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MiamiNative0722
03-28-2012, 07:46 AM
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With talk around the NFL that Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill could be drafted as high as fourth overall to the Browns, more analysts are talking up Tannehill’s tape. And Greg Cosell of NFL Films has offered up an assessment that gives plenty of reason to like Tannehill’s chances of going very high in next month’s NFL draft.

“One benefit of Tannehill’s three-quarters delivery is it allows him to throw very well on the move, both to his right and impressively, to his left,” Cosell writes. “In fact, he’s a better, more accurate passer on the run than either Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin. Tannehill was very efficient off the boot-action pass game. That will translate very well to the NFL.”

Cosell has some concerns about Tannehill, including missing some throws, a tendency to lock his front leg as he delivers the ball, and poor reads of the defense — especially not seeing the safeties. And Cosell said he didn’t see the improvement over the course of Tannehill’s 19-start college career that he would have liked.

But Cosell says Tannehill compares favorably to last year’s 12th overall pick, Christian Ponder, and that some quarterback-needy team is going to take him high.

“Tannehill is a better prospect than Christian Ponder was a year ago,” Cosell writes. “Tannehill possesses the skill set to be a quality NFL starter. At this point, he would be best in a quick-rhythm, short-to-intermediate passing game that featured play-action and boot-action passes. One thing we know for certain: He likely will be drafted higher than his body of work suggests he should be.”

Maybe as high as fourth to the Browns.

JRYCRL
03-28-2012, 07:55 AM
I'd have been fine with Tannehill if we hadn't wasted millions on Gerard, and the slew of "back-up" OL's. We should have signed Winston at RT instead and taken a WR in the 2nd or 3rd but now... we've got a nice set of "back-up" OL's in case God-knows-who-at-RT or RG gets hurt.

hooshoops
03-28-2012, 08:25 AM
he does throw very well on the move...i don't think its any better than luck or rg3 though...but its another impressive quality of tannehills...

houtz
03-28-2012, 08:28 AM
I think it's going to be hard for Ireland to pass on Tannehill.

RockyMtnPhinfan
03-28-2012, 08:58 AM
I'd like to be a fly on the wall when Sherman is discussing his thoughts on Tannehill with Ireland and Philbin.

soldier1385
03-28-2012, 09:02 AM
If we get him, he better throw well on the run because the way our line was he will be running away to save his life.

flynryan15
03-28-2012, 09:07 AM
If we get him, he better throw well on the run because the way our line was he will be running away to save his life.

You style my thunder!

LANGER72
03-28-2012, 09:30 AM
Throwing on the run is generally used on a few designed plays or when the pocket breaks down. The problem with those guys is that they never stay in the pocket, they take off trying to make something happen....and it usually doesn't. It also results in holding calls.
I would rather we take a pocket passer that can take a step up or to the side to elude the rush. If the lineman know exactly where the QB is, they can control their man to protect him.

I like Tannehill, but not at #8. We can get a better QB in the first round next year. (most of the QB needy teams will have filled their needs this year, the amount of competition for those elite guys next year should be minimal). We should look for a developmental guy in rounds 2-5 and hope we can strike gold, while taking play makers. We need WR's desperately.

Krush
03-28-2012, 09:46 AM
The team doesn't want a Alpha receiver, you probably was one of those fans protesting LOL you want the team to wait until next year to get a QB but you want to win right now.

ckparrothead
03-28-2012, 09:56 AM
I agree with Cosell. Its one of the things that stood out about Tannehill over and over again. Put him on the move, he still completes passes, and a lot of times deep ones.

J Tes
03-28-2012, 12:04 PM
I'd have been fine with Tannehill if we hadn't wasted millions on Gerard, and the slew of "back-up" OL's. We should have signed Winston at RT instead and taken a WR in the 2nd or 3rd but now... we've got a nice set of "back-up" OL's in case God-knows-who-at-RT or RG gets hurt.

I guess you'll be fine with Tannehill since Garrard signed for 1 year and it's non guaranteed

hooshoops
03-28-2012, 12:05 PM
I agree with Cosell. Its one of the things that stood out about Tannehill over and over again. Put him on the move, he still completes passes, and a lot of times deep ones.

i've seen a lot of evidence of him hitting stuff on the move outside the numbers like sideline routes but have you found also that his vertical accuracy as in over the top is almost non existent??? i know he can throw 20 yard crossing route darts etc but a straight go route outside the #'s i have yet to see any real evidence of him throwing that ball over the proper shoulder and with the proper placement...

if this o is gonna be more about underneath and intermediate routes i think that bodes pretty well for him but we're not gonna get as much bang for our buck out of a say edmund gates unless we go for quick strikes over the top every once in a while and tannehills accuracy on that ball for my study is not good...

Joe W. Namath
03-28-2012, 12:43 PM
But Cosell says Tannehill compares favorably to last year’s 12th overall pick, Christian Ponder,

So the fins are going to draft the next Christin Ponder with the 8th pick in the draft? Brilliant.

Vaark
03-28-2012, 12:55 PM
So the fins are going to draft the next Christin Ponder with the 8th pick in the draft? Brilliant.

Considering what you ended up reaching for @5th, let alone @15th, I sure wouldn't cast any stones :idk:

swityak11
03-28-2012, 01:14 PM
Let's get some Ponder 2.0 up in here!

I'm excited.

CANDolphan
03-28-2012, 01:18 PM
So the fins are going to draft the next Christin Ponder with the 8th pick in the draft? Brilliant.

You don't know what "compares favorably" means

72PhinFan
03-28-2012, 01:22 PM
It doesn't matter. Dolphins wont get hm. The Rams willtrade up to 4 to ensure getting Blackmon and Cleveland will take him at 6. Buccaneers will not trade their 5 to the Dolphins for any reasonable value because they will want Richardson who Cleveland will pick at 6 if the Dolphins pick Tannehill at 5.

Roman529
03-28-2012, 01:25 PM
From watching Tannehill on tape, he looks really mobile, but he doesn't get happy feet and then throw a horrible pass. He will stay in the pocket and wait for receivers to come open, but if there is nothing there he can run for a first down. His throws on the run are very accurate and I would agree with Cosell in that he throws better on the run than Luck/ RG3.

I think Luck still has a stronger arm than Tannehill, and RG3 is faster, but I would have no problem taking Tannehill at #8. Why would Cleveland pass on Blackmon when that is exactly what Colt McCoy needs...a big fast #1 receiver. I think some other team might fall in love with Tannehill and maybe move up before #8 to get him.....if this happens I think we would probably look at getting Weeden, but not with the 8th pick.

Austin Tatious
03-28-2012, 02:39 PM
So the fins are going to draft the next Christin Ponder with the 8th pick in the draft? Brilliant.

I think you don't understand, brah.

moonman
03-28-2012, 02:58 PM
Weeden throws the best on the run. Some team is going to luck into Weeden and I hope it's us.

SkapePhin
03-28-2012, 03:03 PM
I don't think the Dolphins will even get a shot at Tannehill. It seems like the Browns might trade down with the Rams to get another pick and pick up Tannehill before Miami.

Fish-Head
03-28-2012, 03:20 PM
but wait... I thought Tannehill was a 'reach' at 8. :bobdole: :lol:

cdz12250
03-28-2012, 03:33 PM
Cosell has some concerns about Tannehill, including missing some throws, a tendency to lock his front leg as he delivers the ball, and poor reads of the defense — especially not seeing the safeties. And Cosell said he didn’t see the improvement over the course of Tannehill’s 19-start college career that he would have liked.

No thanks.

Elliott 1
03-28-2012, 03:35 PM
The Rams aren't trading up. They aren't even going to draft WR. They are loaded at WR. Greg Salas and Austin Pettis are going to contribute this year. If Danario Alexander can stay on the field he is as talented as any WR in the league. Amendola, Mark Clayton,Steve Smith,Brandon Gibson, and others will all be competing for snaps.

The Rams are far more likely to trade down again than to trade up. If Richardson is there they have to draft him. Steven Jackson's chronic back problems make him completely unreliable.

Phins89
03-28-2012, 03:39 PM
A QB always on the run means our O-Line SUCKS!

Fin_Frenzy_84
03-28-2012, 03:41 PM
Tannehill reminds me of locker

hooshoops
03-28-2012, 04:00 PM
the rams aren't gonna draft a wr this year??? well if thats the case sam bradford needs to goin kick the new gm...

72PhinFan
03-28-2012, 04:14 PM
The Rams aren't trading up. They aren't even going to draft WR. They are loaded at WR. Greg Salas and Austin Pettis are going to contribute this year. If Danario Alexander can stay on the field he is as talented as any WR in the league. Amendola, Mark Clayton,Steve Smith,Brandon Gibson, and others will all be competing for snaps.

The Rams are far more likely to trade down again than to trade up. If Richardson is there they have to draft him. Steven Jackson's chronic back problems make him completely unreliable.

LOL! That WR corps is worse than the Dolphins. If you think the Browns are satisfied with McCoy you must think the Dolphins are satisfied with their two QBs. If Cleveland has Blackmon and Tannehill of equal value to the team or Blackmon of marginally better value, they make the trade and gain a 2nd day draft pick. WR is deep and a good one can be found later. Which would you rather have, Blackmon or Tannehill and Hill, maybe Sanu

Geforce
03-28-2012, 05:14 PM
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With talk around the NFL that Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill could be drafted as high as fourth overall to the Browns, more analysts are talking up Tannehill’s tape. And Greg Cosell of NFL Films has offered up an assessment that gives plenty of reason to like Tannehill’s chances of going very high in next month’s NFL draft.

“One benefit of Tannehill’s three-quarters delivery is it allows him to throw very well on the move, both to his right and impressively, to his left,” Cosell writes. “In fact, he’s a better, more accurate passer on the run than either Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin. Tannehill was very efficient off the boot-action pass game. That will translate very well to the NFL.”

Cosell has some concerns about Tannehill, including missing some throws, a tendency to lock his front leg as he delivers the ball, and poor reads of the defense — especially not seeing the safeties. And Cosell said he didn’t see the improvement over the course of Tannehill’s 19-start college career that he would have liked.

But Cosell says Tannehill compares favorably to last year’s 12th overall pick, Christian Ponder, and that some quarterback-needy team is going to take him high.

“Tannehill is a better prospect than Christian Ponder was a year ago,” Cosell writes. “Tannehill possesses the skill set to be a quality NFL starter. At this point, he would be best in a quick-rhythm, short-to-intermediate passing game that featured play-action and boot-action passes. One thing we know for certain: He likely will be drafted higher than his body of work suggests he should be.”

Maybe as high as fourth to the Browns.
This was taken from Cosell Talks: The Tannehill Project
http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/03/28/cosell-talks-the-tannehill-project/?module=HP11_cp


Back to Tannehill — against Oklahoma State, a number of things were evident. Let’s start with arm strength, often dismissed as an overrated attribute — until, of course, it’s needed in a critical situation. Tannehill had a good arm, but not a gun. What helped him spin the ball was good weight transfer. He did not lift his back foot off the ground too soon, and effectively drove through his throws.

Three other points emerged from this game. First, he was willing to pull the trigger on difficult throws, which is a necessity in the NFL. Second, he threw the ball well and with confidence when working outside the numbers. Lastly, and surprisingly given his relative inexperience, he exhibited comfortable pocket mobility. In response to pressure, he moved within an area that approximates the size of a boxing ring while maintaining both his passer profile and his downfield focus. Pocket movement is a far more important attribute in the NFL than leaving the pocket and running.

This was one game, so these were snapshots more than final grades. As I continued with Arkansas, Iowa State and Missouri, I developed a more fully developed picture of Tannehill. His delivery was a bit low, more three-quarters than over-the-top. It was compact with good arm speed, which also accounted for the aforementioned velocity. One concern: I thought he had a tendency to lock his front leg as he delivered the ball at times. There were instances in which that hindered his usually precise ball location. Some throws were a little high, especially ones between the numbers. Those problems can be coached and fixed, but it’s a process and, at this point, a concern.