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BAMAPHIN 22
02-22-2012, 04:06 PM
Defensive Tackle: With that in mind, it seems as though the interior of the defensive line is the best place to start. Paul Soliai is a free agent and it seems very unlikely that a cap-strapped Jeff Ireland is going to be able to afford the big NT and bring in a FA passer. Soliai has been very strong for the past two seasons and flashed moments of total dominance; ask Nick Mangold. He made the Pro Bowl in 2012, although his 2011 season was much better. Unfortunately, despite his agent saying that a deal could be done in 15 minutes, itís almost certainly not going to get done and the big man will hit the open market. Itís a shame for three reasons; the first is that heís very good. Secondly, when you work hard and nurture and goad and trust a player and see him develop only to have him walk, itís disappointing. And finally, heís what makes this entire defense tick in the run game. That will be hard to replace.http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2012/02/hyde5_draft_winds_analyzes_the_1.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DaveHyde-blog+%28Dave+Hyde+%7C+Sun+Sentinel+blogs%29

TedSlimmJr
02-22-2012, 05:07 PM
Completely agree with Boomer here about Kirkpatrick. He's not what you're looking for if you're in the market for a slot CB who's pure in man coverage. However, he's a beautiful fit for a Cover-2 style defense. He just doesn't quite have the fluidity in his hips to excel in man coverage. However, he's the best tackling CB I've seen since Charles Woodson, which is where he's an entirely different player than Sean Smith. He's a more physical tackler than any safety in this draft other than Mark Barron. Kirkpatrick delivers so much pop when he hits that he creates fumbles, even when he's taking on 260 pound TE's one-on-one in the open field. Probably not a fit for Miami, but he's going to play in the NFL a long time and make some team happy they got him. He's been taught how to pattern-read by Saban, and does it very well. Saban's defense is more complex than most anything he'll be thrown into in the NFL, which can also be detrimental in the pros.... Kareem Jackson, Javier Arenas, and Rashad Johnson will all vouch.



As for the linebackers, the kid who I think could end up as good a pro as any of them is Mychal Kendricks. His instincts are on a level that is superior to most LB's in college outside of Kuechly. Kendricks looks like an ideal "Ted" linebacker inside a 3-4 or any hybrid scheme.... he enjoys the contact and takes on a lot of pulling guards in the hole, can shed and make the tackle. Him and Hightower are the two best blitzing ILB's I've seen, and both are subject to come off the field on 3rd downs in the NFL. The other thing about Kendricks that stands out is that he doesn't get many of his tackles broken by ball carriers. Once he makes contact the ball carrier is going to the ground. Underrated 'backer who'll make a solid pro.

hooshoops
02-22-2012, 05:53 PM
it's a great read but just like every year for me there are way too many guys being listed who's values i think are inflated on that breakdown...i just think you guys tend to overvalue guys draft values

DKphin
02-22-2012, 05:55 PM
This has to be the best line in the whole article.:chuckle:

So what of the possibilities for the top 10? Well my favourite defensive player in the Draft is Courtney Upshaw of Alabama, a huge physical freak at 6’2, 269. I think a hybrid defense will suit him very well because he looks to have Lamarr Woodley type of talent in a 3-4, but can also play either as a linebacker in a 4-3 or kick up to end. Some people would call him a tweener, I would call him destructively versatile.

ckparrothead
02-22-2012, 06:21 PM
it's a great read but just like every year for me there are way too many guys being listed who's values i think are inflated on that breakdown...i just think you guys tend to overvalue guys draft values

The intention is to take a kitchen sink approach to talking about any and all players that could come into frame at Miami's 1st pick, whether they stay at #8/#9 or whether they trade down.

We can focus on 5 guys to narrow it down later. Now is not appropriate for that.

hooshoops
02-22-2012, 09:41 PM
The intention is to take a kitchen sink approach to talking about any and all players that could come into frame at Miami's 1st pick, whether they stay at #8/#9 or whether they trade down.

We can focus on 5 guys to narrow it down later. Now is not appropriate for that.

i think we can pretty much narrow it down to 5 guys right now but yeah i got to remember that you guys are trying to appeal to a wide audience and laying out all the possibilities for the average fan and not just the guys who are football junkies etc...

i think its fair to say you guys have all the defensive top pick possibilities covered at this point...

datruth55
02-22-2012, 10:34 PM
Completely agree with Boomer here about Kirkpatrick. He's not what you're looking for if you're in the market for a slot CB who's pure in man coverage. However, he's a beautiful fit for a Cover-2 style defense. He just doesn't quite have the fluidity in his hips to excel in man coverage. However, he's the best tackling CB I've seen since Charles Woodson, which is where he's an entirely different player than Sean Smith. He's a more physical tackler than any safety in this draft other than Mark Barron. Kirkpatrick delivers so much pop when he hits that he creates fumbles, even when he's taking on 260 pound TE's one-on-one in the open field. Probably not a fit for Miami, but he's going to play in the NFL a long time and make some team happy they got him. He's been taught how to pattern-read by Saban, and does it very well. Saban's defense is more complex than most anything he'll be thrown into in the NFL, which can also be detrimental in the pros.... Kareem Jackson, Javier Arenas, and Rashad Johnson will all vouch.



As for the linebackers, the kid who I think could end up as good a pro as any of them is Mychal Kendricks. His instincts are on a level that is superior to most LB's in college outside of Kuechly. Kendricks looks like an ideal "Ted" linebacker inside a 3-4 or any hybrid scheme.... he enjoys the contact and takes on a lot of pulling guards in the hole, can shed and make the tackle. Him and Hightower are the two best blitzing ILB's I've seen, and both are subject to come off the field on 3rd downs in the NFL. The other thing about Kendricks that stands out is that he doesn't get many of his tackles broken by ball carriers. Once he makes contact the ball carrier is going to the ground. Underrated 'backer who'll make a solid pro.
Slimm what's the verdict on Josh Chapman? Can this kid play the NT in a 3-4?

TedSlimmJr
02-22-2012, 11:14 PM
Slimm what's the verdict on Josh Chapman? Can this kid play the NT in a 3-4?


I don't think there's any question that he can. He did it this year with a torn ACL and meniscus, and never gave an inch. I'm serious, I've never seen him be moved one inch off the football. He'll come off the field on 3rd downs, but as a 2-down/2-gapper, he was essentially the best in the business.

The kid who's a sleeper is his backup, Nick Gentry. He usually played on 3rd downs or in sub packages. He's only 6'1", 285 pounds, but he creates more pressure than any defender on Bama's defense.

It's a fact. It's not Upshaw. Nick Gentry created more pressure on opposing offenses than any other defender. He's not the immovable rock that Chapman is but he's a better pass rusher. Very quick off the snap and plays with insane leverage.

I think Gentry can get in a camp somewhere as a UDFA and stick on a roster, maybe make a rotational DT in the NFL.

datruth55
02-22-2012, 11:59 PM
I don't think there's any question that he can. He did it this year with a torn ACL and meniscus, and never gave an inch. I'm serious, I've never seen him be moved one inch off the football. He'll come off the field on 3rd downs, but as a 2-down/2-gapper, he was essentially the best in the business.

The kid who's a sleeper is his backup, Nick Gentry. He usually played on 3rd downs or in sub packages. He's only 6'1", 285 pounds, but he creates more pressure than any defender on Bama's defense.

It's a fact. It's not Upshaw. Nick Gentry created more pressure on opposing offenses than any other defender. He's not the immovable rock that Chapman is but he's a better pass rusher. Very quick off the snap and plays with insane leverage.

I think Gentry can get in a camp somewhere as a UDFA and stick on a roster, maybe make a rotational DT in the NFL.
That's what I thought about Chapman. I was thinking the Fins could look at him in the 4th round if he's still on the board. He's kind of an under the radar kid no one talks about.

ckparrothead
02-23-2012, 01:35 AM
i think we can pretty much narrow it down to 5 guys right now but yeah i got to remember that you guys are trying to appeal to a wide audience and laying out all the possibilities for the average fan and not just the guys who are football junkies etc...

i think its fair to say you guys have all the defensive top pick possibilities covered at this point...

Exactly right. We give you a feel for how we think about all these guys but we do have to address them all. Then we can narrow it down.

ckparrothead
02-23-2012, 01:42 AM
Luke Kuechly just HAS to be in the discussion for #8 or #9. As Slimm likes to point out, the Dolphins once made a mistake taking a kick returner over the best defensive player in the Draft, Patrick Willis. There are guys the Dolphins could take at #8 or #9 over Luke Kuechly that would not upset me, but then there are guys that they could take that absolutely would upset me.

Just watch Kuechly against the Hurricanes. He's ridiculous. Underrated closing speed and athleticism. No linebacker has a better feel for passing lanes than he does. He seems to know where the running back should be going with the ball better than the running back does. And if you want to see a FOOTBALL PLAYER just watch his interception return for a touchdown. There's something you can't coach there. If he were actually slow enough to scare me, there's no way he gets this TD. But he runs full speed with the ball in one hand and using the other hand to stiff arm Travis Benjamin for like 40 yards. That's just just being an excellent football player.

hooshoops
02-23-2012, 10:38 AM
i think chapmans value if he checks out medically falls somewhere around the 100 pick range...

SF Dolphin Fan
02-23-2012, 12:57 PM
Terrific job CK and Boomer. Really love your analysis and look forward to it every year. Have to say I completely agree on Courtney Upshaw. I think he would be such a great fit for this team and maybe then Miami could draft a RT (Adcock) in round 2. I think Upshaw also fits what Ireland has looked for in early round picks, high motor, character, overachiever.

SF Dolphin Fan
02-23-2012, 12:59 PM
Luke Kuechly just HAS to be in the discussion for #8 or #9. As Slimm likes to point out, the Dolphins once made a mistake taking a kick returner over the best defensive player in the Draft, Patrick Willis. There are guys the Dolphins could take at #8 or #9 over Luke Kuechly that would not upset me, but then there are guys that they could take that absolutely would upset me.

Just watch Kuechly against the Hurricanes. He's ridiculous. Underrated closing speed and athleticism. No linebacker has a better feel for passing lanes than he does. He seems to know where the running back should be going with the ball better than the running back does. And if you want to see a FOOTBALL PLAYER just watch his interception return for a touchdown. There's something you can't coach there. If he were actually slow enough to scare me, there's no way he gets this TD. But he runs full speed with the ball in one hand and using the other hand to stiff arm Travis Benjamin for like 40 yards. That's just just being an excellent football player.Got to love Kuechly. Let me ask you this CK, who do you think are the best pass rushers who could be available at the end of round 1 (trade up possibilities) or in early round 2?

ckparrothead
02-23-2012, 01:42 PM
Got to love Kuechly. Let me ask you this CK, who do you think are the best pass rushers who could be available at the end of round 1 (trade up possibilities) or in early round 2?

I don't know that I would bother trading up from our 2nd round pick unless we get into a situation where we need Brandon Weeden and can't take the chance that he's there for us at #40. We need our draft picks, have a lot of holes on roster and not a lot of cap money to fill them.

I think Whitney Mercilus could drop and be available at the tail end of the 1st round. I just have a feeling that there will be too much of an Aaron Maybin vibe with him. He really seems to make plays just one way, primarily...and being a one season wonder PLUS being one-dimensional PLUS that one-dimension seeming to only work out for you one way? I mean, that's a red flag to me.

If we're actually considering taking a pass rusher at #40 overall I would consider Malik Jackson if you don't think he'll be there in the 3rd round. I'd prefer to take him with the 3rd round pick but he's a really good player and it's hard to tell what his stock is with the other teams. I like a Cam Johnson a lot. I've just been doing some work on Olivier Vernon and he's giving me some Cam Wake chills at times. He could be a lot better at the next level than he is at the college level.

I haven't really done much work on Chandler Jones yet but that's a guy that supposedly could be available at #40.

I think when you get down to the 3rd rounder that's where guys like Cam Johnson, Malik Jackson, Olivier Vernon and maybe Bruce Irvin start to become a little more attractive though. In all likelihood I'd only use the 2nd rounder on a guy like Johnson or Jackson because they're big in addition to having good burst, and I wouldn't be too interested in the smaller, faster, more one-dimensional guys like Vernon and Irvin until the 3rd round. Get into the 4th round and I like Kyle Wilbur, maybe Jake Bequette.

Awsi Dooger
02-24-2012, 05:03 AM
Luke Kuechly just HAS to be in the discussion for #8 or #9. As Slimm likes to point out, the Dolphins once made a mistake taking a kick returner over the best defensive player in the Draft, Patrick Willis. There are guys the Dolphins could take at #8 or #9 over Luke Kuechly that would not upset me, but then there are guys that they could take that absolutely would upset me.

Just watch Kuechly against the Hurricanes. He's ridiculous. Underrated closing speed and athleticism. No linebacker has a better feel for passing lanes than he does. He seems to know where the running back should be going with the ball better than the running back does. And if you want to see a FOOTBALL PLAYER just watch his interception return for a touchdown. There's something you can't coach there. If he were actually slow enough to scare me, there's no way he gets this TD. But he runs full speed with the ball in one hand and using the other hand to stiff arm Travis Benjamin for like 40 yards. That's just just being an excellent football player.

You beat me to it. At some point before the draft I intended to emphasize Kuechly's performance against the Canes. I was in awe, easily the best defender Miami has faced in years and years. As a Canes fan for more than 40 years only a handful of opponents' efforts truly stand out, and that was one of them.

Jedd Fisch changed Miami's passing schemes dramatically this season. Lots of quick cheap short stuff, instead of downfield risk as preferred by predecessor Mark Whipple. Fisch generally got away with it until the finale against Boston College. Even FSU, which was 3rd in the nation in yards per play defense at 4.16, allowed Miami to abuse the linebackers for short to intermediate gains. Keuchly was like a one-man Foosball stick against the Canes. I swear, that was what it looked like from the stands. I sit low upper deck for a great perspective of the field. Keuchly was prepared for Miami's tendencies and read Jacory's eyes to the point it seemed like there were 4 of 5 of him out there, moving in tandem to cut off every lane. Boston College eliminated the short passes to such extreme Jacory eventually gave up and forced the ball deep, similar to 2009 and 2010, leading to several interceptions.

Keuchly convinced me long me before his interception return. I can picture the play, Keuchly cutting in front then hustling down the right sideline, not slowing down at all while turning his head right to fend off Benjamin. There was no question who would get the best of that combat.

Keuchly would be an instant fan favorite, a Zach Thomas-type only bigger, more athletic and simply better.

As always, I try to project prospects to how well they'd fit on the early '70s teams, in terms of talent, smarts, tenacity and dedication. Keuchly is exactly what that era was all about.

Awsi Dooger
02-24-2012, 05:34 AM
I've just been doing some work on Olivier Vernon and he's giving me some Cam Wake chills at times. He could be a lot better at the next level than he is at the college level.

Similar to my previous post. You beat me to it again. I've been busy betting college basketball and didn't think there was any hurry to capsule some of these Canes players, or players I watched against the Canes.

Olivier Vernon will be a far superior pro to collegian. He was the one guy I hated to see leave early. Classic case of being undervalued due to situational factors, including lack of playing time this season after the suspension. Not until the final handful of games did Vernon start to find himself. And even at that point, he was handicapped by poor defensive tackles and rarely allowed to unleash his best trait, edge rushing in pure passing situations.

Vernon has excellent agility and the athletic arrogance I always crave. Great frame, the look of an athlete. He can make more than one move while attacking the quarterback, inside or out on the tackle then a quick burst adjustment when confronted by the back. He does have a tendency to dive low to the quarterback's legs, which is now flag bearing in the NFL.

Many Canes fans are down on Vernon, lumping him in with the other guys who left early. Some posters on Miami boards doubt he'll be drafted. I think they are out of their minds. Vernon was the whispered budding superstar heading into 2010. I attended the spring game and Warren Sapp sought him out, standing next to Vernon on the sideline and talking to him at length. Canes fans expected a huge year from Vernon and it didn't happen. No standout performances in marquee games. I didn't overreact because our interior run defense was horrendous, and the defense small and vulnerable in general. Put Vernon on one of the glory year Canes defenses and he'd fit right in and make plays. Likewise, I posted on a Miami board in December that Vernon was the one Canes defender who would look the part if placed in the title game defense of either Alabama or LSU.

Vernon needs to unleash a bit more, to be 10-15% more physical and relentless on the field. Sometimes he'll head upfield instead of ducking his shoulder and taking on the blocker. But that's the tendency among recent Canes prospects. Invariably they remove the concerns once they are in the NFL.

Fin Thirteen
02-24-2012, 05:59 AM
Mark Barron at 8 or 9 is too high, esp post-op (and it looks like there are a busload of DB FAs out this year).

But whereas RBs are falling out of favor as upper 1st round picks, could safeties now be on the rise? Is it too much to hope his hernia issues cause him to fall to #40? Barron to me looks a nailed-on NFL starter - his instincts and closing speed are ridiculous, he has the size, his hands are good, he hits like a train, his pass coverage is better than he gets credit for. He's pretty much exactly what you want in a safety.

I thought Coyle was a zone man, so I figured Smith might be outta here, but if - as people have posted here - it's more a press defence, then CB isn't necessarily a big need. FS/SS is full of mediocre talent on our roster, a guy like Barron could make a major difference. Could he fall to the top of the second, having just had two hernia ops?

TedSlimmJr
02-24-2012, 04:34 PM
Olivier Vernon was one of my most underrated underclassman in my July thread back before the season. If he played every game like he did as a sophomore in 2009 against Georgia Tech and Wisconsin, he'd be a top 50 pick.

He got the best of Zebrie Sanders several times this year in their matchup, including flat out beating Sanders to the inside for a sack and forced fumble on E.J. Manuel. When he plays with the correct leverage and fires off the ball low without standing straight up, he's in position to use technique instead of relying on athletic ability. Ton of upside with this kid if he takes to coaching and developes the consistency.

hooshoops
02-24-2012, 04:37 PM
yeah i'm with you guys on vernon i think that kids a nice talent...

ckparrothead
02-24-2012, 05:12 PM
You beat me to it. At some point before the draft I intended to emphasize Kuechly's performance against the Canes. I was in awe, easily the best defender Miami has faced in years and years. As a Canes fan for more than 40 years only a handful of opponents' efforts truly stand out, and that was one of them.

Jedd Fisch changed Miami's passing schemes dramatically this season. Lots of quick cheap short stuff, instead of downfield risk as preferred by predecessor Mark Whipple. Fisch generally got away with it until the finale against Boston College. Even FSU, which was 3rd in the nation in yards per play defense at 4.16, allowed Miami to abuse the linebackers for short to intermediate gains. Keuchly was like a one-man Foosball stick against the Canes. I swear, that was what it looked like from the stands. I sit low upper deck for a great perspective of the field. Keuchly was prepared for Miami's tendencies and read Jacory's eyes to the point it seemed like there were 4 of 5 of him out there, moving in tandem to cut off every lane. Boston College eliminated the short passes to such extreme Jacory eventually gave up and forced the ball deep, similar to 2009 and 2010, leading to several interceptions.

Keuchly convinced me long me before his interception return. I can picture the play, Keuchly cutting in front then hustling down the right sideline, not slowing down at all while turning his head right to fend off Benjamin. There was no question who would get the best of that combat.

Keuchly would be an instant fan favorite, a Zach Thomas-type only bigger, more athletic and simply better.

As always, I try to project prospects to how well they'd fit on the early '70s teams, in terms of talent, smarts, tenacity and dedication. Keuchly is exactly what that era was all about.

I don't think any linebacker translates film work onto the field better than Kuechly. He just has the best feel for the spacing and angles, based on his film study. It's one thing to see a camera view of an offense's tendencies as far as where they throw the ball, when, etc...it's another to be on the field and to know what that angle is that the middle option will be looking to come open and have the ball thrown.

Though he's a tackle accumulator, I think he's a little better against pass than run right now, needs a little coaching on some brute force tactics inside the briar patch. But I think he'll get there.

You're right, instant fan favorite. Jersey seller. Icon.

ckparrothead
02-24-2012, 05:17 PM
Similar to my previous post. You beat me to it again. I've been busy betting college basketball and didn't think there was any hurry to capsule some of these Canes players, or players I watched against the Canes.

Olivier Vernon will be a far superior pro to collegian. He was the one guy I hated to see leave early. Classic case of being undervalued due to situational factors, including lack of playing time this season after the suspension. Not until the final handful of games did Vernon start to find himself. And even at that point, he was handicapped by poor defensive tackles and rarely allowed to unleash his best trait, edge rushing in pure passing situations.

Vernon has excellent agility and the athletic arrogance I always crave. Great frame, the look of an athlete. He can make more than one move while attacking the quarterback, inside or out on the tackle then a quick burst adjustment when confronted by the back. He does have a tendency to dive low to the quarterback's legs, which is now flag bearing in the NFL.

Many Canes fans are down on Vernon, lumping him in with the other guys who left early. Some posters on Miami boards doubt he'll be drafted. I think they are out of their minds. Vernon was the whispered budding superstar heading into 2010. I attended the spring game and Warren Sapp sought him out, standing next to Vernon on the sideline and talking to him at length. Canes fans expected a huge year from Vernon and it didn't happen. No standout performances in marquee games. I didn't overreact because our interior run defense was horrendous, and the defense small and vulnerable in general. Put Vernon on one of the glory year Canes defenses and he'd fit right in and make plays. Likewise, I posted on a Miami board in December that Vernon was the one Canes defender who would look the part if placed in the title game defense of either Alabama or LSU.

Vernon needs to unleash a bit more, to be 10-15% more physical and relentless on the field. Sometimes he'll head upfield instead of ducking his shoulder and taking on the blocker. But that's the tendency among recent Canes prospects. Invariably they remove the concerns once they are in the NFL.

Exactly what I noticed as well. It's part of why I defend Quinton Coples a lot. There are things that handcuffed both guys at the collegiate level that won't be the same when they get to the pros and there are more opportunities for them to eat.

I mean if you want a guy that can get that burst off the ball, get vertical up the field and then BEND the edge, that's Vernon. Similar to Chris Carter a year ago, but a little more brutal with his hands in run defense, a little more well rounded despite poor size which could see him playing more linebacker. Good pickup for the Steelers, who always seem to be able to use a guy like him.

SF Dolphin Fan
02-24-2012, 05:19 PM
I don't know that I would bother trading up from our 2nd round pick unless we get into a situation where we need Brandon Weeden and can't take the chance that he's there for us at #40. We need our draft picks, have a lot of holes on roster and not a lot of cap money to fill them.

I think Whitney Mercilus could drop and be available at the tail end of the 1st round. I just have a feeling that there will be too much of an Aaron Maybin vibe with him. He really seems to make plays just one way, primarily...and being a one season wonder PLUS being one-dimensional PLUS that one-dimension seeming to only work out for you one way? I mean, that's a red flag to me.

If we're actually considering taking a pass rusher at #40 overall I would consider Malik Jackson if you don't think he'll be there in the 3rd round. I'd prefer to take him with the 3rd round pick but he's a really good player and it's hard to tell what his stock is with the other teams. I like a Cam Johnson a lot. I've just been doing some work on Olivier Vernon and he's giving me some Cam Wake chills at times. He could be a lot better at the next level than he is at the college level.

I haven't really done much work on Chandler Jones yet but that's a guy that supposedly could be available at #40.

I think when you get down to the 3rd rounder that's where guys like Cam Johnson, Malik Jackson, Olivier Vernon and maybe Bruce Irvin start to become a little more attractive though. In all likelihood I'd only use the 2nd rounder on a guy like Johnson or Jackson because they're big in addition to having good burst, and I wouldn't be too interested in the smaller, faster, more one-dimensional guys like Vernon and Irvin until the 3rd round. Get into the 4th round and I like Kyle Wilbur, maybe Jake Bequette.Sounds like there's enough talent to get a pass rusher in round 2 if Miami does go with Luke Kuechly in the first. That might leave them without a RT, though, unless they can fill that in free agency.

ckparrothead
02-24-2012, 05:31 PM
Yeah I think that if you can get a Malik Jackson or Cam Johnson you're doing pretty well, especially since the Dolphins figure to be switching to more of a 4-3 with Cam Wake as your multiple guy, Jack, Leo, Elephant, whatever you call it. The guy opposite him has to be a bigger player, like a Malik Jackson.

If the Dolphins were staying in a 3-4 and really committing to it, then Olivier Vernon definitely comes more into it. But in Miami's projected 4-3, Vernon would be the guy you'd want to have if you're letting Cam Wake walk when it comes time for him to sign a new deal.

SR 7
02-25-2012, 07:51 AM
Ireland did announce that they are looking for LBs that can cover now and he didn't say it specifically out loud but rather quietly threw that comment out there. Hopefully it is regarding Kuch because I'd take him over anyone at 8 right now.

For me the top players would be Richardson, DeCastro, Kuch, and Ingram/Upshaw. I'm against Linemen so DeCastro gets the boot but man he is going to be one of the best linemen to play if he continues at this rate.

Boomer
02-28-2012, 06:29 AM
Man Alive.....AWSI DOOGER!!!!!!!!!

Hey mate!!

Hoo - Chris is right - I can't JUST nail it down to the 8th pick because then it's 5 players and if we trade down then those people who follow the draft only on Draft day are suddenly scrabbling around. Hence opening it up to first round as a whole.