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koolvid
10-09-2011, 12:05 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating/year/2011/group/80


RG3 is better in every way other then his skin color, unless you guys didn't send me the secret 卐卐卐 invite, I don't see any reason why we would draft Andrew Luck over RG3



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koolvid
10-09-2011, 12:11 PM
+1 op

SebasMiamiFan
10-09-2011, 12:13 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

Mage_Phin
10-09-2011, 12:15 PM
Because we aren't idiots.

DefensiveEnd76
10-09-2011, 12:15 PM
Griffin plays for Baylor so he sucks?? :idk:

hooshoops
10-09-2011, 12:17 PM
:bobdole:

koolvid
10-09-2011, 12:17 PM
Because we aren't idiots.

give me 1 reason why we wouldnt draft him over luck, even RG3t eam is ****.tier then luck and he still has better stats

McMichael81Fan
10-09-2011, 12:19 PM
If the two best quarterbacks in the country happen to be 1 white guy and 1 black guy, just because the consensus thinks that the white guy is a better player doesn't at all mean its a race thing. Skin color is the most annoying topic in sports.

The Furminister
10-09-2011, 12:22 PM
If the two best quarterbacks in the country happen to be 1 white guy and 1 black guy, just because the consensus thinks that the white guy is a better player doesn't at all mean its a race thing. Skin color is the most annoying topic in sports.

That topic pisses me off too, you always see it on ESPN's First Take now, i really hate it.

Minnphin
10-09-2011, 12:23 PM
Top 5 college qb's of all time in terms of passing yards:

1. Timmy Chang, Hawaii: (2000-2004) 17,072 yards
2. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech (2005-2008)
3. Ty Detmer, BYU: (1988-91) 15,031
4. Colt Brennan, Hawaii: (2005-07) 14,193
5. Case Keenum, Houston: (2007-present) 13,586

Stats aren't everything.

koolvid
10-09-2011, 12:23 PM
so tell me why luck over RG3

Harry_Bagpipe
10-09-2011, 12:24 PM
successful troll is successful

koolvid
10-09-2011, 12:25 PM
Top 5 college qb's of all time in terms of passing yards:

1. Timmy Chang, Hawaii: (2000-2004) 17,072 yards
2. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech (2005-2008)
3. Ty Detmer, BYU: (1988-91) 15,031
4. Colt Brennan, Hawaii: (2005-07) 14,193
5. Case Keenum, Houston: (2007-present) 13,586

Stats aren't everything.


if they arent why are we drafting luck over RG3? oce again RG3 even has a worse team

WeVie
10-09-2011, 12:25 PM
What are you even talking about.

DeathStar
10-09-2011, 12:26 PM
successful troll is successful

The Nazi Symbols made me go the troll route as well.

greasyObnoxious
10-09-2011, 12:26 PM
if they arent why are we drafting luck over RG3? oce again RG3 even has a worse team

Stanford doesn't have anyone who's coming close to Kendall Wright, who, coincidentally, amassed about half of Griffin's passing stats so far.

Nappy Roots
10-09-2011, 12:39 PM
Is this a serious thread? Luck is in a class by himself. Why should we pick him over Griffen? How about the Simple fact...Griffen has questionmarks while Luck has none.

Gonzo
10-09-2011, 12:40 PM
Stop feeding the trolls by hitting reply.

Wait...damn it....

MadDog 88
10-09-2011, 12:43 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating/year/2011/group/80


RG3 is better in every way other then his skin color, unless you guys didn't send me the secret 卐卐卐 invite, I don't see any reason why we would draft Andrew Luck over RG3



discuss for the future of the DolphinsIf you think skin color is the only difference between Luck and RG3 then there is no way anyone could explain to you how ridiculous your line of thinking is.

AphexPhin
10-09-2011, 12:51 PM
RG3 is so ****in overrated. Come on. Not even in the same stratosphere as Luck

Dolfan984
10-09-2011, 12:51 PM
Luck is way more talented. Has nothing to do with skin color.

Billk78
10-09-2011, 12:58 PM
It has nothing to do with stats. It's how a player's style will transition into the NFL. Luck is an NFL-ready QB. Watch highlights of the two, or maybe even take the time to watch them play a whole game. If you did than you wouldn't even be bringing this up.

MarSly
10-09-2011, 12:58 PM
The guy is shorter than Luck..I don't know much about Luck other he has the size..This other guy is John Beck size and looks like he's throwing against lesser opponents.

natetherock
10-09-2011, 01:00 PM
CAREER STATS


SEASON
CMP
ATT
YDS
CMP%
YPA
LNG
TD
INT
SACK
RAT


2011
93
113
1308
82.3
11.58
66
18
1
7
230.3


2010
304
454
3501
67.0
7.71
94
22
8
20
144.2


2009
45
69
481
65.2
6.97
42
4
0
4
142.9


2008
160
267
2091
59.9
7.83
61
15
3
28
142.0




Not that his stats from last year are bad, but his numbers this year are obviously not normal. Anyone can look at an 82% completion rating and 230 rating and say hes the best player ever. Lets not take a small sample size and think this kid is a career 82% passer. Baylor runs a lot of screens and short pass routes that are high percentage plays. I think he may be worth a 1st round pick, but to say he should be taken 1st overall instead of Luck is a little irrational.

KTOWNFINFAN
10-09-2011, 01:02 PM
if they arent why are we drafting luck over RG3? oce again RG3 even has a worse teamYou do understand Luck in on a run first, ground and pound Stanford team right?? RG3 is listed as 6-2 and he isn't even that tall. The guy 2nd on that list Russel Wilson, is a very interested pospect, but he isn't on Andrew Luck's level. Luck is truely amazing. I have starting taping and watching every game this year of his, and he is NFL ready RIGHT NOW!!! He is a team first player who doesn't care about stats. Several times I have seen him down close to the goalline change from a pass play into a run. He is about getting the job done not about stats.

CedarPhin
10-09-2011, 01:04 PM
The OP needs to stop playing the race card. It's a tired and inflammatory excuse.

COphinphan89
10-09-2011, 01:04 PM
Obvious troll is obvious.
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

Harry_Bagpipe
10-09-2011, 01:04 PM
I repeat. Successful troll is successful

dolfan3431
10-09-2011, 01:05 PM
Griffin over Luck??? That is really really ****in stupid

Clipse
10-09-2011, 01:59 PM
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Jamaicankid21
10-09-2011, 02:00 PM
Even though I agree that Luck is better than Griffin, I don't discredit that race is a factor in drafting a QB or NBA players.. Deny it as much as you want, but it is just the truth. RG3 has had solid stats his career, not just this year, this year its just been crazyy though, Id take Luck over him easily but RG3 wouldn't be a bad QB to fall back on IMO if we don't get that 1, we could trade back and get extra picks, because I don't see many QBs looking me in the face saying, I have to have that guy with the 2,3, or 4 pick.

Rugby
10-09-2011, 02:07 PM
if they arent why are we drafting luck over RG3? oce again RG3 even has a worse team

Luck has led his team to a BCS bowl and won, what has the other guy done ? Won the Toilet Bowl ? That you are asking this leads me to believe you are just trolling for controversy.

Sirspud
10-09-2011, 02:09 PM
I don't even know who RG3 is, but you don't judge college QB's just based on stats.

Fintastic2124
10-09-2011, 02:11 PM
Luck has led his team to a BCS bowl and won, what has the other guy done ? Won the Toilet Bowl ? That you are asking this leads me to believe you are just trolling for controversy.Nope. I'm from Illinois and he played the Illini last year in he Texas bowl and got stomped. Like 38-14 stomped.

ChambersChamps
10-09-2011, 02:17 PM
One of the worst and dumbest threads of all time!!!!!!

Jamaicankid21
10-09-2011, 02:17 PM
I don't even know who RG3 is, but you don't judge college QB's just based on stats.

RGIII has a good arm, quick release, good vision, and can make throws, but he plays in a quick fast pace offense..Andrew Luck is much more pro ready, but arm accuracy. Has played in big games...Big name player. RGIII COULD be a good player, but It'd be crazy to take him over Luck..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xURPOglz7hQ

Big Time arm, Able to throw touch passes, understands a quick hit west coast style offense. I don't think he plays under center much which worries me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO3QkCbt0ys&feature=related

NBP81
10-09-2011, 02:18 PM
Not saying its the case here, but to think black QBs and White WRs arent stereotyped is kind of naive IMO... Its not racist per say, its more of a white man cant jump, black QBs arent pocket passers kind of thing... But to say the only reason you'd pick Luck over RG3 is the color of their skin is absurd...

koolvid
10-09-2011, 02:21 PM
exactly



















sighs in relief after successfully trolling

armyphin
10-09-2011, 02:21 PM
You mean they let the colored kids play with the whites? Oh my lord.

Jamaicankid21
10-09-2011, 02:23 PM
Not saying its the case here, but to think black QBs and White WRs arent stereotyped is kind of naive IMO... Its not racist per say, its more of a white man cant jump, black QBs arent pocket passers kind of thing... But to say the only reason you'd pick Luck over RG3 is the color of their skin is absurd....

Agreed 100%, same reason Jimmer fell so far in the NBA draft.

dolfan_101
10-09-2011, 02:25 PM
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Agreed 100%, same reason Jimmer fell so far in the NBA draft.

JIMMER?! Dude can't D up the local middle school b team.

Valandui
10-09-2011, 02:28 PM
Although I know I shouldn't get into this, I'm pretty sure that a black QB just went first overall this year.

dolfan_101
10-09-2011, 02:29 PM
Although I know I shouldn't get into this, I'm pretty sure that a black QB just went first overall this year.

great song btw, love BOO.

koolvid
10-09-2011, 02:31 PM
Although I know I shouldn't get into this, I'm pretty sure that a black QB just went first overall this year.

Rodgers and Brady are better overall

Jamaicankid21
10-09-2011, 02:31 PM
JIMMER?! Dude can't D up the local middle school b team.

Defense in the NBA? All youre allowed to do is stay in front of your man and pray he misses now, any sort of contact and they are calling a foul.. Steve Nash plays 0 defense won 2 MVPs, Dirk won his MVP back when he played 0 defense..

Valandui
10-09-2011, 02:33 PM
great song btw, love BOO.

I just started listening to them about two days ago and I have no idea why it took me so long. I've had the CDs on my computer for about six months now and just got around to it.

koolvid
10-09-2011, 02:37 PM
I just started listening to them about two days ago and I have no idea why it took me so long. I've had the CDs on my computer for about six months now and just got around to it.


just listened to 1 of there songs, sounds like a bunch of emos who hate their lives, and have never picked up weights, aka white skinny girls screaming i hate my life and sparano

Sirspud
10-09-2011, 02:42 PM
Although I know I shouldn't get into this, I'm pretty sure that a black QB just went first overall this year.

As well as 3 or 4 years ago.

CharlieTheTuna
10-09-2011, 03:07 PM
Wow, swastikas in the OP. Don't you know you save the really inflammatory stuff for after you've hooked them in. Thats just trolling 101.