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zach8111
12-22-2011, 04:36 PM
Matt Barkley (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7421/matt-barkley) - QB - Player (http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/clubhouse/nfl/clg/player)


Pete Thamel of the New York Times reports USC QB Matt Barkley has informed teammates that he's staying in school for the 2012 season.

The official announcement is expected to be made at 4:00 ET. After completing 69.1 percent of his passes at 7.91 YPA and a 39:7 TD-to-INT ratio as a junior, Barkley was said to be competing with Baylor's Robert Griffin III to be the first QB off the board behind Stanford's Andrew Luck. Should he declare for the draft, Oklahoma's Landry Jones is likely to be the third first-round QB.


per rotoworld

Rugby
12-22-2011, 04:40 PM
I do not want to take Jones in the 1st round. If we are stuck with no QB to take in the 1st, take a skill WR and just go with Moore next year and look at getting a QB in 2013 draft. Jones is not worth a 1st round pick.

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We just had to win games.......I HATE YOU SPARANO !

Travis34
12-22-2011, 04:44 PM
RgIII?

datruth55
12-22-2011, 04:45 PM
I do not want to take Jones in the 1st round. If we are stuck with no QB to take in the 1st, take a skill WR and just go with Moore next year and look at getting a QB in 2013 draft. Jones is not worth a 1st round pick.

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We just had to win games.......I HATE YOU SPARANO !
Not defending Sparano but he was doing his job and trying to save it. The real hate should be on the Colts and Jim Caldwell for not even fielding a team that was competative until last week.

Tunaphish429
12-22-2011, 04:46 PM
Stupid.

ANUFan
12-22-2011, 04:48 PM
Thats unfortunate at this point especially with the uncertainlty of RG3 wanting to play professional ball. I think the fins should just stick with M.Moor next season and try to surround him with talent.

vagrantprodigy
12-22-2011, 04:52 PM
that sucks. I hope we avoid Jones. He's highly overrated.

elite14eva
12-22-2011, 04:54 PM
stupid for him to stay...he would go in the top 5 of the draft

armyphin
12-22-2011, 04:57 PM
Scratch a first round QB off your christmas list.

Moore and perhaps even Henne just gave a collective sigh of relief.

swityak11
12-22-2011, 04:59 PM
Someone is going to have to overpay the Vikings or Rams in order to draft RG3. Too many teams with QB needs and too few prospects.

phinfoot
12-22-2011, 04:59 PM
Thats unfortunate at this point especially with the uncertainlty of RG3 wanting to play professional ball. I think the fins should just stick with M.Moor next season and try to surround him with talent.

Where did you hear or read this?

HybridPHIN 23
12-22-2011, 05:01 PM
This isnt confirmed yet.

Danny
12-22-2011, 05:03 PM
I guess we're out of Luck.....I agree with taking a playmaker if a QB worth taking is not there......just hope we don't take a corner or a RT with a top 10 pick

Ozzy rules!!

Scott Andrew
12-22-2011, 05:04 PM
Confirmed... Barkley is staying at USC

dlockz
12-22-2011, 05:06 PM
we are so damn screwed at qb

armyphin
12-22-2011, 05:06 PM
Someone is going to have to overpay the Vikings or Rams in order to draft RG3.
Hopefully that someone is not the Dolphins.

Rugby
12-22-2011, 05:06 PM
Not defending Sparano but he was doing his job and trying to save it. The real hate should be on the Colts and Jim Caldwell for not even fielding a team that was competative until last week.

I guess my real anger should go to Ross for not firing Sparano.

Phins28
12-22-2011, 05:07 PM
Welcome to miami right tackle!

TruePoizon
12-22-2011, 05:07 PM
he just said on USCtrojans website, that he will be staying in college. I guess we either have to trade up for Luck or wait til next year. I really think hes doing this so he can be #1 QB taken next year lol.

Kistner10
12-22-2011, 05:08 PM
He's staying. The chances of us getting an elite QB prospect in the draft just got a lot slimmer.

dlockz
12-22-2011, 05:10 PM
looks like the same old song for us. Well I hope we look at Landry Jones if he comes out

EmperorPhin
12-22-2011, 05:10 PM
Ive been telling you guys all year he would stay. This was the right decision with the team he has coming back. No longer under a bowl ban and will be one the favs if not the fav for the national title. Now he can go #1 next year. I would have loved to have him as a phin next year and this now means we will not take a QB in the first round.

Vaark
12-22-2011, 05:10 PM
Just a heads-up;

although as policy, I don't red-rep fellow fans unless provoked (can't say the same about opponents' trolls), after enduring a year of "Suck for Luck" I will do so starting with the very first time I read "Blow for Barkley" :up:

ANUFan
12-22-2011, 05:10 PM
Where did you hear or read this?

Are you serious check the Draft forum..Sounds like he may end up pulling a Ricky Williams

shanem40
12-22-2011, 05:10 PM
SELLLLLLLL the house for luck trade our first round picks for the next 10 years idc I want a QB

Taysia
12-22-2011, 05:13 PM
Well this is one of the reasons a team should never suck for anyone. You don't know what the draft will look like.

ANUFan
12-22-2011, 05:14 PM
SELLLLLLLL the house for luck trade our first round picks for the next 10 years idc I want a QB

no! They better not! Luck is not that good..sorry

tylerdolphin
12-22-2011, 05:15 PM
fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

EmperorPhin
12-22-2011, 05:16 PM
SELLLLLLLL the house for luck trade our first round picks for the next 10 years idc I want a QB
NO way in hell i give up 4 firsts for luck

dlockz
12-22-2011, 05:17 PM
he probaby saved us the trouble of being pissed when Ireland drafts a G or De

Sofa_King_Drunk
12-22-2011, 05:23 PM
Last I checked USC isn't in the SEC, so there goes that whole National Championship thing. He must want to stick around, chase sluts, go to frat parties, and take a dance class like Matt Leinart did. Since his daddy is in the insurance business he might be able to get a break on that expensive insurance policy he'll need .

Kistner10
12-22-2011, 05:26 PM
Last I checked USC isn't in the SEC, so there goes that whole National Championship thing. He must want to stick around, chase sluts, go to frat parties, and take a dance class like Matt Leinart did. Since his daddy is in the insurance business he might be able to get a break on that expensive insurance policy he'll need .

USC is a legit National Title contender next year.

mrbunglez
12-22-2011, 05:30 PM
NO way in hell i give up 4 firsts for luck

Shoot I would trade 4 1st rounds for Luck if that's the only way to get him, that saves us 4 yrs worth of looking for a QB.

Rugby
12-22-2011, 05:33 PM
USC is a legit National Title contender next year.

I hope he has a good right tackle, because the good one they had this year is definitely getting drafted.

Roman529
12-22-2011, 05:35 PM
Well that pretty much takes away our shot at getting a great QB in round one. I doubt RG3 will be around when we pick. I would go with BPA at this point. No sense dealing away draft picks as this point. Maybe we can acquire Peyton Manning?

endorPHINS72
12-22-2011, 05:35 PM
God dammit.

dolfan91
12-22-2011, 05:38 PM
You got the feeling several weeks back when a report surfaced, Barkley wasn't going to declare!!! I don't blame the kid, he wants to finish his schooling and have 1 more year of college life .. lets just hope he doesn't pull a Leinart and start to party !!! Anyway there was no way Miami was going to be in position to draft Barkley without trading up ... and the price IMO would have been too steep ... I also read an article on GBN Report.com about the possibility of RGIII returning to school ... Lets just face the facts, 2012 isn't the year Miami gets to select a QB in round #1, unless they Reach for someone, like most teams did last year ... I'm all in for David DeCastro at #8/9 or wherever Miami selects in the top 10 ... Blackmon, Claiborne and other playmakers most probably will be selected ahead of Miami anyway ... Upshaw is a possibility, but without Barkley or quite possibly RGIII not declaring; Upshaw might be selected ahead of Miami as well ... I'm also all in for a trade down to selct perhaps Tannehill, Nick Perry or perhaps a WR .. right now it's a crap shoot .. sad, sad day I might add!!!

Daytona Fin
12-22-2011, 05:38 PM
got to root for the skins,bills and vikes to win some games

NYPhinzFan
12-22-2011, 05:39 PM
I called it

Joba-nator
12-22-2011, 05:39 PM
cough matt leinart cough...

COphinphan89
12-22-2011, 05:46 PM
This makes all five of this team's wins this season all that more destructive to their long-term future.

This is bad. Very bad for us.

ANUFan
12-22-2011, 05:50 PM
This makes all five of this team's wins this season all that more destructive to their long-term future.

This is bad. Very bad for us.

How? especially if RG3 decides to pursue other things besides FB

Sofa_King_Drunk
12-22-2011, 05:52 PM
USC is a legit National Title contender next year.

Yep, just a little smart arse commentary on the BCS and the SEC stranglehold on it. Not meant to be a knock on the Trojans.

COphinphan89
12-22-2011, 05:55 PM
How? especially if RG3 decides to pursue other things besides FB

Should have been focused on Luck ever since the 0-7 start.

Hayden Fox
12-22-2011, 05:55 PM
Matt Moore celebrates.

J. David Wannyheimer
12-22-2011, 05:57 PM
Hope you guys like drafting more guards.

Hayden Fox
12-22-2011, 06:01 PM
I love the handwringing. I knew this would happen that all the people that wanted us to lose all year would say, "AHHHH, I told you we should have lost." Relax.

You have a qb under contract that has almost a 90 QBR.
The draft order is not set yet. Trading up for Luck or RGIII is still possible
We must re-evaluate Landry Jones
The senior qb's like Tannehill and Foles need to be looked at as possibilities...Perhaps you draft them OR draft a position player and move back up to get one of these guys.

Relax.

dolfan91
12-22-2011, 06:01 PM
Matt Moore celebrates. Wouldn't it be great if Matt Moore actually is one of those late Blooming QB's that makes a name for himself midway through his career!!! Plunkett is one that comes to mind!!! If Miami solves the O-Line problem, Moore could be better than he is right now!!! IMHO

ANUFan
12-22-2011, 06:04 PM
Hope you guys like drafting more guards.

Dont remind me!

AZStryker
12-22-2011, 06:04 PM
Should have been focused on Luck ever since the 0-7 start.

Ok sport, let me explain something to you. People who work could care less about what others want them to do. Taking care of their family is number 1 without question. If they don't perform, it takes money right out of their own pocket. Hopefully you could not be so ignorant to think that these players were actually going to lie down and risk their ability to provide for themselves and their families.

2413fanphins
12-22-2011, 06:07 PM
shoot for blackmon, and hope weeden falls to our second pick.

or take landry jones and let him sit behind matt moore.

ultimately it's trade up for andrew luck, or snag peyton manning and have at least 3 or 4 good years.

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Ok sport, let me explain something to you. People who work could care less about what others want them to do. Taking care of their family is number 1 without question. If they don't perform, it takes money right out of their own pocket. Hopefully you could not be so ignorant to think that these players were actually going to lie down and risk their ability to provide for themselves and their families.



please don't act like multi millionaires struggle to provide for their family. I provide for a family of four on less than a $40,000 annual salary.

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Ok sport, let me explain something to you. People who work could care less about what others want them to do. Taking care of their family is number 1 without question. If they don't perform, it takes money right out of their own pocket. Hopefully you could not be so ignorant to think that these players were actually going to lie down and risk their ability to provide for themselves and their families.



please don't act like multi millionaires struggle to provide for their family. I provide for a family of four on less than a $40,000 annual salary.

KB21
12-22-2011, 06:14 PM
Hope you guys like drafting more guards.

I would take David DeCastro in a heartbeat. He's the one guy that might be available when Miami picks that will likely be an All Pro player in the NFL.

normaldude
12-22-2011, 06:16 PM
Good. I didn't want to spend an early 1st rd draft pick on Barkley.

If we can't get RGIII in the 1st, then just grab Weeden in the 2nd.

AZStryker
12-22-2011, 06:17 PM
shoot for blackmon, and hope weeden falls to our second pick.

or take landry jones and let him sit behind matt moore.

ultimately it's trade up for andrew luck, or snag peyton manning and have at least 3 or 4 good years.

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please don't act like multi millionaires struggle to provide for their family. I provide for a family of four on less than a $40,000 annual salary.

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please don't act like multi millionaires struggle to provide for their family. I provide for a family of four on less than a $40,000 annual salary.

The more money you earn the more you spend. Plus if players lie down, the get cut and might just play themselves out of the league. Then what??

allsilverdreams
12-22-2011, 06:17 PM
Lets hope rg3 stays in as well

newlife2788
12-22-2011, 06:21 PM
I don't mind

TheMageGandalf
12-22-2011, 06:26 PM
The more money you earn the more you spend. Plus if players lie down, the get cut and might just play themselves out of the league. Then what??

They use that College Degree they got, thats what.

Of course, if they were dummies and took easy classes and put all their eggs into the NFL basket then that's their problem.

They got to go to college on a scholarship and could choose to play now, but LEARN for the future. If they opted for the easy way out, thats their problem.

Vaark
12-22-2011, 06:29 PM
There's a ridiculous, infraction-worthy thread that got re-routed to the depths.. i refrained from responding in kind.

All I'll say is that anyone who thought that despite the coaching this was gonna be a winless, let alone 1 or 2 win team and is now abjectly disappointed that the players actually tried to save their coach and earn their paychecks really has no one to blame for letting themselves be gullibly taken in by their unrealistic delusions but themselves!

Taking that a step further, to castigate the play-2-winners for rooting for and enjoying wins which comes naturally to a heterosexually-wired fan, as if this had any influence on our record, instead of joining in for the puckering up for favors or bending over to submit to the will of the opponent is as plausible as those active, vocal and sometimes surprising Suck for Luckers having no one to blame but themselves for this outcome.

It's the Universal Order of The Universe: from a Karmic standpoint what goes around comes around in kind. And rooting against your team is the kind of bad Karma that more often than not bounces right back atcha. As a matter of fact, beyond Karma, all the national and often embarrassing SFL attention was like waving a red flag in front of a bull - the bull being our team. Trying to perform when looking at SFL Teeshirts, hearing boos when they score and listening to SFL chants in their own home stadium can in fact be a galvanizing catalyst in turning things around. Maybe a little more subtlety and class would have worked better, ya think?

So if you wanna blame anyone, blame yourself for creating the bad juju and then rubbing it in the players faces.

2413fanphins
12-22-2011, 06:30 PM
I dont' know, if they are dumb enough to blow through MULTI MILLIONS OF DOLLARS... I can't say I feel sorry for them having to go sack groceries.

Valandui
12-22-2011, 06:37 PM
Wouldn't it be great if Matt Moore actually is one of those late Blooming QB's that makes a name for himself midway through his career!!! Plunkett is one that comes to mind!!! If Miami solves the O-Line problem, Moore could be better than he is right now!!! IMHO
Ask Carolina about Matt Moore.

Jersey DolFan
12-22-2011, 06:40 PM
I guess we're out of Luck.....I agree with taking a playmaker if a QB worth taking is not there......just hope we don't take a corner or a RT with a top 10 pick

Ozzy rules!!

why? those are our 2 biggest needs (well safety not corner) thank god fans dont make these picks. the draft shouldnt even be a big fan experience since most fans are clueless.

Valandui
12-22-2011, 06:41 PM
There's a ridiculous, infraction-worthy thread that got re-routed to the depths.. i refrained from responding in kind.

All I'll say is that anyone who thought that despite the coaching this was gonna be a winless, let alone 1 or 2 win team and is now abjectly disappointed that the players actually tried to save their coach and earn their paychecks really has no one to blame for letting themselves be gullibly taken in by their unrealistic delusions but themselves!

Taking that a step further, to castigate the play-2-winners for rooting for and enjoying wins which comes naturally to a heterosexually-wired fan, as if this had any influence on our record, instead of joining in for the puckering up for favors or bending over to submit to the will of the opponent is as plausible as those active, vocal and sometimes surprising Suck for Luckers having no one to blame but themselves for this outcome.

It's the Universal Order of The Universe: from a Karmic standpoint what goes around comes around in kind. And rooting against your team is the kind of bad Karma that more often than not bounces right back atcha. As a matter of fact, beyond Karma, all the national and often embarrassing SFL attention was like waving a red flag in front of a bull - the bull being our team. Trying to perform when looking at SFL Teeshirts, hearing boos when they score and listening to SFL chants in their own home stadium can in fact be a galvanizing catalyst in turning things around. Maybe a little more subtlety and class would have worked better, ya think?

So if you wanna blame anyone, blame yourself for creating the bad juju and then rubbing it in the players faces.
How about the Colts fans wearing Luck jerseys to games after week three? Where's their karmic retribution?

J. David Wannyheimer
12-22-2011, 06:42 PM
How about the Colts fans wearing Luck jerseys to games after week three? Where's their karmic retribution? Maybe they'll beat the Texans tonight and the Vikes will get the first overall pick. :)

Jersey DolFan
12-22-2011, 06:47 PM
I dont' know, if they are dumb enough to blow through MULTI MILLIONS OF DOLLARS... I can't say I feel sorry for them having to go sack groceries.

the more B.S. i read on message boards the more i actually start to support ppl like Lebron who say "u still gotta get up do your job"

most these players do not make millions, and they break they body and mind for long hours on diets and training schedules most of us would not attempt.

fans sitting around thinking and telling players and coaches doing their job, that they "should do" this or that just to please them while they chomp down on wings and beer on sundays is friggen a sad example of why american society is on a downward spiral.

no one was going to lose for you, and no kid who wants to finish his education is going to make himself come out early b/c you think its "stupid" not to.

Austin Tatious
12-22-2011, 06:48 PM
PRAY that Landry Jones goes back to Oklahoma because I am terrified a lowly organization like Miami is the likely place where a bad quarterback gets drafted. I don't trust Miami's FO to understand that Jones sucks.

Jersey DolFan
12-22-2011, 06:49 PM
There's a ridiculous, infraction-worthy thread that got re-routed to the depths.. i refrained from responding in kind.

All I'll say is that anyone who thought that despite the coaching this was gonna be a winless, let alone 1 or 2 win team and is now abjectly disappointed that the players actually tried to save their coach and earn their paychecks really has no one to blame for letting themselves be gullibly taken in by their unrealistic delusions but themselves!

Taking that a step further, to castigate the play-2-winners for rooting for and enjoying wins which comes naturally to a heterosexually-wired fan, as if this had any influence on our record, instead of joining in for the puckering up for favors or bending over to submit to the will of the opponent is as plausible as those active, vocal and sometimes surprising Suck for Luckers having no one to blame but themselves for this outcome.

It's the Universal Order of The Universe: from a Karmic standpoint what goes around comes around in kind. And rooting against your team is the kind of bad Karma that more often than not bounces right back atcha. As a matter of fact, beyond Karma, all the national and often embarrassing SFL attention was like waving a red flag in front of a bull - the bull being our team. Trying to perform when looking at SFL Teeshirts, hearing boos when they score and listening to SFL chants in their own home stadium can in fact be a galvanizing catalyst in turning things around. Maybe a little more subtlety and class would have worked better, ya think?

So if you wanna blame anyone, blame yourself for creating the bad juju and then rubbing it in the players faces.



THIS!



and to everyone whining already about picking an o-lineman, WE NEED AN O-LINEMAN! or a D-Back. go look at pretty shiny things with the girls someplace else. we need to build a football team here.

Vaark
12-22-2011, 06:49 PM
How about the Colts fans wearing Luck jerseys to games after week three? Where's their karmic retribution?

That's not Karma, that's collusion when you keep the same Curtis Painter who gifted the jest into the playoffs on the field despite the availability of better QBs that could have been grabbed midseason. Bad Irsay Polian Karma might end up being Orlovsky and Wayne actually having enough pride to win again or them drafting Luck and him sustaining a career-threatening injury. I maintain that Karma is a ***** with a long memory.

Heinegrabber
12-22-2011, 06:50 PM
Nothing is guaranteed in this league.

2413fanphins
12-22-2011, 06:54 PM
the more B.S. i read on message boards the more i actually start to support ppl like Lebron who say "u still gotta get up do your job"

most these players do not make millions, and they break they body and mind for long hours on diets and training schedules most of us would not attempt.

fans sitting around thinking and telling players and coaches doing their job, that they "should do" this or that just to please them while they chomp down on wings and beer on sundays is friggen a sad example of why american society is on a downward spiral.

no one was going to lose for you, and no kid who wants to finish his education is going to make himself come out early b/c you think its "stupid" not to.

what the **** are you talking about.

LANGER72
12-22-2011, 06:56 PM
I have been saying this a couple of times. Barkley had not declared so the was one of the possibilities.
Right now i would say Moore is our starter and Henne signs a 2 year deal to play back up.
Next year our QB position will likely be the same subtract Losman and add Henne.
We should take the best players available and bolster our offense and pass rush.

Heinegrabber
12-22-2011, 07:02 PM
I have been saying this a couple of times. Barkley had not declared so the was one of the possibilities.
Right now i would say Moore is our starter and Henne signs a 2 year deal to play back up.
Next year our QB position will likely be the same subtract Losman and add Henne.
We should take the best players available and bolster our offense and pass rush.

If Henne is not off the roster by next season prepare for another losing season. I would trade his *** for a 5th or a 6th.

SuperMarksBros.
12-22-2011, 07:18 PM
why? those are our 2 biggest needs (well safety not corner) thank god fans dont make these picks. the draft shouldnt even be a big fan experience since most fans are clueless.
Yeah, lets take another lineman. Thats the move.

2413fanphins
12-22-2011, 07:21 PM
Yeah, lets take another lineman. Thats the move.


maybe the goal is to have all first round picks on the oline... take a 1st round OL this year, resign carey, take a 1st round OL next year... we can do it....

finomenal
12-22-2011, 07:35 PM
The best thing to do now is root for the colts to lose at least one more time and the Vikings or Rams lose out, leaving a 3 way tie at 2-14. Hopefully strength of schedule won't be in favor of the Colts and we can whore out our draft picks/players to get Luck.

Tonight's game is huge!

DudeleBroski
12-22-2011, 07:38 PM
****! **** **** **** ****!

Trade down, pick up an extra first next year for trade power.

SuperMarksBros.
12-22-2011, 07:45 PM
maybe the goal is to have all first round picks on the oline... take a 1st round OL this year, resign carey, take a 1st round OL next year... we can do it....
We have to build our foundation. It's only been 4 years, people just need to be patient.

dlockz
12-22-2011, 07:45 PM
The best thing to do now is root for the colts to lose at least one more time and the Vikings or Rams lose out, leaving a 3 way tie at 2-14. Hopefully strength of schedule won't be in favor of the Colts and we can whore out our draft picks/players to get Luck.

Tonight's game is huge!

True Im all for Wake , Starks and our first rounder to move up although it probably wont be enough. This would leave a whole at OLB but in reality that position is much easier to fill than qb and Wake is due a big raise .

zach attach
12-22-2011, 07:46 PM
Nothing says we dont take RG3. Who knows.
About Matt Moore. Look what Harbaugh did with Alex Smith. Did anyone expect him to be what he is right now? I didnt say great, I said what he is.
If Moore plays to his strengths, and we draft other needed players, then a GOOD coach can make this thing happen.
Let's get our coach and go from there. But I havent seen Moore do anything that says he is a complete failure. I thought A. Smith was.

dlockz
12-22-2011, 07:47 PM
We have to build our foundation. It's only been 4 years, people just need to be patient.

You do realize you gain and lose players every year . In the NFL 4 years is a lifetime to build a team, fans have been more than patient. Funny how other teams have done it in much less time, the falcons and us were at basically even footing and now they are a perennial playoff team while we just keep losing

Cleetus
12-22-2011, 07:49 PM
Now these meaningless wins are not looking so good are they. I hope we are not sucking for barkley next year because we couldn't get it right this year!

SuperMarksBros.
12-22-2011, 07:50 PM
You do realize you gain and lose players every year . In the NFL 4 years is a lifetime to build a team, fans have been more than patient. Funny how other teams have done it in much less time, the falcons and us were at basically even footing and now they are a perennial playoff team while we just keep losing

...[/sarcasm]

DudeleBroski
12-22-2011, 07:50 PM
You do realize you gain and lose players every year . In the NFL 4 years is a lifetime to build a team, fans have been more than patient. Funny how other teams have done it in much less time, the falcons and us were at basically even footing and now they are a perennial playoff team while we just keep losing I think he was being sarcastic. What kind of retarded front office needs every olineman to be a first rounder to be good

Cleetus
12-22-2011, 07:52 PM
I think he was being sarcastic. What kind of retarded front office needs every olineman to be a first rounder to be good I know you jest but i really worry it may be this one.

dlockz
12-22-2011, 08:06 PM
...[/sarcasm]

damn my meter was off lol

dlockz
12-22-2011, 08:07 PM
I think he was being sarcastic. What kind of retarded front office needs every olineman to be a first rounder to be good

our obviously see u spend 5 years on the 3 years on dl and by year 10 u have a contender lol

PortFin
12-22-2011, 08:11 PM
Well that pretty much takes away our shot at getting a great QB in round one. I doubt RG3 will be around when we pick. I would go with BPA at this point. No sense dealing away draft picks as this point. Maybe we can acquire Peyton Manning?

I have to admit I won't like the decision if we trade for Peyton. The guy could be one hit away from becoming christopher reeves, and we'd have to severely overpay for him. plus, he's not getting any younger

jmphins
12-22-2011, 08:16 PM
I think Case Keenum out of Houston will be the best QB to come out of this years draft

Vertical Limit
12-22-2011, 08:48 PM
I'm all for Tannehill then but man, this hurts............

Vertical Limit
12-22-2011, 08:49 PM
Now these meaningless wins are not looking so good are they. I hope we are not sucking for barkley next year because we couldn't get it right this year!
We won't be in position next year as I'm sure our new coach will bring life to our team and probably get us 8-8.... It's Tannehill or bust now.. You can thank Sparano for another year of mediocrity @ all the mediocrity lovers on this board.

Dolph N.Fan
12-22-2011, 09:23 PM
If Henne is not off the roster by next season prepare for another losing season. I would trade his *** for a 5th or a 6th.

Only way to trade Henne would be to re-sign him.

CalDolFan10x14
12-22-2011, 09:27 PM
We won't be in position next year as I'm sure our new coach will bring life to our team and probably get us 8-8.... It's Tannehill or bust now.. You can thank Sparano for another year of mediocrity @ all the mediocrity lovers on this board.

I love how you always think it's the fans' fault that this team is mired in mediocrity. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Vertical Limit
12-22-2011, 09:30 PM
No where in the post am I blaming the fans but I do find it highly stupid when the same people rooting for wins are now crying that Barkley is not declaring. You can't have it both ways.

CalDolFan10x14
12-22-2011, 09:58 PM
No where in the post am I blaming the fans but I do find it highly stupid when the same people rooting for wins are now crying that Barkley is not declaring. You can't have it both ways.

What's wrong with that? People want to see their team win no matter what, but they also wanted a shot at one of the better QBs in college. If Barkley would've come out, we still could've had a good shot at him with a top 5-10 pick. Now that one of our draft options is not available people are naturally going to be upset. I don't see the stupidity there. :idk:

LordPicklewagon
12-22-2011, 10:01 PM
What's wrong with that? People want to see their team win no matter what, but they also wanted a shot at one of the better QBs in college. If Barkley would've come out, we still could've had a good shot at him with a top 5-10 pick. Now that one of our draft options is not available people are naturally going to be upset. I don't see the stupidity there. :idk:

I don't see the stupidity but I definitely see the hypocrisy.

CalDolFan10x14
12-22-2011, 10:13 PM
I don't see the stupidity but I definitely see the hypocrisy.

Wanting what's potentially best for the team but still wanting them to perform at a high level is hypocrisy? Well that's new to me. Sounds like that could be millions of fans around the world. To each his own opinion of what hypocrisy means, I guess.

LordPicklewagon
12-22-2011, 10:22 PM
Wanting what's potentially best for the team but still wanting them to perform at a high level is hypocrisy? Well that's new to me. Sounds like that could be millions of fans around the world. To each his own opinion of what hypocrisy means, I guess.

No, the hypocrisy lies in hoping for something that directly has a detrimental effect on something else and then acting upset when that something else is eliminated. You are unhappy that we don't have a chance to draft Barkley but you were rooting for us to be in a position to not even get him. That to me is the hypocrisy. And yes, fans do it all the time.

Billk78
12-22-2011, 11:31 PM
ANyone else like Keenum out of Houston?

Kistner10
12-22-2011, 11:43 PM
I hope he has a good right tackle, because the good one they had this year is definitely getting drafted.

Kalil was a LT, and Audrey Walker is the next man up and yeah he's pretty good.

Vaark
12-23-2011, 12:36 AM
How about the Colts fans wearing Luck jerseys to games after week three? Where's their karmic retribution?

Another cold serving of Karma for Polian, Irsay and the Fans. She's not a ***** to be trifled with! What goes around comes around.

phinfan13
12-23-2011, 12:43 AM
I have been saying this a couple of times. Barkley had not declared so the was one of the possibilities.
Right now i would say Moore is our starter and Henne signs a 2 year deal to play back up.
Next year our QB position will likely be the same subtract Losman and add Henne.
We should take the best players available and bolster our offense and pass rush.

Henne better not be on this team next year. It would be a much better idea to sign a guy like Jason Campbell and have him back up or compete for the starting job.

Valandui
12-23-2011, 12:51 AM
Another cold serving of Karma for Polian, Irsay and the Fans. She's not a ***** to be trifled with! What goes around comes around.
Definitely happy about this. Colts fans I know are obnoxious as Hell.

Vaark
12-23-2011, 01:25 AM
Definitely happy about this. Colts fans I know are obnoxious as Hell.

Like I said... you root against your team, you're going against the natural order of things, then don't be surprised by or complain about the bad juju you've reaped.

Still and all, on one of their larger boards, they're happy and celebrating, not whining, pissing and moaning like on an other board we all know. :idk:

http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=9f4fab0a3237411ab7c9b04fe61d3615&f=2 (http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2)

DolphinDynasty
12-23-2011, 01:25 AM
Its OK. We should give Matt Moore the 2012 season, draft Justin Blackmon if he's available and if Moore struggles snag Barkley next year.

SMadison29
12-23-2011, 01:48 AM
Kalil was a LT, and Audrey Walker is the next man up and yeah he's pretty good.

More than likely Kevin Graf will be moved to LT & Walker will play RT or probably kicked inside to compete at RG. Walker is way too heavy & not quick enough to play LT. Walker came into school weighing 340 & is now up to 375. USC is also hoping to land top recruit Andrus Peat who could come & compete to start right away.

SMadison29
12-23-2011, 01:53 AM
I think Iowa tackle Riley Reiff is the pick now. Long & Reiff solidify our tackle positions for years to come. If we pick 8th as many predict there's not a safety, pass rush LB, or most likely a QB worth taking. Reiff can play left & right tackle in the event Long gets hurt which will provide us a huge insurance policy. An OLB like Ronnell Lewis, Brandon Jenkins, or possibly SS Mark Barron if he falls in the second round would help build the talent of our team. Just don't reach for a QB

dolphindan1970
12-23-2011, 02:32 AM
Concerning the original news and post that Barkley is staying in school and wont come out this year !

Dam it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kistner10
12-23-2011, 02:33 AM
More than likely Kevin Graf will be moved to LT & Walker will play RT or probably kicked inside to compete at RG. Walker is way too heavy & not quick enough to play LT. Walker came into school weighing 340 & is now up to 375. USC is also hoping to land top recruit Andrus Peat who could come & compete to start right away.

Kiffin hasn't commented on what the plan is so far, but Scott Wolf and some other USC insiders believe Walker is next in line. He's a big guy, but very athletic. He actually played pretty well in his limited playing time, but I guess Kiffin wasn't happy with his practice habits. They have a commit from Max Tuerk who is a nice 4 star recruit, but I doubt they're going to start a freshman, whether it's him or Peat, at LT for this upcoming year. They could possibly get some PT at RT if they end up moving Graf. From what I've read so far though I think Walker is their first choice at LT.

DevilInPgh
12-23-2011, 02:50 AM
ANyone else like Keenum out of Houston?

I have three names: Andre Ware, David Klingler, and Kevin Kolb. Stay away from Keenum like the f'n plague! I may seriously have to reconsider my Dolphins fanship if the Fins draft Keenum.

DevilInPgh
12-23-2011, 02:54 AM
And on another note, I would just like to thank Sparano, Ireland, and Ross for completely tearing apart the fanbase. On the one side, we have the "Win at all costs, even if it means you miss out on the next HOF QB and stay mediocre for the next 5 years" crowd. And on the other side, we have the SFLers. Both sides have decent points, yet both sides are completely f'n nuts and delusional. We might as well start talking about the LA Dolphins, because without an All-Pro QB in the next two seasons, I don't know how this franchise can be repaired, from the fanbase up.

Kistner10
12-23-2011, 03:06 AM
And on another note, I would just like to thank Sparano, Ireland, and Ross for completely tearing apart the fanbase. On the one side, we have the "Win at all costs, even if it means you miss out on the next HOF QB and stay mediocre for the next 5 years" crowd. And on the other side, we have the SFLers. Both sides have decent points, yet both sides are completely f'n nuts and delusional. We might as well start talking about the LA Dolphins, because without an All-Pro QB in the next two seasons, I don't know how this franchise can be repaired, from the fanbase up.

SF is 11-3 and a legit Super Bowl Contender this year without a prototypical franchise QB. Relax, keep building the talent base of this team up and keep taking smart chances on potential franchise QB's. All you need is 1 to hit.

LANGER72
12-23-2011, 03:41 AM
Henne better not be on this team next year. It would be a much better idea to sign a guy like Jason Campbell and have him back up or compete for the starting job.

Jason Campbell ? :chuckle: Pure Garbage..you are being sarcastic right?

The only reason I mentioned Henne is because that is what Ireland would probably do if he is still around.
If the status quo remains, Ireland will resign Henne because he knows the system, get him cheap, and as a back up, he would be solid. A stop gap back up if no other upgrades are available, if you will.
Matt Moore is playing pretty damm good football right now. Is he Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, or Brady ? ...not even close. Those guys are rare. However, Moore is ranked 12th in QB efficiency after a slow start. To me, he is a upper 2nd tier guy at this point due to our competition. Let's see how he does against NE and NY. I think he will do well.
Sure, it would have been fantastic to draft Luck, Barkley, or RGIII. It ain't happening.

Kistner10
12-23-2011, 03:52 AM
Jason Campbell ? :chuckle: Pure Garbage..you are being sarcastic right?

The only reason I mentioned Henne is because that is what Ireland would probably do if he is still around.
If the status quo remains, Ireland will resign Henne because he knows the system, get him cheap, and as a back up, he would be solid. A stop gap back up if no other upgrades are available, if you will.
Matt Moore is playing pretty damm good football right now. Is he Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, or Brady ? ...not even close. Those guys are rare. However, Moore is ranked 12th in QB efficiency after a slow start. To me, he is a upper 2nd tier guy at this point due to our competition. Let's see how he does against NE and NY. I think he will do well.
Sure, it would have been fantastic to draft Luck, Barkley, or RGIII. It ain't happening.

I don't think Jason Campbell would be bad as a Backup to Moore if we can't find a QB in the draft.