to surpass him. Henne has played the majority of games in the last couple of preseason's against 2nd and 3rd stringers and still looked average though that may have been the playcalling. I want to see Henne tomorrow (today) before I make any comparisons. If Miami's O-line was stellar I think less Dolphins fans would be pissed about passing on so many QBs. It's hard to have faith in Henne when Sparano doesn't even have faith in him. Hard to support Sparano when the owner doesn't feel he's the guy. I just can't figure how since 2000, Miami has been such mess and basically irrelevant make bad decisions you would think would just be plain common sense.

Joneildu
08-12-2011, 01:09 AM
Nowhere in that post did I say anything about me getting a press pass or anything about me being a writer. This thread is a ****ing joke. I agree with you sometimes, but this Mallett bull**** is way off. The point is, I don't sit here and say that I know it all or constantly ***** about the organization that I am a fan of. I don't sit here and say **** about Sparano and Ireland because I know that whatever they are doing would be better than what you or I could do. Show me your wall of football diplomas and I will gladly shut the **** up.

DUUUUUUUUUUUDE. I read your post, then your sig....then your post....then your sig.

win win win win win

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 01:10 AM
it's more about how bad our QB situation is than Mallett, Belichek has enough football knowledge to understand the importance of the QB position, so even though he already had a Tom Brady he didn't pass on a Ryan Mallett.

They drafted a QB prospect higher than we did, and we are the QB starved team. The Dolphin leadership is not in Belichek's league and thats what is REALLY GETTING OLD and is bullspit!

Exactly. The guy has the best QB in the league and spends picks on QBs while we sign UDFAs and reach for wildcat QBs in round 2 despite having no answer at the position to speak of.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 01:10 AM
Really....REALLLLLLLLLY? No, really, is this a serious post. You on WVs **** like that?
Has nothing to do with being on WVs dick, it's simply that he would've no doubt taken a QB when these clowns failed to.

JCane
08-12-2011, 01:11 AM
Im guessing bleacher report didnt give you a plane ticket, press pass, and a meal allowance to go cover any pro days either.

:lol: :lol:

SQuinn17
08-12-2011, 01:15 AM
I can live with the Pouncey pick, but drafting Daniel Thomas over Mallett was the biggest joke ever.

ckparrothead
08-12-2011, 01:15 AM
This one is for WVDolphan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_6ORRogNWE

Just approach this objectively. Does this mean he's a future Hall of Famer? Course not. Does it even mean he's a good quarterback? No. Does it mean the Dolphins are going to rue the decision(s) to pass on him like they rue Saban's decision to go with Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees? Absolutely not. It's a preseason game, basically a juiced up version of a college All Star Game.

But ask yourself this question: he looked pretty good, didn't he?

This is what I want Chad Henne to look like this preseason. I'm not saying he won't. I'm saying that if Ryan Mallett can do this with guys like Taylor Price, Darnell Jenkins, Stevan Ridley, Will Yeatman and Buddy Farnham...Chad Henne should be able to do similar with Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess, Anthony Fasano and Reggie Bush.

Preseason is a lot more significant for a QB than people realize. Every time you go out on the field and you are in command of an offense, you have the opportunity to look good. I don't care if it's a new system. All those guys that Mallett played with tonight were mostly new to New England's system, they don't know that system any better than Miami's veterans will know Daboll's system.

I'm just saying, Chad Henne, step up to the plate. Prove guys like myself and WVDolphan wrong. There's nothing wrong with that. The easiest answer to the QB conundrum would be if the future was already on roster.

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 01:16 AM
Has nothing to do with being on WVs dick, it's simply that he would've no doubt taken a QB when these clowns failed to.

But the QBs he would have picked would have surely failed here given our lack of 1st round picks on the line.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 01:17 AM
Come to think of it, you guys might get to watch Mallett throw some TDs vs our first string defense. If they blow us out like they did last year on our own field, Brady will be on the bench in the 4th qtr.

JCane
08-12-2011, 01:17 AM
Can't comment on what? How much better Ryan Mallett, who btw hasn't played a single down in a regular season NFL game, is than Chad Henne? Let me go along with your stupidity..... Chris Johnson is better than Daniel Thomas. Or, or Cam Newton is better than Mark Sanchez... who gives a sh1t? Time will tell. I remember all you idiots were the same ppl saying ''Oh man, we shoulda drafted Bady Quinn". Let em play 1 game before you anoint them the next coming of Jesus Christ. And yes, Brady Quinn too was ridiculously good in his rookie pre-season. Get over it.

You just went way out in left field, bro.

Ryan Mallett is better than Henne. Chris Johnson is better than Daniel Thomas. Mark Sanchez is better than Cam Newton, Chad Henne, or Ryan Mallett.

Never once did I say we should definitely draft Brady Quinn. I did say that Brady Quinn would have been a better pick. But let me guess..."WHAT HAS BRADY QUINN DONE?!"

Nothing. What has Henne done? Let me guess..."HENNE NEEDS MORE TIME!"

Right lol.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 01:18 AM
But the QBs he would have picked would have surely failed here given our lack of 1st round picks on the line.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Like you said earlier, 5 all pros or bust. Everyone knows QBs can't play well behind ****ty lines, just look at aaron rodgers :rolleyes:

SkapePhin
08-12-2011, 01:20 AM
I really don't look forward to hearing about this bull**** for the next decade... I hope Mallett is out of the league in 5 years, for my sanity.

BlueFin
08-12-2011, 01:21 AM
Come to think of it, you guys might get to watch Mallett throw some TDs vs our first string defense. If they blow us out like they did last year on our own field, Brady will be on the bench in the 4th qtr.

Maybe thats what it will take to change the mindset of this organization, apparently watching QB's they passed over win Superbowls isn't enough of a wakeup call..................?

JCane
08-12-2011, 01:22 AM
I really don't look forward to hearing about this bull**** for the next decade... I hope Mallett is out of the league in 5 years, for my sanity.

So you're saying there's no hope that we draft a legitimate player fully capable of playing the QB position within the next five years. I don't have a lot of hope for this front office either but c'mon!

:lol:

Vaark
08-12-2011, 01:22 AM
You just went way out in left field, bro.

Ryan Mallett is better than Henne. Chris Johnson is better than Daniel Thomas. Mark Sanchez is better than Cam Newton, Chad Henne, or Matt Ryan.

Never once did I say we should definitely draft Brady Quinn. I did say that Brady Quinn would have been a better pick. But let me guess..."WHAT HAS BRADY QUINN DONE?!"

Nothing. What has Henne done? Let me guess..."HENNE NEEDS MORE TIME!"

Right lol.

just FWIW, Henne actually has a better pro record than Saban....but then again, aside from screwing the pooch on Rodgers, Saban realized he was in over his head and slithered out of town.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 01:23 AM
I really don't look forward to hearing about this bull**** for the next decade... I hope Mallett is out of the league in 5 years, for my sanity.
If we ever get a damned QB, this will all go away. Until then, all we can do is speculate at what could've been had our FO had the stones to take a chance on a franchise QB.

A&O
08-12-2011, 01:24 AM
When the FO looks in the mirror all they see is stupid.

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 01:25 AM
Cant wait til next year when we pass on QBs again to shore up the line or get a LB or something :bobdole:

Thats why we are mad. Its not like they passed on this one dude that they werent high on. They do it every ****ing year. Its as predictable as the sun rising. We all knew they didnt have the balls to draft or make any move to trade up and get a QB. Get real. Our FO thinks we can win with 5 maulers, 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

vaneasy2338
08-12-2011, 01:25 AM
You just went way out in left field, bro.

Ryan Mallett is better than Henne. Chris Johnson is better than Daniel Thomas. Mark Sanchez is better than Cam Newton, Chad Henne, or Matt Ryan.

Never once did I say we should definitely draft Brady Quinn. I did say that Brady Quinn would have been a better pick. But let me guess..."WHAT HAS BRADY QUINN DONE?!"

Nothing. What has Henne done? Let me guess..."HENNE NEEDS MORE TIME!"

Right lol.:rotfl1::rotfl1::rotfl1::rotfl1:

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 01:26 AM
This one is for WVDolphan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_6ORRogNWE

Just approach this objectively. Does this mean he's a future Hall of Famer? Course not. Does it even mean he's a good quarterback? No. Does it mean the Dolphins are going to rue the decision(s) to pass on him like they rue Saban's decision to go with Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees? Absolutely not. It's a preseason game, basically a juiced up version of a college All Star Game.

But ask yourself this question: he looked pretty good, didn't he?

This is what I want Chad Henne to look like this preseason. I'm not saying he won't. I'm saying that if Ryan Mallett can do this with guys like Taylor Price, Darnell Jenkins, Stevan Ridley, Will Yeatman and Buddy Farnham...Chad Henne should be able to do similar with Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess, Anthony Fasano and Reggie Bush.

Preseason is a lot more significant for a QB than people realize. Every time you go out on the field and you are in command of an offense, you have the opportunity to look good. I don't care if it's a new system. All those guys that Mallett played with tonight were mostly new to New England's system, they don't know that system any better than Miami's veterans will know Daboll's system.

I'm just saying, Chad Henne, step up to the plate. Prove guys like myself and WVDolphan wrong. There's nothing wrong with that. The easiest answer to the QB conundrum would be if the future was already on roster.

Way to come through with the video CK.

For those of you who thought Mallett wasnt athletic enough, take a look at the very first play. That was a great move to side step that defender, avoiding a sack, and delivering a strike. RoboHenne couldnt have made that play. Mallett also made some other nice looking plays with some elusiveness in the pocket as well as some escapability and mobility.

rent this space
08-12-2011, 01:27 AM
Which preseason?

I don't recall him ever really having a great preseason.

you don't remember that scamper into the endzone to seal the win against the Chiefs in 2007?
OK, maybe Beck is a bad example, my point is we've been fooled before. I want to see him do it against guys that won't be working for UPS next month.
again, this is from a guy that wanted Mallet. I'm just not going to crown anyone a franchise QB after one preseason game

JCane
08-12-2011, 01:29 AM
:rotfl1::rotfl1::rotfl1::rotfl1:

Alright, I ****ed that up royally. That was meant to be Ryan Mallett...not Matt Ryan.

In no way is Ryan Mallett better than Matt Ryan lol. My bad.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 01:30 AM
Alright, I ****ed that up royally. That was meant to be Ryan Mallett...not Matt Ryan.

In no way is Ryan Mallett better than Matt Ryan lol. My bad.

Who is. :lol:

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 01:30 AM
Cant wait til next year when we pass on QBs again to shore up the line or get a LB or something :bobdole:

Thats why we are mad. Its not like they passed on this one dude that they werent high on. They do it every ****ing year. Its as predictable as the sun rising. We all knew they didnt have the balls to draft or make any move to trade up and get a QB. Get real. Our FO thinks we can win with 5 maulers, 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

This. With all the QBs to choose from in the draft, the Dolphins ignored them all. We had a draft party at one of my buddy's places, and everyone in the room was trying to guess which QB the Dolphins were going to draft. Needless to say, we were all pretty speechless at the end

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 01:31 AM
210 posts in 2 hours. Yea, my threads definately suck.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 01:32 AM
This FO has the mindset of: Get a really good team and attempt to hide our QB. It doesn't work in this day and age of the NFL.

WVDolphan
08-12-2011, 01:32 AM
This. With all the QBs to choose from in the draft, the Dolphins ignored them all. We had a draft party at one of my buddy's places, and everyone in the room was trying to guess which QB the Dolphins were going to draft. Needless to say, we were all pretty speechless at the end

As longtime phins fans, none of us were shocked when our FO did NOTHING to address the position despite having a starter who was benched last season in favor of a guy who had a shoulder held together with elmers glue all.

Vaark
08-12-2011, 01:33 AM
This. With all the QBs to choose from in the draft, the Dolphins ignored them all. We had a draft party at one of my buddy's places, and everyone in the room was trying to guess which QB the Dolphins were going to draft. Needless to say, we were all pretty speechless at the end

likewise I'm speechless you got "buddies" :idk:

Dolphins91
08-12-2011, 01:34 AM
Never once did I say we should definitely draft Brady Quinn. I did say that Brady Quinn would have been a better pick. But let me guess..."WHAT HAS BRADY QUINN DONE?!"

Nothing. What has Henne done? Let me guess..."HENNE NEEDS MORE TIME!"

Right lol.

Pops, I never advocated Henne. Ryan Mallet has not done 1 thing in the NFL..... He did good in a practice game.

I agree that we need an upgrade at QB - but stop with this Mallet sh1t. It's tired.

Built2Win
08-12-2011, 01:36 AM
3teamers ok but how many times
have you heard of a qb in his first start throw 4 touchdowns in one half
it is unheard of and to think we could have got him for peanuts is mind boggling..

Henne better be good this year !!

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 01:36 AM
As longtime phins fans, none of us were shocked when our FO did NOTHING to address the position despite having a starter who was benched last season in favor of a guy who had a shoulder held together with elmers glue all.

Hey, we really pushed Henne to earn his job this year though. After a grueling battle with Matt Moore and Kevin OÇonnell, he came out on top. Im optimistic. Competition breeds success.

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 01:37 AM
likewise I'm speechless you got "buddies" :idk:

:lol: going to personal attacks because you know I'm right.

If you wanna play that game, then tell your girlfriend she broke her vegan diet when she swallowed my load.

Vaark
08-12-2011, 01:38 AM
:lol: going to personal attacks because you know I'm right.

If you wanna play that game, then tell you're girlfriend she broke her vegan diet when she swallowed my load.

since when is Mark Sanchez my GF? (and last I looked this didn't appear to be beast of the east section)

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 01:39 AM
:lol: going to personal attacks because you know I'm right.

If you wanna play that game, then tell your girlfriend she broke her vegan diet when she swallowed my load.
Don't think he was disputing that you're right, I think he was simply adding fuel to the fire of a division rivalry.

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 01:41 AM
(and last I looked this didn't appear to be beast of the east section)

last I looked, I was talking about the thread topic.

kud
08-12-2011, 01:47 AM
I don't know but Mallett is a cool name.

moonman
08-12-2011, 01:49 AM
Did you see that pocket awareness in the Mallett thread? Henne has literally never shown any of that and he's been in the NFL. Henne seems incapable of having more than one read even though apparently he doesn't even pay attention to the rush. That has to change or we're just going to see more of the same from him.

Mallett looked confident. Almost as if he knew wtf he was doing out there. What a concept.

tylerdolphin
08-12-2011, 01:58 AM
I don't know but Mallett is a cool name.

Just think of all the promotional opportunities the Pats can cash in on once he hits it big with that name.

DefensiveEnd76
08-12-2011, 01:58 AM
Don't whine too much or Ireland will draft a QB in every round of the draft in 2012

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 02:00 AM
Don't whine too much or Ireland will draft a QB in every round of the draft in 2012
If he's here. And at this point, that might be what we need. If we don't find a QB soon, we're going to waste one hell of a talented team.

MarshallFin1
08-12-2011, 02:01 AM
Im happy with the pouncey pick, if pouncey turns out to be an elite center and henne turns out to be a good qb we eliminated 2 birds with 1 stone, if henne doesnt pan out to be a good nfl qb than we go back to the drawing board and try to find a qb with our 1st rounder next year.

CirclingWagons
08-12-2011, 02:02 AM
If he's here. And at this point, that might be what we need. If we don't find a QB soon, we're going to waste one hell of a talented team.

2001-2003 all over again

ckparrothead
08-12-2011, 02:02 AM
Ryan Mallett goes out there and has a 100+ QB Rating, leads all three of the drives he actually participated in to touchdowns...c'mon folks. You knew this thread was coming. It would have been coming either way. If Mallett was 5 of 13 with 2 interceptions, this thread still would have been here, but instead of started by WVDolphan, it would have been started by Nublar7.

moonman
08-12-2011, 02:02 AM
And the TD on that curl pattern? Easy to just chalk it up to to the receiver. The truth is if that ball is delivered with anything other than god-like timing it's just a simple completion. Mallett has been working with these guys for a couple weeks and he is already showing that kind of timing. Nice looking footwork and a nice, quick release, too. Dammit.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 02:02 AM
2001-2003 all over again
you got it

moonman
08-12-2011, 02:04 AM
And the TD on that curl pattern? Easy to just chalk it up to to the receiver. The truth is if that ball is delivered with anything other than god-like timing it's just a simple completion. Mallett has been working with these guys for a couple weeks and he is already showing that kind of timing. Nice looking footwork and a nice, quick release, too. Dammit.


My bad, it wasn't the TD. What I said still applies.

finomenal
08-12-2011, 02:06 AM
So let me get this right

Screw Orton, draft Mallet (a QB we don't like), stick him in with 2 weeks of practice, and let it ride...

or

Pick up Orton, draft a QB next season, let them get in a couple of offseasons and a full season of practice before inserting him in, and then roll.

And your idea is the former. Seriously?

You forgot the "give a 2nd round pick" and "pay Orton Kevin Kolb money" which is what was reported, and yes I know that could be false, but still....giving up a 2nd round pick for an above average QB is not a smart move.

JCane
08-12-2011, 02:11 AM
Pops, I never advocated Henne. Ryan Mallet has not done 1 thing in the NFL..... He did good in a practice game.

I agree that we need an upgrade at QB - but stop with this Mallet sh1t. It's tired.

LMAO @ Pops.

:lol: :lol:

BARF
08-12-2011, 02:11 AM
the funny thing is 2 drafts, when they had a chance to get franchise qbs, and they went with o line, the bad thing the second time around they got it wrong

sixzero
08-12-2011, 02:18 AM
You guys are going to make me watch this game...

k33vinj
08-12-2011, 02:31 AM
BY FARRRR THE DUMBEST THREAD EVERRRR. Idiots are saying we missed on mallet and he never threw a ball against a 1st team. If he was soooo good why didnt he get 1st team reps cause brady didnt play. The way some of you are talking it sounds like your about to join the patriots. PLEASE GOO!!!

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 02:34 AM
BY FARRRR THE DUMBEST THREAD EVERRRR. Idiots are saying we missed on mallet and he never threw a ball against a 1st team. If he was soooo good why didnt he get 1st team reps cause brady didnt play. The way some of you are talking it sounds like your about to join the patriots. PLEASE GOO!!!
not about the statline, champ.

thefranchisedef
08-12-2011, 02:38 AM
you know this is the same guy who said henne is better than beck.. that beck would never make it, and would probably be out of the league in a couple of seasons. I wish i could go back and quote him but, it wont let us go that far.. lets haterz hate...

flplaydoh
08-12-2011, 02:43 AM
Your completely rite!!! I was won of the biggest fans to root for us to get Mallett on here for obvious reasons (AR fan) but the thing is we could have gotten him in the ****ing 3rd ROUND and still have gotten Gates!!! What the ****!!!

flplaydoh
08-12-2011, 02:46 AM
Im happy with the pouncey pick, if pouncey turns out to be an elite center and henne turns out to be a good qb we eliminated 2 birds with 1 stone, if henne doesnt pan out to be a good nfl qb than we go back to the drawing board and try to find a qb with our 1st rounder next year.

The problem is that Mallett was there for the taking in the third!

flplaydoh
08-12-2011, 02:55 AM
Anybody with any sense of football period could have looked at his college game film and stats in the ****ing SEC (best conference in college football). And realized that the kid is a beast, not to mention that he was already in a pro style offense in Michigan and at Arkansas with two very good coaches!!! It further emphasizes that our front office sucks at recognizing talent!!! It broke my heart when we let him go to the ****ing PATS of all teams!!!

You that call some of us fans on here haters will be the same ones crying about QB play when Henne takes the field!!! (I hope I am wrong and Henne pulls it all together but I doubt it)

Roonnette
08-12-2011, 03:29 AM
get over it dude...... become a Patriots fan if you like Mallett so much.

I did, and I think all you should too if you like football. Go Mallett! and go Ridley! Dolphins can't even draft a RB worth a cr.ap. Dolphins blow.

dlockz
08-12-2011, 03:34 AM
Anybody with any sense of football period could have looked at his college game film and stats in the ****ing SEC (best conference in college football). And realized that the kid is a beast, not to mention that he was already in a pro style offense in Michigan and at Arkansas with two very good coaches!!! It further emphasizes that our front office sucks at recognizing talent!!! It broke my heart when we let him go to the ****ing PATS of all teams!!!

You that call some of us fans on here haters will be the same ones crying about QB play when Henne takes the field!!! (I hope I am wrong and Henne pulls it all together but I doubt it)

Well i think we should have got Mallet for all he fell but every nfl gm did pass on mallet multiple times so we are hardly any more stupid than anyone else in this matter. We are stupid for not going after someone though.

Ricky_Fan34
08-12-2011, 03:36 AM
I did, and I think all you should too if you like football. Go Mallett! and go Ridley! Dolphins can't even draft a RB worth a cr.ap. Dolphins blow.
Damn, I can't believe you really left. I don't understand how it's the same, rooting for a different team. Even if I tried, I just couldn't be as into it.

Funky Fin
08-12-2011, 03:37 AM
What a minute, I just realized we did draft a QB. Daniel Thomas!

Thomas >>> Mallet >>>Henne.

This thread can now be deemed null and void.

Super Bowl here we come.

regency
08-12-2011, 03:38 AM
I did, and I think all you should too if you like football. Go Mallett! and go Ridley! Dolphins can't even draft a RB worth a cr.ap. Dolphins blow.
i was born in miami so im a miami dolphin fan, period. i like rooting for a team that represents my city and my birthplace, but im sure you wouldnt understand something like that. i have more respect for boston pats fans then you filthy bandwagon jumpers.

Roonnette
08-12-2011, 04:21 AM
Well i think we should have got Mallet for all he fell but every nfl gm did pass on mallet multiple times so we are hardly any more stupid than anyone else in this matter. We are stupid for not going after someone though. -

That is exactly the dumb thinking that made me leave dumb Dolphins and their fan base. Being mediocre and dumb just like most is unacceptable and not an excuse. A lot of NFL GMs do not know sh.it, leading the pack is one sitting in Davie.

Drafting a QB in the first round like Barkley next year or anyone else for the sake of drafting a QB is unacceptable. Drafting or picking up just any QB for the sake of hoping he pans out like Devlin and adding depth is unacceptable. Counting on finding a QB in free agency like Matt Moore for peanuts or Orton for $30 mil guaranteed over drafting Mallet is unacceptable.

There was only one QB Dolphins should have taken this year, and that is Mallet in the draft, he's got talent, he's a natural, and comes cheap, and he is better than any player Dolphins could have or did draft. This is not hindsight, this was evident in November and December last year, it was evident in the months leading up to the draft, it was evident on the draft day, it is evident today.

There was only one decision that made sense, that was self evident. and Dolphins failed again.

The Dolphins blow, they do not know football. They should not be in the business of football. Consequently, the fan base gets peddled dumb information through media that's in bed with the dumb Dolphins organization, and everyone quacks the same dumb song and a dance excuses for this pathetic excuse for an organization.

All the arguments against Mallet are dumb, he does not have it upstairs, Belichick passed on him til the fourth, he played against 3rd stringer Jaguars, All teams passed on him til fourth--dumb. This was a no brainer, and it is unacceptable it was not done.

kud
08-12-2011, 04:29 AM
Damn, I can't believe you really left. I don't understand how it's the same, rooting for a different team. Even if I tried, I just couldn't be as into it.

I can't believe he admitted to rooting for the Patriots cause they drafted Mallett. Sacrilege. Go kick rocks kid. patsfans.net is calling.

dlockz
08-12-2011, 04:38 AM
-

That is exactly the dumb thinking that made me leave dumb Dolphins and their fan base. Being mediocre and dumb just like most is unacceptable and not an excuse. A lot of NFL GMs do not know sh.it, leading the pack is one sitting in Davie.

Drafting a QB in the first round like Barkley next year or anyone else for the sake of drafting a QB is unacceptable. Drafting or picking up just any QB for the sake of hoping he pans out like Devlin and adding depth is unacceptable. Counting on finding a QB in free agency like Matt Moore for peanuts or Orton for $30 mil guaranteed over drafting Mallet is unacceptable.

There was only one QB Dolphins should have taken this year, and that is Mallet in the draft, he's got talent, he's a natural, and comes cheap, and he is better than any player Dolphins could have or did draft. This is not hindsight, this was evident in November and December last year, it was evident in the months leading up to the draft, it was evident on the draft day, it is evident today.

There was only one decision that made sense, that was self evident. and Dolphins failed again.

The Dolphins blow, they do not know football. They should not be in the business of football. Consequently, the fan base gets peddled dumb information through media that's in bed with the dumb Dolphins organization, and everyone quacks the same dumb song and a dance excuses for this pathetic excuse for an organization.

All the arguments against Mallet are dumb, he does not have it upstairs, Belichick passed on him til the fourth, he played against 3rd stringer Jaguars, All teams passed on him til fourth--dumb. This was a no brainer, and it is unacceptable it was not done.


Well like I said every GM passed on this guy. Dont mean they are not wrong but it does mean that it was not clearly evident to them he was a stud. I dont see what we could have lost by trading up to get him though.

thefranchisedef
08-12-2011, 05:08 AM
-

That is exactly the dumb thinking that made me leave dumb Dolphins and their fan base. Being mediocre and dumb just like most is unacceptable and not an excuse. A lot of NFL GMs do not know sh.it, leading the pack is one sitting in Davie.

Drafting a QB in the first round like Barkley next year or anyone else for the sake of drafting a QB is unacceptable. Drafting or picking up just any QB for the sake of hoping he pans out like Devlin and adding depth is unacceptable. Counting on finding a QB in free agency like Matt Moore for peanuts or Orton for $30 mil guaranteed over drafting Mallet is unacceptable.

There was only one QB Dolphins should have taken this year, and that is Mallet in the draft, he's got talent, he's a natural, and comes cheap, and he is better than any player Dolphins could have or did draft. This is not hindsight, this was evident in November and December last year, it was evident in the months leading up to the draft, it was evident on the draft day, it is evident today.

There was only one decision that made sense, that was self evident. and Dolphins failed again.

The Dolphins blow, they do not know football. They should not be in the business of football. Consequently, the fan base gets peddled dumb information through media that's in bed with the dumb Dolphins organization, and everyone quacks the same dumb song and a dance excuses for this pathetic excuse for an organization.

All the arguments against Mallet are dumb, he does not have it upstairs, Belichick passed on him til the fourth, he played against 3rd stringer Jaguars, All teams passed on him til fourth--dumb. This was a no brainer, and it is unacceptable it was not done.

who else thinks this bandwagon fan has a mental disorder? 32 teams, including the pats thought it was a no brainer... smh.. brock berlin looked pretty damn good too in preseason... lmao