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jim1
02-28-2012, 09:43 AM
Bengals running back Cedric Benson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3139/cedric-benson) has made no secret that he’s looking forward to leaving Cincinnati (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/22/cedric-benson-keeps-criticizing-the-bengals-offense/) in free agency, and offensive coordinator Jay Gruden says the Bengals will be just fine without Benson.
Gruden told Bengals.com he’s planning a running back-by-committee offense.

“It’s not a bad way to go. Keep guys fresh. They play longer, they’re involved (http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Complements-abound/e64a38ba-488e-43c7-8687-9947e9a9612b),” Gruden said. “If something happens to one, you know you’ve got a guy that can come in there and be productive. Where you’re not relying heavily on one guy and if something happens to him, you’re like, ‘Oh God, this guy doesn’t have many reps.’ I think it’s important to have guys touch the ball, I believe, as a committee.”


With Benson leaving, the Bengals’ committee is likely to include Bernard Scott (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5420/bernard-scott), Brian Leonard (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4172/brian-leonard) and Cedric Peerman (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5399/cedric-peerman), and the Bengals have said they’d like to draft a running back. But the committee won’t include Benson, who led the team with 273 carries for 1,067 yards and six touchdowns last season.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/28/jay-gruden-plans-a-running-back-by-committee-offense-in-cincinnati/


Good luck with that, Jay.

Maybe the Bengals go for Lamar Miller, definite possibility. But if they want to replace work horse Benson with work horse Trent Richardson- please come a'knockin. #8 for 17 and 21. Hello dream sequence:

1. David Decastro
1. Brandon Weeden
2. Coby Fleener
3. Joe Adams
4. Brandon Mosley

5th rd- maybe Josh Norman or Jake Bequette, who knows. Maybe another OT since it's a deep class- Jeff Allen, Matt McCants, Matt Reynolds, Tony Bergstrom- whatever, just get good players. Maybe Philip Blake slides, you never know. As much as I hate the idea of losing a weapon that we desperately need, ie Joe Adams or Fleener, if we lose Soilia to FA you have to take a good, hard look at Alameda Ta'amu as well.

datruth55
02-28-2012, 10:03 AM
If they're looking to platoon their running backs it wouldn't make sense to get a bell cow like Richardson, it would make more sense to get a scat back that can return kicks and be a receiver out of the backfield like an Isaiah Pead from U of Cincinnati...a hometown kid.

natetherock
02-28-2012, 10:04 AM
I love the trade down scenario picking up an extra 1, maybe more. I think the Weeden pick is a little early, especially considering we may end up with Peyton Manning. I do like Weeden though I think we just have to wait and see what is done in FA.

jim1
02-28-2012, 10:21 AM
If they're looking to platoon their running backs it wouldn't make sense to get a bell cow like Richardson, it would make more sense to get a scat back that can return kicks and be a receiver out of the backfield like an Isaiah Pead from U of Cincinnati...a hometown kid.

My point is that I think tht jay Gruden is full of it, and they need a stud RB to take pressure off of of Andy Dalton, AJ Green, etc. Richardson would be great for them. And that trade would be great for us.

datruth55
02-28-2012, 10:28 AM
My point is that I think tht jay Gruden is full of it, and they need a stud RB to take pressure off of of Andy Dalton, AJ Green, etc. Richardson would be great for them. And that trade would be great for us.
I guess everyone can have a dream scenario, however unlikely it might be.

jim1
02-28-2012, 10:34 AM
I guess everyone can have a dream scenario, however unlikely it might be.

Probably won't happen, but it's entirely possible imo.

datruth55
02-28-2012, 10:40 AM
Probably won't happen, but it's entirely possible imo.
So is someone trading up to #1 and taking Luck...won't happen but it's possible.

jim1
02-28-2012, 10:46 AM
I love the trade down scenario picking up an extra 1, maybe more. I think the Weeden pick is a little early, especially considering we may end up with Peyton Manning. I do like Weeden though I think we just have to wait and see what is done in FA.

i'm not trying to be stubborn about this, but in my opinion there are 2 Qbs that stand out in this class, Luck and Weeden RGIII scares the hell out of me as as per risk factor. Big trade for him? I'm out, no way. Kirk Cousins- not bad, still evaluating, but he doesn't thrill me at all. Tannehill- dude is flat out overrated in my book. A project. Stares down receivers. Struggles on crossing patterns. hell, he'd scare me in the 2nd rd much less the first.


Weeden is the real deal- I'd sprint like cCarl Lewis to the podium with Weeden's name on a card if I were the Dolphins, regardless if they sign manning or not. The next 8 years or so of Manning and Weeden- works for me just fine if Peyton's neck checks out medically.

datruth55
02-28-2012, 11:10 AM
You don't need a guy with measurables off the charts for the WCO. That's the beauty of it, you can have success with good QBs that possess the right attributes. Look at Matt Schaub or Matt Hasselbeck in the WCO, both very successful and niether one is off the charts in any measurable catagory. They don't have rocket arms, they're not very athletic but they are decisive, they are accurate and throw with good anticipation. Those are attributes Kirk Cousins possesses. I think Weeden would excel in this offense as well.

jim1
02-28-2012, 11:21 AM
You don't need a guy with measurables off the charts for the WCO. That's the beauty of it, you can have success with good QBs that possess the right attributes. Look at Matt Schaub or Matt Hasselbeck in the WCO, both very successful and niether one is off the charts in any measurable catagory. They don't have rocket arms, they're not very athletic but they are decisive, they are accurate and throw with good anticipation. Those are attributes Kirk Cousins possesses. I think Weeden would excel in this offense as well.

Cousins is a little better than I initially suspected, I have to see more- but so far dude seems like a decent prospect, that's pretty much it for me. He just doesn't grab my attention like a Weeden or Tyler Wilson. As to Tannehill, I just don't get what all the fuss is about. I would draft Weeden ahead of Tannehill in a heartbeat, damn the age factor.

2413fanphins
02-28-2012, 11:30 AM
I prefef weeden if we dont land flynn or peyton. Id still like to draft tanehill if we get peyton. Give us a youngbuck waiting in the wings.

J Tes
02-28-2012, 11:42 AM
Bengals running back Cedric Benson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3139/cedric-benson) has made no secret that he’s looking forward to leaving Cincinnati (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/22/cedric-benson-keeps-criticizing-the-bengals-offense/) in free agency, and offensive coordinator Jay Gruden says the Bengals will be just fine without Benson.
Gruden told Bengals.com he’s planning a running back-by-committee offense.

“It’s not a bad way to go. Keep guys fresh. They play longer, they’re involved (http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Complements-abound/e64a38ba-488e-43c7-8687-9947e9a9612b),” Gruden said. “If something happens to one, you know you’ve got a guy that can come in there and be productive. Where you’re not relying heavily on one guy and if something happens to him, you’re like, ‘Oh God, this guy doesn’t have many reps.’ I think it’s important to have guys touch the ball, I believe, as a committee.”


With Benson leaving, the Bengals’ committee is likely to include Bernard Scott (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5420/bernard-scott), Brian Leonard (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4172/brian-leonard) and Cedric Peerman (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5399/cedric-peerman), and the Bengals have said they’d like to draft a running back. But the committee won’t include Benson, who led the team with 273 carries for 1,067 yards and six touchdowns last season.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/28/jay-gruden-plans-a-running-back-by-committee-offense-in-cincinnati/


Good luck with that, Jay.

Maybe the Bengals go for Lamar Miller, definite possibility. But if they want to replace work horse Benson with work horse Trent Richardson- please come a'knockin. #8 for 17 and 21. Hello dream sequence:

1. David Decastro
1. Brandon Weeden
2. Coby Fleener
3. Joe Adams
4. Brandon Mosley

5th rd- maybe Josh Norman or Jake Bequette, who knows. Maybe another OT since it's a deep class- Jeff Allen, Matt McCants, Matt Reynolds, Tony Bergstrom- whatever, just get good players. Maybe Philip Blake slides, you never know. As much as I hate the idea of losing a weapon that we desperately need, ie Joe Adams or Fleener, if we lose Soilia to FA you have to take a good, hard look at Alameda Ta'amu as well.

No way is Cincy trading both of their #1's for the 8th pick. Thats way too much. You could land their 1st and 2nd but no way are you getting both 1st's

jim1
02-28-2012, 11:44 AM
I prefef weeden if we dont land flynn or peyton. Id still like to draft tanehill if we get peyton. Give us a youngbuck waiting in the wings.

It makes sense in some ways, but the problem is that Tannehill just isn't all that good. I'd rather get Manning and draft Tyler Wilson next year. It's just my opinion, that goes without saying. I just can't get on board with Tannehill from what I've seen. Reminds me of Ronnie Brown in some ways- really good measurements, capable player. But at the core of the player, at the core of the person, was he really, intuitively a great back? I didn't think so, and I always preferred Ricky Williams. And that reminds me of Tannehill, obvioulsy in this case at QB and what it takes to succeed at that position.

Whatever that exclusive "it" factor is for QBs, I have serious doubts as to Tannehill having "it".

2413fanphins
02-28-2012, 11:56 AM
You could be right. Ideally we find a way to get barkley or keep an eye on aaron murray. I dont see landry jones making big progress although i do like his arm. I just dont see much point in getting weeden if wd already have peyton. And after tanehill, i dont see much.for qbs who can be the guy. Tanehill needs work but if we are looking at guys like jefferson or cousins, id pass.

Thumper1016
02-28-2012, 12:18 PM
I would take there picks but I dont want Benson IMO.

J Tes
02-28-2012, 12:21 PM
I would take there picks but I dont want Benson IMO.

Thats awfully nice of you to take their picks but there's only one problem- they're not going to offer both of their 1sts for the 8th pick in the draft

jim1
02-28-2012, 12:29 PM
Thats awfully nice of you to take their picks but there's only one problem- they're not going to offer both of their 1sts for the 8th pick in the draft

In some ways i get that, but then there's that damn trade chart- I never liked that thing, but I wonder what it says.

The problem is, as is always the case with stats and trade charts, etc.- they're complety objective. So the fortune that Atlanta coughed up for the 6th pick to get Juio Jones indicates that #s 17 & 21 for #8 is entirely possible. My point is, although I definitely see your point, far from outlandish.

ticophin
02-28-2012, 01:21 PM
we´d get their 21st pick in the 2nd round, not their 2nd 1st....
Still, moving back to 17, and having 2 2nd rounders (and a 4th-5th probably), looks pretty good to me...

J Tes
02-28-2012, 02:07 PM
In some ways i get that, but then there's that damn trade chart- I never liked that thing, but I wonder what it says.

The problem is, as is always the case with stats and trade charts, etc.- they're complety objective. So the fortune that Atlanta coughed up for the 6th pick to get Juio Jones indicates that #s 17 & 21 for #8 is entirely possible. My point is, although I definitely see your point, mine is far from outlandish.

I see where your coming from and I think the trade chart is outdated but it still is the guide that most go by. I'm not saying you couldn't possibly get both picks from Cincy but they would have to be in desperate need for a certain player. Maybe Miami's 8th pick and their 3rd could maybe get you both but not 8th for both. That would be great but highly unlikely

Roman529
02-28-2012, 02:22 PM
I would definitely trade down our #8 pick for their 17th and 21st, but I don't know if they would do this. I think we could maybe trade down with the Eagles....our 8th pick for their 15th and 45th.

J Tes
02-28-2012, 05:15 PM
I would definitely trade down our #8 pick for their 17th and 21st, but I don't know if they would do this. I think we could maybe trade down with the Eagles....our 8th pick for their 15th and 45th.

Yeah. For the Dolphins it's a no brainer. You do that trade and not look back. For Cincy? They'd have to really be in love with someone and even then i'm still not sure they would offer that much

3rd and long
02-29-2012, 05:08 PM
Why would the Dolphins want Benson. Too much wear and too much of a headache. I'd rather roll with D. Thomas.

NorFlaFin
02-29-2012, 08:36 PM
The new salary structure negates the draft value chart. At worst the Phins could dangle Sean Smith or similar player to make up the difference.