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ckparrothead
02-29-2012, 11:26 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1084993-2012-nfl-combine-10-players-whose-draft-stock-skyrocketed

Did up an article on 10 guys that have increased their stock most during Combine week.

As a bonus, here are some guys that I DID NOT mention in the article that impressed me:

Drake Dunsmore - First off he's a productive player. I believe he had 500 yards receiving and 6 TDs this year at Northwestern. He caught 5 TDs in 2010 and 3 TDs in 2009, so you know this man finds the end zone. The caveat is at only 6'2" and 241 lbs, a lot of people are considering him more of a fullback, and more the Charles Clay type that catches the ball than the John Kuhn type that will log short yardage carries. In other words, he's probably not for the Fins, but that doesn't mean he's not a good prospect. He was the only guy in TE field drills that truly showed the ability to plant and drive on his routes. There's obviously a lot in his game that needs to be cleaned up but as far as going out there and running routes, getting open and making clean catches, he might actually have had the most ability out of the group. His Combine numbers were pretty top notch, but it was the drills that caught my attention.

Marvin Jones - He actually belongs in the article because his stock is going up something fierce. He had a strong Combine where he ran a 4.46 and people are starting to get it that he's got a great combination of route running skills and run after catch ability, at 6'2" and 199 lbs. He was one of my guys I was watching heading into this process, pretty underrated player.

Tony Bergstrom & Tom Compton - They have what Bill Walsh would refer to as good "bone girth". They have the makings of players that display excellent power, and yet they're both very athletic and have the potential to be good in pass protection as well. A good base is important, but great bone structure and ability to bend your knees and use your upper body efficiently to connect your power base to your opponent, that's probably more important. That's what these guys have, and it showed in field drills. Then you look at their numbers and sure enough, they showed well in athletic drills.

Adam Gettis - Not my favorite player during drills, but the simple fact of the matter is the athleticism and explosion he showed at this size should catch teams' attention. He needs a lot of work on his lateral movement, but it's clear that he generates a lot of power from that explosive lower body. You're looking at him as a guard anyway, so you don't need him to have Joe Thomas' feet in pass pro.

Phil Blake & Quentin Saulsberry - Both these guys present much of the same thing, to me. They're not highly athletic and don't show great range, but they are technically sound, lunch pail pros. They honestly looked like if you invited a couple of blue collar journeymen starters (not stars) to the Combine to participate in drills with all these kids. They both just put their heads down, went to work, and showed that experience pays dividends in your technique. They could both start games.

David Wilson - He really killed his measurements, and also showed that he's got some pass catching versatility in his drills.

Cyrus Gray - I'm probably among a very few that thought him capable of the 4.47 second 40 yard dash time that he posted. I pay close attention to who you're running away from and what they're reported speed is from camps and spring practices, so I knew Cyrus had this in him. Tom Wort told us a year ago that Cyrus was the most difficult talented he's played against.

Chris Rainey - I hated how he pulled up with a hamstring after his 40 yard dash, as if he looked up at the board and saw his disappointing time, and decided he's got to make an excuse for it. But the fact of the matter is, aside from the disappointing 4.45 official time, this guy showed he could run with some of the best shuttle and cone drill times I've ever seen. He didn't suddenly lose his world class speed, it just didn't translate on Sunday, for whatever reason. Fact of the matter is Rainey's gone from being a 7th round slot receiver prospect to more like a 3rd or 4th round factor back that you will use in the slot and to take carries. He performed really, really well in catching drills, running routes. And eventually if you ever need to give him the pink slip, you can write, "Time to die, b-tch" on it.

Bruce Irvin - All the way around there were a lot of guys that were impressive from the DLs and LBs units. But for Bruce Irvin to show up at 245 lbs and run the way he did, and look the way he did in drills, that was a big win for him. He's as fast as Zach Brown, moves extremely well in linebacker drills, and he's twice the pass rusher/blitzer Brown is. Brown isn't really a very good cover guy anyway so at least Irvin's got the excuse that he'll just be learning it for the first time. I thought that, while Mike Mayock honestly couldn't shut up about Melvin Ingram even to the point of lying and claiming Ingram is 30 lbs heavier than Irvin (he was 19 lbs heavier at weigh-in), Irvin was having just as good field drills and had a better measurement session.

Dwight Bentley - His stock has been on the rise for months. He finished off his season with a great game against San Diego State. He went to the Senior Bowl and stood out as perhaps the best corner there. Then he goes to the Combine and busts out a legit 4.43. He's a ball of butcher knives that will stick you and kill you in support, and he's got the ability to stay in anyone's hip pocket.

Josh Robinson - Running the official fastest time at the Combine at 4.33 seconds will get you on anyone's radar. Posting an 11'1" broad jump with sub-4 second shuttle drill and a 6.57 second cone drill, that's just showing off.

datruth55
02-29-2012, 12:14 PM
Compton definitely caught my eye. Would love to get that kid in the middle rounds.

2413fanphins
02-29-2012, 12:23 PM
As an iowa native and hawk fan, i never dreamt gettis would have that kind of combine. He really put up some good numbers. I think hed make a serviceable guard, or at the very least provide solid depth.

JC
02-29-2012, 08:31 PM
Robinson is a baller. He's going to be a great pickup for any team between rounds 3-5. I could definitely see him being a nickel corner and definite special teams contributor right off the bat.

Mudder1310
02-29-2012, 09:52 PM
Harrison Smith. Probably the #2 safety right now.

SF Dolphin Fan
03-01-2012, 12:20 AM
Hey CK. Just wondering if Fletcher Cox can run that fast at 250 would it be smart for a team to slim him down a bit and use him as more of a pass rushing DE? Do you think he could be a 10 sack guy with a little less weight on his frame? As it is, right now, he reminds me a lot of Jared Odrick who is emerging nicely for the Dolphins. Not saying Cox is worth the number 8 pick, but if the Dolphins trade down maybe he would be a target.

PSU Cane
03-01-2012, 01:17 AM
Hey CK. Just wondering if Fletcher Cox can run that fast at 250 would it be smart for a team to slim him down a bit and use him as more of a pass rushing DE? Do you think he could be a 10 sack guy with a little less weight on his frame? As it is, right now, he reminds me a lot of Jared Odrick who is emerging nicely for the Dolphins. Not saying Cox is worth the number 8 pick, but if the Dolphins trade down maybe he would be a target.

He's actually 295 pounds.....but i still think he could play DE (lined up against the RT) on rush downs and slide inside on pass downs to utilize his speed/athleticism.

CANDolphan
03-01-2012, 03:18 AM
Rainey was always being talked about in the 4th-5th round. And Im confused by the beginning part of your post... are you genuinely suggesting he "saw his time"?

I like your writeup on the DEs. Mayock really was getting obnoxious about Ingram, and Ive been an Ingram supporter for a year!

CANDolphan
03-01-2012, 03:31 AM
By the way, Torrey Smith was not a first rounder

LANGER72
03-01-2012, 09:59 AM
"Bone Girth" ...sounds like a porn star name. lol

$$BWCJR78$$
03-01-2012, 08:17 PM
hey CK,

whats your take on janoris jenkins from north alabama, how high will he go with all the off field problem.

2413fanphins
03-01-2012, 08:38 PM
CK, did you see anything out of jewell hampton that would lead you to believe he may get drafted? I lost track of him aftef his abrupt dismissal from Iowa.

Hayden Fox
03-01-2012, 09:35 PM
Kirk Cousins I would throw in there that you hear people talking 2nd and 3rd Rd for him...Months ago, Cousins was penciled in as a 5-7th guy.

Where does Irvin go in the draft? I liked him too...

Irvin's productions does not come close to Melvin Ingram though.

PhinsTD
03-01-2012, 10:19 PM
I'd be ok with drafting an Ingram/Coples/Perry in the 1st and then following up with a Bruce Irvin in the 3rd if he's there. Utilize Irvin similarly to how Aldon Smith was utilized as a pass rusher only early on in San Fran. Getting some pass rushers on the roster is a must for me.

This assumes signing Manning or Flynn of course.

KDog13
03-01-2012, 10:24 PM
Nice List, Caught one of my boys from Northwestern I see too :D

Austin Tatious
03-01-2012, 11:58 PM
Good stuff. Watch Michael Floyd as a very strong possibility for the Chicago Bears. All they talk about up here is getting Cutler some receivers.

beanh8er
03-02-2012, 08:25 AM
CK, did you see anything out of jewell hampton that would lead you to believe he may get drafted? I lost track of him aftef his abrupt dismissal from Iowa.

I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Too many knee issues.

t-dubya
03-02-2012, 05:22 PM
As an iowa native and hawk fan, i never dreamt gettis would have that kind of combine. He really put up some good numbers. I think hed make a serviceable guard, or at the very least provide solid depth.
I just read on hawk central that he came to IA at 220 lbs... Doyle is a miracle worker!

datruth55
03-03-2012, 01:36 AM
Kirk Cousins I would throw in there that you hear people talking 2nd and 3rd Rd for him...Months ago, Cousins was penciled in as a 5-7th guy.

Where does Irvin go in the draft? I liked him too...

Irvin's productions does not come close to Melvin Ingram though.
Bruce Irvin is not an every down player but he did have 14 sacks as a junior and 8 sacks last year. He was a situational pass rusher as a junior and started this past season, he was getting beat up playing DE at 245 lbs in a 3-3-5 defense (piece of crap defensive alignment IMO). Considering his lack of size and where he was playing that's pretty impressive but in an interview I read with him he said he would prefer to play 8 or 9 plays a game (yeah he said that) and just rush the QB.

Not sure where you get that Irvin's production doesn't come close to Ingram's though.



2010

Games

Solo Tackles

Total Tackles

TFL

Sacks

PBU

QB Hurries

FF

FR



Melvin Ingram

14

17

28

11.0

9.0

1

1

1

0



Bruce Irvin

13

18

21

14.0

14.0

1

2

2

0






2011

Games

Solo Tackles

Total Tackles
TFL
Sacks

PBU

QB Hurries

FF

FR

INT


Melvin Ingram

13

31

48

15.0

10.0

2

6

0

1

2


Bruce Irvin

13

26

40

14.5

8.0

0

2

3

0

0



Ingram did play a little on offense as well last season. Both these guys are freak athletes and they're production isn't that far apart but the big difference is Ingram wants to be an every down player.

Hayden Fox
03-03-2012, 07:11 AM
Bruce Irvin is not an every down player but he did have 14 sacks as a junior and 8 sacks last year. He was a situational pass rusher as a junior and started this past season, he was getting beat up playing DE at 245 lbs in a 3-3-5 defense (piece of crap defensive alignment IMO). Considering his lack of size and where he was playing that's pretty impressive but in an interview I read with him he said he would prefer to play 8 or 9 plays a game (yeah he said that) and just rush the QB.

Not sure where you get that Irvin's production doesn't come close to Ingram's though.



2010
Games
Solo Tackles
Total Tackles
TFL
Sacks
PBU
QB Hurries
FF
FR


Melvin Ingram
14
17
28
11.0
9.0
1
1
1
0


Bruce Irvin
13
18
21
14.0
14.0
1
2
2
0






2011
Games
Solo Tackles
Total Tackles
TFL
Sacks
PBU
QB Hurries
FF
FR
INT


Melvin Ingram
13
31
48
15.0
10.0
2
6
0
1
2


Bruce Irvin
13
26
40
14.5
8.0
0
2
3
0
0




Ingram did play a little on offense as well last season. Both these guys are freak athletes and they're production isn't that far apart but the big difference is Ingram wants to be an every down player.

Good use of stats...I will alter my take, Ingram showed up WAY MORE on tape than Irvin...I love his versatility and body type.

However, maybe Irvin is a sleeper type that could help if we did not go pass rusher in round one.