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SMadison29
01-18-2012, 02:43 PM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7467078/mel-kiper-first-mock-draft-year

Thumper1016
01-18-2012, 02:51 PM
Can anyone tell us NON INSIDERS who miami picks in this mock draft

SMadison29
01-18-2012, 03:21 PM
Can anyone tell us NON INSIDERS who miami picks in this mock draft

Sorry, didn't realize that...


Miami DolphinsRecord: 6-10
* Riley Reiff, OT, IowaThe Dolphins made big improvments to the offensive line last year with their first-round pick, and Reiff would offer them an immediate starter and make the offensive line a big strength. Reiff's tape was exceptional this past season, and he has a lot of experience and a proven ability against top competition. The Dolphins were very close to being a good team in 2011, and I do think they can target a player on offense, although help at outside linebacker also makes sense. The Dolphins could be another team looking for options at quarterback, but even if they go into the season with Matt Moore back as starter, Reiff adds further stability to an offense that could continue to improve.

armyphin
01-18-2012, 03:28 PM
Let the complaining begin...

umpalu
01-18-2012, 03:39 PM
Virtually every mock draft I have read shows Reiff, Jonathan Martin, or David DeCastro. Yay more offensive lineman.

Kthurmus23
01-18-2012, 03:45 PM
Well we might be the first team in NFL history with 4 lineman drafted in the 1st round. So there is that...

I just don't think Ireland is that dumb, he has to know that another lineman will kill whatever respect he has left in Miami. I have been an Ireland supporter but that might be it for me if he does that.

Hayden Fox
01-18-2012, 03:46 PM
Virtually every mock draft I have read shows Reiff or Jonathan Martin of Stanford.

I know...except for Charles Davis having us taking a RB...

Pass rusher is where Mel is right on...Courtney Upshaw.

Hayden Fox
01-18-2012, 03:49 PM
Let's stop the "hey, they got 4 1st rounders on the offensive line."

To be fair, Vernon Carey is not a Trifecta pick. Also, Carey is not coming back...

You can rip that they have not been able to fix the line over 4 years...that is fair.

natetherock
01-18-2012, 04:25 PM
I hope the only way we go O line in the 1st is if we are able to trade back. I'd love to see us grab Upshaw at 8/9 but if we are destined to go Oline I hope we at least trade back and pick up another 2nd.

Kistner10
01-18-2012, 04:37 PM
There's no reason to complain.

Mocks at this point don't take into account free agency, trades, and trading of draft picks. It's still VERY early and we don't even have a coach yet.

Is there a possibility that we take another offensive lineman in the first? Yes, but we could take one while addressing huge needs in free agency. In that scenario, I don't think many people would freak out about taking a RT in the first round.

DKphin
01-18-2012, 04:40 PM
Kiper is a joke

Ricky4Life
01-18-2012, 04:43 PM
Not to sold on having to take a O-Lineman in the first. I would much rather trade down if we did and get some picks and hopefully take someone that has first round talent like Nick Foles or maybe try and sign Matt Flynn if he becomes available. Or take the BPA if we stay at our draft spot. I can see us letting Vernon, Bell, and maybe a few others go that have bigger contacts and are on the tail end of their career.

Finsfan79
01-18-2012, 04:45 PM
Outside linebacker is a far bigger issue. In the modern NFL the key is to get pressure on the QB with consistency with the least number of rushers. If we can get a legit OLB (or DE for the 4-3 if we go there). Then we should go for upshaw imo. If not there then go for a good offensive weapon (No TE worthy but Floyd looks like a stud WR).

SF Dolphin Fan
01-19-2012, 12:02 AM
There's no reason to complain.

Mocks at this point don't take into account free agency, trades, and trading of draft picks. It's still VERY early and we don't even have a coach yet.

Is there a possibility that we take another offensive lineman in the first? Yes, but we could take one while addressing huge needs in free agency. In that scenario, I don't think many people would freak out about taking a RT in the first round.Very true. Miami very well could get Flynn and a pass rusher in free agency. Then a top RT might not be a bad idea. That or a top flight receiver. I have to believe the Dolphins will spend most of their resources this offseason on offense.

Kistner10
01-19-2012, 12:14 AM
Very true. Miami very well could get Flynn and a pass rusher in free agency. Then a top RT might not be a bad idea. That or a top flight receiver. I have to believe the Dolphins will spend most of their resources this offseason on offense.

Exactly

Would people complain about taking a RT or even RG at 9 if Ross decides to open up the checkbook and get a Flynn and maybe one of the Desean/VJax WR's available. I don't know what pass rushers are available in free agency, but there are still a lot of scenarios to be played before the draft.

JCane
01-19-2012, 12:16 AM
Let the complaining begin...

Let the sucking continue.

Valandui
01-19-2012, 12:19 AM
If we take an OL in the top ten not named DeCastro, drunken Valandui will hurt someone.

sinPHIN
01-19-2012, 12:22 AM
what a surprise

utahphinsfan
01-19-2012, 12:59 AM
If Upshaw or Kirkpatrick in the 1st and then Fleener (2nd) & Zeitler (3rd) then I'll be stoked.

How much would it take to bribe Ireland to pull the aforementioned off???

Roman529
01-19-2012, 12:59 AM
Another O-lineman??? If we take another O-lineman, I am going to pick up my 55 inch Samsung LCD tv set and push it over the porch railing and let it crash down into my back yard....my dog can take a big dump on what's left of it, and the NFL draft and my Dolphins. I am sick of crappy drafts and wasted picks.

Fin_Frenzy_84
01-19-2012, 03:11 AM
I will be sick if we draft someone on the line. We can get Carl nicks or Ben grubbs and then switch jerry to right tackle and draft another tackle mid draft.

Fintastic2124
01-19-2012, 04:37 PM
I will be sick if we draft someone on the line. We can get Carl nicks or Ben grubbs and then switch jerry to right tackle and draft another tackle mid draft. This is what I'm thinking. Didn't Jerry play Left Tackle against the Jets? Why couldn't he play right tackle? I hate the fact that Carey is here, but hopefully we have someone else starting RG next year like the one's you've mentioned. I really want one of the top flight receivers or a pass rusher. Kirkpatrick would also make us dangerous. I'm still at a loss though, it's like we're either set at a position, or we're far from it.

Generic Name
01-19-2012, 05:20 PM
Virtually every mock draft I have read shows Reiff, Jonathan Martin, or David DeCastro. Yay more offensive lineman.



Waiting for someone, anyone, to tell me why or how Riley Whiff would ever be a smart, right or value pick at #8 or 9. It's intellectually lazy to plug in a non-impact position this high in the draft because we need a RT.

Kiper usually smartens up right before this draft but the dodos at The Bleacher Report probably won't. Hopefully most of you guys will smarten up and realize that just because the herd advocates a certain position doesn't mean it is the right way.

Get an impact player in the first round, or trade down and get multiple day 2 picks

Roman529
01-19-2012, 05:23 PM
I like this Top 50 player's list more than looking at a lot of Mock Drafts as you never know about trade downs and other things. I think these 50 players are listed close to where they should go in the draft:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d82610fdd/article/griffin-joins-luck-atop-first-2012-nfl-draft-big-board?module=HP11_hot_topics

1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford: The most polished quarterback prospect to enter the league since Peyton Manning (http://www.finheaven.com/players/peytonmanning/profile?id=MAN515097). Luck was the likely No. 1 pick a season ago, and remains the top prospect in this year's draft class.
2. Matt Kalil, OT, USC: The best offensive tackle prospect to hit the league in years. Kalil displays remarkable athleticism and technique, and is a franchise-caliber left tackle poised for stardom.
3. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor: Michael Vick (http://www.finheaven.com/players/michaelvick/profile?id=VIC311467)-like playmaker with extraordinary passing skills. Griffin is more polished in the pocket than Cam Newton at this stage of his development, which bodes well for his potential to make an impact as a rookie.
4. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State: Explosive catch-and-run playmaker with a more refined game than his Oklahoma State predecessor Dez Bryant (http://www.finheaven.com/players/dezbryant/profile?id=BRY336027).
5. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama: Talented runner with a rock-solid game. He can handle the dirty work between the tackles, while also providing a big-play element as a runner/receiver on the perimeter.
6. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU: The premier cover corner in the draft brings a more complete game to the league than Patrick Peterson (http://www.finheaven.com/players/patrickpeterson/profile?id=PET415511).
7. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina: Talented edge player with an impressive set of physical skills, but teams should be concerned about his questionable motor.
8. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa: A skilled technician with the size, strength and athleticism to develop into an all star-caliber edge blocker.
9. Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford: Athletic tackle prospect with all of the tools that scouts covet, but must display more grit and toughness as a pro.
10. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama: Rangy corner with the length and athleticism to match up with the big, physical receivers that are dominating the NFL.
11. David DeCastro, G, Stanford: Tough, scrappy interior blocker with underrated athleticism. DeCastro's ability to excel on the move makes him a scheme-diverse prospect with unlimited potential as a pro.
12. Melvin Ingram, OLB, South Carolina: Athletic defender with speed and quickness. Ingram is capable of wreaking havoc off the edges and is the prototypical 3-4 outside linebacker.
13. Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College: Tackling machine with exceptional instincts and awareness. Scouts question his athleticism, but his production and intangibles will keep him atop draft boards across the league.
14. Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama: Tenacious edge player with outstanding instincts and rush skills. Ideally suited to play as 3-4 OLB, but capable of filling a role as a DE in some 4-3 schemes.
15. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame: Gifted pass catcher with extraordinary ball skills. Specializes in winning jump balls and has a game that will remind some of a young Larry Fitzgerald (http://www.finheaven.com/players/larryfitzgerald/profile?id=FIT437493).
16. Devon Still, DT, Penn State: Big, physical defensive tackle coming off a stellar senior season. Still needs some technique refinement, but his ability to control the middle makes him a coveted prospect.
17. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor: The most explosive receiver in the draft played a major role in RG3's rise to prominence at Baylor with his big-play ability.
18. Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State: Athletic interior defender with his quickness and athleticism to dominate as a three-technique in a 4-3 scheme.
19. David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech: Electrifying runner with speed to burn. Wilson excels at making plays on the perimeter, but is also capable of grinding out tough yards between the tackles.
20. Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois: Viewed as a one-year wonder by some after his dramatic surge in production as a junior, but a close look at his game suggests he has the ability to develop into a double-digit sack artist a pro.
21. Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State: A violent hitter who brings an intimidating presence to the middle, but his undisciplined game and lack of self control could plummet his stock.
22. Cordy Glenn, G/OT, Georgia: Versatile blocker best suited to play on the interior as a pro. Glenn possesses the strength to move defenders off the ball, while also displaying the agility to shadow quick rushers in tight quarters.
23. Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State: Disruptive defender with impressive first-step quickness and agility. Worthy's motor can run a little low at times, but his ability to create disruption makes him an intriguing prospect.
24. Lamar Miller, RB, Miami: Silky smooth runner with great vision and cutback skills. Flashes some Clinton Portis-like ability in his game, which is a good sign for teams looking for a dynamic feature runner.
25. Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina: Freakishly athletic linebacker with the speed and rush skills that defensive coordinators covet. Could experience meteoric rise up the charts after he tests at the NFL Scouting Combine (http://www.nfl.com/combine).
26. Mark Barron, S, Alabama: Savvy ball hawk with high football IQ. Barron's superior instincts and awareness exceed his athleticism, but coaches will covet his ability to handle the mental responsibilities in the backend.
27. Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama: Exceptional defensive playmaker with outstanding ball skills in the mold of Asante Samuel (http://www.finheaven.com/players/asantesamuel/profile?id=SAM616410). Jenkins has some character concerns that must be addressed, but he is a top talent worthy of consideration early.
28. Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis: Massive interior defender with the size, strength and power to dominate the line of scrimmage in the middle.
29. Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin: Scrappy pivot man with outstanding technique. Not a power player, but wins with consistent hand placement and body positioning.
30. Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska: Undersized cover corner with ultra-competitive demeanor and sound game. Dennard's size and speed remain question marks after watching the film, but he could alleviate those concerns in workouts.
31. Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M: Former WR has blossomed into a potent passer from the pocket. Still needs some work, but Tannehill's athleticism and potential has pushed him up the charts.
32. Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina: Big, athletic pass catcher with outstanding ball skills. Jeffery is raw in several aspects of the position and doesn't appear to have elite speed, but his ability to put the ball in the paint makes him an intriguing option as a No. 1 receiver.


33. Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama: Stout inside linebacker with exceptional instincts and awareness. Hightower's size leads to questions about his ability to thrive in coverage, but he can address those concerns with strong workouts in the spring.
34. Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State: Gifted edge blocker with tremendous physical tools. Adams hasn't played to his potential consistently, but his flashes of brilliance will lead teams to nudge him up the board as a left tackle prospect.
35. Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson: Swift H-back type with the speed and athleticism to create mismatches in the passing game. Allen has displayed a mastery of the route tree, but needs to develop into a better blocker as a pro.
36. Andre Branch, OLB, Clemson: Explosive edge rusher with extraordinary first-step quickness. Branch is still viewed as a one-trick pony due to his reliance on his speed, but his potential and production has sent his stock soaring up the charts.
37. Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers: Rangy receiver with deceptive speed and quickness to complement his outstanding ball skills. Sanu is not a burner in the mold of former Rutgers standout Kenny Britt (http://www.finheaven.com/players/kennybritt/profile?id=BRI708216), but he flashes the ability to make plays at every level.
38. Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson: Rugged run defender with the strength and power to stack at the point of attack. Thompson doesn't offer much as a pass rusher, but his ability to collapse the pocket is invaluable.
39. Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State: Versatile edge blocker with experience playing on both sides. Sanders is ideally suited to play right tackle as a pro, but his sound footwork makes him a viable candidate as a backside player.
40. Brandon Washington, G, Miami: Rugged interior blocker with size, strength and athleticism. Not polished in the finer aspects of the position, but potential places him near the top of most draft boards.
41. Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia: Smooth technician with instincts, awareness and ball skills. Slender frame works against Minnifield in matchups with big receivers, but toughness and competitiveness allows him to compete despite size limitations.
42. Nick Foles, QB, Arizona: Talented passer with the physical tools to excel in pro system despite spending the past four years running a version of the spread at Arizona. If Foles can play well on the all-star game circuit and show his ridiculous numbers weren't solely a byproduct of the Wildcats' system, he will continue to climb up the charts prior to draft day.
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43. Michael Brockers, DT, LSU: Could experience a late rise up the charts as scouts spend more time poring over his film. Athletic and disruptive, Brockers appears to be a great fit as a defensive end in a 3-4 base defense or at the five-technique in four-man fronts.
44. Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford: A rare tight end with extensive experience playing in a pro-style system. Fleener is not only a polished route runner and pass catcher, he is also a respectable blocker capable of staying on the field as an every-down playmaker.
45. Billy Winn, DE, Boise State: Underrated edge player with size, strength and rush moves. Winn doesn't play with energy consistently, but flashes dominant ability when motivated to play at a high level.
46. Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska: Slightly undersized linebacker with outstanding speed and quickness. Excels as a run and chase player, but questions persist about his ability to take on blockers in the hole.
47. Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech: Instinctive ball hawk coming off a sub-par year due to injuries. Led the nation in interceptions a season ago, but needs to show speed and movement skills in workouts to cement his status as a top cover man.
48. LaMichael James, RB, Oregon: The most explosive runner in college football is downgraded a bit due to his lack of prototypical size. Viewed as a potential change of pace back/returner, James is a luxury pick in this year's draft.
49. Kelechi Osemele, G, Iowa State: Gritty blocker ideally suited to play on the interior as a pro. Possesses the size and strength to win within tight quarters as a mauler.
50. Chris Polk, RB, Washington: Crafty runner with a workmanlike game that is built for the pros. He excels between the tackles, but is an underrated receiver capable of staying on the field as a three-down weapon.

Aqua and Orange
01-19-2012, 07:09 PM
I would be happy with an O lineman if the team went out and got Matt Flynn.

Sadly, it is too easy to imagine the team sticking with Moore and no backup plan.

Elliott 1
01-19-2012, 07:48 PM
If the Dolphins do switch to a 4-3 base defense, Zach Brown may become a distinct possibility after he nukes the combine.

Dogbone34
01-19-2012, 09:33 PM
it's early, things will change
I would lean towards:

Decastro / Brockers / Coples

2413fanphins
01-21-2012, 02:32 PM
I know...except for Charles Davis having us taking a RB...

Pass rusher is where Mel is right on...Courtney Upshaw.


damn right... this is my guy.