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scottieUK
01-10-2012, 06:26 PM
..........coz the Browns will out bid anything Miami can offer.

The Browns have two 1st round picks. The Colts stay at 1 and take Luck, the Rams trade with the Browns and then pick Blackmon at 4, the Browns therefore get RGIII at 2.

So, IMO, Miami need to get Flynn or do what no one seems to want, draft a lower round qb. Personally, I wanted to trade up, but the Browns have too much to offer.

I now hope Miami go after Flynn.

J. David Wannyheimer
01-10-2012, 06:29 PM
Counterpoint, how do you know that the Browns will try to trade up? That team is pretty much devoid of talent. I think it is much more likely that Holmgren will try to sign Matt Flynn (a west coast offense QB) and use his picks to scoop up talent to fill Cleveland's many glaring holes.

LANGER72
01-10-2012, 06:30 PM
All of this makes sense, but some teams further back may take out second and third mortgages on the farm..
That 2nd spot is going to go to the highest bidder.

scottieUK
01-10-2012, 06:33 PM
Both fair comments.

What I'm really saying is that if the Browns really want that 2nd pick, then I think they'll get it.

Mogwai
01-10-2012, 06:41 PM
Vikes could steal Blackmon away if the Rams did that, but Khalil would be a good consolation. Cle could very easily roll the dice that RG3 would slip to them at 4 and then get leapfrogged by a more aggressive team. Part of me would rather we trade back and gain assets for Barkley next year, but that's unrealistic as teams with uncertain situations can't play the long game.

J. David Wannyheimer
01-10-2012, 06:44 PM
If we can't trade up for Luck or Griffin, I would like to see us just take Weeden with the 9th pick.



You may tar and feather me now.

miamiron
01-10-2012, 06:58 PM
If we can't trade up for Luck or Griffin, I would like to see us just take Weeden with the 9th pick.



You may tar and feather me now.

One thing
you won't have to worry about Weeden being available at #9

TheWarriorFins
01-10-2012, 06:59 PM
I would die from shock if we trade up in the draft.

BARF
01-10-2012, 07:01 PM
simple solution, i would just tank this season and draft barkley next year.

Mudder1310
01-10-2012, 07:06 PM
I don't think you can spend a 1st rd pick on a guy who will only be in the league for 5 years max. Weeden can't be your 1st rd pick, he can't start immediately, and his upside is limited. You'd be better off trading the pick for Flynn.

As things sit, we could trade down a few picks and still get someone like Decastro and add picks for depth elsewhere. Heck, we could get someone like Chris Polk around #15, an immediate impact player.

Danny
01-10-2012, 07:24 PM
If Ireland is still with us we'll draft a RT at 9

Ozzy rules!!

TrojanFin
01-10-2012, 07:48 PM
I say the phins pick up Flynn in FA... let him know that he's the guy so he'll come here. Trade Matt Moore, whose stock has peaked, to the Browns and swap firsts, so we can pick up Blackmon with the 4th overall pick. Draft a TE like Fleener in the 2nd, and a project QB like Foles or Cousins in the 3rd. Pick up additional FA's at the positions of S, LB and OL and or do BPA at those spots in the later rounds of the draft.

foycore79
01-10-2012, 10:29 PM
Then again the Browns could decide to get richer and trade down

broccoli rob
01-10-2012, 10:33 PM
What if Fisher goes to the Rams and Ross talks the new GM and coach into throw a couple 1sts at em, maybe a wr (not marshall).

Njphinsfan
01-10-2012, 10:33 PM
I say the phins pick up Flynn in FA... let him know that he's the guy so he'll come here. Trade Matt Moore, whose stock has peaked, to the Browns and swap firsts, so we can pick up Blackmon with the 4th overall pick. Draft a TE like Fleener in the 2nd, and a project QB like Foles or Cousins in the 3rd. Pick up additional FA's at the positions of S, LB and OL and or do BPA at those spots in the later rounds of the draft.
If all of this happens, I would be very happy!!

jason_taylor
01-10-2012, 11:15 PM
I say the phins pick up Flynn in FA... let him know that he's the guy so he'll come here. Trade Matt Moore, whose stock has peaked, to the Browns and swap firsts, so we can pick up Blackmon with the 4th overall pick. Draft a TE like Fleener in the 2nd, and a project QB like Foles or Cousins in the 3rd. Pick up additional FA's at the positions of S, LB and OL and or do BPA at those spots in the later rounds of the draft.

i agree 110% awsome moves ,hell get in here GM and go to work . lol

MRojas4
01-11-2012, 08:22 AM
If the Browns were smart they would just sign Matt Flynn and draft Claiborne with their 4th pick and Richardson with their late first rounder.

I feel Richardson will drop to late first like Ingram did.

broccoli rob
01-11-2012, 08:23 AM
Trade up for RG3 by any means necessary

Yonk1216
01-11-2012, 12:09 PM
Vikes could steal Blackmon away if the Rams did that, but Khalil would be a good consolation. Cle could very easily roll the dice that RG3 would slip to them at 4 and then get leapfrogged by a more aggressive team. Part of me would rather we trade back and gain assets for Barkley next year, but that's unrealistic as teams with uncertain situations can't play the long game.

This is the plan IMO.... unless you think we can go 10-6 next year with Moore chances are we will be a 7-9 8-8 team with the weak schedule we face. Unless someone amazing falls to us when we pick... I think we trade back to the mid 20's and try and acquire another 1st next year.... That gives us 2 firsts plus the rest of our picks to load up in a trade to get Barkley next season.

SebasMiamiFan
01-11-2012, 12:17 PM
If we can't trade up for Luck or Griffin, I would like to see us just take Weeden with the 9th pick.



You may tar and feather me now.

That's a huge reach. He's a 2nd round QB.

Nawledge
01-11-2012, 12:25 PM
Then again the Browns could decide to get richer and trade down

this would probably be in the Browns best interest, they are not one player away from being contenders. They have alot of holes on that team and more picks sounds more realistic than them trading away picks/players to move up 2 spots.

Gsmack_42
01-11-2012, 12:28 PM
I don't think you can spend a 1st rd pick on a guy who will only be in the league for 5 years max. Weeden can't be your 1st rd pick, he can't start immediately, and his upside is limited. You'd be better off trading the pick for Flynn.

As things sit, we could trade down a few picks and still get someone like Decastro and add picks for depth elsewhere. Heck, we could get someone like Chris Polk around #15, an immediate impact player.

Polk at 15? I'm a big UW fan and I wouldn't take Polk before mid 2nd round. Richardson I'd take at 9 to 15 any day of the week.

Mudder1310
01-11-2012, 02:08 PM
Polk at 15? I'm a big UW fan and I wouldn't take Polk before mid 2nd round. Richardson I'd take at 9 to 15 any day of the week.

15 probably is a reach. Recent numbers suggest Polk is a late 1st, early 2nd. I don't see a whole lot of impact rushers this year, and if RB is how you want to go you may have to reach.