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jim1
12-27-2011, 01:25 PM
Miami Dolphins: Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
This has frustrated some Dolphin fans, but Matt Moore has been good enough to win Miami out of the Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin sweepstakes. He'll be the starter next year.

Instead of a quarterback, here's a much-needed upgrade for the offensive line. Marc Colombo stinks. He can't block anyone. Of the nine sacks the Dolphins surrendered against the Eagles, Colombo was responsible for three of them. Upgrading the right tackle position has to be Miami's No. 1 priority if it can't land a franchise signal-caller.

Miami Dolphins: Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson
Tony Sparano's firing means that Anthony Fasano is done in Miami as well. Dwayne Allen, an absolute stud who could make it into the first round of this mock soon, would be a great weapon for Matt Moore.

Miami Dolphins: Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, Marshall
The only player on the Dolphins who can consistently pressure the quarterback is Cameron Wake. This is an area that absolutely needs to be addressed this upcoming offseason.

Five Brandons projected to go ahead of Weeden. Amazing.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2012.php

hooshoops
12-27-2011, 01:33 PM
fail first and 3rd round picks...fail...ot for us in the top 10 auto fail...

Cumar
12-27-2011, 02:03 PM
Five Brandons projected to go ahead of Weeden. Amazing.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2012.php

I'll say it again, Brandon Weeden is not going in the 1st and probably won't go until a QB starved team needs him in the 2nd. With that, I could see QB starved teams passing on him in the 2nd and him falling into the 3rd or 4th.

ChambersWI
12-27-2011, 02:04 PM
yeah unless Weeden destroys it at the combine, I don't see him going anywhere near the top 3 rounds let alone top 2. This is the only place that people really like Weeden

hooshoops
12-27-2011, 02:10 PM
has weeden gotten an invite to the senior bowl???

miami234ever
12-27-2011, 02:24 PM
has weeden gotten an invite to the senior bowl???

Yea:

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ChambersWI
12-27-2011, 02:24 PM
has weeden gotten an invite to the senior bowl???

here's a list from SCDC

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49627

As of right now, no Weeden has not been invited. Wilson, Moore, and Tannehill are the only QBs confirmed so far

hooshoops
12-27-2011, 02:28 PM
Yea:

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ha ha...well played sir...well played

hooshoops
12-27-2011, 02:32 PM
here's a list from SCDC

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49627

As of right now, no Weeden has not been invited. Wilson, Moore, and Tannehill are the only QBs confirmed so far

he needs an opportunity to showcase himself in front of the scouts for a week like this one to help his stock...but at the end of the day his grades gonna suffer cause of the age...not a darn thing he can do about it either

no matter what he does though i bet he's a 50-75 pick prospect...not any earlier but we'll see

b/t that list of names is not the most exciting right now...i'd like to see more talent than that on the field that week

ChambersWI
12-27-2011, 02:36 PM
he needs an opportunity to showcase himself in front of the scouts for a week like this one to help his stock...but at the end of the day his grades gonna suffer cause of the age...not a darn thing he can do about it either

no matter what he does though i bet he's a 50-75 pick prospect...not any earlier but we'll see

I'd agree he needs the week especially since he wouldn't be in Okie State's offense. MY personal opinion is that guys like Tannehill and Wilson (who played in pro style offenses) will gain a lot of love at the Senior Bowl. I think Kellen Moore will also impress teams.

hooshoops
12-27-2011, 02:39 PM
ahhh so if weeden goes he's gonna have to take pro drops...he better be working on his 3 5 and 7 step drops then...interesting...cam newton didn't look great taking pro drops predraft so i think teams are gonna be ok with a learning curve there...that said if i'm drafting weeden with a top 40 pick or so i think i'm gonna do so to primarily play to what he's familiar with and has shown strengths in...spread

hooshoops
12-27-2011, 02:41 PM
scouts are gonna love tannehills physical tools at the senior bowl week...no question about that...i'm sure he'll be a stock up guy all that week...i just don't love the game tape with him

jim1
12-27-2011, 02:44 PM
I'll say it again, Brandon Weeden is not going in the 1st and probably won't go until a QB starved team needs him in the 2nd. With that, I could see QB starved teams passing on him in the 2nd and him falling into the 3rd or 4th.

I don't think that NFL teams who need a QB and know how to properly rate one will let that happen. He's just too damn good- if people disagree, so be it. He'll turn 36 in his 8th year, that's enough time to have a very good career. We all have our differing opinions, but personally when I watch Weeden play I see a very special talent, and I don't think that his talent will be denied in a QB driven and QB starved NFL.

ChambersWI
12-27-2011, 02:47 PM
I think there's a bit of a difference between Cam and Weeden though in the physical gift department.

The thing with Tannehill to remember is that he's played a year and a half at QB after being a WR the rest of his time at A&M so there is still a lot of rawness there.

hooshoops
12-27-2011, 02:48 PM
I think there's a bit of a difference between Cam and Weeden though in the physical gift department.

The thing with Tannehill to remember is that he's played a year and a half at QB after being a WR the rest of his time at A&M so there is still a lot of rawness there.

no doubt...on both fronts...and teams will give tannehill the benefit of the doubt because of the latter...

ChambersWI
12-27-2011, 02:55 PM
as I've said many times, If no junior QBs come out, I have no problem taking a gamble on Ryan Tannehill. I'm just not a huge Weeden fan.

ChrisHanson
12-27-2011, 03:49 PM
fail first and 3rd round picks...fail...ot for us in the top 10 auto fail...

So only Luck or the draft is a "fail"? What do you propose the Dolphins do if they have the 8th pick in the draft in order to move up?

newlownorder
12-27-2011, 04:12 PM
1st round OT isn't a fail, would make a ton of sense if we cant get a QB and certain players are gone already. Right now as I predict the order, we may have to take an OT or try to trade down, hopefully trade down.

LordPicklewagon
12-27-2011, 04:34 PM
Ugh....thats why im really gonna hate where we end up picking. Claiborne and Blackmon will be picked right before us. Im worried(and i pray that im wrong) that Landry Jones will be sitting right there and our FO will highly consider taking him. It maybe the best value but i just cant stomach drafting another OL especially with a top ten pick. Im not sure about Richardson with the emergence of Bush. Courtney Upshaw is intriguing but im not sure if hes a reach if we are drafting top 8. Do we take a look at Kuechly? If we decide to go OL id rather see if we can trade down some spots and get DeCastro. Im sure opinions will change greatly during the bowl games and combine but if we cant get luck i have no strong feelings to any particular player with that top pick at all. Why couldnt there be an Eric Berry or Earl Thomas this draft? Sigh. On a side note im really curious who winds up drafting that headcase known as Vontaze Burfict.

With the way the TE has been such an integral part in todays passing game would i be crazy in wanting Allen in the 2nd and Fleener in the 3rd.

hooshoops
12-27-2011, 04:34 PM
So only Luck or the draft is a "fail"? What do you propose the Dolphins do if they have the 8th pick in the draft in order to move up?

i propose we offer up our first rounder this year and next and some initial offer of one of the following jake long vontae davis cam wake or brandon marshall but in the event thats not enough offer em up a combo of 2 of the players mentioned...

if they want more than that i walk away...thats what i call going all in...you have to give good to get good...i don't know that the rams for instance would want jake or wake given what they have in house and the resources they've invested in the position but i'm damn sure they'd be interested in vontae in a trade down...and very much so...and marshall who knows

and yes fellas top 10 ot for us in this draft is fail...we need to do better than that

Cumar
12-27-2011, 05:39 PM
i propose we offer up our first rounder this year and next and some initial offer of one of the following jake long vontae davis cam wake or brandon marshall but in the event thats not enough offer em up a combo of 2 of the players mentioned...

if they want more than that i walk away...thats what i call going all in...you have to give good to get good...i don't know that the rams for instance would want jake or wake given what they have in house and the resources they've invested in the position but i'm damn sure they'd be interested in vontae in a trade down...and very much so...and marshall who knows

and yes fellas top 10 ot for us in this draft is fail...we need to do better than that

So you want to trade Vontae, Marshall, this year's 1st (call it the 8th pick), and next year's 1st (probably another Top 10 pick)? I think that's just a little too much, don't you? I mean, we have some talent in place today that we have either drafted or acquired through trade. This team is a lot closer than their record. Do we want to self-destruct that? I mean, I know Luck is going to be a very good QB in this league, but that just seems like an awful lot.

Now, what if the Rams say no. You say walk away and keep your pick. Who do you take. RGIII is gone, Blackmon is gone. I could definitely see one of the OLB's, but what if they don't really like any of the guys there and they can't trade out of the pick. Are you really taking Tannenhill or Weeden with the 8th pick???? It could just be that an OT is the best available player on the board and it's the right pick. Believe me, I don't love the pick either, but it may be the only pick. In light of that, it can't be a fail if they exhaust all options (within reason) to get Luck or try to trade out of the pick.

hooshoops
12-27-2011, 05:56 PM
it probably is a bit much...ideally you get away with 2 #1's and vontae to which i'd be where do i sign if the rams would take it...but i know without any doubt that if the rams get that pick and put that pick out there in trade you better be ready to anty up cause there will be plenty of suitors...personally i don't think our top 10 pick a 1st next year and vontae will be enough i think it will get trumped but thats just me...essentially though they could view that as 3 top 20 picks so maybe...

as for what i'd do if we can't get luck i've been racking my brain over it and personally i'm not in love with the talent available to us even at that pick...we're in a tough spot...i know that much

as for the fail stuff imo top 10 ot for us is fail but in the event we go all out to try and acquire the pick for andrew luck and they still don't bite whoever has the pick thats all i can ask for...but we need to make it known that we want to be in that bidding should it present itself...