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thefranchisedef
01-02-2012, 04:07 AM
He will be in a dolphin uniform. I promise you that! I just can feel it.

sinPHIN
01-02-2012, 04:56 AM
i have a good feeling that we will make a splash some how in this draft

MiamiDolfan85
01-02-2012, 05:38 AM
whether mass majority likes it or not, Ireland has no choice but to "splash" this off-season. He's really gonna have to pull something out of his ***.....IMO, his job status is a hovering 55-45.


I too, believe if a QB isnt signed in FA(doubt it) you can almost expect to see Griffin in a Phins uni


....this is my first on FH, so I dont throw this term out often at all but you can "book it!"

Hayden Fox
01-02-2012, 08:33 AM
Such a bad move to sell the farm for him.

Valandui
01-02-2012, 10:24 AM
God, I hope not. If people don't want to take Weeden because of limited shelf life, how will they feel when RG3 pulls a Ricky on us and retires after his rookie contract to pursue his other interests? Weeden's at least ready to play QB right now.

Ricky4Life
01-02-2012, 12:15 PM
I would rather have Weeden then RG3.

lil tom digby
01-02-2012, 01:37 PM
The QB that really intrigues me is Ryan Lindleny. He's a 4 year starter that operates a pro style offense. He's used to coming out from under center, play action and turning his back to the defense. Canon for an arm, and from the film I've been able to watch, he's not a dinker and dunker, he gets the ball down the field.

FINFAN15
01-02-2012, 01:58 PM
Such a bad move to sell the farm for him.

I love the comment sell the farm.If you really look at it the farmer has shown he cant plant the right crop.So selling the farm as you put it wont really make a difference unless we get a new farmer.

3rdandinches
01-02-2012, 03:30 PM
God, I hope not. If people don't want to take Weeden because of limited shelf life, how will they feel when RG3 pulls a Ricky on us and retires after his rookie contract to pursue his other interests? Weeden's at least ready to play QB right now.

Or how about when he pulls a P.White and runs the ball and gets crushed and then decides his career isn't worth it. Or how about when he isn't any good as a NFL QB, when he bails on every drop back.

Pass please.

Valandui
01-02-2012, 04:34 PM
Or how about when he pulls a P.White and runs the ball and gets crushed and then decides his career isn't worth it. Or how about when he isn't any good as a NFL QB, when he bails on every drop back.

Pass please.
I was trying to be nice, but those are all valid points.

rainmaker1313
01-02-2012, 04:58 PM
I'm going to be the first to say that we will have rg3 as our first round pick.

The first??? really?? no one else has said this ????? LOL

AllFinsAllDay
01-02-2012, 11:28 PM
Or how about when he pulls a P.White and runs the ball and gets crushed and then decides his career isn't worth it. Or how about when he isn't any good as a NFL QB, when he bails on every drop back.

Pass please.

If we did draft him i think he would sit a year behind Moore.

DcRy82
01-03-2012, 11:47 AM
Or how about when he pulls a P.White and runs the ball and gets crushed and then decides his career isn't worth it. Or how about when he isn't any good as a NFL QB, when he bails on every drop back.

Pass please.

You'd pass on RGIII, but draft a RB in the top 10? I dont think Richardson will even last til 10th. But if you're looking for an offensive playmaker, why not somebody like Blackmon or Jeffries (if they last til 10th) on the other side of Marshall?

ChrisHanson
01-03-2012, 12:26 PM
I would rather have Weeden then RG3.

You think we will be able to draft Weeden then RG3?

:chuckle:

dolfan91
01-03-2012, 12:47 PM
I'm going to be the 1st to say RGIII will be a BUST!!!

SMadison29
01-03-2012, 02:24 PM
Don't think we'll be selling the farm for anyone not named Luck. I like RGIII but I think we're gonna stick with Moore. He's capable of winning, finishing this season 6-3 & finished 4-1 for the 09 Panthers.

3rdandinches
01-03-2012, 03:17 PM
You'd pass on RGIII, but draft a RB in the top 10? I dont think Richardson will even last til 10th. But if you're looking for an offensive playmaker, why not somebody like Blackmon or Jeffries (if they last til 10th) on the other side of Marshall?

To get RG3 we have to trade a boat load of picks to move up, he`s not falling to 9. Blackmon won`t sniff anything outside of the top 5 let a lone the top 3. I haven`t seen much of Jeffries but the need for a big slowish receiver doesn`t interest me. Richardson is not just a RB he`s suppose to be a special back in the mold of AP special. That would make a big difference in our offense, a play maker to go along with Marshall and Bess, he`d give Moore easier reads with the defense having to focus on bringing the safties up.

Don`t get me wrong I would trade up for Blackmon, I think he`s going to be L.Fitz good in the NFL. I would trade up for A.Luck - selling the "farm", he make us instant contenders.

RG3 has too many red flags (for me), he is an injury away from being done. I know every player is an injury away but he`s a running QB, he`s not Cam big, he`s much closer to P.White big. He bails out of the pocket instantly and I think that is a very difficult habit to break. He has clearly stated football is not number 1, that`s a flag I`m not willing to over look. He can easily take a couple head shots and look at another career faster then any typical QB. I am not one to believe his ceiling is as high as some around here like to think - even if he surpassed M.Vick as a QB talent I don`t believe M.Vick could ever win the SB. Add everything up and there`s too much that can go wrong for what your getting.

Of course it`s my opinion but I think T.Richardson could be available at number 8/9 and would make a bigger impact then any other available selection there. I`m high on C.Upshaw as well and I wouldn`t cry in D.DeCastro was the selection. Blackmon is a dream pick but one I do not think will ever be an option for us - St.Lou/Minnie/Cleve/Wash/Jack all desperately need him.

GADOLPHIN
01-03-2012, 03:51 PM
It is about time the Dolphins make huge move to get a QB and if that means selling the farm to get RG3, do it. The Dolphins have been playing it safe for over 20 years with QB. What would have Cam Newton done with the Dolphins this year? RG3 is pretty close to his talent. If we go again with QB that had mediocre talent in the NFL and played 2 good games in NFL(Flynn) - Feely or 2nd round QB, do I need to list them all?

rainmaker1313
01-03-2012, 04:01 PM
by the way we played the 2nd half, I would rather draft another WR. OL, safety and TE (Fleener)
Can you imagine Clay and Fleener???
Blackmon and Marshall??
Bush from the 1st game the way he is playing and improvement on the OL and secondary and a NEW COACH!!!

dolfan91
01-03-2012, 04:09 PM
by the way we played the 2nd half, I would rather draft another WR. OL, safety and TE (Fleener)
Can you imagine Clay and Fleener???
Blackmon and Marshall??
Bush from the 1st game the way he is playing and improvement on the OL and secondary and a NEW COACH!!!If Miami had Marshall, Blackmon, Bush, Fleener and Clay .. there wouldn't be a need for Viagra!!! LMAO!!!

ChrisHanson
01-03-2012, 04:11 PM
To get RG3 we have to trade a boat load of picks to move up, he`s not falling to 9. Blackmon won`t sniff anything outside of the top 5 let a lone the top 3. I haven`t seen much of Jeffries but the need for a big slowish receiver doesn`t interest me. Richardson is not just a RB he`s suppose to be a special back in the mold of AP special. That would make a big difference in our offense, a play maker to go along with Marshall and Bess, he`d give Moore easier reads with the defense having to focus on bringing the safties up.

Don`t get me wrong I would trade up for Blackmon, I think he`s going to be L.Fitz good in the NFL. I would trade up for A.Luck - selling the "farm", he make us instant contenders.

RG3 has too many red flags (for me), he is an injury away from being done. I know every player is an injury away but he`s a running QB, he`s not Cam big, he`s much closer to P.White big. He bails out of the pocket instantly and I think that is a very difficult habit to break. He has clearly stated football is not number 1, that`s a flag I`m not willing to over look. He can easily take a couple head shots and look at another career faster then any typical QB. I am not one to believe his ceiling is as high as some around here like to think - even if he surpassed M.Vick as a QB talent I don`t believe M.Vick could ever win the SB. Add everything up and there`s too much that can go wrong for what your getting.

Of course it`s my opinion but I think T.Richardson could be available at number 8/9 and would make a bigger impact then any other available selection there. I`m high on C.Upshaw as well and I wouldn`t cry in D.DeCastro was the selection. Blackmon is a dream pick but one I do not think will ever be an option for us - St.Lou/Minnie/Cleve/Wash/Jack all desperately need him.

Aaron Rodgers is only about 5 lbs heavier than RG3 and the same height. RG3 is also 7-8 years younger meaning he will most likely be a bigger QB than Rodgers when all is said and done. RG3 is 15-18 lbs heavier than Moore, who is an inch taller than RG3. Meaning, Moore is the slighter build of the two. Moore is also about 7 years his elder. Pat White is 2" shorter and 20lbs lighter than RG3.

I'm not sure who started the "RG3 isn't big enough" crap, but it seems whomever did has influenced a lot of people and has done so with false info.

Valandui
01-03-2012, 04:24 PM
Aaron Rodgers is only about 5 lbs heavier than RG3 and the same height. RG3 is also 7-8 years younger meaning he will most likely be a bigger QB than Rodgers when all is said and done. RG3 is 15-18 lbs heavier than Moore, who is an inch taller than RG3. Meaning, Moore is the slighter build of the two. Moore is also about 7 years his elder. Pat White is 2" shorter and 20lbs lighter than RG3.

I'm not sure who started the "RG3 isn't big enough" crap, but it seems whomever did has influenced a lot of people and has done so with false info.
Pat White was 6'1", 210 lbs before he got to the combine too. I seriously doubt that RG3 is as big as is being claimed.

ChrisHanson
01-03-2012, 04:46 PM
Pat White was 6'1", 210 lbs before he got to the combine too. I seriously doubt that RG3 is as big as is being claimed.

RG3 is closer to 6'2" than White is to 6'1". In fact, I bet he is all of that 6'2". Look at him compared to his OL. He can see well over their heads while in the pocket. I do believe RG3, right now, is probably closer to 210 than 220, but again, he's 21 years old. One season with an NFL trainer, and when he also stops training for the hurdles, I bet he surpasses 220. The kid has no fat on him (sprinter-like) and his lower body is skinny (relatively) to the rest of his body. That too is indicative of a sprinter and will be fixed by an NFL trainer and age.

mfish41
01-03-2012, 08:35 PM
God, I hope not. If people don't want to take Weeden because of limited shelf life, how will they feel when RG3 pulls a Ricky on us and retires after his rookie contract to pursue his other interests? Weeden's at least ready to play QB right now.

i think there are questions with RGIII, but i do not think this is one of them. If he really wants to get his JD, he can work with whatever school he wants to go to and go on the Steve Young plan. If he is a very good NFL player i don't think he's going to walk away from the giant pay day he will receive after his rookie contract. If he's not, i don't think it will matter if he chooses to walk away at that point. Ricky Williams was mentally unstable when he retired and also played the brutal rb position. As far as i can recall the early notable retirements that come to mind are all RB's (Ricky, Robert Smith, Barry Sanders, etc).

insom187
01-04-2012, 03:53 AM
The Fins just need to draft a playmaker. If Richardson is there i take him and figure out what to do with thomas later. I dont think Blackmon will fall to us unless another WR makes a huge splash at the combine and passes him (as in Heyward Bay over Crabtree a few years ago) so an impact RB looks like the best chance. In the end I think suring up the right side of the line and finding an OLB are our biggest needs but at this point I just need a big flashy name to feel excited about the season. I hate saying that but its true after years of mediocrity.

realdolphin
01-04-2012, 04:06 AM
Lindley, weeden and tannehill are intriguing. i say we dont need to trade up. luck and RG3 will be gone i wouldnt like to loose picks to get RG3. i would for luck but not more than 2 first rounders and a player.

thefranchisedef
01-04-2012, 04:27 PM
lmao... 220 is too small! then what the hell is matt moore?
Donovan McNabb was the same height and 3 pounds heavier when he was drafted.
Steve Young was 6'2 215 (same type of quarterback)
Jim Kelly was 6'3 217
Randall Cunningham 6'4 215
John Elway 6'3 215
Matt Barkley 6'2 (lol) 220
Brett Favre coming into the draft was 6'2 220!!!!!

basically, shut up about his freakin size.. most of the hall of fame quarterbacks were similarly sized.

Valandui
01-04-2012, 04:37 PM
lmao... 220 is too small! then what the hell is matt moore?
Donovan McNabb was the same height and 3 pounds heavier when he was drafted.
Steve Young was 6'2 215 (same type of quarterback)
Jim Kelly was 6'3 217
Randall Cunningham 6'4 215
John Elway 6'3 215
Matt Barkley 6'2 (lol) 220
Brett Favre coming into the draft was 6'2 220!!!!!

basically, shut up about his freakin size.. most of the hall of fame quarterbacks were similarly sized.
220 isn't too small. I just seriously doubt that he actually is 220.

thefranchisedef
01-04-2012, 04:53 PM
RG3 is closer to 6'2" than White is to 6'1". In fact, I bet he is all of that 6'2". Look at him compared to his OL. He can see well over their heads while in the pocket. I do believe RG3, right now, is probably closer to 210 than 220, but again, he's 21 years old. One season with an NFL trainer, and when he also stops training for the hurdles, I bet he surpasses 220. The kid has no fat on him (sprinter-like) and his lower body is skinny (relatively) to the rest of his body. That too is indicative of a sprinter and will be fixed by an NFL trainer and age.

http://images.dyestat.com/Features/08Preview/griffin/GriffinTXRelays.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jrkEgLmDKKQ/SjNCOTv7qVI/AAAAAAAAAWs/VCtAYpKypGY/s320/Pat-White-Combine.jpg

If you want to compare these two guys then understand that pat white has a smaller bone structure. He is 2 inches smaller, and he is no where near as broad. Pat whites core is no where near the size of rg3. Pat white also shows alot more muscle development in his arms. oh and to correct, the original poster- Pat white was labeled at 6'1 192 in college. so, um.... where did you get 210?

Noodleman
01-04-2012, 07:33 PM
I love how all these RG3 "experts" are saying he will be a bust, he is too small, he is going to quit. Since when is someone who is intelligent a negative for the QB position? He is a smart guy, well spoken, fast as hell and did I mention he is smart? Seriously, is the guy a risk? of course but so are ALL draft picks. The fact is this team has gone the safe route for years and it hasnt worked. COmplain all you want about him and make all your predictions....that means nothing because none of you have any clue how good he will be! The guy was amazing in college and deserves to be picked high. Miami needs to make a big splash....RG3 fits that! Draft the guy!

Hayden Fox
01-04-2012, 08:25 PM
RGIII's measurements at the combine are going to be one of the biggest offseason stories.

Hayden Fox
01-04-2012, 09:01 PM
I do not want to send the farm...but I so confident that Mr. Ross WILL if he cannot get Manning in FA.

RGIII will be a Fin next year.

WelcomeBack
01-04-2012, 09:10 PM
Giving up so much to come away with RG3 will be a disappointment in my book.

Hayden Fox
01-04-2012, 09:39 PM
Giving up so much to come away with RG3 will be a disappointment in my book.

I agree. I can just see it happening.

I think the kid has some talent and has the "it" factor, but I am not interested in trading 4 premium picks to go get him...Luck I would, but I think that idea is pretty much shot at this point

WelcomeBack
01-05-2012, 12:10 AM
I agree. I can just see it happening.

I think the kid has some talent and has the "it" factor, but I am not interested in trading 4 premium picks to go get him...Luck I would, but I think that idea is pretty much shot at this point

ONLY trade up should be for Luck. Other than that, you stay put and weigh the options or you trade down and try to get more picks or one next year.

footsteps_falco
01-05-2012, 12:43 PM
i dont think the colts can turn down four 1st rounders. thats what i'd give up for luck. atleast you have a decent team in place. late round picks to add depth and free agency as well. why trade for RG3 might as well get luck if your willing to make a trade

J. David Wannyheimer
01-05-2012, 03:40 PM
i dont think the colts can turn down four 1st rounders. thats what i'd give up for luck. atleast you have a decent team in place. late round picks to add depth and free agency as well. why trade for RG3 might as well get luck if your willing to make a trade As ridiculous as it is to give up four first rounders for a guy who has never played a down in the NFL, at this point I'm so sick of watching inconsistent, trash QB play that I'd probably be okay with this.