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Roman529
02-02-2012, 05:16 PM
My mock involves us trading down our first pick and we also sign Matt Flynn at QB. :up:

1. Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
1B. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
2. Dwayne Allen or Coby Fleener, TE, Clemson/Stanford (whichever TE is left on the board)
3. Brock Osweiler, QB, ASU (Moore, Flynn and Osweiler become our 3 QB's)
4. Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana (this guy is going to be a great d-back)
5. Jake Bequette, DE, Arkansas (this guy is a great pass rusher)
6. Ryan Miller, OG, Colorado (I watch this guy here in Colorado and he does a nice job on the line).
7. Fozzy Whittaker, RB, Texas (Tore his ACL/MCL, but don't overlook him).

sinPHIN
02-02-2012, 05:37 PM
like everything except the third round. dont pick him up unless we get manning for him to sit behind, other than that dont wont him

SR 7
02-02-2012, 05:43 PM
If we get a QB in FA, instead of Coples or Upshaw I'd rather trade down 5-7 slots, draft Wright, and than Fleener.

ckparrothead
02-02-2012, 06:03 PM
The one thing I have a question on is how in blazes are we going to trade the #8 or #9 pick for TWO 1st round picks? I just don't see that happening.

You have to think of everything within a context. Everything has to fit, and it has to be realistic. Those are the two requirements.

An example of realistic is, can you sign Matt Flynn AND get Paul Soliai back? Chances are, no you cannot. There just isn't enough money under the cap to do that. As things stand it's rumored Miami already may have to get rid of Yeremiah Bell just to have some operating room.

Here's one option:

Plan 1 - Weeden the Garden
SIGN: DT Paul Soliai, CB Will Allen, FS Reggie Nelson, SLB Manny Lawson, LE Cory Redding
LOSE: DE Kendall Langford, SS Yeremiah Bell
DRAFT: RT Riley Reiff, QB Brandon Weeden, LB Bruce Irvin, DE Kyle Wilbur, WR Ryan Broyles, TE Chase Ford, FB Cody Johnson
COMMENT: Essentially Miami becomes Brandon Weeden's team. You're betting on Weeden to win the job from Matt Moore either in 2012 or 2013. They'll be throwing the ball to Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess, Clyde Gates, Anthony Fasano, Charles Clay and Chase Ford. Ryan Broyles' rookie year would be a tossaway year, recovering from knee surgery and learning Joe Philbin's offense. What I like about that is, chances are one of the four receivers up top be it Marshall, Bess, Hartline or Gates, is just not going to 'get it' in Philbin's offense. Broyles is a nice backup plan to step in for whichever guy isn't getting it. Weeden will be protected by Top 10 bookends in Jake Long and Riley Reiff with a Top 15 pick at Center, and probably Richie Incognito and Nate Garner at Guard. The addition of Cody Johnson gives you a true fullback that is a battering ram in short yardage situations (only lost a total of 19 yards in 340 carries at Texas), which was a big weakness of the Bush/Thomas unit in 2011. Chase Ford rounds out a nice Tight Ends unit where you have a great blocker in Anthony Fasano, a joker in Charles Clay, and a seam controller in Chase Ford. On defense, you're relying on a heavy defensive line rotation with big bodies and lots of muscle to stop the run, and then allow Cam Wake and Bruce Irvin/Kyle Wilbur/Manny Lawson to come in on pass downs, pin their ears back and really just go after the passer. You're relying on Karlos Dansby to continue the work he did replacing Crowder in the middle, with Burnett playing Will and Lawson as a run stopping Sam, Misi as a backup at both Sam and Will, and a guy that can rotate at D-End when needed. The back end sees Reshad Jones moving into Yeremiah Bell's position which would make Slimm and some others happy, while Reggie Nelson plays Free Safety, and Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Will Allen and Jimmy Wilson continue at corner. To me, perimeter defense wasn't a problem in 2011. It was the middle, the safety spots, and communication between linebackers.

hooshoops
02-02-2012, 06:48 PM
i'll throw out a name i think we're looking at pretty hard should we lose solia and langford in free agency...kendall reyes...i see a lot of starks like qualities in him...early 3rd round sounds right...

i like the idea of adding corey redding...although for some reason he's striking me as getting long in the tooth...

Roman529
02-02-2012, 06:58 PM
The one thing I have a question on is how in blazes are we going to trade the #8 or #9 pick for TWO 1st round picks? I just don't see that happening.


Ooops....actually I didn't suggest we get two first rounders....I meant one or the other.....Martin as my first choice, and Wright as my second (1B).

PSU Cane
02-02-2012, 07:56 PM
The one thing I have a question on is how in blazes are we going to trade the #8 or #9 pick for TWO 1st round picks? I just don't see that happening.

You have to think of everything within a context. Everything has to fit, and it has to be realistic. Those are the two requirements.

An example of realistic is, can you sign Matt Flynn AND get Paul Soliai back? Chances are, no you cannot. There just isn't enough money under the cap to do that. As things stand it's rumored Miami already may have to get rid of Yeremiah Bell just to have some operating room.

Here's one option:

Plan 1 - Weeden the Garden
SIGN: DT Paul Soliai, CB Will Allen, FS Reggie Nelson, SLB Manny Lawson, LE Cory Redding
LOSE: DE Kendall Langford, SS Yeremiah Bell
DRAFT: RT Riley Reiff, QB Brandon Weeden, LB Bruce Irvin, DE Kyle Wilbur, WR Ryan Broyles, TE Chase Ford, FB Cody Johnson
COMMENT: Essentially Miami becomes Brandon Weeden's team. You're betting on Weeden to win the job from Matt Moore either in 2012 or 2013. They'll be throwing the ball to Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, Davone Bess, Clyde Gates, Anthony Fasano, Charles Clay and Chase Ford. Ryan Broyles' rookie year would be a tossaway year, recovering from knee surgery and learning Joe Philbin's offense. What I like about that is, chances are one of the four receivers up top be it Marshall, Bess, Hartline or Gates, is just not going to 'get it' in Philbin's offense. Broyles is a nice backup plan to step in for whichever guy isn't getting it. Weeden will be protected by Top 10 bookends in Jake Long and Riley Reiff with a Top 15 pick at Center, and probably Richie Incognito and Nate Garner at Guard. The addition of Cody Johnson gives you a true fullback that is a battering ram in short yardage situations (only lost a total of 19 yards in 340 carries at Texas), which was a big weakness of the Bush/Thomas unit in 2011. Chase Ford rounds out a nice Tight Ends unit where you have a great blocker in Anthony Fasano, a joker in Charles Clay, and a seam controller in Chase Ford. On defense, you're relying on a heavy defensive line rotation with big bodies and lots of muscle to stop the run, and then allow Cam Wake and Bruce Irvin/Kyle Wilbur/Manny Lawson to come in on pass downs, pin their ears back and really just go after the passer. You're relying on Karlos Dansby to continue the work he did replacing Crowder in the middle, with Burnett playing Will and Lawson as a run stopping Sam, Misi as a backup at both Sam and Will, and a guy that can rotate at D-End when needed. The back end sees Reshad Jones moving into Yeremiah Bell's position which would make Slimm and some others happy, while Reggie Nelson plays Free Safety, and Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Will Allen and Jimmy Wilson continue at corner. To me, perimeter defense wasn't a problem in 2011. It was the middle, the safety spots, and communication between linebackers.

I wouldn't hate that draft, but i'd change it up a bit. I liked Irvin at WVU, but i just think he is way too small to be anything more than a 3rd down specialist who teams will run right at and destroy if he plays on 1st or 2nd. Same with Wilbur at this point. With all the holes on this team, i don't think we can go for 2 specialists. If we go pass rushers in 3rd and 4th round, i'm going with Cam Johnson and Shea McClellin. I would love Broyles at that spot but you have to think someone takes a flyer on him much earlier, don't you think? And i do everything to stay away from Chase Ford. Being a huge Hurricane fan i watched him do nothing for 2 straight years and get blown up trying to run block.

ahmilli
02-02-2012, 08:24 PM
Wright has bust written all over him.

Markcalius
02-02-2012, 08:28 PM
The addition of Cody Johnson gives you a true fullback that is a battering ram in short yardage situations (only lost a total of 19 yards in 340 carries at Texas), which was a big weakness of the Bush/Thomas unit in 2011.

Love the Cody Johnson pick. Living in Austin, I thought about him every time Miami had a drive that stalled on the goal line. He's a behemoth, and he has been automatic in short yardage for the Longhorns.

taaff
02-02-2012, 08:30 PM
I am fairly certain it is illegal to draft someone named Fozzy.

retarmyfinfan
02-03-2012, 12:31 AM
how do we get 2 first rounders?

Roman529
02-03-2012, 01:05 AM
how do we get 2 first rounders?

I'll try to clarify it....I didn't mean we would get two first rounders.....Jonathan Martin would be my first choice if we trade down a couple spots, and Kendall Wright was my second choice (1B.). I also think Reilly Reiff would be nice if we go with an o-lineman. If we trade down I think we could get Alllen or Fleener. So basically we would be trading down from around the 8th spot, and getting say the 15th pick and maybe a pick in the late 20's, or early 30's? We also have the 42nd overall pick.

Oh and the guy nicknamed "Fozzy" Whittaker's real first name is Foswhitt. :chuckle: I also don't think Kendall Wright will be a bust. He has around 4.42 speed, and can also run back kicks. He's 5'10 but really strong and can break tackles. I just was throwing out a couple names that should be there at each pick, and going after our biggest needs.

SMadison29
02-03-2012, 03:40 PM
I liked Irvin at WVU, but i just think he is way too small to be anything more than a 3rd down specialist who teams will run right at and destroy if he plays on 1st or 2nd.

It's funny, West Virginia felt the same way, that's why he only played on passing downs the majority of the season. I'd pass on him, especially if we're going back to the 4-3.

Lord Of Miami
02-04-2012, 01:25 AM
I wouldn't hate that draft, but i'd change it up a bit. I liked Irvin at WVU, but i just think he is way too small to be anything more than a 3rd down specialist who teams will run right at and destroy if he plays on 1st or 2nd. Same with Wilbur at this point. With all the holes on this team, i don't think we can go for 2 specialists. If we go pass rushers in 3rd and 4th round, i'm going with Cam Johnson and Shea McClellin. I would love Broyles at that spot but you have to think someone takes a flyer on him much earlier, don't you think? And i do everything to stay away from Chase Ford. Being a huge Hurricane fan i watched him do nothing for 2 straight years and get blown up trying to run block.


If you get a guy that can rush the passer in the 3rd round it really doesn't matter if it takes him two years to learn how to play the run and just get stronger....

When Jimmy drafted JT third round, he told JT just go get the QB we'll worry about every thing else later.

utahphinsfan
02-05-2012, 02:56 PM
I am fairly certain it is illegal to draft someone named Fozzy.

It s/b illegal to listen to Fozzy but I like the pick.

Exuro
02-07-2012, 06:00 PM
Spending a 3rd rounder on a pass rusher is smart team building. If they went with Irvin, he platoons with Misi.

finfan54
02-11-2012, 05:14 PM
My mock involves us trading down our first pick and we also sign Matt Flynn at QB. :up:

1. Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
1B. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
2. Dwayne Allen or Coby Fleener, TE, Clemson/Stanford (whichever TE is left on the board)
3. Brock Osweiler, QB, ASU (Moore, Flynn and Osweiler become our 3 QB's)
4. Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana (this guy is going to be a great d-back)
5. Jake Bequette, DE, Arkansas (this guy is a great pass rusher)
6. Ryan Miller, OG, Colorado (I watch this guy here in Colorado and he does a nice job on the line).
7. Fozzy Whittaker, RB, Texas (Tore his ACL/MCL, but don't overlook him).

under your scenario, I would draft Decastro if we were still in a spot to do so and then take the Tackle from Ohio State. Problem done, problem solved for years and years to come. We dont really need a WR. We just need a coaching staff to get more out of the ones we have. Gates is a guy to look out for this year with new coaching staff.
I dont have a problem with the TE pick at all but Levarius Green IMO would be nicer to get and trade down and get another pick. Still figuring out the manlove for Osweiller. He may be had for fourth rounder. If not him, then someone falls there and maybe Foles.

I like the montana kid pick but wonder if he actually could go in the fifth and get someone like that safety from Louisiana-Laffayette.