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DolphinDevil28
01-13-2004, 01:29 AM
Carolina go to hell! Carolina go to hell!


Go Duke!!!

(that was for TarHeelPhinfan. :)

TarHeelPhinfan
01-13-2004, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
Carolina go to hell! Carolina go to hell!


Go Duke!!!

(that was for TarHeelPhinfan. :)

Dude, maybe you got the wrong board? We're talking 'phins here.

Btw, the only hell you're gonna see is when Felton and gang whack you're pansy dukies!

DolphinDevil28
01-13-2004, 01:39 AM
Oh come on man, it was a little harmless smack about the greatest rivalry in college sports.

Felton...HA! Duke ain't #2 in the Nation for nothing. Have you seen Luol Deng yet???

Noland
01-13-2004, 01:40 AM
Duke go to hell! Duke go to hell! Duke go to hell!





NORTH CAROLINA TARHEELS #1!!!!!!!!!!

TarHeelPhinfan
01-13-2004, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Noland
Duke go to hell! Duke go to hell! Duke go to hell!





NORTH CAROLINA TARHEELS #1!!!!!!!!!!

Now that was well said!!! :)

DolphinDevil28
01-13-2004, 01:45 AM
HAHAHAHA Just wait till the tarHELLS have to come to Cameron!!!

"Let's go Devils!!"


"Carolina go to hell" fits way better than Duke go to hell.

Noland
01-13-2004, 01:57 AM
thank you TarHeelFinfan


Puke is a good team more depth. just wait till they come to Dean Smith Center Roy Williams the best coach in any sport will have them ready.

Coach K is pretty close I respect him he is a great coach 2.

DolphinDevil28
01-13-2004, 02:01 AM
LOL. You mean Roy "choke" Williams??

"I don't give a $hit about North Carolina."

Man that was hilarious. I bet he still feels the same way!!


LET'S GO DEVILS!!!

CirclingWagons
01-13-2004, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
LOL. You mean Roy "choke" Williams??

"I don't give a $hit about North Carolina."

Man that was hilarious. I bet he still feels the same way!!


LET'S GO DEVILS!!! My favorite was when my terps smacked up roy and his chokin' Hawks in the final four:D

TarHeelPhinfan
01-13-2004, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
LOL. You mean Roy "choke" Williams??

"I don't give a $hit about North Carolina."

Man that was hilarious. I bet he still feels the same way!!


LET'S GO DEVILS!!!

What he meant to say was that he doesn't give a $hit about "Durham," North Carolina.

O.K. That's enough BS. Take it to the smack forum and see if anybody cares what you have to say about Duke there. Good night, all!!!

Noland
01-13-2004, 02:09 AM
I don't give a sh-t about Duke. Roy Williams did not choke you can get that sh[t out of your mind he had them ready to play but the other team was more talented. Have you ever learned respect for other people. I said something nice about a coach that plays for Duke the team I hate worse and you say something that retarded. Look at his record and percentage best in the nation.

CirclingWagons
01-13-2004, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Noland
I don't give a sh-t about Duke. Roy Williams did not choke you can get that sh[t out of your mind he had them ready to play but the other team was more talented. Have you ever learned respect for other people. I said something nice about a coach that plays for Duke the team I hate worse and you say something that retarded. Look at his record and percentage best in the nation. Roy is a nice guy, but he's been acknowleadged as a choker...he himself poked fun at it with that "monkey off the back" postgame conference a few years ago.

Maryland and Syracuse were just better teams though, I agree, so i'll retract my statement about them choking in that game.

but it was the 96 or 98 team, the one with LaFrentz and Paul Pierce that lost in the 2nd round to rhode island, that will go down as a big, big choke...that 98 team was insane

DolphinDevil28
01-13-2004, 02:18 AM
Noland, I like Roy, but I just had to put that in response to your "best coach in any sport" comment.

Come on.

Noland
01-13-2004, 02:24 AM
You can coach you can't play for them what is this just go to the terps or duke form. Nothing gets undermy skin worse thatn someone talks about my favorite teams. I don't say nothing mean about nobody's team or coach unless they start something.


Coach K is great...........compliment

Coach Gary Williams great........compliment

And the only thing yall can say about Williams that he chokes

I could talk mean abot both teams but I have more respect than that.

You get pissed of if someone gets real persona about the Bills

CirclingWagons
01-13-2004, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by Noland
You can coach you can't play for them what is this just go to the terps or duke form. Nothing gets undermy skin worse thatn someone talks about my favorite teams. I don't say nothing mean about nobody's team or coach unless they start something.


Coach K is great...........compliment

Coach Gary Williams great........compliment

And the only thing yall can say about Williams that he chokes

I could talk mean abot both teams but I have more respect than that.

You get pissed of if someone gets real persona about the Bills
Roy Williams is great........compliment...Gary had to deal with the same naysayers till he won it, so don't take it as an attack.

and you can say whatever you want about the Bills...they deserved it for this year

DolphinDevil28
01-13-2004, 02:30 AM
Jeez, don't even get started on our football teams. They both deserved it this year.

Carolina is a good team and Williams is a good coach. Sorry if you can't take a little harmless smack that's all in fun.

Noland
01-13-2004, 02:32 AM
It would still make you mad win the bills were winning and someone says I hate the Bills Marv Levy sucks thurman Thomas sucks Jim Kelly sucks Bruce smith sucks And Marv is a choke

No dis respect Just examples I think they all are great.

CirclingWagons
01-13-2004, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by Noland
It would still make you mad win the bills were winning and someone says I hate the Bills Marv Levy sucks thurman Thomas sucks Jim Kelly sucks Bruce smith sucks And Marv is a choke

No dis respect Just examples I think they all are great. I see your point Noland. I respect Roy Williams a lot, and hopefully someday he can get that true monkey off his back--just not at the expense of my Terps though:)

DolphinDevil28
01-13-2004, 02:48 AM
I respect Roy, but in no means whatsoever do I hope he gets the monkey off his back. I cannot see carolina win it all. That would suck.

CirclingWagons
01-13-2004, 02:55 AM
I like football

Noland
01-13-2004, 02:56 AM
I know what you mean I would hate to see Duke win to its a rivalry thing. No dis to you. You cant like duke if you are carolina And you cant like carolina if you are a duke fan. Most of the time it is haterd

I dont like to talk mean about Duke to Fan of Duke that gets under there skin because it gets undermine when someone talks about carolina or Miami or Dale Earnhardt sr. or jr. and Kevin Harvick
Makes me mad for someone to talk about the Braves to

I am just a sports fan an I take it to heart.

DolphinDevil28
01-13-2004, 02:58 AM
I hear ya, I'm the same way. But trust me, being a huge Duke fan, I'm used to it.

I like the Earnheardts too, btw.

Noland
01-13-2004, 03:07 AM
Let not talk no more about the two rivarlies it tears my nerves up.
I am in to my teams to much to hear that kind of stuff. I use to almost fight when I was in school because of that. I have learned to calm down a little.

SMadison29
01-13-2004, 04:01 PM
Kentucky is the team to beat in college b-ball. Duke always chokes & UConn is overrated.

DolphinDevil28
01-13-2004, 04:30 PM
"Kentucky is the team to beat in college b-ball. Duke always chokes & UConn is overrated."



:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Talk about irony! I could have sworn I heard Kentucky was the best LAST year. Didn't they get BLOWN OUT by Marquette when they were supposed to win it all??? Who always chokes???

GO DUKE

SMadison29
01-15-2004, 01:15 AM
Duke always chokes.

I can't believe you're a Duke fan. That's almost as bad as being a Yankee fan.

DolphinDevil28
01-15-2004, 01:16 PM
Duke does not choke more than Kentucky.

And why do so many hate Duke? Please tell me. Do they have an a-hole running the team like Steinbrenner? No. They are extremely classy, and they win. Coach K is about as classy as it gets, they have an extremely high graduation rate. You never hear about a Duke kid getting in trouble or violating some rule. They never have punks on their team. They win with class. If they were a bunch of cocky snobs, I could understand. But I really think the reason so many dislike them is because they are jealous.

I REALLY want to hear your answer to this question. There is no reason to hate Duke. They are the epitome of class and are clearly the best basketball program in America.

CirclingWagons
01-15-2004, 07:25 PM
Terps baby!...beat UNC 90-84...after Tech our next victim will be the Dukies on 1/21:evil:

DolphinDevil28
01-15-2004, 09:03 PM
Hey CW, believe me, I was a huge Terps fan last night. I'm so glad they beat unc. It's gonna be a hell of a game next Wed. night.

But do you agree with my last post? There is no reason to hate Duke, they win, and they are classy! What the hell???

CirclingWagons
01-15-2004, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
Hey CW, believe me, I was a huge Terps fan last night. I'm so glad they beat unc. It's gonna be a hell of a game next Wed. night.

But do you agree with my last post? There is no reason to hate Duke, they win, and they are classy! What the hell??? Very true...Coach K is as classy as they come...look no further than the 92 regionals in the tournament(the laettner game), where he publicly applauded Kentucky's effort, and told UK's players to keep their head up. He is one of the classiest winners in all of sports--but he'll still lose in 6 days:evil:

DolphinDevil28
01-16-2004, 12:05 AM
Yeah, yeah whatever. I'm just glad you aren't one of those Duke-o-phobes that hates them just because they are the best.


Oh yeah, Duke 76, NC State 57. Duke now rolling at 13-1, 3-0 in ACC.

After we beat Wake Saturday, the showdown is set for Wed. night.

DolphinDevil28
01-19-2004, 04:13 PM
14-1, 4-0 ACC.

Go Duke.

SMadison29
01-21-2004, 02:56 AM
Duke will fall to the almighty Terps.


FEAR THE TURTLE BABY!!

CirclingWagons
01-21-2004, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by SMadison29
Duke will fall to the almighty Terps.


FEAR THE TURTLE BABY!! Damn right!!!:beerbang:

DolphinDevil28
01-21-2004, 03:45 PM
Hey SMad, you change colors quickly, huh? Didn't you tell me the other day that Kentucky was the best???

Didn't they lose to GEORGIA!!!???? LOL! AT HOME???? LOL!!!

And I'm not denying Maryland has a great chance of winning. They always play Duke tough at College Park.

But, Duke is the best right now. My Devils are rolling baby!

LET'S GO DUKE

SMadison29
01-21-2004, 04:25 PM
Kentucky is still the best. The basketball season is long. There's still plenty of time for Duke to fall on their face.

DolphinDevil28
01-21-2004, 06:11 PM
Keep wishing my friend.

All I know is Duke would crush Georgia anytime, anywhere.

Kentucky is the best...in the SEC East. That's it.

Duke is number one!

SMadison29
01-22-2004, 12:08 AM
Damn, Duke got lucky tonight.

CirclingWagons
01-22-2004, 12:24 AM
damn...we almost got you guys....
congrats DD28

DolphinDevil28
01-22-2004, 05:00 PM
LOL! "Duke got lucky tonight" PLEASE!

Thanks for the congrats, CW. Don't think that Gary won't have the Terps ready for the rematch at Cameron. Even though the Crazies will be nuts, Maryland will still put up a good game.

meanwhile, Duke 15-1, 5-0 ACC! "LET'S GO DEVILS!"

CirclingWagons
01-22-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
LOL! "Duke got lucky tonight" PLEASE!

Thanks for the congrats, CW. Don't think that Gary won't have the Terps ready for the rematch at Cameron. Even though the Crazies will be nuts, Maryland will still put up a good game.

meanwhile, Duke 15-1, 5-0 ACC! "LET'S GO DEVILS!" Maryland will get killed at Cameron

DolphinDevil28
01-22-2004, 11:12 PM
Hey, you said it, not me!:lol:

SMadison29
01-22-2004, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
Hey, you said it, not me!:lol:

He meant Maryland will kill Duke at Cameron.





Who do you think was the better shooter, Langdon or Reddick?

DolphinDevil28
01-23-2004, 01:43 AM
As good as Trejan Langdon was, Redick is the second best shooter in all of basketball behind Peja Stojakovic.

JJ "DYNOMITE!"

DolphinDevil28
01-24-2004, 03:58 PM
WOOHOO!

Crushing Georgetown on the road 48-24 at halftime right now. Smad, I'm still waiting for the mighty Blue Devils to fall on their face!

And don't say it's going to happen against Carolina. They have no idea what they're in for when they play Duke.

LET'S GO DUKE!!!

SMadison29
01-24-2004, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
As good as Trejan Langdon was, Redick is the second best shooter in all of basketball behind Peja Stojakovic.

JJ "DYNOMITE!"

Well you haven't seen me shoot :)

I think Langdon was better. If & when he got his feet square to the basket the shot was going down. Reddick, at least last year, wasn't clutch at all.

DolphinDevil28
01-26-2004, 01:08 AM
Did you see the ACC Championhip game last year? Redick personified clutch in that game. And remember, last year was only his freshman year. He will only get better and better.

But you have a hell of a debate because they can both shoot lights.


Oh, btw...16-1, 5-0 ACC, #1 team in America!

GO DUKE

SMadison29
01-26-2004, 03:02 AM
Helluva a game today between Dallas & Suckramento. The better team won ;)

DolphinDevil28
01-26-2004, 02:56 PM
The home team won against a bored team who is still waiting for their best player to return.

I'm not worried about the Kings. They'll be in the West finals.

CirclingWagons
01-26-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
The home team won against a bored team who is still waiting for their best player to return.

I'm not worried about the Kings. They'll be in the West finals. they'll be in the west finals, walking off their home court in defeat--like clockwork:D

DolphinDevil28
01-26-2004, 06:52 PM
Hey, where have you been CW?

I saw the Terps beat Clemson last night. I don't care who it is, a win in the ACC is huge.

CirclingWagons
01-26-2004, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
Hey, where have you been CW?

I saw the Terps beat Clemson last night. I don't care who it is, a win in the ACC is huge. I've been here DD;)

True, we'll take any ACC win...gonna be tough for Maryland to make the tourney this year...

DolphinDevil28
01-26-2004, 11:13 PM
With their schedule strength, their RPI rating should boost them in. Besides, you know Gary will have them better later in the year. They're so young.

SMadison29
01-27-2004, 02:59 AM
Maryland is just too young right now. They've had a lot of good seniors over the years(Booth, Profit, Morris, Ekezie, Baxter, Dixon, Nichols, & Blake) but there's literally nobody left. Wilcox should have stayed.

DolphinDevil28
01-27-2004, 01:25 PM
SMad, what's it going to take for you to admit Duke is the best?

Nobody is even close to their level of play right now. I think they'll only have one loss, MAYBE two in the ACC.

DolphinDevil28
01-30-2004, 03:34 PM
Whew, that was close. That was the worst game Duke played this year besides the early Purdue loss. Thank God our senior leader stepped up and hit that huge shot. Way to go Chris.

Duke 17-1, 6-0 ACC, #1 in USA.

SMadison29
02-01-2004, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
SMad, what's it going to take for you to admit Duke is the best?

Nobody is even close to their level of play right now. I think they'll only have one loss, MAYBE two in the ACC.

SMadison29
02-01-2004, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
SMad, what's it going to take for you to admit Duke is the best?

Hell freezing over.

DolphinDevil28
02-02-2004, 04:23 PM
Well, it's about to start getting cold down there. So get ready to talk.

18-1, 7-0 ACC, #1 in the Country!!!

GO DUKE

DevilInPgh
02-03-2004, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
Carolina go to hell! Carolina go to hell!


Go Duke!!!

(that was for TarHeelPhinfan. :)

DolphinDevil, remember this about the Holes:

Oh, they're bastards born and bastards bred
and when they die they'll be bastards dead

So piss on Carolina 'lina
Piss on Carolina 'lina
Piss on Carolina 'lina
Go to hell State!!

GTHC, GTH!!!

DolphinDevil28
02-04-2004, 03:54 AM
LOL!

Who's ready for an a$$whoopin' Thursday night??!!

LET'S GO DEVILS

SMadison29
02-04-2004, 04:10 AM
Kentucky pulled off a close one tonight over Florida. Knocked them out of the top 25.

DolphinDevil28
02-04-2004, 04:03 PM
Duke would obliterate Kentucky.

DolphinDevil28
02-06-2004, 02:15 AM
Whoo Baby, My Devils are rollin'!

Carolina might not even want to show up when the rematch is played in Cameron.

TarHeelPhinfan
02-07-2004, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
Whoo Baby, My Devils are rollin'!

Carolina might not even want to show up when the rematch is played in Cameron.

Didn't know this thread was moved here but I'm glad to respond to your ridiculous statement. Carolina will be there, you can count on that, and you had better bring you're "A" game and that little bit of luck you needed to get past us last night. You're Dookies played well enough to win so congrats are in order but considering Duke has a bit more talent on their squad this year, they should have won. That's what being favored is all about. That said, I won't shed a tear when somebody, maybe UNC, knocks them off in March.



And why do so many hate Duke? Please tell me. Do they have an a-hole running the team like Steinbrenner? No. They are extremely classy, and they win. Coach K is about as classy as it gets, they have an extremely high graduation rate. You never hear about a Duke kid getting in trouble or violating some rule. They never have punks on their team. They win with class. If they were a bunch of cocky snobs, I could understand. But I really think the reason so many dislike them is because they are jealous.


I'll be happy to answer you're question. While coach K is a great coach and the university has committed to growing a great basketball program, (they had to out of necessity 'cause everyone else in the conference would beat the hell out of them every year if they didn't) they are, in essence, a snobby private school that charges $30,000 year tuition. Sure they get great players, they should since they offer high-dollar prestigious scholarships that most schools can't compete with and that is a main reason why they are able to recruit on a national level. You should call him “Coach 30K.” Duke uses this leverage to influence the cream of the crop. People hate them for that and the fact that what they call tradition goes way, way back to the 1980's maybe the 1970's at best. Their fan base is mostly bandwagon jumpers who got aboard with coach K in the 1980-90's. Most of them never came close to attending Duke, or if they did, grew up someplace other than North Carolina (They don't mockingly call it the college of New Jersey for nothing). Duke is indeed impressive on the court but I really don’t see how anyone can identify with them unless they were rich enough to go there. To be accurate, they should change the nickname from the “Blue Devils” to the “Blue-bloods.”

Hell man, the entire school has only been around since the 1930's (UNC was est. in 1789 and has been winning at basketball since the 1920's). UNC and most of the other ACC schools for that matter, have more tradition in their little finger than Duke has in its entirety. Duke fans think that this little bit of success they’ve had equals all the tradition of schools like UNC, Kentucky and Kansas. That is why people hate them so. Duke may have a few national championships but that does not come close to the success that many others, including UNC, can boast about. Duke has an admittedly beautiful campus with part of it done in a gothic style, but even that is a fake. Did you know that they actually poured acid on the concrete to make it look old? What posers!!! They even sell shirts in the school store that read, “Harvard is the Duke of the north.” How arrogant is that? You may want to get one, as it will help identify you to others that you don’t have a clue what “class” is. As far as I’m concerned, Duke has the money to try and buy their tradition and they try real hard to do just that. Their basketball benefits greatly from it. Durham is crappy city with a lot of problems and Duke sits there like an expensive bottle of wine in a biker bar. I know people that went to school there and even they will tell you that Chapel Hill is where they go to have fun and party.

Dean Smith continued a great basketball program in a public university and built a dynasty. He was lucky in that Chapel Hill is a great place to be, it has a beautiful campus, a fabulous academic reputation and deeply rooted traditions. Even without the sports dynasty, UNC represents North Carolina for more than Duke ever can dream of. Carolina’s star is brighter and always will be because it is a university of the people not a university of a bunch of moneyed rich kids. Am I arrogant? You're damn right I am. I graduated from UNC and feel I have the right to be. Whether they attended UNC or not Carolina fans have the right to be proud. They have something to be proud of. Duke fans hate us because, win or lose, we are still, and always will be, greater than Duke regardless of what your hopelessly incorrect equation states. We have the tradition both academically and athletically to prove it and it has been done without charging 30K a year to build it. Hope this answers your question. I'll be happy to elaborate more if you need.

:tongue: :tongueout :tongue:

DevilInPgh
02-07-2004, 03:32 AM
TarHole just spouted propaganda, and now an actual Duke student will spell the truth:

Duke University was originally called Trinity College, a Methodist college which was established in 1843 in Randolph County, NC. In 1892, Washington Duke, the tobacco magnate (who knew back then tobacco was deadly? Just trying to justify his wealth) lured Trinity College to Durham with a generous donation. His son, James B. Duke, left a substantial fortune in his will ($25 million) in 1925 to establish Duke University out of Trinity College (which still exists today as the undergraduate arts and sciences college, as opposed to the Pratt School of Engineering).

Now that you know about Duke's institutional history, let's take a trip down memory lane in sports history. Way before Duke was a basketball power (and that started in the late '50s/early '60s with Jeff Mullins and Art Heyman playing ball, Vic Bubas coaching, and a young Bill Bradley wanting to really come here to play before his father said no, mind you), Duke was a football power under head coach Wallace Wade, who led the Blue Devils to several bowl bids (insert modern Duke football joke here). Two teams particularly stick: the 1938 "Iron Dukes", a defense that was unscored upon until a defense-focused Rose Bowl, in which they lost 7-3 to the USC Trojans (sorry if that's the wrong team, but I'm tired right now and not in the mood to look stuff up), and the 1941-42 team, which played in the only Rose Bowl to be held outside Pasadena (that's right, it was held in Durham due to fears of a Japanese attack). And it was bowl money that built Cameron Indoor Stadium, at one time the largest arena in the Southeast (before the days of the mega-stadiums like the Dean Dome and Rupp Arena).

To respond to the "money" issue, I don't come from what you call "rich". I'm from a middle-class family supported by a self-employed father who is not exactly large on means and saddled with three children with neurological disabilities (of which I am one). Yet Duke managed to give me a generous package with a large grant-in-aid, in addition to some outside scholarships that I won, so that I could focus on my studies rather than on my finances.

And finally, if you want to blast our architecture for trying to re-create a Gothic style, I suggest you do the same to Wake Forest's Winston-Salem campus, built in 1960.

TarHeelPhinfan
02-07-2004, 12:14 PM
Actually Bull$h1tDurham, your truth was not too far from my supposed propaganda. As you stated Trinity College was a small Methodist school that used a lot of private money to morph into what is now Duke University in the 1920’s (I incorrectly said the 30’s). That is what I argued. Duke’s prestige is founded on private money and they still use it greatly to influence everything from the academics to the basketball team. I really don’t care overall, that is just the way it is. DolphinDevil asked, “Why do people hate us so?” and that is part of my answer. I know about the tobacco money influence but can’t too be critical here, as UNC has benefited (at least partly via state taxes) from it as well.

As far as me stereotyping ALL Duke students as children of wealthy snobs is incorrect and I will respectfully amend this. I do know that private schools such as Duke offer scholarships to people with a wide range of backgrounds. My wife was fortunate enough to get one to Meredith College, as you probably know, a private women’s school in Raleigh. Congrats to you for doing the hard work to get into Duke this route. I may be wrong but I don’t feel that is the case for the majority of the students that attend. Duke has an air of snobbery that permeates it. It looks and feels from the outside like an elitist school. Once again, I brought this up because DolphinDevil asked, “Why do people hate us so?”

As far as Duke’s tradition in college sports, your rebuttal essentially confirms what I said. Duke has a weak tradition compared to other universities (the 1950’s is the best you can do in basketball) and as far as the couple of Duke football teams in the 30’s or 40’s go that also isn’t much to hang you hat on. In the 1930’s, Army, Navy and Harvard had great teams too, but like Duke, where are they now? This really isn’t a stellar tradition but to hear the average Duke fan you’d think that they cornered the market on tradition.

This wasn’t a discussion about Wake Forest so therefore I felt no real need to criticize them or their school. Besides the money, Duke benefits mightily from being in the ACC. If they were an Ivy League school, like they seem to want to be, they would be nothing but a footnote in college sports like the other Ivy’s. Frankly, I’m glad they are in the ACC with Carolina. They help they conference dominate nationally in basketball and usually provide an easy victory for us in football (unfortunately this year UNC football could not even capitalize on that). Coach K and Duke have a great program but that still doesn’t change how I and many other duke haters feel about Duke basketball or its fans. They’re still mostly an obnoxious, arrogant crowd that thinks they are way greater than they are. I would be happy to root for them in the NCAA’s when UNC is out to show support for the conference but you guys make this really, really impossible.

DevilInPgh
02-07-2004, 03:29 PM
If they hate because of snobbery, then why don't members of the SEC hate Vanderbilt, or members of the Big 10 hate Northwestern? Is it because they serve as their special b*tches in all sports? You want Duke to lie down and take it like they do? I, and a whole bunch of Duke fans (including Herb Neubauer (T '64), AKA the Crazy Towel Guy), say not without a fight. In football, NC State, Georgia Tech, and the Tar Holes found that out. In basketball, everybody knows it. Heck, if one of your biggest assets in recruiting is the high ranking in the US News and World Report rankings, why not use it? You don't think Notre Dame, Stanford, UVA, and even UNC do?

BTW, Stanford's biggest tradition is screwing up their own games when the band runs onto the field as some Cal player scores on them. In other words, taking it up the a$$.

TarHeelPhinfan
02-07-2004, 05:35 PM
I can’t answer for how other conference schools feel about their elite private schools mixed in amongst their ranks. I am sure, however, that if Vandy put together a solid BB program and their fans develop attitudes like most Duke fans I’ve ran across then Kentucky and the rest would feel pretty much the same as we do about Duke. Although likely doubtful, Stanford may be on their way to just such a position so maybe we will see the same thing there.

I have nothing against using your high academic standing to recruit both student and athletes. I agree, everybody who can, should. My point in answering DD28’s inquiry is that Duke uses its money to ensure status and recruit players that might otherwise stay in their own state’s university system, that is one reason why other fans really hate them. As I said before, that’s just the way it is, can’t blame them but it is a reason why Maryland fans, for instance, chanted “f-you JJ” when Reddick stepped to the line to shoot free throws last week. I don’t condone it, I only try to offer an explanation for it.

I never said that you shouldn’t support your team or that Duke should be a doormat for the league. You can be happy that your guys are enjoying some success without being an a$$ho1e in the process. In other words quit acting like a Bills or Jet's fan.

As for evidence to support what I say you don’t have to look any further than this thread. This entire thing started on the main Dolphin board when I got flamed by DolphinDevil28. I don’t give a crap that he is a Duke fan and loves his team. Great for him, but when he gets in my face then I’m not going to let it slide. Since then, both DolphinDevil and you have gone out of your way to be extremely insulting to both the university and me. Call it smack or whatever you want to call it, I see it as continued proof that you all are arrogant and rude. Yea, Yea, I know Boo-hoo. For the record though, I really don’t care. It just provides further evidence for what I'm saying. The Duke fans can spread all the smack they want but don’t come along later and wonder out loud why people hate your team. If you do, expect to get some answers that you don’t want to hear.


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DevilInPgh
02-07-2004, 08:27 PM
I have not insulted UNC. Check my previous postings (except the "Piss on Carolina" one, that was just traditional ribbing before a game). If you ask me, a Carolina fan is WAAAAAAY higher up on the class scale than, say, a Maryland fan. Or maybe the "implicit taunt" that the Crazies did after Uncle Terry wrote the Avuncular Letter got to you a bit.

Now you, insulting my university, that's a different subject altogether, as you have indeed insulted my university and MY education.

And one more thing: if you talk smack, you'd better be able to back it up. And to that, I only have to say, "SCOREBOARD!!!!!!!"

DolphinDevil28
02-07-2004, 11:15 PM
One world for TarhellPhinfan: J-E-A-L-O-U-S-Y.

Maybe this is why so many hate carolina: Stop recruiting pot sellers.

TarHeelPhinfan
02-08-2004, 01:18 AM
Nowhere did I insult your education. As far as I’m concerned, Duke is a great university academically and anyone with the opportunity to go there can’t do much better. I’ll admit I was a bit harsh on the culture of your university and the way it has achieved its greatness. However, I do still think that Duke uses this as an advantage when it comes to recruiting but in reality it doesn’t affect UNC all that much. As I said before, so be it. That is just the way it is. Keep in mind my response was to DD28’s ridiculous question and my comments attempted to answer this from the point of view why fans might feel the way they do about Duke and it’s fans. Of course, not all Duke fans are A-holes, some just go out of their way to big, hairy ones. It is always each fans choice, no matter the favorite team, as to whether they want to be one or not. As far as insulting me or UNC, you seem conflicted as to whether you did or not. That’s fine; I am not looking for an apology. Say what you want.

As far as the scoreboard thing, I would be careful with that one. As a fan of Duke and watching ACC basketball you should realize that what goes around comes around in this conference. It should be another good game the next time around with hopefully a little better result. Your team won’t always be on top so enjoy it while it lasts. I’ll leave it at that. I don’t really think there’s a chance that I can convert you into a Carolina fan anyway. :)

DolphinDevil28
02-08-2004, 08:48 PM
How in the hell was my question ridiculous? It's ridiculous in your eyes because your a carolina fan and you hate Duke naturally. There is no reason to hate Duke otherwise though because they are extremely classy and always win.

It's jealousy.

TarHeelPhinfan
02-09-2004, 06:32 PM
It is a ridiculous question because you have the arrogant audacity to ask it. It is as if you think that everyone should bow down and worship the mighty Duke. I got news for you bub, it ain’t gonna happen. That’s like a Pats fan assuming that everyone should love their team because they have won 2 super bowls in 3 years. I certainly hope that you don’t ask this question with regard to the Dolphins. Just be glad that you asked it on this board instead of a college BB one. I’m sure that if you did that you would get more than one enlightened view as to why everyone doesn’t love Duke. From a sports perspective, “Do I hate Duke?” Sure do. But, being a Dolphin fan too, not as much as I hate the god#### Bills and Jets. It’s pretty close though.

Jealous? Are you insane? Your saying that a Carolina fan – a fan of a team with 2nd highest winning percentage in the NCAA, behind Kentucky and the all-time winningest coach in NCAA history – is jealous of Duke’s recent basketball success? That’s a good one! You’ve really got little to brag about except for Coach K’s success since the late 1980’s. Carolina’s had, and most likely will continue to have, some of the greatest players ever to grace the game. Can you say James Worthy, Phil Ford, Vince Carter, Antawn Jamison, Lenny Rosenbluth, and some guy named Michael Jordan? In football, does the name Lawrence Taylor ring a bell? I agree that Duke’s classy but no more than any of the other top tier teams. As I said before, they’re classy because A) they have financial wherewithal to be, and B) they’re in the ACC. They should be classy. If anybody’s is jealous it is you. At least I don’t have to state in all my posts how great UNC is, everybody already knows it. Frankly this is just way too easy. I guess the only reason I even responded to you was because you seemed overdue for a dose of humility.

Btw, Duke doesn’t always win. “Always” is a pretty big word, partner. I think you had better temper that attitude soon because it will come back to haunt you sooner than you think! While your team has had the better of the rivalry lately I seriously doubt that it will equate to a permanent status for the rest of your life.

DolphinDevil28
02-09-2004, 07:20 PM
Now your'e putting words in my mouth. Stop twisting this around. I never said "Bow down to Duke." Good lord.
I am sick of all the idiots with the "fukk dook" and "puke" garbage. That's what pi$$es me off and that's why I asked that question.

It sounds like you're the one with the attitude. Get your panties out of a bind.

And I'm talking about jealousy right now. As in 5 consecutive ACC Championships. As in the #1 ranking in America. As in being undefeated in the conference.
I couldn't care less what carolina did 10 or 15 years ago.

And maybe, just maybe, carolina fans are a little pi$$y because of their recruits and players being in the news for legal trouble. Like JamesOn whatever his name is.
When do you ever hear of a Duke kid getting in that kind of trouble???

TarHeelPhinfan
02-09-2004, 11:23 PM
Besides the other reasons I’ve given as to why fans bad mouth Duke, it’s also because fans like you insult other people’s favorite teams. If Duke is as classy as you say, then its fans, like yourself, should try to be just as classy as the team. I only responded to you because you, not just started this, but kept it up to the point that I got sick of it. I understand the whole “Go to Hell Carolina!” stuff, don’t have a real problem with it, because as you might know, “go to hell, Duke” is occasionally part of our fight song. That said, you probably wouldn’t have walked up to my face in the street, and said it three times, if you didn’t know me. So what gives you right to do so on a Dolphins message board? I dealt with that and for the most part jabbed back just a little. But couple that with the “simple math” crap and the other remarks made in this thread and you are just begging for someone to take you on. So go ahead and enjoy your teams success and try and show some class while your at it for Chrissake. Just for the record, Jamison and Carter and our last final four squad was not “10-15” years ago and Julius Peppers entered the NFL from UNC two years ago, so UNC continues to be successful, talented athletes are coming out of our school and we are coming out of very rare slump in basketball even beating your Duke squad last year that “always” wins.

As far JamesOn Curry is concerned, he is Doherty’s recruit, not Roy’s. To make matters worse for him, we only have 3 scholarships to give next year and he is one of four signings. This turn of events actually takes the pressure off Roy if everyone on the team now wants to come back next year. The sad thing here is not for Carolina, it's for the kid himself. If they renounce his scholarship, he has certainly F’d-up a great opportunity that he will always regret. I really hope your not taking joy in all of this because it supposedly hurts Carolina. No doubt, it would be interesting to see him play, as he is the all time leading Scorer in NC high school b-ball. But it really doesn’t hurt us as much as it does JamesOn. Like Duke, there are plenty of top notch players more than willing to take a roster spot. As far as Duke athletes not getting in trouble that’s bull$h1t. Your basketball team has been clean, or at least not caught, recently but in 1999 they had a football player get arrested for robbing a man in a wheelchair at gunpoint. I’ll take a pot smoker anyday. It happens everywhere so don’t think that Duke butt is “pimple free.” Doing so only makes everyone hate Duke worse.

DolphinDevil28
02-10-2004, 01:09 AM
Good Lord, don't you have anything better to do than write 10 paragraphs per post about a college rivalry?

Besides, let me remind you of something. YOU were the one that got all pi$$y. I just posted a simple question of "what is there to hate about the Blue Devils?" and you just lost it. I never insulted NC until you started posting crap.

DolphinDevil28
02-10-2004, 01:11 AM
Oh yeah, one more thing...









































83-81

TarHeelPhinfan
02-10-2004, 02:14 PM
That’s a bunch of baloney. Btw, look whose talking! Mr. 1185 posts averaging 4.19 per day. You must not have anything better to do either.

Like I said, Duke fans have no class. Is that short enough for you????

iceblizzard69
02-10-2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by TarHeelPhinfan
That’s a bunch of baloney. Btw, look whose talking! Mr. 1185 posts averaging 4.19 per day. You must not have anything better to do either.



:couch:

Post count smack is lame. I post a lot, but that doesn't mean I don't do anything else.

CirclingWagons
02-10-2004, 03:49 PM
Both are great programs, both of their futures are bright, but right now it's all Duke

fthepats
02-11-2004, 11:19 AM
I am not sure whether you are ignorant or brainwashed. The first group of Dook fans, the ignorant, are unaware of how unclassy Coach K really is. The myth perpetuated by the media is that of a dignified statesman. In reality Coach K, like his mentor Bobby Knight, is foul-mouthed, immature and classless.

The second group of Dook, brainwashed, are generally alumni who overlook his shortcomings because of his coaching genius. Success has gradually eroded any concerns.

The truth is Dook is one the premier programs in the country, they graduate their players and they don't run a dirty program... but don't tell me there is no reason to hate Dook. Coach K is an A-hole like Stienbrenner. Their students, while entertaining at times, often exhibit extremely poor taste. They also choke more than Kentucky and Kansas combined.

As a Dolphin fan i feel dirty to have a Dookie in the family.

DolphinDevil28
02-11-2004, 06:50 PM
Show me proof that coach K is not classy.

Do you remember the Duke/Kentucky tournament game when Leattner hit the last second turnaround shot? Coach K got on the Kentucky sendicate radio station and told their fans and students to hold their heads up high after the game. He said no one deserved to lose the game, and they were both great and classy schools.

Yeah, he's such an A-hole.

SMadison29
03-04-2004, 01:39 AM
DOWN GOES DUKE AGAIN!!

CirclingWagons
03-04-2004, 09:36 AM
in your ****in eye Dukies!

btw, Go Terps!, got a BIG, much needed win at NC State...now we just have to beat UVA at home and the selection committee might give us a chance

DolphinDevil28
03-04-2004, 01:31 PM
We're still getting a #1 seed after we beat unc and win the ACC tourney AGAIN.

CirclingWagons
03-04-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by DolphinDevil28
We're still getting a #1 seed after we beat unc and win the ACC tourney AGAIN. Duke has looked awfully shaky the last few weeks...don't see them winning it this year

SMadison29
03-07-2004, 02:50 AM
Duke got lucky twice in a row vs UNC. They're very shaky.

DolphinDevil28
03-07-2004, 10:52 PM
Yeah, let me tell you. That was all luck.

Please...

SMadison29
03-08-2004, 01:56 AM
Kentucky is looking at a 1 seed.

DolphinDevil28
03-08-2004, 09:15 PM
No shot!!

The four #1's as of right now: Stanford, Duke, St. Joe's and Mississippi State.

Next in line is Gonzaga, NOT Kentucky.

SMadison29
03-09-2004, 01:32 AM
Yeah, they changed it today.

Mississippi State won't be a #1 afters Kentucky wins the SEC tournament.

DolphinDevil28
03-09-2004, 06:56 PM
We shall see. I would love to watch a Kentucky/MSU championhip SEC game. That would be a great one.

Two of the 3 crappiest football teams in the conference have the two best basketball teams.

SMadison29
03-10-2004, 07:21 PM
Kentucky already beat MSU earlier this year.

DolphinDevil28
03-10-2004, 09:50 PM
That means absolutely nothing.

SMadison29
03-11-2004, 02:45 AM
It means we can take them.

SMadison29
03-14-2004, 03:02 AM
Poor Mississippi State. No #1 seed for them. So long as Kentucky beats Florida tomorrow they're pretty much guaranteed a #1 seed :D

SMadison29
03-14-2004, 03:56 AM
Sports Center just said Kentucky is a lock to get a 1 seed even if they lose in the SEC Championship.