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datruth55
01-16-2012, 08:35 PM
Its a universal thought outside of scouting circles that Oklahoma State junior Justin Blackmon is the number one receiver in April’s NFL draft. But as we have found out that’s not necessarily the case on some draft boards around the league.

Justin Blackmon is a receiver prospect to get excited about. He’s big, electric and athletic. Many rank him as the number one receiver available in the 2012 draft and we’ve likened his skills to those of Terrell Owens.

Yet talk to a few teams and area scouts who patrol the southwest and you’ll find they do not necessarily share the same opinion.

In fact another Big 12 receiver, Kendall Wright of Baylor, adorns the top spot at the receiver position on their draft boards.

Earlier this week we were alerted that several teams, including one NFC team in the playoffs this weekend, grade Wright as the top wide out in the draft. After several conversations with scouts and league insiders we found out this is not an anomaly- many decision makers rate Kendall Wright higher than his Big 12 counterpart.

When teams look at Wright’s film they see the entire receiver package; great speed, quickness, acceleration and more than anything else- tremendous hands. He’s graded as a terrific route runner with barely any stiffness in his game and a prospect that understands the position. Wright’s ability to outrun defenders down the field and beat them in midair for the difficult reception is only surpassed by the consistent separation he gets from opponents in underneath coverage.
http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=5968

I'm surprised and I'm not surprised. He's darn good and depending on what you're looking for in a WR I can see why some would have him rated so high. This should put to rest the RGIII had no talent around him argument though.

Mudder1310
01-16-2012, 09:17 PM
The keys are his size and speed. A guy like Floyd from ND is prototypical size/speed, compared to Calvin Johnson. Another big guy with wheels is Alshon Jeffries. I see Blackmon being a great #1 WR, but maybe not the deep threat, a lot like a Hines Ward.

TedSlimmJr
01-16-2012, 09:32 PM
The argument that RG3 had no talent around him was put to rest a long time ago. Anybody that studied Baylor football with any significance and knew what the hell they were looking at immediately saw the immense talent of Kendall Wright.

Wright was leading my list of underrated WR's before the season began. I've said many times that he's the best pro prospect on Baylor's squad. It really wasn't even hard to discern to be quite honest.

I have zero problem with any team that has Kendall Wright as the #1 WR on their board. In reality, it probably is that close between Wright and Blackmon.

If you've seen the tape of Blackmon's struggles with Leonard Johnson, along with Blackmon fumbling the football for no reason heading into the endzone against Texas A&M, etc.... you just don't see anything like that out of Kendall Wright. I can understand teams taking everything available into consideration, and just coming away feeling a little better about Wright. That's not necessarily a knock on Blackmon either, they're both superior talents. Kendall Wright is just that good.

I made my case a long time ago for Wright. I don't see a particular weakness in his game that stands out. In fact, almost every facet of his game is tremendous. I made my case for Kendall Wright in this thread a while back (post #35)...

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?311377-Rg3!!&p=1064147430&highlight=#post1064147430

PJack
01-16-2012, 09:33 PM
I really like Wright a lot and I think he will be an excellent NFL WR. However, Bryant is still the alpha dog in this draft. As long as Bryant runs in the sub 4.6 I don't see that changing. People said TO didn't have great speed yet he managed to find the end zone 150+ times in his career. Bryant reminds me a ton of TO, just without all the drama.

Stefins
01-16-2012, 10:22 PM
Let Blackmon slip to US.....please....

datruth55
01-16-2012, 11:28 PM
I know what you're saying Slimm but there are still some around here who deny the talent on that Baylor team.

perfect1
01-16-2012, 11:55 PM
If he is the best player available then Im all 4 it.

sinPHIN
01-17-2012, 12:58 AM
blackmon
floyd
wright
jeffery
thats my order

datruth55
01-17-2012, 10:27 AM
blackmon
floyd
wright
jeffery
thats my order
Floyd won't be that high because of his off field stuff. Just like Dez Bryant fell into the 20's when he should have been top 10, Floyd will fall.

hooshoops
01-17-2012, 10:31 AM
i think floyd will be on the board longer than people think also because of the 2 duis...i don't think wright will go before blackmon though

j-off-her-doll
01-17-2012, 10:52 AM
He'd be a better compliment to Marshall than Floyd. That's for sure.

RobertHorry
01-17-2012, 11:01 AM
Blackmon is a beast WR but Wright is a ****ing fantastic blocker. Just fantastic.

SMadison29
01-17-2012, 11:05 AM
Honestly, as much as I like Justin Blackmon, Kendall Wright is the more complementary player to Brandon Marshall & the type of WR we need to stretch the defense. He's extremely fast, quick, great hands... If he had more punt/kick return experience he would probably be a no brainer pick for us.

RobertHorry
01-17-2012, 11:06 AM
How anyone has Floyd over Wright is a mystery to me. Flyod is overrated as heck in my opinion.

It goes

1A. Blackmon
1B. Wright

j-off-her-doll
01-17-2012, 11:15 AM
I haven't seen enough Wright to make any bold proclamations, and player analogies are poor excuses for evaluation, but watching him move (speaking both with and without the ball) reminds me of something between S. Holmes and S. Smith (Carolina). Really intrigued.

finsfanjay13
01-17-2012, 11:41 AM
I've been talking about Wright for a good while now. I remember seeing some mocks having him as a 3rd round pick early on and I was wishing that could come true. What a steal that would be (wouldn't happen, I know).

I don't claim to know the ins and outs like Slimm, hoos and CK ... but I do know a player when I see one, and Kendall Wright is a player.

hooshoops
01-17-2012, 11:44 AM
I haven't seen enough Wright to make any bold proclamations, and player analogies are poor excuses for evaluation, but watching him move (speaking both with and without the ball) reminds me of something between S. Holmes and S. Smith (Carolina). Really intrigued.

your boy aldon smith is a flat out stud...that kid wore out the packers left tackles all game long...i wish there was some kind of freak explosion athlete like that for us in the top 10 of this draft...but just our luck i guess i don't see it...

he's a more polished jpp...fantastic hand strength stud...between aldon smith jpp and jj watt the nfl has added some straight studs in the last 2 years...rediculous talents

j-off-her-doll
01-17-2012, 11:51 AM
your boy aldon smith is a flat out stud...that kid wore out the packers left tackles all game long...i wish there was some kind of freak explosion athlete like that for us in the top 10 of this draft...but just our luck i guess i don't see it...

he's a more polished jpp...fantastic hand strength stud...between aldon smith jpp and jj watt the nfl has added some straight studs in the last 2 years...rediculous talents

Nice pick on the Giants game. I've only missed two playoff games so far (Steelers and Packers). Too bad my SB champ is out. Ah well.

But yeah, I love A. Smith. He made a Pro Bowl LT look like a donk on multiple occasions. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't expect him to play this well this soon. This last draft class though was so ****ing loaded. Just a bunch of big-time players. Von Miller, P. Peterson, M. Dareus, C. Newton, A. Green, J. Jones, and J. Watt have all played at a level that would justify a #1 overall selection. I'm probably forgetting a couple. Just a ridiculous class.

hooshoops
01-17-2012, 11:57 AM
i think miami barring a trade up is gonna decide on coples if he's there regardless of if we stick in a 34 or go to a 43...i just believe that ireland is gonna go that route and courtney upshaws lack of height and rediculous type top 10 tools will have us stayin away...coples though for my money isn't a wow explosion athlete...i think we run a lot of 4 man fronts in some packages and coples can also shift inside and rush from the inside given his massive size...

won't surprise me at all if he's the guy on draft day

Tunaphish429
01-17-2012, 12:03 PM
I have not seen much of wright so I cant comment on him..But his size worries me a bit.. but he does have elite timed speed which you cant teach..To me Justin Blackmon is a man tho..That guy looks like what Brandon Marshall was in Denver..Fighting for ever yard..Towering over the competition.

next-year
01-17-2012, 07:22 PM
The keys are his size and speed. A guy like Floyd from ND is prototypical size/speed, compared to Calvin Johnson. Another big guy with wheels is Alshon Jeffries. I see Blackmon being a great #1 WR, but maybe not the deep threat, a lot like a Hines Ward.


what?

Mudder1310
01-17-2012, 07:26 PM
what?
What what? To repeat, other WR have more prototypical size and speed. He should be a great WR in the Hines Ward mold, not a deep threat.

next-year
01-17-2012, 07:56 PM
Well first Floyd is nowhere near as gifted or as fast as Calvin. Since when did Alshon get "wheels" for a receiver getting looked at in the 1st round he is sloww, got Mike Williams #2 written all over him coming out fo school.

The thing that really threw me off is how you could even begin to compare Blackmon and Ward, Ward is a sure handed possession receiver who is a very good blocker , Blackmon is a big play threat, who misses the occasional easy ball. They are just completely different receivers. Honestly T.O. is the perfect comparison, they play almost identical. Hines ward was never a bonafide #1 comparing the two is kind of a slap in the face to Blackmon.

I dont mean to come at you or anything I just completely disagree.

Mudder1310
01-17-2012, 08:46 PM
Well first Floyd is nowhere near as gifted or as fast as Calvin. Since when did Alshon get "wheels" for a receiver getting looked at in the 1st round he is sloww, got Mike Williams #2 written all over him coming out fo school.

The thing that really threw me off is how you could even begin to compare Blackmon and Ward, Ward is a sure handed possession receiver who is a very good blocker , Blackmon is a big play threat, who misses the occasional easy ball. They are just completely different receivers. Honestly T.O. is the perfect comparison, they play almost identical. Hines ward was never a bonafide #1 comparing the two is kind of a slap in the face to Blackmon.

I dont mean to come at you or anything I just completely disagree.
That's fair. I compare Blackmon to Ward in that he runs great routes and is terrific after the catch. He makes the hard catches, goes over the middle, and displays toughness. Neither one is a true deep threat, big plays come from an 8yd catch that he turns into a big play. TO is a similar WR but is a couple inches taller and 10lbs heavier.

The other rec I mention are both several inches taller and 10-15lbs bigger. Floyd has been called the WR in this draft that most resembles Johnson. So what I meant was Blackmon, listed at 6'1" and 215, isn't prototypical size.

I like him, but if he's one WR on your team you need someone on the other side who can fly. Sort of like Michael Irvin who always had an opposite guy to run the flag. That's still pretty dang good.